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    DORBA - Is it down?

    I can log in but see no forums. I can see trails page.

    Another person at work can't even log in.

    Anyone else having problems?
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    yes, its down...very regular occurence, anytime you have issues like you mention, its down

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    I can't decide if the fiasco known as dorba.org is funny or sad.
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    Dorba 3.0 is supposed to be right around the corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbbicycles View Post
    Dorba 3.0 is supposed to be right around the corner.
    SO what?

    They hired a "design" firm. How is it going to be deployed? Maintained? Backed up? What of fail over handing?

    Do you remember Dorba 1.0? It was vastly more reliable.

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    Pretty pathetic for one of the largest MTB organizations...anyone know the eta of 3.0?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEffDub View Post
    Pretty pathetic for one of the largest MTB organizations...anyone know the eta of 3.0?
    its not like its a moneymaking organization, it lives off donated money and time...big deal, get over it

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    its not like its a moneymaking organization, it lives off donated money and time...big deal, get over it
    Moneymaking or not, the organization exist to support off-road biking in DFW. The main way DORBA does this is by providing information and updates through their website. If that doesn't work, then what is the point of me paying dues?

    I am sure there are other great things DORBA does with the dues collections from the 1000+ members, but would argue that nothing should be more important than spending that revenue on establishing a site that's more stable.

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    the trails are the absolute first thing and most important thing, period, its absurd to think a website is more important...just be glad dorba has such a nice website, its not like its down ll the time, its intermittent and isnt the only avenue for trail updates (which i assume is what you are upset about, as everything else is trivial at best)

    if you guys are so perturbed by it, i suggest you get off your ass and do something about it...but you wont, youll just cry like spoiled children

    im also very doubtful there are 1000+ members

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    the trails are the absolute first thing and most important thing, period, its absurd to think a website is more important...just be glad dorba has such a nice website, its not like its down ll the time, its intermittent and isnt the only avenue for trail updates (which i assume is what you are upset about, as everything else is trivial at best)

    if you guys are so perturbed by it, i suggest you get off your ass and do something about it...but you wont, youll just cry like spoiled children

    im also very doubtful there are 1000+ members
    Hate to break it to you..but DORBA doesn't build or maintain trails, it's members do and for the most part they do it for free! I know, I volunteer and I'm out there cleaning and working the trails unpaid, on my time off, with my own equipment so that I and others can have trails to ride.

    DORBA provides a key function as a facilitator and its main tool to coordinate trail support and information is their website. Without that tool, the organization likely doesn't exist (as you said, other avenues exist).

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    Umm yeah dude, Dorba, the volunteer nonprofit organization, does build and maintain trails....you ever ridden Big Cedar? the trail that was just built a couple years ago and is constantly expanding? thank Dorba and Shadow
    Have you ever eaten the free food/drink, used the tools, supplies etc out there while you are volunteering on work days?

    Volunteers (that have lives and jobs outside of Dorba) also run the website, if you are so sure that this is a major issue that shouldn't be happening, why dont you volunteer to help with the web design and hosting of the website instead of working on trails? sounds like you could make pretty simple work of it

    Dorba can exist without a website, keep up the entitled attitude though for your 25 bucks a year though

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    Here are a couple quotes from the EOY December DORBA board meeting:

    "YTD we have paid over 4k for the website. The only thing more expensive is insurance which is 5k for the year."

    If DORBA doesn't think the website is the highest priority then why is one of the largest single line items the website? I was wrong, insurance is #1, website #2 for obvious reasons.

    "Membership report - Gina: 1655 total members."

    It's way over 1000...I should have said 1500+.

    And yes, I guess I'm entitled if I think a non-profit volunteer organization that collects roughly $25k a year in dues should have a working website or at the bare minimum a designated alternative.

    My fundamental issue with Dorba is that they need to spend less money on race events that lose money(which the vast majority of their members don't participate) and more on a working website and trail support for the everyday riders.

