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    Sounds like you fellers are getting tired of winning. SO much winning!

    Sorry, I meant to say whining.

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    Biggly winning.
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    You Wednesday guys are getting a little rowdy, and it's only Tuesday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hdparrish View Post
    You Wednesday guys are getting a little rowdy, and it's only Tuesday.
    Calmer than you are dude.

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    Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.

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    Bunch of fig eaters....
    Trying to find reverse on a soviet tank....

    That's not a worthy adversary.
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    Wednesday evening ride ...

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    so it snowed here today...

    Today is WEDNESDAY!-snow-drift.jpg

    got another 6-8 since that pic for a total near 30". only place i could ride was in the street. I got a couple funny looks on my grocery run but i was moving faster and better than most of the cars on the street.
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    That's an awesome picture, OneSpeed. Are you anywhere near Utica, NY? Have a friend there who said it dumped 30 inches yesterday. Gotta love that lake effect.

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    Not fair, you guys got more snow in one storm than we got all season!
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    well, after getting teased in February by weather in the 50's and 60's! for a week, I kind of got spring fever. The trails dried out and it hit it pretty hard a couple times, i was ready for summer.

    Reality check in March. It's not uncommon here to get big storms in March, or even April. everything is good and frozen again and now there's a bunch of snow to melt. Oh well.

    The lake effect more than doubled what it would have been otherwise. Instead of 10-14" we ended up with ~30" so far. It's cool, I like the winter. I'd rather the wind chill be in the single digits than mid summer when the heat index is over 90, that's freaking miserable for me.

    It really makes me want to build a huge ramp and try some stupid stunts. Probably best to save that for foam pits though. Plus i currently have a broken finger from a crash last week so probably a real bad idea.
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    Wednesday v3.93 is ready to hit the trail. got a couple more goodies coming, and it should be nearly sorted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *OneSpeed* View Post
    so it snowed here today...

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    That storm almost ruined my trip! We got out of town just before it hit. On one hand, I'm pretty bummed that I missed some awesome snow. On the other, Ireland was pretty awesome.

    What trail was that pic on? Looks like it was snowblown... or is it a sidewalk lol?
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    umm Ireland!? that sounds freakin sweet! What did you bring me back?? you didn't miss much, except maybe sledding? the snow was too deep to make riding fun. now it's a waiting game till it all melts and the trails dry out.

    yeah, it's a sidewalk. I looked but couldn't find any trails that recently had a snowblower clear a path.
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    matterhorn out for a casual 60+ miles of desert ss ripping...

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    I got close to 100 miles in before I quit. NADAs right into the South DAs where I did pretty much everything but the Bridges. Had a beer and weiner at the Tuesday night ride before taking an extended trip home.

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    im still hurting a bit from my much shorter ride!

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    But Matterhorn was born to be in the mountains. Heck, he's named after a mountain!

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    for sure,theres very few people around here willing to tackle these sorts of rides,i feel sorta sorry he got stuck with me,but ive noticed that very few people ride with matterhorn a second time....i actually enjoy these rides,its good to go out and stretch your limits,even on the days that crack you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    for sure,theres very few people around here willing to tackle these sorts of rides,i feel sorta sorry he got stuck with me,but ive noticed that very few people ride with matterhorn a second time....i actually enjoy these rides,its good to go out and stretch your limits,even on the days that crack you...
    Gotta keep the big rides going so we can nail the A course at the Rim Roller!

    I had an Uncrackable ride yesterday. Just couldn't stop once I hit the singletrack.

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    yeah,i need to hit the hills again,i almost put the 26 tooth ring back on the truck when i was pulling the crank apart to stop that annoying frickin creaking...as usual i needed to eat more...cool ride though...

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    I saw Hampsterspam's ICT on the Surly Blog today. The bike has made it to the major league of bike pics now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman29 View Post
    I saw Hampsterspam's ICT on the Surly Blog today. The bike has made it to the major league of bike pics now.

