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    What's living in Texas like?

    I'm 26, single, working a private security job at a medical facility in SW Ohio (Cincinnati). I'm getting burnt out looking for law enforcement positions in this area, and it seems like the departments are always laying people off even after landing a job. It's not uncommon to have 3k applicants applying for a department that just announced 10 open positions.

    Anyhow, I was in uniform standing in line at a grocery store a week ago and struck up a conversation with a guy behind me. He said he had just moved home, but was a Dallas Police officer for a few years and loved it. Said they were always hiring, good job and all but had some familiy issues to attend to and didn't care for the heat.

    So I'm looking into it, and it seems like every city I'm looking at is currently accepting applications (Dallas, Houston, Austin, etc). What's the deal, are y'all handing out free BBQ or something? Cincinnati dropped 2% population between the 2010 and 2012 census, but cities in Texas are jumping 3-8%.

    I guess I have an idea of what it's like to live in Texas... Lots of red meat, scorching sunshine (like "Good, The Bad, The Ugly" kind of weather), rattlesnakes everywhere, the movie "Twister", and so-on and so-forth. I'm just curious how it would compare on the surface to living in Cincinnati, or Indianapolis, Columbus, Lexington, Louisville, or any other modest 100-300k population city in the midwest.

    I've heard Austin is "hip" and the pay looks ridiculously tempting for the PD, but also that the housing is a bit higher. A few people I've spoke to at work say they love the Dallas/ Fort Worth area, but won't really explain it past "It's awesome, it's like full of rich people" (except one gay guy who said no one was nice to him there).

    -Mountain bike trails are a factor, just for the sole purpose of what kind of terrain I'm looking at
    -Cost of living/Tax rates
    -Single looking to mingle... Cincy has lots of festivals, lots to do, but what's the social scene like
    -Housing
    -Climate... I've heard it's hot, but all the 90-100 degree days in SW Ohio with 90% humidity already feel like death. Much worse with a bullet resistant vest and duty belt. And black uniform. Surrounded by pavement.

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    I am a Midwesterner, from Chicago. Moved down here 20 years ago and would never go back. The biking is good, you can ride year 'round and there are no state income taxes. Now, with that being said, there is no state income tax so expect that infrastructure will reflect that.

    I lived in Houston and would rather return to the snow of Chicago than go back to Houston. I live in Austin now and plan to die here. Just not soon.

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    I am moving to Austin from Columbus. In terms of weather, much warmer and very humid compared to Ohio. However, no freaking snow and cold weather. People are great in Austin, tons of stuff to do, traffic sucks, housing prices going up, and oh by the way.....great freaking trails. compared to what you have in Cincinnati, you will not be disappointed in Austin trails I have three trail systems in last week, and equally impressed with all three. Many many more trails to hit.
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    The heat compares to Camp Spicher or Kirkuk ABF, Iraq. In other words one can survive it--vest and all.

    Rattlesnakes are there but really I've only happened upon several in hundreds of mtb rides.

    The racing scene for MTB is very healthy here. The road cycling is good too. Almost a century ride somewhere every weekend.

    Housing mid 100s for 2200-2400 sq ft--at least in Killeen/Ft Hood area...you may be looking at slightly more in Austin/DFW. This is a BASIC thrown together by cheap labor homes but nice. Just know that the fences they use will blow down the 1st time the wind gusts over 20.

    Not into the social scene but there is Ausin a huge Universiy meaning girls

    Just remember Waco is wacky and Austin is weird and nobody really cares for Texas A&M that much (although Lake Bryan MTB trails are ok) and you'll do fine here.

    IMHO cost of living in Texas= bang for the buck. And salary here=more than lots of other metro areas.

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    I grew up in Salem Ohio, lived north of Chicago for a couple years after college, and now live outside of Fort Worth. I am never goin back, the heat ain't too bad, it is humid as hell the end of May into early June, then it quits rainin and turns too a dry heat. There are more XC mountain bike trails in the DFW metromess than I have seen in any one area. People around here are pretty friendly and outgoing mostly, much better than Illinois. I have only seen a couple of rattlers in 13 years, lots of Copperheads though, and a few Cottonmouths. We get a lot of Rat snakes around the house, and I don't mind them as long as they stay outside.

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    I moved from Ohio to Texas in 1970. For the first 4 years I lived in Mesquite and then Terrell. From there I moved to Houston in search of warmer weather; mission accomplished. I only go back to Ohio to visit family. The biking scene is very active with MTB and road activities almost every weekend even in the "winter". While Houston has 2 seasons (summer and spring) north of here gets a strong dose of winter. I remember the ice storms when I lived in Mesquite. In Houston it gets to freezing two or three times a winter.

    I did notice the Harris County Sheriff Department is hiring. They are the largest one in Texas, third largest in the country.

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    Yeah welcome to Texas just don't bring your liberal politics that f*cked up the state your escaping from.

    I've lived my entire life in Houston Texas and you could not PAY ME to move or live in Austin yes it sucks that bad.

    San Antonio is great and so is the DFW area if you have to live in a metropolitan area and no matter what the haters say you can't beat Houston if you want to make a good living and have a low cost of living PERIOD.

    As far as mtb/cycling goes you can look at a regional trail map at MountainbikeTx.com DWF, San Antonio have great places to ride off road Houston not so much unfortunately unless you want to drive an hour or so outta town.

    If you don't have to be tied down to a large city but don't want to be in the sticks the Tyler/Longview area is nice and so is the Woodlands and College Staton. If you must live in central Texas and NOT in Austin...New Braunfels, Georgetown are good choices.

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    What's living in Texas like?

    There are quite a few liberals here in Austin. And some freaks. Stay on the outside of town and should be safe. Did I say the traffic sucks
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    I live in Georgetown but work in Austin and have to second the traffic sucking comment. There's too many people moving here right now. The transportation infrastructure won't be able to support the amount of people soon.

    Houston sucks for the most part, especially being a single guy unless you're looking for the fattest chicks the state has to offer.

