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    Best Tire Combo for Texas (Houston & Conroe)

    I have been running the Kenda Nevegals front and back 29x2.10 on my Pivot since I brought it back from Colorado, but the Nevegal rear tire is a slow roller. I had to air the rear tire up to 40psi before I felt like I was moving again on the trails at Huntsville. I am 190lbs. I am wondering about keeping the front tire and swapping the rear with something new. I was thinking a Maxxis Crossmark or Kenda Slant Six for the rear. I am leaning more towards the Slant Six because it seems to have more bite and cornering ability. Also, whether to go with the Slant Six 29x2.00 or 29x2.20. There is about a 40g weight difference. I will stick with the tube version because the Nevegal front I have cant be run with sealants. What are your opinions and thoughts. I am mainly riding in the Houston and Conroe area so there will be clay, sand, roots, and some actual top soil mixed in. The Nevegals have performed great but they are just a drag.

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    I have to say since i Live in H"town and Now In Broomfield,Co i run Nobby Nic's 2.35's By Schwalbe and love them, Best tire i ever had !!
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    Dont live/ride the Houston area at all...but will second Nobby Nics, for just about anywhere.
    They are an amazing tire, gobs of grip and still roll extremely well. The only downside is they are a bit more expensive.

    There is a reason they call them Neverolls, will never again buy one of those tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    Dont live/ride the Houston area at all...but will second Nobby Nics, for just about anywhere.
    They are an amazing tire, gobs of grip and still roll extremely well. The only downside is they are a bit more expensive.

    There is a reason they call them Neverolls, will never again buy one of those tires.


    People here in Colorado dont like the Nevegals as well , It's just not a good tire !!

    You can buy them here Schwalbe Nobby Nic Performance Mountain Bike Tire - Mountain Bike Tires This is the Low end of the tire but still good, I am not sure what the stock Nooby on my bike is but it has held up all last summer of riding up at Winter Park !!
    My new Quote is "don't let friends ride old bikes on DH Trails "

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    The BEST Houston area & Conroe Aka (Huntsville State Park) Tires

    Kenda Small Block 8's

    Maxxis IKON

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    I live in Houston and ride here frequently. I've got a Crossmark on the back and it does fantastic! The nobs down the middle are close together which keeps the tire fast and it corners fine (ive had no problems with side grip). Im about 205lbs and I run them at 40psi. I had some rocket rons I rode for a while, super light and fast, but they wouldn't grip for nothing when it was dry.
    Ive got an ignitor on the front which definitely slows me down a bit, but i haven't washed out in the sand since I put that sucker on there.
    You could check out the MaxxLite 310 for a rear tire. I don't know much about them, but the profile looks rather intriguing.
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    I actually picked up a Crossmark for the rear and kept my Kenda Nevegal on the front. Seems to work fine. I tested it at sandy Huntsville and it seems to work great. The only issue now is that I sheared off my rear derailleur so I am waiting on a new hanger. Hopefully it will be here before the weekend. Pivot is in Arizona so it should not take that long.

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    I tend to go for bigger tires, but I just don't think there's anything in Houston that deserves anything as meaty as a nobby nic.

    Maybe an ardent up front if you're really worried about grip, but I think crossmark/SB8 is more than enough tire for the local trails. Not like you can really ride when it gets very muddy anyway.

    For reference, on my my bike I run Highroller 2.35/Crossmark 2.1, about to change to an ardent 2.25 in the rear.
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    Something larger and slightly knobby on the front, smaller and less knobby on the back. For me it's 2.4 Rocket Ron or Nobby Nic tubeless in front and 2.1 Weirwolf, Wolverine, or SB8 tubeless on the back.

    But in reality, it doesn't matter. 700x38 (1.6) Marathon Cross works pretty well too. See lots of peeps running Nevegals, Blue Grooves, and one friend even has a 2.4 Nobby Nic on the back (gasp!).

    Buy some tires, put air in them, and ride your bike.

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    conti trail king (rubber queen) 2.2 rear
    schwalbe hans dampf 2.3 front

    trail king rolls fast and quiet and has great transition for me and that hans is moto good on the business end. the combo has done well from sand to rocks and roots for me and each has good volume for a little jumping too. put grip over weight and you can't go wrong.

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    I've run the nevegals, hutch pythons and a few of the sworks tires.... i'm currently running crossmarks... great tire.
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    Maxxis Ikon rear and Ardent front.