    And his Krampus, AAAAAAAANNNNNDDD his Karate Monkey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman29 View Post
    I saw Hampsterspam's ICT on the Surly Blog today. The bike has made it to the major league of bike pics now.
    yep,i guess that means im officially cool now!

    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post
    And his Krampus, AAAAAAAANNNNNDDD his Karate Monkey.
    i was gonna say...triple threat!
    and amusingly enough all those pics are already outdated!

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    There's a small often forgotten caveat to being cool in that manner.

    If (and I don't know the exact official number) you have posted your bike too many times within the same forum, there is a deduction for the cool factor.

    But, if in nearly all postings your cages and or bar tape have changed color.... Heck... I don't know.
    Think you have to have a sleeve tattoo and enormous beard to accurately measure the cool faktor but if those colors have changed then there can be a grace period of coolness that may apply. Not sure there's an increase but the deduction of cool can be held off for some period of time.

    Now if you post the same bike and colors and all that changed was adding suspension or a dropper? Well, it's back to deducting cool points.

    There's even an odd ruling about wheel size changes. But it's less about the wheel size and how you address them in your post.

    Anyway...
    Pretty sure Hamster is likely officially cool. In an official manner.

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    well dang,no tattoos or beard,but im pretty sure im not cool...which by the transitive properties of coolness i am cool because im not cool...which of course means im not cool....i am however having fun,which is pretty cool.....

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    It's hard to argue that logic.
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    as long as the wheels keep spinning,im gonna keep on grinning...

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    almost done building up the new cross check...

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    Leaving these here cuz Wednesday.




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    Anyone running a Rohloff on a Weds yet?

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    Loving all the builds guys! I too wish I could have found that sweet sweet blue color! But alas...Here's the black one I just put together over the weekend.

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    Nice build Cannon.
    Subtle color highlights.

    Like the blue rim tape w/ the red housing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Chicken Bones View Post
    Nice build Cannon.
    Subtle color highlights.

    Like the blue rim tape w/ the red housing.

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    Hey thanks man! It was one of the more interesting builds I've done for sure.

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    I feel like each build I do relies on several old ideas. Always the same tape or nips. The usual fall backs of a king headset (in red to match my lack of creativity), 32 spoke wheels, 3 cross etc..
    Nothing new. Or there hasn't been much innovation in a long long time.

    Then I see a build like yours and try to tuck it away for later.
    Maybe more blue.
    Maybe colored housing.

    Thanks for that new perspective.

    My Wednesday went a long way this winter too keeping me perhaps more sane than usual.
    A perfect escape with no driving to get there.
    Lots of night riding, I became partial to dodging snow cats on the ski area after midnight.
    They didn't care about me but I liked to pretend I was a rolling. Ninja.

    But it's on a hook waiting for overnights or something else.
    A quick swap over to the 29+ wheels will help it find its spring legs.

    For now-it's the Straggler that's stolen my attention.
    It's just too easy to go too far.
    Also late at night, it's a peaceful time.

    When will Surly cough up some monkey nuts already?

    It's spring. Mostly anyway.

    Go pedal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matterhorn View Post
    I tried the Tuggnut too but with 29+ couldn't get it to fit in either hole. Been running without and haven't had trouble. I find its best if I don't start super tight. Something about like in your photo seems good really.
    Hey Matterhorn, can you tell me how the weds rides with the 29plus? mainly how it handles with the higher bb. I think i can figure out how it is going to ride with the bigger wheels in most other aspects. Thanks!

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    Crash-
    I wasn't the guy you were asking but as a 29+ Wednesday rider I can say- it's wonderful.
    So much more playful than when I'm running it fat.

    Not too sure why I took the Wednesday off the hook so much last summer vs other amazing bikes, but it was the one I used often. Sure for a bike pack it's perfect, but it's also just so damned sure footed and comfy otherwise.
    I wouldn't say it's super fast but I think Matterhorn might say to otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Chicken Bones View Post
    Crash-
    I wasn't the guy you were asking but as a 29+ Wednesday rider I can say- it's wonderful.
    So much more playful than when I'm running it fat.

