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    I'm finding that gif a lot more satisfying then I probably should...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agwan View Post
    I'm finding that gif a lot more satisfying then I probably should...
    I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing

    Extremely close clearances for the Tubus Duo, but with the 203mm adapter, the Avvid BB7's clear everything delightfully. The very small nut for the new fender strut location has barely a hair's worth of clearance, but doesn't touch, and I didn't need to use my spacers anymore. (and I removed the little plastic "break-away" tabs on the fender struts)




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    Man, how's that 2.7 Nevegal up front??

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcitizen1 View Post
    Man, how's that 2.7 Nevegal up front??
    It's fine. I especially like it for those times when I'm traveling loaded and I know I'm going to be riding on some fairly rocky, rooty trails. Feels confident. I don't care that it's heavy. Even though I only went from a 2.5 to a 2.7, the cushion and feel is quite a bit different. The 2.7 makes the Troll feel a lot like the fat bikes I have ridden.

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    I had a 2.35 a couple of years back, and the thing felt like a beast. Now I'm running 2.4 ardents on my Rigid on-one 456 for winter biking, and they are pretty good, considering, but would be a whole lot better tubeless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agwan View Post
    Why can't there be a NON suspension corrected Surly MTB? I was told they don't think they'd sell, but given how few trolls I see with suspension forks, and how many Cross Checks I've seen on the trail, dedicated rigid bikes are clearly still in demand.

    They got back to me and told me they dream of one day doing, at the very least a special run exactly like that. like the old 1x1, but updated.

    I can't be the only one who drools at the idea of a troll or 1x1 without suspension correction, right?


    Agwan,

    You are not alone.

    Like the old 1x1, but updated. Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinymouse View Post


    Agwan,

    You are not alone.

    Like the old 1x1, but updated. Yes.
    Will the older 1x1's ever be collector's items? What would it need to be updated? A derailleur hanger and rack eyelets?

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    kill the canti mounts and maybe a bit more to the drop out. all I'd really want. removable derailleur hanger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agwan View Post
    kill the canti mounts and maybe a bit more to the drop out. all I'd really want. removable derailleur hanger?
    Well, their anniversary model in 2009 (1x1=11) was disc only and you could use one of those chain-tensioner/derailleur-hangers in a pinch if you wanted to. Just a thought, but I hear you though.

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    yeah, that is a gorgeous bike. I can still see the suspension correction in that fork.

    Perfect world.

    problem is, If I just had a custom built it would be some swoopy monstercross on slicks from Black Cat or Retrotec, not this.

    I just want this because I know it would ride amazing, look great and be dirt cheap.

    someday, someone will make something like this. when that happens I'll probably stockpile a couple frames.

    Till then, I think Stragglers and Cross checks will fill the void of suspension geometry free everybikes quite well. And for the less vain Surly has 5 rigid framesets that still work fine. and that doesn't even count the fatbikes.

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    Back to talking Trolls for a minute, I'll have owned mine 2 years this month, it's been built a number of different ways and I can still come back to this thread and be inspired. Brokebike, the only thing I would change would be a 2.5" Nevegal out back. Gritter, we need a pic with the trailer hooked up.

    I get excited thinking about the next build...

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    Saddle Up - I know you have a LHT as well. Is the riding position more upright on the LHT or Troll?

    I'm running 2.5 Nev up front right now (on a 1x1 fork). When it goes, I'm looking forward to either the 2.7 Nev or 2.75 DW.

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    LHT is much more upright, doesn't get any more comfortable than a LHT.

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    Frame fit and how you cut the steerer tube will make the most difference there. Also the bars you choose. You can size a Troll to fit like a Dutch bike if you wanted to, unless you require the largest frame size to start with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingsqueak View Post
    Frame fit and how you cut the steerer tube will make the most difference there. Also the bars you choose. You can size a Troll to fit like a Dutch bike if you wanted to, unless you require the largest frame size to start with.
    This is kinda how I have mine. I had a 1x1 that was 18" and it always seemed small, and I foolishly cut the steer tube too short. So when I decided that I wanted a bike that fit better for commuting I opted for the 20" troll for the adaptability. It's quite a bit bigger than my old 1x1, but I'm pretty comfortable on it with a 90mm stem,- would be even better with a 50mm. I'm quite upright on it and it makes my 30min commute on crappy roads quite comfortable, without feeling too sluggish. Thinking I'd like to get some surly bars to bring myself that much more upright. My neck hates being bent over...