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    Man y'all like knobbie tires for riding in the Houston area!

    I think the last "knobbie" type tire i ran was a IRC Mythos XC back in 99' Hutchinson pythons and Kenda karmas was my go to tire back in the day for riding in the Houston area. When the "micro-knob" type tires came out I was sold on the small block 8's they grip like velcro on the local trails and roll fast and smooth.

    If you must have a knobbie tire take a look at the Specialized “The Captain Control” tire. I put them on our bikes last year when we went to Durango they have a nice knob and roll better than any other knobbie tire I did research on and worked well everywhere from fast and flowy phils world in cortez to rocky bolam pass/hotel draw up near purgatory.

    I've found out that experimenting with tire pressure will give you the biggest gains in tire performance. Going tubeless i can ride 21-24psi on 29"x2.2 tires easily on stans rims and roval carbon rims without the sensation that my tire is going to roll off the rim

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    I've had good luck with both Aspens and Saguaros on a couple different 29ers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecthelion View Post
    I've had good luck with both Aspens and Saguaros on a couple different 29ers.
    Aspens were/are great tires for places like double lake and huntsville but lacked braking bite on rocky courses in central Texas I'm giving you positve rep for the Aspens for the Houston area nonetheless...

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    i like nevegals and small block 8's

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    Well, I switched back to Nevegals front and rear for a trip to Bluff Creek Ranch in Warda TX and it was slow slow slow. The Maxxis Crossmark in the rear is the way to go if you want speed with decent traction (I went with the non-LUST non-UST version due to the weight savings). I am considering swapping out the front Nevegal to a 2012 Nobby Nic 2.35 Snakeskin just to decrease weight a little and increase speed. I want to keep something with volume and knobs in the front due to the prevalence of sand and loose over hardpack we have on Texas trails. I will say one thing for the Nevegals they never let loose the whole ride but it felt like I was riding through mud because they just stuck to the trail. I was wondering if the Nobby Nic 2.35 29er tire is true to size or if it is smaller.

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    I ride north of there and the trails have a lot of sand on them. for the sandy stuff, I like my conti mtn kings. definitely need a big tire up front to avoid washing out. I'm at 2.4 right now and happy with the results.

    on hardpack stuff, I really like micro knobbies. I haven't ridden hardpack enough in the past few years to buy some new micro knobbies, but I had really good results from Specialized FastTrack Pros back when I used them more extensively.

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    I'm a big Nevegal fan and they took good care of me when I lived in CO but they are overkill for Houston. I swapped the rear for a Slant Six which I really like. Its like a cross between a nevegal and a SB8.

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    Holy crap, you guys ride some huge tires. I'm buiding a XC bike (trance x) that can do some AM whatever there is here. I just got set of Stans wheels.

    Not to hijack thread, but I've not shopped for tires in years. I remember when the theory was a narrow tire like 1.8 or 1.9 rolls better, is lighter and cuts through mud better, gives more mud clearance. I bought an older FS bike years ago with huge 2.2 or something tires on it felt like I was driving a tractor - very slow but stable.

    What would be recommended tire size and shape for XC riding on varied texas terrain from Warda to mud, sand, etc.?

    I had a set of those snoother center mtb tires with side lugs for traction years ago. Seemed like a good idea but I flatted like a million times but granted they were clearanced Performance tires which were knockoffs of michelins.....I really don't want to go to a tractor type tire I'm sure it works for many of you but I'd like a faster riding tire to make up for my lack speed...grin.

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    Semislicks suck. Just no way around it. Microknobbies instead. You get traction plus smooth rolling for hardpack.

    For mud, the logic still calls for narrower to cut through, but logic also calls for not riding in that crap in the first place. So those tires have also fallen by the wayside and are mostly only used by few racers who do races that don't cancel for sloppy conditions, and there are few.

    Wider with lower pressure is the trend these days. There is only so much benefit from that on smooth hardpack, though. The benefit of wide and soft is in the rough where the tire deforms instead of rebounds off of roots and rocks. There is also a great deal of benefit for loose sand, where cutting into it is bad for traction but surface area can prevent it. A fat bike is ideal for sand, but for a regular mtb, a fatter front will help prevent the front end from washing out in sand. North of Houston, most sand packs well but if it's disturbed it is super loose. Hence my tire choice.