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    Born and raised just outside Dallas (Grand Prairie to be exact), and I read it here and I echo the sentiment.... you could not PAY ME to leave this state. I have visited many places and I am always happy to come back home. As for mountain biking, the Dallas/Ft Worth area has a lot of trails that are well maintained by folks in DORBA, FWMBA and various trail runners. Our trails are definitely XC with a few pieces of Texas style downhill (not long but some die hard fans keep it alive).

    I, personally, help maintain Cedar Hill State Park and claim the DORBA trail there as my "home." I grew up riding from my mom's house to the trail head on the weekends (almost 13 miles by road exactly), ride the trail all day and head home just in time to beat sundown.

    As much as us Texans are proud of our state and claim it is the best (it is, don't kid yourself!), we only top that argument when it comes to our parts of Texas. The areas of Texas are very different. From the "northern" plains of the Dallas/Ft Worth area to the hill country around Austin/San Antonio to those enjoying the humidity of the Coastal Plains in Houston, we are all very proud of where we call home. We can all list the reasons why city X in Texas is better than city Z, but it really comes down to what we know and love.

    FWIW, in my landscape business, I have had a LONG time customer that moved here long ago from Ohio and hates even going back there to visit family.

    No state income tax, not bad property tax (on houses only, not cars), a state government that isn't terrible (not without their faults) and a higher concentration of "nice" people.... Texas has open arms to welcome you, just don't ***** about us once you are here. ;-)
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    Oh yeah... if you are in North Central Texas (Dallas/Ft Worth), the city shuts down about once a year when we get a winter storm.... we do NOT get snow here.... we get thick layers of ice that nobody (not even northerners who think they can) should drive on, so we collectively stay home and chill out.
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    Houston sucks. I grew up there and left when I was 18. I moved back two years ago for a job. That was enough. I got out and moved back west.

    Austin and Dallas are far nicer than Houston. There are some really cool people in Houston, especially inside the loop, but there are also many closed-minded individuals who have never left Houston and are oblivious to their own ignorance.

    Decisions made in Houston are motivated by money. Houston cares little for parks and will gladly plow and grade natural habitat to put in a parking lot. I say this somewhat tongue in cheek, but if you love to drink and like to get fat, Houston is awesome.

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    Living in Austin is very nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight511 View Post
    As much as us Texans are proud of our state and claim it is the best (it is, don't kid yourself!), we only top that argument when it comes to our parts of Texas. The areas of Texas are very different. From the "northern" plains of the Dallas/Ft Worth area to the hill country around Austin/San Antonio to those enjoying the humidity of the Coastal Plains in Houston, we are all very proud of where we call home. We can all list the reasons why city X in Texas is better than city Z, but it really comes down to what we know and love.

    No state income tax, not bad property tax (on houses only, not cars), a state government that isn't terrible (not without their faults) and a higher concentration of "nice" people.... Texas has open arms to welcome you, just don't ***** about us once you are here. ;-)
    Ha! You nailed it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrwhlr View Post
    Living in Austin is very nice.
    There is a real good reason why this is a hot seller in Houston...


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    Cause you have a lot of fat people?

    Houston is Hate Town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMS View Post

    Houston is Hate Town.
    Can you elaborate on your final point, please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL 9000 View Post
    There is a real good reason why this is a hot seller in Houston...

    That picture was probably taken an your local neighborhood Applebee's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL 9000 View Post
    Can you elaborate on your final point, please?
    Closed-mindedness breeds hate.

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    You'll hate it. Stay where you are. There is nothing to see here. The girls are fat, the men will punch your face.
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    Re: What's living in Texas like?

    Quote Originally Posted by baconismidog View Post
    You'll hate it. Stay where you are. There is nothing to see here. The girls are fat, the men will punch your face.
    This.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL 9000 View Post
    Can you elaborate on your final point, please?
    All my friends from Houston call it "Hate Town", cause they all hate everywhere else in Texas. Mind you, these are a bunch of middle aged, Punk rock, dirty skateboarders...but good guys still.

    Houston's cool...it's a never ending strip center of humidity overload.
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    I have lived in Houston and Austin. I prefer Austin by a longshot. People in Houston seemed nice on the surface, but when it came to hanging out, they are a much more closed society. Austin is much more welcoming to people moving here (I have heard 80% of the people in Austin were not from here...interestingly most are supposedly from Houston and Dallas. ). San Antonio has a good biking scene as well.
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    I'm a native Houstonian and don't see the issues you guys have experienced. Maybe I just hang out with good folks don't bother with the trash and snobs of the city. Houston (and surrounding areas) is growing exponentially.
    Obese people? Sure. That's everywhere. Our food scene is pretty expansive as well, no pun intended.
    You looking for fit women? They are plentiful as well.
    BTW, if you have any law enforcement questions, feel free to PM me. I'm with Houston.

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    each city in texas has its own character. Houston has the best international food, close to the gulf but is a lot more humid. flat. Can get hit by hurricanes.

    Austin is pretty dry, somewhat pretentious and more expensive. Hills (300-400ft elevation climbs). Best trails in texas (except big bend)

    Dallas has a huge amount of sprawl and is pretty materialistic. Flat. slightly colder weather in the winter, gets hit by more storms.

    San antonio is more blue collar same hill country as austin.

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    I think the difference might be that you are a native. Those of us that moved there did not have a similar experience. Also, I would say that Houston is much more conservative than Austin. So if you are on that end of the spectrum you'd also have an easier time fitting in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drboudreaux View Post
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    Re: What's living in Texas like?

    People actually mountain bike in the Dallas area? I have just spent three of the last 5 weeks in the Dallas, Irving' Addison area and I don't think I saw a hill over 20 feet tall for a hundred mile radius. I even asked the girl working at a frozen yogurt shop what on earth people living in the DFW area do for outdoor recreation. As far as I can tell there is no trail running, no camping, no hiking.... And it's kind of hard to mountain bike without any mountains.