    Not too sure why I took the Wednesday off the hook so much last summer vs other amazing bikes, but it was the one I used often. Sure for a bike pack it's perfect, but it's also just so damned sure footed and comfy otherwise.
    I wouldn't say it's super fast but I think Matterhorn might say to otherwise.

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    thanks!

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    A month ago I bought a carbon Santa Cruz Tallboy with 27.5+ tires. It's freakin' amazing. But today I rode my Wednesday to work via Singletrack and the new bike hasn't reduced my love for the Wednesday one bit. It's such a great bike! Now at 1.5 years of ownership and the flame hasn't died at all.

    Through boredom (and beer) the Wednesday made it up on the scale today. Bluto, dropper post, pedals, bottle cage, Garmin mount, dirt and all. 33.40 lbs. Not bad!
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    33 lbs isn't bad? Oh.. It was fully loaded w/ food/water for a trip?
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    ~33lbs with bluto and dropper is pretty decent I figure. I assume you're tubeless JAG?

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    I"m kidding. My Wednesday just always seems bloated, though admittedly I have ample debris hanging off it!
    Carried the Ti SS up the stairs today to the car in prep for some desert time.
    Compared to the Wednesday I've been dragging up all season (w/ F rack, pogies, frame back, spare cinder block), the SS felt down right fragile!
    I think now instead of a tire repair kit, I'll just carry a spare bike on the Wednesday's rack.

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    I wish it was loaded up with food/water for a trip, I need a vacation!

    Yes tubeless. 4.6" Flow/Dunderbeists on 80mm Mulefuts. Could shave a bunch of weight there but simply don't care enough, and the this wheel/tire setup is great year round!
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    Quote Originally Posted by crashedupderby View Post
    Hey Matterhorn, can you tell me how the weds rides with the 29plus? mainly how it handles with the higher bb. I think i can figure out how it is going to ride with the bigger wheels in most other aspects. Thanks!
    Works fine for me. I'm used to riding an ECR so thought I might not like the much higher bb of the WED 29+. No trouble, just rips over everything.

    If I only had 1 wheelset for the WED it would be 27.5 x 4.

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    saw a sweet set of 27.5 hugo/dt swiss wheels at the shop the other day with hodags,pretty light and nice tire profile...looked like a good setup...

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    Speaking of 27.5 fat......tried to ride the white stuff the other day but it was melting at an alarming rate. The weather was broken this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    saw a sweet set of 27.5 hugo/dt swiss wheels at the shop the other day with hodags,pretty light and nice tire profile...looked like a good setup...
    Avoid Hugos like the plague Hamster. The are soffffffft.

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    i think 2 wheelsets for the ICT is sufficient....for now...and i have a set of chris king hubs coming for the krampus anyway...thats gonna be it for the bike budget for a bit!

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    I have a question for you BFAT riders. I have ordered a set of I9 26" wheels but they are currently on backorder. I'm really considering cancelling that order to go with the 27.5" as the majority of my riding is on summer single track.

    Any recommendations on wheelset? Should I just email mikesee and have him lace me a set? Seems like the BFaT size will put me more back to my 29" race bike in terms of size.

    I already have a set of MOBD rims that came with the bike but I don't want to ride them all year because I'm used to custom wheels/hubs and miss the quality.

    Thanks all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by canonshooter View Post
    I have a question for you BFAT riders. I have ordered a set of I9 26" wheels but they are currently on backorder. I'm really considering cancelling that order to go with the 27.5" as the majority of my riding is on summer single track.

    Any recommendations on wheelset? Should I just email mikesee and have him lace me a set? Seems like the BFaT size will put me more back to my 29" race bike in terms of size.

    I already have a set of MOBD rims that came with the bike but I don't want to ride them all year because I'm used to custom wheels/hubs and miss the quality.

    Thanks all!
    I'm running Nextie Black Eagle Rims which are 65mm external/58mm internal width and I am really happy with the profile of the 27.5x3.8 tires with that width of rim. You might be able to get away with a Hugo but they have had mixed reviews in terms of reliability.

    P.S. I put a new Krampus frameset on order today.....SCHA-WING!