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    As you can see from my photos, my Troll is pretty darn upright. I also own a LHT and I have my Troll set up to be more upright than my LHT, actually. All depends on your cockpit setup.

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    I ride a 16" Troll, it has a reach of 398.6.
    I ride a 52cm LHT, it has a reach of 374.6.

    That puts the handlebar 24mm closer to me on the LHT.

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    My 52cm LHT has rando-style drop bars, so while I have the bars pretty high, and with a 90mm stem, I'm still in a fairly "forward leaning" riding position. More traditional road setups would make it look "upright" in comparison.

    My 18" Troll has the same length stem, but I have some hi-rise Monkey Bars on it with a fairly comfortable sweep, which makes it feel more "upright" than my LHT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gritter View Post
    My Troll was built up as a "Tractor Bike" and it's used to haul most anything, anywhere. I have it geared really low, with huge brakes, for that reason. Sorry about the crappy pics, I should probably snap a few outside, in the sun.





    I don't usually haul the entire ensemble of bags, but that's what it looks like in full-hauler-mode, plus I have the TED Trailer to pull behind all that as well.

    Coming from the single-wheeled B.O.B. Trailer, I LOVE the TED. No more balancing all the trailer weight, making my bike squirly with heavier loads. The TED seems wide, but it's narrower than my handlebars, and saddlebags, and fits wherever I point it.

    (NOTE: The Tubus Duo Racks up front cleared just fine with the 203mm Avid Caliper Adapter - just moves it away enough to clear everything.)

    I also tried the trailer on the Ogre, but the Troll feels "tighter" all around, and I prefer it for hauling heavy loads. It might have something to do with the smaller diameter of the wheels, but it's also the geometry of the frame, making the ride stiffer, but still compliant. I find this configuration superb for my "cargo" bike.
    Nice build! Your bike is looking sharp. I've seen those rims on a couple bikes now and always like the way they look. I Pull my bill trailer with my troll, I have not yet tried pulling it with my Karate Monkey but I bet I would agree with you on the tighter feel of the troll. I also use the surly skewer and not the bill nuts in the special holes above the axle because I like to keep the yoke as low as possible.
    My troll is kind of unique because Surly screwed up and painted an ogre fork purple and shipped my bike with it. So I guess I have a Trollgre. I first noticed because of the position of the brake posts. I got surly to send me the right fork but it turns out that that bike handles better with the 29er version so I am just going to keep it on there. I wonder how many other people have an ogre fork on their Troll? I took the front wheel off my Monkey and threw it in there 69er style and it rode ok. I could still no hands it on the pavement so the geometry didnt get stupid but was definitely feeling slack! I am going to try it on the trail like that one of these days. Surly Troll-image-81-.jpgSurly Troll-image-80-.jpgSurly Troll-photo-4-.jpgSurly Troll-image-80-.jpgSurly Troll-image-82-.jpgSurly Troll-image-81-.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gritter View Post
    Everything except the frame bag is quick-release.

    Gritter, fantastic build and has caused some rack envy. Question on trunk bag attachment, which attachment adapter did you order with your trunk bag? Looks like the Ortlieb. Thanks in advance. I will be ordering the logo evo rack.
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    LDW, try the 29er wheel mounted in the Troll fork, you might like it better than in the Ogre fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Desert Walker View Post
    Nice build! Your bike is looking sharp. I've seen those rims on a couple bikes now and always like the way they look. I Pull my bill trailer with my troll, I have not yet tried pulling it with my Karate Monkey but I bet I would agree with you on the tighter feel of the troll. I also use the surly skewer and not the bill nuts in the special holes above the axle because I like to keep the yoke as low as possible.
    My troll is kind of unique because Surly screwed up and painted an ogre fork purple and shipped my bike with it. So I guess I have a Trollgre. I first noticed because of the position of the brake posts. I got surly to send me the right fork but it turns out that that bike handles better with the 29er version so I am just going to keep it on there. I wonder how many other people have an ogre fork on their Troll? I took the front wheel off my Monkey and threw it in there 69er style and it rode ok. I could still no hands it on the pavement so the geometry didnt get stupid but was definitely feeling slack! I am going to try it on the trail like that one of these days.
    Thanks, Lone Desert Walker. That's the first wheelset I ever laced, and they turned out better than anything I've ever had. The wheels are the first thing most people notice, and everyone asks me where I got them. I love saying, "I built them."

    I'm glad you got that fork thing worked out, but that's crazy that you prefer the "Ogre-Length" fork. I guess you got the right bike and fork for you to begin with! I filled my "trailer-nut" holes with little hex-head plugs (expensive: Universal Cycles -- Problem Solvers Derailleur Hanger Plug) and it's a clean install. I have the trailer nuts for my Ogre though.