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    DORBA would be your best place to check out Dallas biking. From what I understand there is biking in Dallas but you won't get much climbing and you will probably have to drive a little more to get to the trails.
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    Mountains = NO
    Trails = LOTS
    I live south of Fort Worth, we call it the doorstep to the hill country. Cedar Hill to the northeast 45 mins. Glen Rose, Cleburne, Waco, then on south about 2 hours from Austin's trails and the mighty fine Reveille Peak Ranch in Burnet!

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    I have visited Houston dozens of times and seen a lot of it because my wife is from Houston. Other than visiting family, I can't wait to get out of that place. Flat, hot, crowded, humid, wasteland of strip malls and boredom. if people find these things compelling enough to stay there, I can see why people who live just about anywhere else don't get along with them.

    I lived in San Antonio for seven years and I really think it's a great place. Good trails around the city, the downtown area is a lot of fun to wander around, good food, etc. it's close to Austin and a few other cities that have interesting stuff to do. it's cheaper to live there than Austin and has most of the "hip" things that Austin has. if you really need a fix of music and hippie stuff, you can drive an hour to Austin.

    however, I am moving to Austin in a few weeks. although my main reason is to be closer to family, I admit to being just giddy over proximity to organic food co-ops, a steady parade of good music, bike lanes, dog parks, bars, accessible public transport, and all that modern lefty stuff for which Austin is infamous. I have wanted to live there since I saw bmx pros shredding the city in Road Fools 1 circa 1996 and it's finally happening.

    the summers are really, really hot. drink lots of water, y'all.

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    Just move somewhere near the hill country. Best bet for the best variety of trails Texas has to offer. You cant go wrong with the likes of Reveille Peak Ranch, Flat Rock Ranch, Government Canyon and many more. San Antonio And Austin you have everything from fast flowy to the technical in areas.

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    Thanks for all the suggestions, everybody!

    I get along with everybody, I'm a libertarian/anarchist at heart haha

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    Born in Houston, lived in Dallas for two years now living in Austin. Austin is BY FAR the best city in Texas to live in. Especially if you are a music lover. Bike trails here blow DFW and Houston away, I won't even go ride the trails in Houston anymore, they're pathetic compared to anywhere else. Houston is a dirty flat boring city. I have love for it since I was born there and grew up there but Austin blows it away. There is a reason why Austin is the fastest growing city in America... because people love living here.
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    Dude going off your must have bullet list Austin is perfect. Epic MTB trails everywhere. Single women everywhere! Good career jobs can be had in one day of looking. Housing is a pretty good bang for your buck. They have festivals and events going on every weekend downtown. Im fact they have one this weekend campaigning to host the Summer X games next year. The climate is hot but much dryer than OH. 98 degree day is not that bad once you get the hang of it. Its much better than 92 with 99% humidity! I live in San Antonio area and its nice but your looking for Austin.
    San Antonio still has a ton of stuff to do but not like Austin does. I find myself driving up there on a regular basis. Living in Texas will extend your life span greatly because you can't help but go outside and Play. Plus you will actually have money to do it! Move you will not turn back.
    Also you wanna go riding when you get here PM some of us. Oh make sure you have a 29er bike. You will get really good at rocks quick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sxshep View Post
    Thanks for all the suggestions, everybody!

    I get along with everybody, I'm a libertarian/anarchist at heart haha
    Yet you want to be a cop?

    From the sounds of it then you would probably fit best in Austin. I live an hour away and visit friends there almost every weekend. You can bicycle a lot of places, there is a great music scene, it's a college town so lots of chicks, and people are generally open and sociable.

    My mother got a job outside of Houston and she and my brother hated it. it literally drove my brother to depression so he went to go live with my grandmother off the coast of Delaware, and my mom barely mountain biked the year she was there because the trails sucked that bad. needless to say she left ASAP

    There are a lot of nice places in CenTex to look at without absolutely having to move to Austin because IMO traffic would piss me off that bad. Or maybe live outside of Austin and work in it, a lot of people do that.

    I visited Dallas once and it wasn't that great IMO.

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    Lived in Round Rock and Plfugerville near Austin for a couple of years. Loved Austin, hated I-35 traffic as it's the only interstate through Texas. It's one huge bottleneck through there. Loved it though.

    That being said:

    Do you LOVE fire ants? Damn things are everywhere even in your house. You learn to deal with them, but nasty little buggers. Make one mad and the rest of them come pissed off as hell.

    Do you like Nazi Neighborhood Organizations? tons of those when I lived there. Next door neighbor was harassed all the time for stupid little things.

    Not sure expensive Austin area is now. We were there in 2000 and houses were into the 300,000s. Bought our house for 89,000 and sold it for 118,000 after two years of living there.

    Always loved how you say "rain" or even worse "snow" and all of Texas shuts down. LOL.

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    Bethany brings up a good point....

    HOAs (Home Owner Associations) are the bane of a home owner's existence. They claim to "protect" your home value by enlisting a bunch of lemming leaders and house wives with too much time on their hands to create and "enforce" their rules. The rules are 100% about fitting into whatever mold they see fit. Plenty of good neighborhoods to be had without the hassle of HOAs and all their BS.
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    What's living in Texas like?

    Grew up in the DFW area for years and I loved it. I'm now in nw Louisiana and I hate it. Can't wait to move back.
    If you're a sports fan:

    DFW has the cowboys, the rangers, the mavericks, and the stars and two minor league baseball teams and several universities with ok football teams

    Houston has the texans, the Astros, and the rockets and several universities

    Austin has one university with decent sports and one minor league baseball.

    Just sayin

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    Re: What's living in Texas like?

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    Austin has one university with decent sports and one minor league baseball.

    Just sayin
    I don't know if you'd call the #1 overall athletic program I'm the nation "decent".

    But Austin sucks... Don't move there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awshucks View Post
    Yet you want to be a cop?
    Haha yeah, well more specifically a detective... Gotta start somewhere

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    What's living in Texas like?