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    gonna slap a sus fork on that krampus polka?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    gonna slap a sus fork on that krampus polka?
    More than likely, I still have my Fox 34 that I was running during the era of the Stache

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    i was debating selling the bluto and upgrading the fork on my ICT but i went and scratched one of the stanchions so probably stuck repairing it instead...gonna just try and sand it smooth for now and you know,actually take the time to fiddle with the pressure and settings in an organized fashion...

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    As long as you're talking about suspension-
    Include the Manitou MASTODON (since it's an awesome name) in your thoughts.
    Big Wheel Building: Manitou Mastodon review.

    Pretty sure you could lace two fat rims side by side w/ two fat tires on it. Damned thing looks insane in person. Just mammoth... I mean... Just huge.

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    im pretty sure im not doing anything quit gnarly enough to really want a new fork for the ICT,for the most part the bluto has been fine,i just dont think i ever played with the adjustments enough to really have it dialed in...that said,its still a bit noodly,im betting that mastodon doesnt flex quite as much...

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    i ditch the bluto cos it noodly to me, and got a DNM inverted fork. i am 120kg.1.8m. and i am not a finese rider. i bash them stuff like a freight train.

    Anyway do u think Wednesday is named after Mr. Wednesday of American Gods aka Odin and not Wednesday Adam. cos the fonts on Wednesday remind of some viking type fonts ;p

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    wednesday is just the english form of wodin's day or odin's day....thursday...thor's day....friday...freya's day...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordie View Post
    Mr. Wednesday of American Gods aka Odin ;p
    Nice catch! My inner nerd loves the possible Neil Gaiman connection. Great book.
    Either way, Surly's roots are steeped in Vikingness. The guy who brought you so much of their best engineering (i.e. Krampus, Rabbit Holes, Marges, etc......) is named Thor, FFS!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    wednesday is just the english form of wodin's day or odin's day....thursday...thor's day....friday...freya's day...
    I am learnin' here....!!!
    Fanx Spam!

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    yup,surly country is full of scanda-norwega-hoovians so pretty natural for the occasional norse diety to show up...

    i met travis from surly recently,and indeed his pants were black!

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    Quote Originally Posted by frozenmonkey View Post
    Nice catch! My inner nerd loves the possible Neil Gaiman connection. Great book.
    Either way, Surly's roots are steeped in Vikingness. The guy who brought you so much of their best engineering (i.e. Krampus, Rabbit Holes, Marges, etc......) is named Thor, FFS!!!
    i was thinking and the fonts on weds is so Viking like fonts ;p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordie View Post
    i was thinking and the fonts on weds is so Viking like fonts ;p
    You want more for your inner viking fonts and names, check out Rawland.

    Surly has many influences...Krampus is probably German/ Austrian/Czech in origin. The Wednesday is another nod to the Addams family and the Pugsley... etc.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    yup,surly country is full of scanda-norwega-hoovians so pretty natural for the occasional norse diety to show up...
    Yes. Minnesotaville is full of Norse blood.
    Lol! 'Scandahoovian'. Here I thought my old Swede grandpa made that one up. N'er heard it off the farm. Ha!

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    As long as you're talking about suspension-
    Include the Manitou MASTODON (since it's an awesome name) in your thoughts.
    Big Wheel Building: Manitou Mastodon review.

    Pretty sure you could lace two fat rims side by side w/ two fat tires on it. Damned thing looks insane in person. Just mammoth... I mean... Just huge.

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    Wow, that is wiiide! I hope the crown clears the downtube on the Wednesday/ICT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by frozenmonkey View Post
    Yes. Minnesotaville is full of Norse blood.
    Lol! 'Scandahoovian'. Here I thought my old Swede grandpa made that one up. N'er heard it off the farm. Ha!
    not strangely a lot of those folks end up in alaska....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAGI410 View Post
    Surly Monkey Nuts v3 for the Wednesday will be out soon. Have your local shop put QBP Part number FS5062 on the watch list.


    Anyone have any luck getting these? My LBS says the PN doesn't exist in QBP...

