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    6 foot 6 here on a xl

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    My daily commute on my Troll shod with 2.35 schwalbe big apples:
    Surly Troll Commute ft Mr Speedy Brompton & the Putney Bridge walk - YouTube
    (shot of bike in the last 10secs of the video)

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    Re: Surly Troll

    Quote Originally Posted by big_papa_nuts View Post
    I'm trying to order straight from QBP, who I have been a customer of for over ten years.


    I love the company and the product but if I can't sell or purchase their stuff it's worthless to me. No point to be promoting something I can't buy or sell.

    And I don't think they are doing it to protect their image, I think they are bummed that their bikes didn't sell very well, and thus went on super clearance prompting IBDs to stop buying because they couldn't compete.

    And don't think Surly was ever was shy about being owned by a HUGE corporation. Them "selling their soul" would be like Mountain Dew selling their soul.
    This place needs an enema.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agwan View Post
    I like that user Ultraspontane went and Neg Repped a post of mine in this thread from December of 2013.

    because that's how you show the world you mean business. you give a meaningless negative point to someone on a bicycle forum.

    I am in awe of his composure. much man, very intimidated.

    He directed me to "shut up" Which means clearly, he desires I do the opposite.
    Whining about it should help.

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    It annoys you. which is the intended purpose of the whining. So, I win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraspontane View Post
    This place needs an enema.

    Meaning what?

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    Nevermind. I have already asked the question on previous page

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    Single Track Machine

    I had an '05 1x1 that I rode for 2.5 years, before cracking the frame on the Fourth of July. Very sad day, but it opened up the option to frame shop. I seriously considered the Soma B-Side but couldn't pull myself away from the Troll.

    The Troll inherited all of my 1x1's components including a new Velocity Blunt 35 650b wheel set that I had only recently put on the 1x1. 650b is a lot of fun. It feels faster once once the momentum is up, I've noticed easier time clearing obstacles. It does feel a bit heavier than my old 26er wheelset, even though I opted to go tubeless. The 2.4 Geax Goma up front is awesome. I'm not as impressed with the 2.25 Ardent on the rear, it tends to wash out easily when cornering.

    Surly Troll-20140801_120154.jpg

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    Surly Troll

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin_Federline View Post
    6 foot 6 here on a xl
    If you don't mind,what are your inseam and wingspan?

    Thanks

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    Surly Troll-small-9532.jpg
    My Troll when I was testing a BMX track nearby. It's a little bit dirty, because I also attended with it in a 20km XCM race earlier and hadn't time to wash it.
    I will not go on a race with again. I don't know what was the reason, but the bike is really scary when bombing 40km/h down on a single track. Anyway, I didn't build it for racing

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    Few pics of my first Troll build

    Some new bits...

    Surly Troll-troll001.jpg

    Some old bits (cleaned)...

    Surly Troll-troll002.jpg

    Some wheels...

    Surly Troll-troll003.jpg

    Some tools...

    Surly Troll-troll004.jpg

    A frame...

    Surly Troll-troll005.jpg

    A fork...

    Surly Troll-troll006.jpg

    Half way...

    Surly Troll-troll008.jpg

    All done...

    Surly Troll-troll011.jpg

    Surly Troll-troll012.jpg

    Surly Troll-troll014.jpg

    Surly Troll-troll013.jpg

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    Very nice, it's good to see someone using rim brakes.

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    Surly Troll

    rmwesley: that's a very nice shop. The bike's not too shabby either.

    What size are those Kojaks and how do you like them?


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    Thanks for the kind words regarding the workshop. Having bad OCD is both a blessing and a curse. If I had known you were going to look too closely I would have taken the time to tidy up

    The Kojaks are 26x2.00 and I've got them at 60psi. Only used on tarmac so far. Setting out in the wet gave me some feeling I was taking a knife to a gunfight but I was proved wrong...absolutely no issues...good grip, very fast and comfortable.

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    thinking of trading this for a CX, let me know if anyone is interested

    Troll med frame
    Fsa orbit mx headset
    Deore crank
    Welgo sealed pedals
    Hope hubs
    Mavic 819 rims
    Couple tire choices
    Ergon cork grips
    Bb7s with good housing and cables
    Surly 36t gear
    Sram x5 shifter
    Sram x7 derailleur
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Surly Troll-troller.jpg  

    Last edited by L4NE4; 09-07-2014 at 02:42 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L4NE4 View Post
    thinking of trading this for a CX, let me know if anyone is interested

    Troll med frame
    Fsa orbit mx headset
    Deore crank
    Welgo sealed pedals
    Hope hubs
    Mavic 819 rims
    Couple tire choices
    Ergon cork grips
    Bb7s with good housing and cables
    Surly 36t gear
    Sram x5 shifter
    Sram x7 derailleur
    another pictureSurly Troll-10173817_766320920074186_3394010950715672472_n.jpg
    "Never mistake motion for action."