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    I don't know if you'd call the #1 overall athletic program I'm the nation "decent".

    But Austin sucks... Don't move there.
    It's all speculative about sports and who's number 1 anyway, but as a long time swc now big 12 conf fan and even bigger sec conf fan, it's a stretch to call TU decent

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    Re: What's living in Texas like?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadMacMan View Post
    It's all speculative about sports and who's number 1 anyway, but as a long time swc now big 12 conf fan and even bigger sec conf fan, it's a stretch to call TU decent
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    apparently Texas is a great place to ask harmless questions sit back to watch them turn into acrimonious debates about politics and sports rivalries.

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    What's living in Texas like?

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    Oh god you're from that little brother syndrome school
    Sorta kinda. I have close family ties to TAMU and I love to tell him aggie jokes

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    apparently Texas is a great place to ask harmless questions sit back to watch them turn into acrimonious debates about politics and sports rivalries.
    There's no acrimony here. All I did was point out that DFW and Houston have more to offer sports wise to the op(assuming he's a sports fan) than Austin does

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    Its funny that everyone in texas except aggies hate the aggies. Good school but aggies suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sxshep View Post
    Thanks for all the suggestions, everybody!
    Have you considered working in the private sector?

    If I was 26yr old single and looking to make a bunch of money no better place than the oil field. With the Eagle Ford Shale and Pearsall Shale natural gas fracking (see map below) it's a gold mine for those wanting to make a LOT of money as in six figures money.

    "As of March 2012 Texas had listed nearly 6,000 oil and gas fracking wells on FracFocus, an industry fracking disclosure site. The Texas list was by far the most of any state in the country" (source)

    We are talking truck drivers with a clean CDL and that can pass a drug test are making $70K starting pay. Companies are having job fairs all the time and hiring on the spot and some with hiring bonus of $10K.

    In my line of business I travel all over Texas and have seen the oil boom within the last six years and it's not slowing down. It's not all roughneck or grunt work. I personally know a few folks that have quit college or working as a diesel mechanic to work in the oil fields making more money than they even thought possible with their own company F250 truck and expense account, housing allowance and per diem and making $100K+ a year.

    Yeah the downsides are you'll mainly be in the middle of nowhere Texas for a few weeks at a time but most places have a two week on two week off or some variant of that so you can enjoy your time off spending money, chasing tail and riding or whatever.





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    Ive lived in Austin for 2 years now. Before that, I lived in Fort Worth for 2 years. (Before that, I lived in Denver, Chicago, and originally from Oklahoma). Its hot everywhere here for long periods of time. 2 summers ago, we had almost 100 days of over 100 degrees. it was just hot for like 5 straight months and didnt let up until October.

    Also, people here are really proud of being from Texas for some reason. Its kind of indoctrinated in them from birth. I dont really get it. Austin is a cool city to live in, but the rest of the state is not anything special. and Id much rather live in Denver than Austin.

    State income tax is 0, but property taxes are pretty high. the governments gotta make their money somehow. My thoughts on the main cities below:

    DFW - massive and sprawling. Traffic is a mess for different reasons. Dallas is a mess because there are so many damn people. FW is a mess because their highways havent been expanded in a long time (820 and I-35 are 2 lanes each way right thru the heart of town which is absolutely ridiculous). Pretty much everything is at least a 20 minute drive from where you live. You will spend a TON of time in your car. Tons of chain restaurants and strip malls although some good places can certainly be found. the mountain biking is actually not too bad to be honest but nothing super technical or crazy. its mainly XC riding save for a couple spots (Big Cedar and small parts of northshore). Honestly, I didnt like living in the metroplex and am really glad i dont have to go back.

    Austin - not so massive as DFW or Houston. I like it pretty well but i live north of Braker and my office is 3 miles north of that, so I dont have to deal with traffic too often. traffic is bad, but IMO, it is really only bad for 7-10 miles, whereas traffic in DFW is just pervasive everywhere.

    great Mexican/BBQ restaurants and bars and very laidback feel everywhere. less douchey uppity 25 year olds than Dallas, but more douchey hipster 25 year olds. i guess i prefer hipsters a little more than 25 year old frat guys. affordable real estate, but its going up quickly and you probably cant afford to buy a place really close in. pretty much any house south of 2222 is gonna be $350K and up

    mountain biking in Austin is the best in TX. i dont think its even close. rocky, decent amounts of elevation (for TX) change and technical challenges.

    Houston - ive never met anyone who actually likes Houston. ive only been there a few times. it didnt seem awful, but didnt seem much different from Dallas. lots of concrete and tons of humidity.

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    Stereotypes are true.

    Only two types of people live in Austin those that were born there and ones that have moved to Austin from another state from reading these "pro-Austin" threads it seems so.

    I guess the rest of us in Texas do not suffer fools (gladly) therefore we avoid Austin/Austinites as you can see for example why in just this thread alone.

    The dislike for Houston is more of jealosy than hatred.

    No matter what even with all the anti-Texas rhetoric from other states it seems that people who "get it" are moving here in recordnumbers

    On a lighter note it's always fun to goof on TAMU as Dr. Karol Kogslotter, a.k.a SEC Guy proves it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jizzim View Post
    I'm a native Houstonian and don't see the issues you guys have experienced. Maybe I just hang out with good folks don't bother with the trash and snobs of the city. Houston (and surrounding areas) is growing exponentially.
    Obese people? Sure. That's everywhere. Our food scene is pretty expansive as well, no pun intended.
    You looking for fit women? They are plentiful as well.
    BTW, if you have any law enforcement questions, feel free to PM me. I'm with Houston.
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    You won't get what being a proud Texan is all about if you're not from here. You'll never get it. I don't know of any other place where the people are proud of their state like we are. There's so much history here.

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    What's living in Texas like?

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    apparently Texas is a great place to ask harmless questions sit back to watch them turn into acrimonious debates about politics and sports rivalries.
    That's not Texas, that's MTBR.

