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    "... Say you coming and took you for a spin like a stolen, rusty cruiser, boy. Yeah, I'm talkin 'bout a HARSH ride. "

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    anyone have a 10 speed troll with thumbies like these? microSHIFT Thumb Shifters 10 Speed | Merlin Cycles

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    The idea of a heavy bruiser of a bike like a Troll having itty-bitty little shifters like that is funny to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iphilrive View Post
    anyone have a 10 speed troll with thumbies like these? microSHIFT Thumb Shifters 10 Speed | Merlin Cycles
    I have a 9-speed Troll with the 9-speed MicroSHIFT thumbies. Great shifters for touring/utility purposes.

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    Gang, I'm pretty naive about touring. What's the benefit of thumb shifters? I used to think they were The $hit back in the early nineties, but the advent of good triggers shifters left them seeming obsolete. I'm running my Troll SS, but once I start dragging my child around behind it I will probably run a 1x10 set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcitizen1 View Post
    Gang, I'm pretty naive about touring. What's the benefit of thumb shifters? I used to think they were The $hit back in the early nineties, but the advent of good triggers shifters left them seeming obsolete. I'm running my Troll SS, but once I start dragging my child around behind it I will probably run a 1x10 set up.
    Rugged/simple is one, not a lot to break. People like to move configurations around too so it's easy to take bar-end shifters from drops and move them to Thumbies perches for flat bars.

    Depending on which ones you get, some of them have friction shift option too which can be handy when swapping mixed and matched wheels/cassettes around or if on a long haul if you don't have patience in keeping the cables tidy for indexing to work well.

    That's about it really.

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    I have to think that a big part of the motivation to make the switch to thumb shifters was price. Those Microshift things are like a quater the price of the Deore shifters they replace. IMO thumb shifters are less then ideal for use on H-bars because they block a couple of my favorite hand positions. But other then that I think thumb shifters are awesome. I actually really wish someone would make some to mount under the bar. Like these; The Velo ORANGE Blog: Winnifred's Funky Cockpit

    In other news, if and when I sell my cross bike I will be buying a Troll.

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    The Microshift thumb shifters are more than double the price of the Deore 610 shifters at Merlin Cycles. It's not about price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    The Microshift thumb shifters are more than double the price of the Deore 610 shifters at Merlin Cycles. It's not about price.
    Your right. I didn't realize they were using the nice ones, I just thought they cheaped out like they did on the LHT. Well one things for certain is that they didn't do it for mass market appeal. 26", rigid, "goofy" bars, thumb shifters AND purple. They are making a play for the niche market with this one. Good work . I'm actually considering the complete the closer I look. But I was hoping to clean out the parts bin.

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    Ohhhh, the pain of waiting. Apparently too late on ordering a black 2013 Troll in size 20 inch. Oh well, starting to amass parts and clean up the donor bike. Yeah!
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    i'm waiting on a Purple frame and have been told EDD of 12th December.

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    Black 16" frame and the store told me they would get a frame with 2 weeks delivery time.

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    Commuter Build...comments welcome

    Troll commuter/trailer puller/camper/rails to trails build is as follows:
    2014 Troll (20") - eta ? (maybe mid-December)
    FSA Orbit DL silver headset or approved equal
    Thompson stem (donor)
    Surly Open bar (0 rise) on order
    Ergon grips need to purchase
    Thompson post (donor)
    WTB saddle (donor)
    XT cranks (donor)
    XT Octalink BB (donor, unless spindle length is wrong)
    Surly 32t stainless ring (on order)
    BBG Bashguard (need to order)
    Deore 11-34t cassette or approved equal
    Deore rear mech. (parts bin)
    XT rear shifter (donor)
    Sram 9 spd chain or should one pursue a Wipperman teflon chain for PNW weather?
    Avid BB7 brakes and levers 160mm rotors (donor)
    Mavic x317 with Hayes Superlight 32h hubs (donor)
    Vittoria Randonneur Cross 26x1.75" (new in basement)

    Comment away or launch flamming cabbage cannonballs!