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    Because websites are not cheap regardless of their priority, they cost what they cost (besides, its only listed as the 2nd highest single item expense, not the #2 priority, there is a difference)...its also funny you didnt mention this nugget directly following what you quoted "Our trail maintenance and advocacy is about 60% of our budget", safe to assume 60% is more than $4000...does that move the website down to a #3 priority by your logic?

    Dorba does have a website that works, you are acting like its shutdown, its down AT MOST a couple hours a day, boo hoo...and they are working on a remedy, which costs money and time

    good to know that many people support Dorba with their wallets, so either help with the website yourself or stop donating to an organization you think is misappropriating its resources for what is your most important priority...crying helps no one

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    Dorba does have a website that works, you are acting like its shutdown, its down AT MOST a couple hours a day, boo hoo...and they are working on a remedy, which costs money and time
    I now only check the site for trail conditions and to log my trail hours and it seems to be down more than not for me...but maybe it's just my timing.

    Off-line again.

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    Hi There! I work at Yeti Cycles and we are currently building a AS-R Carbon Brand Ambassador XC Team. We have a stong following in our native Colorado but are looking to work with some strong age-group mtb racers in a few key areas and Texas is one of them.
    Let me know if you're interested in getting more information/applying for the team!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nramey View Post
    Hi There! I work at Yeti Cycles and we are currently building a AS-R Carbon Brand Ambassador XC Team. We have a stong following in our native Colorado but are looking to work with some strong age-group mtb racers in a few key areas and Texas is one of them.
    Let me know if you're interested in getting more information/applying for the team!
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    You might want to post this over at the Dorba.org site if/when it is working again. There are two racing forums. Not sure why there is two, but if we need that many racing forums we must have alot of racers.

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    Pissing match aside, does anyone know if there are target dates for bringing the new site on-line?

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    there are, they hired an outside company....i think its about a month out? but youd have to check the post on Dorba to be sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    there are, they hired an outside company....i think its about a month out? but youd have to check the post on Dorba to be sure
    Thank you. I'll go hunting for it when I have the chance.

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    there might be more info, this was from the front page

    "At our February meeting, the DORBA Board of Directors voted unanimously to hire DarkSpire Media to build DORBA 3.0. The new site will incorporate existing features such as our forums and trail pages, but it will also have some new and exciting add-ons as well. We expect to be up and running in about 60 days.

    We appreciate your patience with our existing site in the interim, which as you may have noticed, has been experiencing some downtime. As we are moving forward with a new site, we are only allocating the bare minimum of resources to maintenance of the existing site, and some features have been disabled.

    As soon as the development site is up, we will need some of you to assist in the test phase of the project, so stay tuned!

    If you have any questions, comments or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me directly."

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    Been down for 2 straight days now. With the rain that has hit in that time, having a working website would be nice. Stop scolding people for wondering what is going on. It is sad really. Largest MTB groups in the world, quote from their own facebook page, seems to imply that they could deal with having a website that is accessible rather than what it is right now. I pay my dues to DORBA every year, and I expect the website to at least be working to indicate closures, canceled races, etc. DORBA should update facebook page with what the issues are rather than telling people to just shut up and deal. Not a good way to get membership numbers to increase.
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    its not been down for 2 straight days, as ive been on it today and yesterday, been down for about 2 hours now off and on today...trails are open, as they have been for a while now

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    its not been down for 2 straight days, as ive been on it today and yesterday, been down for about 2 hours now off and on today.
    Unfortunately, the customer's perception is reality. I'm in the same boat as the other guy. Every time I've tried to access dorba.org over the last couple of days it has not been available.

    I wonder when the new site will be ready?

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    id say go look in the website forum..but

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    id say go look in the website forum..but

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    Based on a facebook post, the DORBA site is basically down and out. I think the new and improved version goes live sometime next week (May 15th?).

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    nice, dont have a facebook acct so wasnt able to see the redirect

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    nice, dont have a facebook acct so wasnt able to see the redirect

    Same here...

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    I wish they would just do away with the forums (if that was the problem)... trail conditions are the most important thing there for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by knoxpossum View Post
    Based on a facebook post, the DORBA site is basically down and out. I think the new and improved version goes live sometime next week (May 15th?).
    This was later clarified in the same thread to state that no definite go-live date for the new site has been made public.