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    From what I understand there is biking in Dallas but you won't get much climbing
    I highly recommend Big Cedar and Sansom for climbing in the DFW area. IMO these two seem harder to me aerobically than most Austin trails. I think the DORBA trail system is excellent. Favorites: Big Cedar and Northshore.

    I have family in Austin and have ridden almost all of the trails there and enjoy them immensely. Favorites there: Pace Bend, City Park, Reveille Peak and Rocky Hill (latter two are outside Austin but not too far).

    San Antonio - Government Canyon and Hill Country State Natural Area (well Bandera but I think worth the drive).


    A few notes about DFW: A few of the local trails are accessible via the train (I work in downtown Dallas and take the train every day). Do not expect pristine nature on some of the local trails in the city (Boulder Park, OCNP, RCP, all fun trails but they are in the city).

    From DFW the weekend trip to Arkansas is easy and those trails are fantastic! Good luck

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    Texas has a rich history and fiercely independent that is what Texans are proud about folks form other states don't get that.

    You have to remember Texas was it's own nation from the years of 1836 to 1846 and I believe only Vermont and Hawaii were their own republics or nations also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL 9000 View Post

    The dislike for Houston is more of jealosy than hatred.

    I disagree. And having lived in both, I can say that I truly prefer Austin over Houston.

    And why does this have to be an argument, people are entitled to their opinions. Folks here have explained why they like Austin. That should be enough.

    It's a bad situation when someone can only win by making someone else lose. Nobody is trying to win anything here.

    But you are inadvertently proving some points. The reality is that there are plenty of places to live in this world. Pick the one that fits you best and move there.
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    But you are inadvertently proving some points. The reality is that there are plenty of places to live in this world. Pick the one that fits you best and move there.
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    Its funny that everyone in texas except aggies hate the aggies. Good school but aggies suck.
    I know some non-aggies that like aggies but nice generalization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL 9000 View Post
    Have you considered working in the private sector?

    If I was 26yr old single and looking to make a bunch of money no better place than the oil field. With the Eagle Ford Shale and Pearsall Shale natural gas fracking (see map below) it's a gold mine for those wanting to make a LOT of money as in six figures money.
    I have, actually... All this brainstorming about moving out of Cincy started with a dream where I literally sold everything I own and just moved somewhere. No job, nothing planned, just up and left. I could do just about anything, I'd love to work in culinary or something to get on my feet until I find a full time LEO job. Police work is about the only thing that I feel passionate enough about to make a career out of, though... Everything else would just be a "job"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sxshep View Post
    Police work is about the only thing that I feel passionate enough about to make a career out of, though... Everything else would just be a "job"
    Can't argue with that go with what will make YOU happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sxshep View Post
    Police work is about the only thing that I feel passionate enough about to make a career out of, though... Everything else would just be a "job"
    I recently thought deeper about my shitty job (good pay does not make for non-shitty). I took too much Latin in school, so there you go...

    The word "vocation" comes from the Latin word "voco" (voe-koe) or "vocare" (voe-kar-ee) which is a verb meaning "to call." A true vocation is that which you are called to do. Whether by religious beliefs or just personal conviction. Happiness in one's "job" really seems to have its roots in aligning that "job" with your true calling.... thus making your job your vocation.

    Congrats on finding what makes you happy... don't let anybody/anything get in your way from pursuing that happiness. If you do lose your way, you will find yourself later in life trying to find your way back to the right path. (Yes... I am working on getting back to my path.)
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    And FWIW... if you think Dallas is full of douchey frat boys and $30K-millionaires, you have spent too much time north of IH635... there is a bunch of area and people south of 635 in the areas between Dallas and Ft Worth that we call "suburbanites" that smell a whole lot less like vinegar. To classify the entire area of DFW by such a small segment of folks (the douche bags) is silly. Every city has the same number of douche bags on the statistical scale.... you just hung out with too many while you were here.
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    FYI, all things aside when it comes to Texas the reason you're looking to move here is a job and for that matter be careful when going for AustinPD, they have a standard wait list/approval rate which scares law enforcement seekers away to other metropolises. San Antonio is one of the highest rated PDs in the state and country and are ALWAYS looking for new candidates, along with Houston and Dallas.

    Good luck in your future, enjoy the state when you make it here.

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    I think the frat-bros and hipsters are on the front lines of any society, they're the more social kind of stereotypes... Every city will have that. Cincinnati is chalked full of them, esp. near the campuses and the downtown nightlife. They don't bug me, and in my line of work tend to add to the job security haha

    Politically, I don't really care... I like the "charm" and social life of what most would call "liberal" areas (sounds like Austin is one of them), and also laid back nature of "conservative" areas. One of my favorite neighborhoods of Cincinnati is Over-the-Rhine, a very historical part of the city that housed about a dozen breweries in the early 20th century. In the 90's it was very poor, very crime-ridden and just a nasty nasty place to go. When the riots came in 2001, the city shot down much of it's Section 8 housing in an effort to kick crime out of the city. Recently it's gone through some MAJOR restoration, adding a lot of bars and restaurants to the area. It's hipster HEAVEN, but also a great place to go on the weekend.

    Would I want to live there? Probably not. Ideally I'd like an area that has great night life, somewhat "liberal" and friendly nightlife, awesome food, etc etc... But I'd like to be able to drive 20-30 minutes to work and live out in the sticks where I can have some peace and quiet. If I want to go in town for a nice night out, I'm not far away. I like having the job security of the big city, but the ability to drive 30 minutes home and be left alone.

    I think Austin sounds great, and San Antonio.... Houston sounds muggy and flat, but being near the ocean has some appeal. I'm keeping my ears open, though, and I'll work on some applications this week.

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    San Antonio (Bandera to be specific) is one of the only places in TX that I would leave my home to live in.... beautiful country and a nice town.
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    What is it like living in Texas? Well June till mid September its just hot as heck. Pretty nice otherwise. But TX is large, so if one is in Amarillo instead of Corpus Christi it is very different. City life is also much different than smaller towns.