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcclass View Post
    Anyone have any luck getting these? My LBS says the PN doesn't exist in QBP...

    Thanks!
    Weird. It appears like they no longer exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcclass View Post
    Anyone have any luck getting these? My LBS says the PN doesn't exist in QBP...

    Thanks!
    I haven't seen anything yet either. I was riding last Sunday and actually slipped the rear wheel forward on the drive side. In the meantime I am thinking about picking up a pair of tuggnuts and just drilling out the rear hole for 12mm. And hey...At least it will open my post ride brewski's!

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    Today is WEDNESDAY!-guesswhatdayitis.jpg

    Its Wednesday again! Stock complete XL from my wife to me on our 25th Anniversary (she opted for jewelry). Now of course there is rain in the forecast for the next four days.
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    Congrats on the milestone anniversary! You sure picked a good one if you got a bike out of the deal!
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    I wanted to make the weds ss, but, even though I tightened the axle down as tight as possible,the drive side kept walking. So I just went 1x with an 11-40 cassette on it. Now it is right under 33lbs. never been a weight weenie till I got this bike, but now I am.

    Is anyone running the whisky carbon fork? It will drop a full pound over the stock fork. The whisky fork has a 51mm offset, stock fork has 47mm offset, not sure how it will change the handling.
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    XL Wednesday next to a little tree that blew over in a wind storm.

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    Stop asking how much it weighs and just go ride it.

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    crashedupderby,

    misterfusion is using the bikesdirect.com carbon fork. Somewhere on this forum he has pictures of his Wednesday with the fork. It looks great, I think he even put some Surly decals on the fork, if I remember correctly. The bikesdirect.com carbon fat bike fork is $199 versus $499 for the Wiskey fat bike fork.

    Also, if you want to go lighter, you can look at the tire weight. I am riding a Juggernaut 4.0 Pro in the rear and a Juggernaut 4.0 Sport in the front on my Wednesday with a bluto. And on my rigid Wednesday I am running a Juggernaut 4.0 Pro in the Rear and a Juggernaut Pro 4.5 in the front.

    Either of these combination, knock off about 2.5lbs to 3lbs from the standard Nates.

    I found that on Juggernaut 4.0 Pro that I cannot run it in the front with under about 11lbs of pressure without having self steer. However, on the 4.5 Pro or the 4.0 Sport I can run those tires at 7lbs or 8lbs of pressure at my weight (225lbs) and not get self steer. So, I use one of those tires in the front instead of the Pro.

    In any case the the Juggernaut Pro 4.0 is a good light rear tire for the summer.

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    crashedupderby,

    A picture of misterfusion's Wednesday with the carbon bikesdirect.com fork is on page 10 of this forum, near the bottom of that page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman29 View Post
    crashedupderby,

    A picture of misterfusion's Wednesday with the carbon bikesdirect.com fork is on page 10 of this forum, near the bottom of that page.
    thanks sandman, I do have tubeless fasttrak 26x4.0 front and back on it now. dropped an easy 2.5# by doing that.

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    Pretty sure you could remove the stock fork from any Surly, perhaps replace it w/ a 55 gallon drum of motor oil, and you'd save some weight.
    Each time I chop the steerer on a Surly I heft the empty fork and think JAY ZEUSS! It's a lot of lovin.

    Why would a SS set up allow the axle to move more or less than gears? Maybe not so much SS or Gears but how hard you stomp on the pedals?

    My Wednesday is back to 29+ and I'm back to loving it even more.
    The midnight rides of winter are carrying over to the midnight rides of Spring.
    And it's wonderful.

    Tired of riding w/ crowds? Many routes are quiet at 2am.

    Go ride.
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    I'm that bike guy.
    What bars should I get? What tires? Frame? etc...

    Well, I used to be that guy. Now my knowledge is spotty.
    Ask me about boost (or any new BB standard) and you'll have a small nap while I go on too long about how useless the current industry is.

    Anyway, I still get calls and such from old friends about what bike to get.
    Dear old pal asked a few weeks ago.
    Full suspension? Carbon? Etc.
    The industry isn't making too many bad bikes these days so it's not a tough solution to find.