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    Good points. +1 about not riding in mud, try hard to avoid it, bad for trails as well as clogging your bike. I have just got a set of stan's wheels and have not tried them yet so your input with regards to lower pressure and tubeless I have read a bit about but not experienced. I'm still buying rest of gear for that bike build. I'll have to reverse look this thread and see what tire you are running. And holy crap, all tires have gotten expensive. Seems a bit of a rip-off when you can get a small car tire that has like 50 times more rubber in it and steel belts for $80 and some of these tires are not far from that price. I'm obviously a retro-grouch leaning type...never mind the complaining.
    I know there is a bit of sand in memorial and a good chunk up at Huntsville.

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    I've been using Schwalbe Rocket Rons for all Texas use the last couple of years. Run tubeless on my 29'ers I can run them at 25psi for good traction and good ride. They roll well and have plenty of gription for me. I subscribe to the belief that tires are a personal call, just pick something and get used to its characteristics. (BTW the RR's are amongst the lightest 29'er tires on the market in the 2.25 width which has just the right volume I think.)

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    I saw a deal on these, the knobs are a bit deep but they look effective. I'm used to skinnier tire btw.

    WTB ExiWolf 1.95" Race Tire

    a buddy who rides a lot recommended also the WTB Nano which looked good,

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    An old friend (literally but hes in better shape than many 20 yr olds) said the 1.95" tire I was looking at b/c it was so cheap was too skinny for loose soil / sand we get in some sections around here so I will look at something a big bigger as y'all have been recommending. Thanks for all the suggestions on the thread some good stuff there but many over $50 was hoping to find some bargains...

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    I just put the new 2012 29er Nobby Nic Evo 2.35 on the front with the crossmark on the rear and that combo seems to rock.

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    I tried different tires but one I got the Specialized Captain Control, I have stopped wanting.
    These are absolutely great, they get even better with tubeless setup.

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    MAXXIS IKON....nuff said

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    i just picked up MAXXIS Ardent and Crossmark. I wnated IKON but that price tag, jeez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amgine View Post
    I wnated IKON but that price tag, jeez.
    eBay is your friend...

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    I'll give a mention of two another tires I really like:

    Schwalbe Hans Dampf

    Specialized Butcher

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    Quote Originally Posted by schristie11 View Post
    I'll give a mention of two another tires I really like:

    Schwalbe Hans Dampf

    Specialized Butcher
    holy crap!

    don't you think thats a LOT of tire overkill for the Houston area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL 9000 View Post
    don't you think thats a LOT of tire overkill for the Houston area?

    It depends on the terrain and riding speeds, that wasn't specified.
    If your never on the rocks and you're ok with slow cornering then you can get away with a lot less tire.
    I ride some rough trails that demand these kind of tires at locations all over south Texas, I'd rather be over prepared.
    I've never found a penalty for using big noby tires when going off road.

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    Time to order new tires! Originally decided on a Hans Dampf Trailstar for the front and Slant Six DTC/UST for the rear, but sticker shock on the Hans made me reconsider. I don't mind paying for nice tires, but $90+/tire is a little much for something I'll probably shred in six months. After talking with Blaine at West End, I went with a Conti Mountain King 2.4 UST front and X King 2.4 UST rear. Will report on performance after I get some miles on them. I feel like I'm cheating on the wife (I don't have/want) by going with Conti over Schwalbe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by schristie11 View Post
    I'll give a mention of two another tires I really like:
    Schwalbe Hans Dampf
    Specialized Butcher
    Don't know about the Butcher, but Hans kills it. Only tire I've used thus far that can dominate chunky, sharp DH, buff single track, rail berms and g outs, with decent road manners for riding to the ride, and comes in less than 850g.


    Quote Originally Posted by HAL 9000 View Post
    holy crap!
    don't you think thats a LOT of tire overkill for the Houston area?
    No. Unless you're a skin suit racerboi who only cares about top speed at Lake Lake...

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    theres your mistake, buying tires at the LBS, pay about 50 bucks for my Nobby Nics online (better tire for mostof TX than the Hans Dampf, esp Houston)

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    theres your mistake, buying tires at the LBS, pay about 50 bucks for my Nobby Nics online (better tire for mostof TX than the Hans Dampf, esp Houston)
    Scored the last set of Hans online for $50 each, but couldnt find any deals online for less than $70-something on amazon for Pacestar, and Trailstar was full retail. The Continentals came in much cheaper (with black chili compound and UST 330 tpi sidewalls).