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    Good to see it firmly established here Houston is the anus of the south west.
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    The only reason people actually live in Houston is they're tied to the oil jobs. Once they retire, they move to Austin almost immediately. Houston sucks ass, it's dirty as hell and the ghetto keeps moving further north every year. I remember going in a skyscraped on a certain floor in houston and seeing clouds of smog engulfing the entire city and staining all of the buildings on certain floors, so disgusting. Astros are hte bomb though, suck it Rangers fans.


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    It must be miserable to have to:
    A. View everything in life as a competition
    B. Always have to win everything, regardless of whether it matters

    Take a look at my comment that you bothered to quote:

    "The reality is that there are plenty of places to live in this world. Pick the one that fits you best and move there."

    You are continuing to prove our points and not showing a good side of houston.
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    I think Houston would be too big for me, at least on paper... I'll be coming from a city with a little under 300k population (and 2.1M metropolitan). I think going to a city with 2.1M and 6M metro would be awful, no offense. Again this is all on paper and based on talking to people (and on forums), but Austin seems like it would have a little more "charm" and like it would be a college town, which I like. Only thing I'm not liking is the housing prices, but compared to police departments in the SW Ohio area, the pay seems to make up for it. Average starting salary for around here is about $45-50k, Austin is about $55-60k

    I'm trudging through some applications now... I'm sure in the event I move down there, I'd miss SW Ohio and all it's glory. I just want a change, and if I'm making a big move like this I'd like to go somewhere that I can have some fun.

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    Keep in mind that Texas does not have state income tax. Property taxes are higher but if you are renting that is offset a bit.

    I recommend renting for a year and not jumping right into ownership. The last few years have changed the benefits of ownership, pushing it down a bit so the benefit of owning over renting is no longer as large.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sxshep View Post
    I think Houston would be too big for me, at least on paper... I'll be coming from a city with a little under 300k population (and 2.1M metropolitan). I think going to a city with 2.1M and 6M metro would be awful, no offense. Again this is all on paper and based on talking to people (and on forums), but Austin seems like it would have a little more "charm" and like it would be a college town, which I like. Only thing I'm not liking is the housing prices, but compared to police departments in the SW Ohio area, the pay seems to make up for it. Average starting salary for around here is about $45-50k, Austin is about $55-60k

    I'm trudging through some applications now... I'm sure in the event I move down there, I'd miss SW Ohio and all it's glory. I just want a change, and if I'm making a big move like this I'd like to go somewhere that I can have some fun.
    What people fail to realize is that Houston is surrounded by many other small cities. There are plenty of places to live that don't give you the big city vibe but still within driving distance to Houston for work, play, etc. Houston is just spread out. I don't know of any other city where you can drive almost 40 mins and still be in Houston. lol True story. Try driving from west Houston to east Houston.
    Again, as stated I work for Houston. If you have any questions about hiring process, pay, incentives, etc. Let me know.

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    People actually mountain bike in the Dallas area? I have just spent three of the last 5 weeks in the Dallas, Irving' Addison area and I don't think I saw a hill over 20 feet tall for a hundred mile radius. I even asked the girl working at a frozen yogurt shop what on earth people living in the DFW area do for outdoor recreation. As far as I can tell there is no trail running, no camping, no hiking.... And it's kind of hard to mountain bike without any mountains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sxshep View Post
    I think Houston would be too big for me, at least on paper... I'll be coming from a city with a little under 300k population (and 2.1M metropolitan). I think going to a city with 2.1M and 6M metro would be awful, no offense. Again this is all on paper and based on talking to people (and on forums), but Austin seems like it would have a little more "charm" and like it would be a college town, which I like. Only thing I'm not liking is the housing prices, but compared to police departments in the SW Ohio area, the pay seems to make up for it. Average starting salary for around here is about $45-50k, Austin is about $55-60k

    I'm trudging through some applications now... I'm sure in the event I move down there, I'd miss SW Ohio and all it's glory. I just want a change, and if I'm making a big move like this I'd like to go somewhere that I can have some fun.
    While it may seem big on paper, it is even larger in real life when you are living there. You are on the right track. Austin or San Antonio you will probably like. Houston - you will think back on this thread and the comments made and hate yourself for ignoring them and moving to Houston.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sxshep View Post
    I'd like to go somewhere that I can have some fun.
    Well it seems that the spiritual and gravitational forces are pulling you to central Texas. As much as I like to bash on Austin/Austinites it's got alot of stuff to do if you like outdoor activities the biking can't be beat in and around the central Texas area.

    My wife's family has a lake house on Lake Travis and it's always nice to visit for the weekend and get some riding in at Pace Bend just minutes away.

    And of course the live music, nightlife and social scene in Austin is what all the twenty somethings are into these days.

    Houston on the other hand is the black hole for any type of decent/challenging mountain biking there is a severe dearth of trails therefore one must own a road bike if you want any exercise during the week in Houston.

    I live less than a mile from Memorial Park where their are Mt.Bike trails yet they so worn out tired and messed up from the drought that I can count on one hand all the times I've ridden them in the last year. I consider myself a "roadie" these days than a Mt.Biker it's THAT bad for riding in Houston.

    If your chasing dollars and want to live cheap Houston can't be beat if you were ten years older married with children I'd call you a fool for not considering Houston however... at 26 and single and liberally minded Austin is calling you.

    Southwest Airline tickets are cheap perhaps you could visit for a few days rent a bike check out the trails i'm sure someone on here could show you around and you could see if the Austin vibe is for you.


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    If you do come to Austin, here is the detail that you need:

    http://www.austinbike.com/blog/312-s...ming-to-austin

    I no longer leave the country so if you are here I can give you a tour of the trails.
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    I agree HAL, Houston is dirt cheap as far as living goes. Hard to beat if you're a family man. There are plenty of places here to call home.
    Our trails here are so-so but good thing there are other trails available. There's River Bend, Cypresswood, Ant hills, and others. Are they super challenging? I guess it all depends on your health and skill level. With that said, Bluff Creek and Rocky Hill Ranch are close enough for a day trip. Same with Austin..