    Edit: Do the Trolls come with Monkey Nutz?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Foot View Post
    Troll commuter/trailer puller/camper/rails to trails build is as follows:
    2014 Troll (20") - eta ? (maybe mid-December)
    FSA Orbit DL silver headset or approved equal
    Thompson stem (donor)
    Surly Open bar (0 rise) on order
    Ergon grips need to purchase
    Thompson post (donor)
    WTB saddle (donor)
    XT cranks (donor)
    XT Octalink BB (donor, unless spindle length is wrong)
    Surly 32t stainless ring (on order)
    BBG Bashguard (need to order)
    Deore 11-34t cassette or approved equal
    Deore rear mech. (parts bin)
    XT rear shifter (donor)
    Sram 9 spd chain or should one pursue a Wipperman teflon chain for PNW weather?
    Avid BB7 brakes and levers 160mm rotors (donor)
    Mavic x317 with Hayes Superlight 32h hubs (donor)
    Vittoria Randonneur Cross 26x1.75" (new in basement)

    Comment away or launch flamming cabbage cannonballs!

    Edit: Do the Trolls come with Monkey Nutz?

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    you should get the other open bar with the rise! unless you wanna buy a pair that are "used"

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    I have also got some plans about my Troll's setup. Frame (Black Troll 16") should be coming in couple weeks and everything else is already in shopping carts just ready to be ordered

    Here's the list:
    Thomson Elite seatpost and stem ( silver )
    Ritchey carbon handlebar
    Shimano XT shifters, brakes, cassette
    Sramin X9 GXP cranks and absoluteblack 32t chainring
    Hope BB and adapter for GXP
    Race face lock-on grips
    Selle Italia Man Gel Flow saddle
    Shimano XT M785 pedals
    ZTR Arch EX rims (650B), silver DT Swiss revolution spokes, Hope silver hubs (2014 model)
    Continental Race King Protection tires

    Colours are in black if there is no silver option.

    What you think? Should this setup work well with a bike for the next 30 years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Foot View Post
    Troll commuter/trailer puller/camper/rails to trails build is as follows:

    Surly 32t stainless ring (on order)

    Deore 11-34t cassette or approved equal
    Note that smaller than 38T Surly rings are too thick for 9 speed, so your combo probably won't work too well unless you can surface grind the ring thinner...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingsqueak View Post
    Rugged/simple is one, not a lot to break. People like to move configurations around too so it's easy to take bar-end shifters from drops and move them to Thumbies perches for flat bars.

    Depending on which ones you get, some of them have friction shift option too which can be handy when swapping mixed and matched wheels/cassettes around or if on a long haul if you don't have patience in keeping the cables tidy for indexing to work well.

    That's about it really.
    Hey, thanks, I can see the logic to it all. These are things I've even thought of, in part because my bike is run single speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Foot View Post
    Ohhhh, the pain of waiting. Apparently too late on ordering a black 2013 Troll in size 20 inch. Oh well, starting to amass parts and clean up the donor bike. Yeah!
    Sorry, I got that last 20in, ha ha.

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    oh well I secretly wanted the 2014.

    Oh goodness my Guiness! Thanks for the heads up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinPhotographer View Post
    What you think? Should this setup work well with a bike for the next 30 years?
    Sounds like a bomber build. Sounds as if it is set up xc-ish. Post pics when done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Foot View Post
    Sounds like a bomber build. Sounds as if it is set up xc-ish. Post pics when done.
    Of course. It could take couple months

    My target weight is under 10kg ( ~22lbs ). It will be a close call, but will see

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    New version of the troll...


    Flipped my Open Bars, added Mavic wheels with Kenda Dred Tread in 1.8" width. Feels lighter than I am used to.

    And yes, I know the chain is too slack.

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    nice you get that powdered? ---^

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    Quote Originally Posted by iphilrive View Post
    nice you get that powdered? ---^
    Yes. That was the first order of business when the frame came in! Color is Ford Blue, which my Grandpa's Ford tractor was the inspiration.

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    slowly but its coming!

    this little troll just got cooler! Surly Troll-image.jpgSurly Troll-image-1.jpg

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