    The real hurdle is trying to nail down which new niche within a niche a rider might want to be part of.
    Road? Gravel? Endurance? Blah blah blah....

    So we talked and I left on a ride.
    In the end I decided that the best bike for (maybe any of us) is the one that makes you want to go ride. Day after day, week after week.
    What makes you want to get up early, stay out late, and just keeping turning the pedals?
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    If you live where I do, and knew what I've been riding, you might go off about trail damage and how this or that isn't ready. You'd be right to protect the wonderful trails, but wrong in the assumption that I've damaged them.

    And the Wednesday don't care.
    Heck, JCBs don't care much either. I've left more than one rut in a trail that I felt bad about over the years.
    A week of sun later and that very same muddy patch is gone along with the rut.
    Go around the mud? Flatten all that pretty new spring grass? Well, that damage remains.

    Long story short- the Wednesday (currently in 29+ form) leaves more shallow tire prints where it's soft. It has ample traction when things are gooey. And enough clearance to toss a cat between the rear stays.

    And on the snow? The endless patches of snow that dot their way down all the quiet empty trails that nobody thinks about these days?
    The Wednesday rolls right over the stuff without too much trouble.

    (for now) The Wednesday really makes me want to be riding. Makes me want to be out.
    Gets me off the couch, out of bed, riding for too far, too long, late for work and fine with that.

    And the Straggler? Well, it's had a similar effect.
    It's the wrong wrong bike for many recent rides, and on those days it's so perfect for what I need.

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    Hey Wednesday riders,

    I was just at REI and picked up a Yakima Dr. Tray. I thought it was rated the same as the Thule T2 Pro XT at 60# per bike and after reading the manual see it's rated at 40#. I am going to weigh my Wednesday with Revelate Tangle Bag on it and am thinking I'm right there at 40#. Anyone using a Dr. Tray to haul their bikes around and any thoughts on the rating? If I am looking at being much over, I may just compromise for the Thule, but really like the features of the Yakima.

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    I have a Tugnut on the drivetrain side that my LBS mech drilled out and ground off the bottom bottle opener to get it to fit. Works great.

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    Anyone running a 100mm Bluto on their Wednesday? I"m interested in running one and am curious what's required for set-up and swapping forks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by homebrewtim View Post
    Anyone running a 100mm Bluto on their Wednesday? I"m interested in running one and am curious what's required for set-up and swapping forks?
    It's a direct swap. Pull your fork out and put the Bluto in. Will slacken your HTA a degree or so. Easy Peasy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canonshooter View Post
    It's a direct swap. Pull your fork out and put the Bluto in. Will slacken your HTA a degree or so. Easy Peasy.
    Thanks Canonshooter. I don't do but the most basic maintenance to my bikes but am wanting to ride the Bluto for summer...I guess I'll have to order one.


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    Swapping a fork could be seen a teeny bit more complicated than that-
    A new fork will need it's steerer cut, the crown race (or base plate or whatever) installed, and a star nut installed.
    But- even if you hadn't known that, it is Easy Peasy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Chicken Bones View Post
    Swapping a fork could be seen a teeny bit more complicated than that-
    A new fork will need it's steerer cut, the crown race (or base plate or whatever) installed, and a star nut installed.
    But- even if you hadn't known that, it is Easy Peasy.

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    Ahh. That's a good point JCB. Sometimes the little things do get forgotten about!
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    Quote Originally Posted by canonshooter View Post
    Ahh. That's a good point JCB. Sometimes the little things do get forgotten about!



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    Once the Bluto is installed though, switching them back and forth requires a couple zip ties and a brake adjustment, in addition to the obvious fork install and headset adjustment. I've gone back and forth a few times, I can do it in 15 minutes or so. Keep in mind that the brake adapter is different front Bluto (post mount) to stock (IS mount) so you'll need one of those as well.
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    Been out with injuries. Think I'm going nuts because a Moloko bar is in my future. I've always been loco but when I return I'll be mo loco!