    In my opinion given the nature of mountain bikers in general, it seems that most if not all would gravitate towards Austin and the way of life there. It almost goes hand in hand. It took me a long time to warm up to Austin as a Houstonian.
    I honestly wonder how Austin will be in 10 years. Seems like EVERYONE is moving there. Austin isn't big compared to Houston and you have all these people jammed up in there. Can't wait to see the posts later on about people complaining on how congested Austin is becoming.

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    I already say there are too many people in Austin.

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    That is what everyone worried about when I moved here almost 17 years ago from Houston. I remember people telling me that I was an idiot for buying a house at the "top of the market." 328% later I am pretty happy with the appreciation in real estate over those same years.

    Yeah, it's a lot bigger now, and the traffic is worse, but with the problems of a larger city comes more benefits (more restaurants, vaguely better flights, etc.)

    It's all a tradeoff. I can hit a dozen trails from my house in central Austin, the barton creek greenbelt (one of the best trails in texas) is 10 minutes from my house. If I want to expand my loop to around 45 minutes, I can add in another dozen or so great trails like Lake Georgetown, Rocky Hill Ranch, Reimer's Ranch and Pace Bend.

    Compared to Chicago and Houston where I lived before, I can do more riding in less time and hassle. Sure, I can't get great Korean food at 4AM like I used to be able to in Chicago, but, now that I am older, that is no longer a pressing need.

    It's all about quality of life. What do you want to DO with your life? I want to ride, and that makes this city the natural choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austin_bike View Post

    It's all about quality of life. What do you want to DO with your life? I want to ride, and that makes this city the natural choice.
    Some of us like making money and getting the ridiculous stuff that it buys

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    Quote Originally Posted by trevor_b View Post
    I already say there are too many people in Austin.
    There are, and were a long time ago, too. People that say it's not humid in Austin lie, or are from terribly worse places, like Houston.
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    pfft figures hal would buy a mustang.

    Real men buy real cars buddy



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    It's all about quality of life. What do you want to DO with your life? I want to ride, and that makes this city the natural choice.
    I wish I had the green belt or something similar close. I live in Georgetown and commute to Austin for work currently. During the week I'm not able to ride at this point. I would have to ride 8 to 10 miles just to get to LGT then could probably only handle a short out and back there. I urban ride once or so during the week but that gets boring. I've been wanting to relocate to be close to some nice single track. Hopefully in a couple years.

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    I do miss living on (parents house backed up to it) the cypresswood trail, been riding that trail since the late 90's. Since the city took it over it hasn't been the same though. Too many people ripping out whatever semi technical stuff that was there. Austin has rocks though, and u cant just rip those out hehe. My fav trail has to be emma long, LOVE it. Greenbelt is nice but is too crowded for me, i like to stop on the technical stuff and hit it multiple times and that's just not very feasible when there is a jogger ever 5 feet. There is a new trail out in Cedar Park that i've been cheating on emma long with. oh crap i've said too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodyRoots View Post
    I do miss living on (parents house backed up to it) the cypresswood trail, been riding that trail since the late 90's. Since the city took it over it hasn't been the same though. Too many people ripping out whatever semi technical stuff that was there. Austin has rocks though, and u cant just rip those out hehe. My fav trail has to be emma long, LOVE it. Greenbelt is nice but is too crowded for me, i like to stop on the technical stuff and hit it multiple times and that's just not very feasible when there is a jogger ever 5 feet. There is a new trail out in Cedar Park that i've been cheating on emma long with. oh crap i've said too much.
    I have not been back to Emma long since last summer. I heard its been hacked quite a bit to make it easier. Is this true? I really need to get back out there. Sorry off topic. LoL

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    Quote Originally Posted by XRaptor View Post
    I have not been back to Emma long since last summer. I heard its been hacked quite a bit to make it easier. Is this true? I really need to get back out there. Sorry off topic. LoL
    I have done 11 laps at City Park in the last 2 weeks (35 for the year) so I have a pretty good perspective on the work that was done. You can find some specifics here:

    http://www.austinbike.com/blog/355-w...g-at-city-park

    In reality, yes, there are some features where it is easier, but in 95% of the cases while an easier line was put in, you can still ride a more technical line. The biggest change is that if you want a more technical ride you have to do a better job of picking your lines.

    The problem with City Park was that the trail was becoming unsustainable and something had to be done. There were features that had become so rutted and degraded that cheater lines were being created around them. The cheater lines were not well planned (mainly by motorcycles) and that was really tearing up the trail.

    The work that was done does make the trail easier, but there is still a technical line if you want it. Most of all, the trail has the cheater lines closed off (2-3 have magically resurfaced) and the features are more sustainable. There are 2-3 that I have concerns about, but there was work done on ~30 different areas and ultimately this will help much more than hurt.
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    Re: What's living in Texas like?

    Quote Originally Posted by BloodyRoots View Post
    There is a new trail out in Cedar Park that i've been cheating on emma long with. oh crap i've said too much.
    I do like that trail, if it's the one I think you're talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodyRoots View Post
    and put big hair driers on them as well

    I don't understand centrifugal superchargers.... get the benefits of forced induction with the drag of a drive belt but be denied the acoustic accompaniment of the edges of the rotors ever so slightly touching? Roots or bust, baby!

    Seriously though.... one of my car friends had a worked over Lightning (now has a CTS-V) that had INSANE SC noise.... that noise haunts my dreams at night and ranks as one of the most addictive sounds from a car. Supercharger whine is like crack.

    If I can't have that whine, I will take a turbo, thank you. Of course my baby isn't nearly as beastly as either the Vete or the Cobra....