    What are you going to do with the proper (453mm A2C) fork now? 468mm seems like quite a big jump in slackening your head angle. Is it a more comfortable reach to the bars, or do you actually like the "chopper" steering feel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Foot View Post
    Gritter, fantastic build and has caused some rack envy. Question on trunk bag attachment, which attachment adapter did you order with your trunk bag? Looks like the Ortlieb. Thanks in advance. I will be ordering the logo evo rack.
    Meat Foot, it is the Ortlieb adapter / locking-plate for the rear Trunk-Bag. It weighs a TON though. It's secure, and the bag attaches to it, almost identically to my motorcycle's GIVI luggage, so that's what sold me. The lock portion must be the culprit to its immense weight. I sometimes wonder what life would be like if I got the RackTime mount - since I have the RackTime racks already, less secure, but lighter and I wouldn't have to keep track of a key. The Ortlieb mounting plate does come with "arms" that allow for lower pannier mounting, so you can use both the trunk and panniers, but my RackTime Racks already have the lower "arms" so I didn't need to use that function. I also think the R.T. plate is cheaper - because it's like forty dollars to buy another Ortlieb plate so I can quickly use the same trunk bag on two different bikes. I hope that helps you decide which one to choose. I love the ORT Plate though, I just wish it was keyed the same as my Ortlieb handlebar (also locking - same lock) bag.

    I chose the ORT Plate, because there are no moving parts on the bag part, and it seems the most heavy-duty of the three.

    The Ortlieb plate also makes the trunk-bag angled up towards the rear, to account for the lock. I don't mind, but I think the R.T. plate makes the bag sit flat on the rack. There is also a third plate, compatible with the R&K mounting system as well, but I know nothing about that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    29er fork staying on this time. I'm thinking it's time for a new colour so it will give me a chance to colour match the fork. The bike feels 'just right" with the longer fork.

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/saddleupbike/10010834284/" title="Surly Troll by SaddleUpBike, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7408/10010834284_d1c7bab8a8_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="Surly Troll"></a>
    Best way to describe how the Troll handles with the longer fork is like it's on rails. "Chopper"?, not a chance. Bonus for me is the Salsa fork is lighter and noticably more compliant.

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    Alright, Trolls,

    Recommend me some bars. Thinking of the FSA Metropolis or Surly Open. Want something to put me back a bit. Surly sounds pretty good, and like steel bars, but the FSA seems like a nicer shape and a bit more compact for city riding. Helps that it's a 31.8 clamp size too. Any other bars you've loved (that are cheap)?

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    I have both and I like the Open bar better because it's slightly wider. Snap up an Open bar while you can, they are discontinued. I'm using a riser version on the LHT that used to be on the Troll and I picked up a non riser just to have in my parts box for if and when I need it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcitizen1 View Post
    Alright, Trolls,

    Recommend me some bars. Thinking of the FSA Metropolis or Surly Open. Want something to put me back a bit. Surly sounds pretty good, and like steel bars, but the FSA seems like a nicer shape and a bit more compact for city riding. Helps that it's a 31.8 clamp size too. Any other bars you've loved (that are cheap)?
    SOMA Clarence is a less expensive version (retails at $45), but 660mm wide and aluminum. Comes in 31.8mm and 25.4mm clamping portion.

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    I changed my Clarence out for the Salsa Bend Bar 2 - the 710mm x 23 Deg x 31.8 Clamp version and it's my all time favorite. The sweep is a little less extreme than the Mary Bar styled options, but a little more expensive than Surly Open Bar.

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    I think you've got the two most popular ones picked out. I was going to suggest Jones 710mm Loop bar, but those aren't cheap.

    Like Gritter, I also switched my bar out for Salsa Bend 2 last summer and love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    Snap up an Open bar while you can, they are discontinued.
    Are they not going to make any bars at all anymore? I see the new complete bikes are spec'd with Jeff Jones Loop H Bars. Or do they only make bars for a couple of years before they discontinue them? The 1x1 Torsion is no more, and what about that Open Bar with the extra bar out front? What was that one called?

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    I wouldn't be surprised if they started to market their own version of the Jones bar. The Open bar with the extra bar out front got cancelled. Open Bars are no longer in production.

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    Keep in mind the Ogre fork has more rake than the Troll fork, so this will offset the change in head angle caused by the length increase.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gritter View Post
    I'm glad you got that fork thing worked out, but that's crazy that you prefer the "Ogre-Length" fork.