    Aye aye aye.

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    i do have a pair of jones loops sitting spare if you want to use them until the molokos get in..

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    Quote Originally Posted by canonshooter View Post
    It's a direct swap. Pull your fork out and put the Bluto in. Will slacken your HTA a degree or so. Easy Peasy.
    This used to be true...
    If you have the 2016 (blue) Wenesday, you only need a different crown race ( Cane creek 1.5) to fit the tapered bluto fork. This is because the spec on the 2016 Wednesday had a Cane Creek 40 headset, which uses the same size bearing that works with both your Surly fork and the Bluto.

    If you Have the 2017 Red or Black Wednesday it is a bit more complicated...Meaning you need a new headset. Surly changed the spec on the 2017 and slapped a Cane Creek 10 headset on it. So in order to make the Fork swap a Cane Creek 40 sized ZS44/28.6- EC44/30.0 Is your best bet with the 1.5 Crown Race on the Bluto.
    This is Swell because you can swap in your rigid fork without swapping headsets.

    Hope this makes sense, and I hope it saves all ya'll the headaches i went through.

    Out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpnst7 View Post
    This used to be true...
    If you have the 2016 (blue) Wenesday, you only need a different crown race ( Cane creek 1.5) to fit the tapered bluto fork. This is because the spec on the 2016 Wednesday had a Cane Creek 40 headset, which uses the same size bearing that works with both your Surly fork and the Bluto.

    If you Have the 2017 Red or Black Wednesday it is a bit more complicated...Meaning you need a new headset. Surly changed the spec on the 2017 and slapped a Cane Creek 10 headset on it. So in order to make the Fork swap a Cane Creek 40 sized ZS44/28.6- EC44/30.0 Is your best bet with the 1.5 Crown Race on the Bluto.
    This is Swell because you can swap in your rigid fork without swapping headsets.

    Hope this makes sense, and I hope it saves all ya'll the headaches i went through.

    Out!
    My 2016 Blue Wednesday has a Cane Creek 10 headset. I used a Cane Creek 40 1-1/2 fork crown to install a Bluto fork, no problem. Cane Creek says the 10, 40, and 110 series are all cross-compatible. As long as the 2017 Wednesday uses a Cane Creek EC44 lower headset, it should be the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjbiker View Post
    My 2016 Blue Wednesday has a Cane Creek 10 headset. I used a Cane Creek 40 1-1/2 fork crown to install a Bluto fork, no problem. Cane Creek says the 10, 40, and 110 series are all cross-compatible. As long as the 2017 Wednesday uses a Cane Creek EC44 lower headset, it should be the same.
    Right on! Thanks for clearing that up. So the spec change from Surly was only on the lower headset. The 2017 does not have the lower EC44, and here is the problem. Without the EC44 Lower headset the smaller bearing doesn't clear the taper on the Bluto steer tube. Checked this with Andy and John at Surly.

    Out!

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    I blame, or maybe thank, H-spam for this one. Did some fiddling and figured out I can get super comfy on the WED! Bikepacking here we come!

    This also sets in motion a major change- The ECR is going! WED 29+ SS, and 26x4.5ish geared will be my mountain bikes. Cross Check SS to built as well. Need something new and different for a few reasons.

    No question H-spam gets the credit for pushing my CC decision. I want to join all the reindeer games!
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    yer gonna need an aerodynamic beard cozy for the road rides!

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    My second Wednesday built.


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    Playing catch-up...anybody running a Mastadon 100mm fork on their Wednesday?

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    33.4?!?!? I weighed mine at 48.5# not long ago...where'd you save 6-7#?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BojanMikic View Post


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    Went to LBS with my wife today and they sized her up for an XS Wednesday based upon specs of a different bike in stock (15.5 Trek Cali). She is under 5'4" and inseam around 28.5" likely. I personally sized up to a L for mine so I am a little nervous about it being small on her. However, she is convinced it's going to fit based upon the comparable ETT/SO/reach numbers of the bike she was on. Please allay my bike sizing anxiety. Thanks.

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