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    Calm the h3ll down, it's just a transitional phase. FYI, the www.dorba.org URL has been temporarily redirected to new DORBA Meetup site, which asks for patience until the new website goes live.

    FWIW, I am not a DORBA trail steward or board member, but if you feel like you can run things better than they are currently being run, you can always volunteer your services. Personally I am just thankful that I live in an area where there are so many folks with the time and passion to devote to the sport.

    PS also meant to write that I travel a lot on biz, and there are very few areas in the country that have as many local trails or is as active as DORBA.
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    Experienced and qualified people have volunteered to help but were turned down. Repeatedly......

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    Rain is coming.
    Looks to be hit and miss and no one came up with a back up plan on how to keep trail conditions updated.
    We have our little thread here.
    A few trail stewards do email me directly. Thank you guy's for supporting riders access to open trails.
    Anyone who knows if a trail should be opened or closed over the next 24/48 hours please post up on the trail conditions thread.

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    I can check Arbor Hills - I live nearby
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    That would be awesome. Thanks....

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    Yeah, she's down for the count...

    Welcome to the temporary home of DORBA.org. The old site finally ran into problems that keep it from being able to handle the load. Nothing is lost. But there is signifcant work to do to get the assets where folks can harvest them.

    Right now we need as many of the DORBA leadership to register so they can be given rights to edit and ad pages, etc. to help keep everyone informed.
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    Dorba seems to be itermittantly redirecting to either Facebook, or a "Meetup" based site. Is the Meetup site the "new" site. or is it temporary?
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    temp, just like dorba 2.0

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    Down again!
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    Down again!
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    seriously clark? its been killed for like a week now while the new site is being finished up

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    DORBA is up. It's the Texas power grid that goes down stealthily to make it look like DORBA's fault. ;-)

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    Whats up DORBA?

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    DORBA answers every single question asked with the statement, "Why don't you volunteer?". For a club that brags about being the largest in the country, it sure is very secretive, as well as always displaying a nasty "chip" or their shoulder when people point out the obvious about certain aspects of the club. Why can't DORBA be more informative to it's paying members who volunteer, i am one of these people. The attitude DORBA projects has declined over the last ten years, and it sucks right now. All members want are updates to when the wbsite will be up. If the company they are paying can't even give a timeline of completion, then you hired the wrong group to piece your new site together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildeyes View Post
    If the company they are paying can't even give a timeline of completion, then you hired the wrong group to piece your new site together.
    yup, really bad business from both parties...incompetency in handling contractual work id imagine
    i think the other stuff/frustration is cuz most people never go to the meetings where things are generally discussed, not sure tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    i think the other stuff/frustration is cuz most people never go to the meetings where things are generally discussed, not sure tho
    This. I went to the June meeting to find out what was going on and learned quite a bit.... some by what was said and some by what wasn't. I didn't feel like I was given a cold shoulder (NOBODY knew me) and was welcomed pretty well.
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    FYI, DORBA people recently posted on the temporary forums that they are estimating the new site will be online in four more weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildeyes View Post
    DORBA answers every single question asked with the statement, "Why don't you volunteer?". For a club that brags about being the largest in the country, it sure is very secretive, as well as always displaying a nasty "chip" or their shoulder when people point out the obvious about certain aspects of the club. Why can't DORBA be more informative to it's paying members who volunteer, i am one of these people. The attitude DORBA projects has declined over the last ten years, and it sucks right now. All members want are updates to when the wbsite will be up. If the company they are paying can't even give a timeline of completion, then you hired the wrong group to piece your new site together.
    On the meet up site, there have been many people, myself included, offer to build and host a site, myself offered for 3 months no cost. I understand they already have a developer, but I don't know of any reputable developer that wouldn't cut ties because they weren't holding up their end of the deal. Then again, if it were a reputable developer, we'd probably already have a site up and running. As for the people at RCP, they've been nothing but awesome. I haven't branched out too much to others in DORBA though. I won't be a paying member with the false promise of a website that's so far overdue it's just gotten to a certain point of stupid.

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