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    Quote Originally Posted by austin_bike View Post
    I have done 11 laps at City Park in the last 2 weeks (35 for the year) so I have a pretty good perspective on the work that was done. You can find some specifics here:

    http://www.austinbike.com/blog/355-w...g-at-city-park

    In reality, yes, there are some features where it is easier, but in 95% of the cases while an easier line was put in, you can still ride a more technical line. The biggest change is that if you want a more technical ride you have to do a better job of picking your lines.

    The problem with City Park was that the trail was becoming unsustainable and something had to be done. There were features that had become so rutted and degraded that cheater lines were being created around them. The cheater lines were not well planned (mainly by motorcycles) and that was really tearing up the trail.

    The work that was done does make the trail easier, but there is still a technical line if you want it. Most of all, the trail has the cheater lines closed off (2-3 have magically resurfaced) and the features are more sustainable. There are 2-3 that I have concerns about, but there was work done on ~30 different areas and ultimately this will help much more than hurt.
    Okay sweet! Heard from others it was just crap now. I feel better knowing that you still have options. I really need to get a ride up there soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight511 View Post
    I don't understand centrifugal superchargers.... get the benefits of forced induction with the drag of a drive belt but be denied the acoustic accompaniment of the edges of the rotors ever so slightly touching? Roots or bust, baby!

    Seriously though.... one of my car friends had a worked over Lightning (now has a CTS-V) that had INSANE SC noise.... that noise haunts my dreams at night and ranks as one of the most addictive sounds from a car. Supercharger whine is like crack.

    If I can't have that whine, I will take a turbo, thank you. Of course my baby isn't nearly as beastly as either the Vete or the Cobra....



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    All of the new twin screw superchargers still dont hold a candle to a good centrifugal blower. I think the new TVS is one of the more heatefficient blowers out there but at higher rpms it's still a damn heaton. On the street or on the dyno, CSC's and turbos rule. Ever heard an f1 at idle? Completely sh*ts on a roots style, unless the roots style is cog.
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    That's the other thing I was gonna ask... How's the car scene? I bet it's pretty good, I know a lot of guys who go down to those TK2K meets almost every year (I think in Houston).

    Here's my little "rice burner", a 2009 MS3... just a Corksport TIP/SRI/Cold Air Box, Cobb Accessport, JBR motor mount, short shift plate, nothing too special. It does what I need it to do, with enough fun factor to tempt fate if I want.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sxshep View Post
    That's the other thing I was gonna ask... How's the car scene? I bet it's pretty good, I know a lot of guys who go down to those TK2K meets almost every year (I think in Houston).

    Here's my little "rice burner", a 2009 MS3... just a Corksport TIP/SRI/Cold Air Box, Cobb Accessport, JBR motor mount, short shift plate, nothing too special. It does what I need it to do, with enough fun factor to tempt fate if I want.

    Car scene in Austin is a joke. Houston and Dallas are the best in the nation. TX2K has gotten kinda crappy with all of the fast cars doing their own thing privately. The new hotness is TI, used to be Houston vs Dallas until we got an air strip to let us run on, now it's pretty much the premier event to get invited to. The rule of thumb in TX is ... if you don't make 1000rw, pick a different hobby.
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    Austin is not terrible, you just have to try harder. Dallas.... the scene use to be better, but it is still okay. There is always the Texas Mile if you just need to go as fast as you can. Tons of racing (strip, auto-x and road) around.... plenty of car clubs.... yeah... we are okay on cars down here.

    FWIW, Cobb Tuning (the Plano location at least) has a decent meet the first Thursday of every month... I am told (I haven't been) that there are quite a few MS3s at them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodyRoots View Post
    All of the new twin screw superchargers still dont hold a candle to a good centrifugal blower. I think the new TVS is one of the more heatefficient blowers out there but at higher rpms it's still a damn heaton. On the street or on the dyno, CSC's and turbos rule. Ever heard an f1 at idle? Completely sh*ts on a roots style, unless the roots style is cog.
    Didn't say I cared about performance, all I said was the sound is what mattered for a SC. The parasitic drag of a SC will always make it inferior to a turbo. (car shit talk.... on a mountain bike forum. :loL: )
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    I'm coming from a Houston and Dallas standpoint. I was completely spoiled and ruined in Dallas, if it doesnt make 1krw, idgaf about it. I'm sure the scene here is okay, but I'm just not interested in it I'll occasionally run over to SW's shop and see what toys he's recently purchased.
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    I'll throw in two cents...

    I've lived all over Texas (currently just west of Fort Worth).

    Grew up in Waco, and while it's not the greatest city in Texas, it's not bad. And Cameron Park trails are pretty damn nice.

    Lived in Wichita Falls...it's a silly place. Avoid it.

    Fort Worth. I don't live in FW (actually about 50 miles away), but I commute in on a regular basis. I like it. Great city. Lots of fun stuff to do, but you will drive. A lot.

    Austin: I'm working my way back down to Austin. Wife's family is there, so we're there pretty regularly. Thinking we may try to move somewhere close to Austin, but not in. I may transfer to our office in San Marcos. Kayaking/Tubing rivers in the hill country makes summers awesome.

    I have a buddy that just got a job with Gillespie County Sheriff's office. Probably not the best money to be made in law enforcement, but it's beautiful country and very laid back. You may want to look into some of the more rural areas, and smaller cities like Kerrville (only old people there, so they won't give you much trouble). The Texas hill country is by far the best part of our state.

    Best part is, I've yet to live somewhere that didn't have MTB trails (even wichita falls...). We live at Possum Kingdom Lake right now, which has 12 miles of super steep rocky trails. My lungs are getting in better and better shape with each passing day! hahahaha


    BTW---I have nothing to say about Houston. Only ever drove through. Got stuck in traffic.

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    I'd rather be stuck in Houston traffic compared to Austin's rush hour. Houston traffic although thick flows to a degree. You're not stuck sitting in one spot for too long except if you're on 290. 290 can go f-ck itself.

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