    I prefer Nic over Hans for Houston/SE TX area also, but these are going on my bigger travel bike. When you get into steep stuff (Austin included), the Hans is much better than Nic, at least on the front. For Houston only a Nic or Ron front and Ralph rear with snakeskin would be killer.
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    yeah, contis are a bit cheaper, black chili is really good rubber, problem has been weight up until now since they only offered the UST version or standard...will be trying the new TLR versions once my front NN eats the dust though

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    There are alot of good choices, glad you picked one that fits your budget.


    I live in the SA/Austin area and need all the grip I can get on the rocks, but that being said any of these tires are all excellent choices:
    Nobby Nic
    Conti Kings
    Hans Dampf
    IKON
    Nevegals
    Highroller II

    No, they are not over kill if you actually ride "Off Road".

    I definitely suggest buying online if your LBS is charging more than $50 for any tire.

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    Well this is so cool!
    Jenson USA is selling the Hans Dampf for under $50 each.

    I just used their price match tool to compare with the Treefortbikes price of $37 each and JensonUSA gave me a $23 discount on the price of the tires and they offer free shipping!
    Jenson two tires total with price match and free shipping is: $74.00

    BAM

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    Quote Originally Posted by schristie11 View Post
    Well this is so cool!
    Jenson USA is selling the Hans Dampf for under $50 each.

    I just used their price match tool to compare with the Treefortbikes price of $37 each and JensonUSA gave me a $23 discount on the price of the tires and they offer free shipping!
    Jenson two tires total with price match and free shipping is: $74.00

    BAM
    FYI, huge price and noticeable performance difference between the Performance compound and Pacestar/Trailstar/Enduro compounds with snakeskin sidewalls.

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    those are the performance line of tires (ie budget rubber), not the same as their good/$$ stuff

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    interesting, I didnt know there were multiple formats of the Hans Dampf...
    good to know!

    I did find TreeFort has them on sale:
    62.95 = Hans Dampf 26 x 2.35 Snake Skin - TrailStar Tire

    is that the "right tire".

    Also ebikestop has them at 25% off for $66

    I asked JensonUSA to price match and they approved it, reducing the price for two tires by $48.
    Two Tires was $180.00 - Now $132.00 with price match.
    That's still a pricy tire imho but sometimes you gotta pay to play!

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    is there a comfort penalty or any other "con" to having the reinforced sidewalls like the snakeskin?

    Sorry for thread hijacking

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    Quote Originally Posted by schristie11 View Post
    is there a comfort penalty or any other "con" to having the reinforced sidewalls like the snakeskin?
    Not that I've noticed. I have a Hans Performance, Hans Pacestar, 2.4 Nic UST, 2.4 Ron Evo, and 2.4 Fred. The Ron and Fred have more cushion than the others, but the sidewall is much thinner so I'm careful about line choice on those. IMO, the comfort difference is negligible compared to the strength gains. I don't want to worry about sidewalls when plowing through rock gardens.

    In the Houston area sidewalls are safer than Austin and SA, so carcass flexibility, ride improvements, and lighter weight outweigh the additional durability for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B Gillespie View Post

    No. Unless you're a skin suit racerboi who only cares about top speed at Lake Lake...
    Ha!

    NOOBS are phunny...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL 9000 View Post
    Ha!

    NOOBS are phunny...
    My screen name is just as old as yours, but I have less worthless "29ers are the best bike ever" posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL 9000 View Post
    eBay is your friend...

    Maxxis Ikon 29x2.20" Tire | eBay
    got through amazon prime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schristie11 View Post
    interesting, I didnt know there were multiple formats of the Hans Dampf...
    good to know!

    I did find TreeFort has them on sale:
    62.95 = Hans Dampf 26 x 2.35 Snake Skin - TrailStar Tire

    is that the "right tire".

    Also ebikestop has them at 25% off for $66

    I asked JensonUSA to price match and they approved it, reducing the price for two tires by $48.
    Two Tires was $180.00 - Now $132.00 with price match.
    That's still a pricy tire imho but sometimes you gotta pay to play!
    i buy my nobby nics (have them on my 26" and 29") on ebay, 50-55 bucks for the last 3 recently

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    I've been using a Maxxis Ignitor on the front and a Larsen TT on the rear. I like the tires quite a bit so far, although after reading through this thread I'm kinda interested in the Schwalbes

    Does anyone have any idea how these compare to a Nobby Nic/Racing Ralph?

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