    "If I can bicycle, I bicycle."

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    Has anyone tried 29er suspension fork on Troll?
    I would like little slacker head angle when running it on 650B tyres than with Troll fork. 29er suspension forks are also cheaper than 650B forks.

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    I've used an Ogre, Salsa Fargo V2 and Enabler rigid forks with 650b wheels with great results. I prefer the way the 29er forks feel over the stock fork actually, particularly on technical decents when out in the mountains. I'm not sure about a suspension fork though, maybe a 29er fork with 80mm of travel. How does the A-C measurement compare between say a 80mm 29er fork and a 100mm 650 fork?

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    Thinking of getting this but I'm hesitating due to the sizing. I'm a small guy (a bit over 5'2 and have approximately 26" inseam).

    Based on the sizing in Surly's website, the standover for XS (14") would be 28.2. In the standover measurement perspective, I will not have clearance. However, I saw some pictures here that shows the middle top tube is a bit lower than 26" wheels. Anyone with the same setup confirm?

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    Hi Mtbr.com, I registered just for this. Nice to meet you. Maybe I'm in the wrong place (a mountain bike site?).

    I'm relatively new to bikes but I'm pretty hardcore. I ride my bike everywhere in Seattle, and I'm a good, fast, safe rider, with a heavy bombproof well-loved touring bike (a repaired, repainted & reborn Rivendell Bleriot). It handles everything, from speeding along at 25 MPH with cars on arterials to crawling over curbs to take dirty shortcuts with cargo, it's a valiant steed but I feel like I'm too hard on it for what it is.

    There are a lot of improvements I'd like to make (upgrading from sidepull brakes to canti or disc brakes, and I need new wheels because these are starting to crack in a few places), and money isn't much of a problem (software developers are overpaid), but I'm wary about investing more into this one because I'd like to try wider tires and this frame can't handle it. I'm at 1.5" wide (~38mm) which is about the max I can do with fenders on a Bleriot.

    I've been eyeing the Troll, as it looks so versatile. I could try 2"+ tires (who knows, I might prefer and return to 38mm), canti, disc, fat tires, racks, fenders, it's even Rohloff-friendly in case I take any crazy pills. It seems like it might be the last frame I would ever need to buy.

    But I haven't seen anyone build up a troll the way I like. Maybe MTB frames just aren't right for that, I don't know, I don't understand bike geometry all that well. I only know my Bleriot, which I love. I just want my Bleriot to have wider tires and support more junk (canti, disc) so I can experiment, and it sounds like the Troll is exactly that. Except it's a mountain bike frame and people talk a lot about off-roading with it, and I just want a practical all-city-terrain bike.

    So tell me:

    Have you seen any Troll built up as if it were a Rivendell -- dynamo hub & lights, fenders, racks, wider city tires (e.g. Schwalbe Big Ben), classic saddle / handlebars / stem / seatpost, touring drivetrain? Like a Troll as if its owner wanted something halfway between a Dutch city bike and French touring bike?

    What if I got the Troll frameset and an Atlantis build kit?

    Am I stupid?

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    That would be far from stupid and would be a great bike for a super rugged, practical bike. The troll will be less snappy than your Riv but will carry you and all of your things accross the city as well as anything out there. Plus you can take it off road if you get the itch and not worry about if your bike can handle it.

    I am currently thinking of selling a few frames I have laying around to fund a troll frameset to make a bike much like you describe.

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    A Troll build up with fenders, Big Bens, dynamo hub, Brooks Saddle and Albatross Bars makes a lot of sense. Depending on sizing, stem and bars, you should have problem obtaining a comfortable position. Go for it.
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    The Atlantis uses a different type of stem than the Troll. So the one that comes in the Atlantis build-kit won't work on a Troll.

    Also, Troll geometry is based on mountain handlebars, not road drops. Grant's bike sizing advice may lead you astray. Pay attention to the effective top tube length.

    Other than that, your concept sounds really cool.
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    You could also look at the long haul trucker or disc trucker for your idea if the sizing works better.

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    Largest 700C tires that fit into the Troll frame

    Hi All,
    just wondering what the largest tire on a 700C rim I could get into a troll frame.
    Back of the envelope calculations suggest around 700x35, does this sound right?
    Anyone got any real world experience with this one?

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