    What are you going to do with the proper (453mm A2C) fork now? 468mm seems like quite a big jump in slackening your head angle. Is it a more comfortable reach to the bars, or do you actually like the "chopper" steering feel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if they started to market their own version of the Jones bar. The Open bar with the extra bar out front got cancelled. Open Bars are no longer in production.
    I would not doubt that, either, since with the Big Dummy, they stopped using Xtracycle stuff and went with their own stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phsycle View Post
    I would not doubt that, either, since with the Big Dummy, they stopped using Xtracycle stuff and went with their own stuff.
    I guess they "collaborated" with Jones on their bars: Jeff Jones/Surly collaboration 710mm Loop H-Bar

    "Surly Bikes contacted me several months ago asking about the possibility of getting custom Jones H-Bars for some of their bikes. They wanted a Loop H-bar but with a longer grip section and more overall width. We made samples and I have been riding with them for a few months now and I really do like the extra bar length for long rides. This bar will be standard on a few of the new Surly bikes for 2014 and it will be available directly from Jones Bikes (jonesbikes.com) and dealers soon. Itís 50mm / 2 inches wider compared to the standard 660mm version" (http://www.jonesbikes.com/?option=co...3107&Itemid=58).

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    Thanks for the bar tips.

    Ended up getting this Kona bar on a whim after popping in a shop on lunch. At only 25 bucks it was a good way to test if I really wanna go with this kinda bar. May not be as fancy as the Metropolis, but I dont' think I'll notice the difference. Surly Troll-unnamed.jpeg

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    Lookin' good, jcitizen1! Just try to match the angle of the grip-portion of those bars with the angle of your stem before you pass judgement. I can't tell from the pic, and everybody's different, but the comfort levels really increased for me, when I "lowered" the "rear" of my "alt bars". At first, I set them up horizontal with the ground/level. My wrists didn't like it. Once I angled them down a bit, it was like the most natural position ever.

    Ergon makes some "GC-1" grips for bars like these, because they say their regular ergon grips down't work well with the swept back style. I don't know what grips you have there, but you also might want to try something like the Extra Chunky Grips for your new bars, before you decide if you like them or not.


    "The GC1 is a grip developed for the ergonomic demands of users of bicycles with backwards-swept handlebars, such as those found on city bikes. Using tradition grips on these bikes causes a kink in the wrist. The GC1 corrects this wrist position through its anatomic and ergonomically correct form. Any aches and tension can therefore be reduced. The GC1 is made from German developed, certified toxin free and UV stable rubber compounds. Specially positioned textures and different compound hardness ensure maximum comfort, and a secure grip" (ERGON BIKE ERGONOMICS Link).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gritter View Post
    Lookin' good, jcitizen1! Just try to match the angle of the grip-portion of those bars with the angle of your stem before you pass judgement. I can't tell from the pic, and everybody's different, but the comfort levels really increased for me, when I "lowered" the "rear" of my "alt bars". At first, I set them up horizontal with the ground/level. My wrists didn't like it. Once I angled them down a bit, it was like the most natural position ever.

    Ergon makes some "GC-1" grips for bars like these, because they say their regular ergon grips down't work well with the swept back style. I don't know what grips you have there, but you also might want to try something like the Extra Chunky Grips for your new bars, before you decide if you like them or not.


    "The GC1 is a grip developed for the ergonomic demands of users of bicycles with backwards-swept handlebars, such as those found on city bikes. Using tradition grips on these bikes causes a kink in the wrist. The GC1 corrects this wrist position through its anatomic and ergonomically correct form. Any aches and tension can therefore be reduced. The GC1 is made from German developed, certified toxin free and UV stable rubber compounds. Specially positioned textures and different compound hardness ensure maximum comfort, and a secure grip"
    The GC1's confuse me a bit. The whole premise of this grip is to essentially straighten out the hand position in relation to the back sweep of the bar. But isn't the whole point of getting a bar like that to get your hands at that angle? I feel very comfortable with the sweet of my Salsa Bend, Jones, Mary, etc. bars. I wouldn't want to change my hand angle at all.

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    agree with above, seems to defeat the purpose.

    i use the jones bar on my Ogre and plan to use the Mary on my CC and Troll, i am also a fan of the ESI chunky grips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveJfromtheSwitch View Post
    agree with above, seems to defeat the purpose.

    i use the jones bar on my Ogre and plan to use the Mary on my CC and Troll, i am also a fan of the ESI chunky grips.
    +1 on the ESI grips. I was using the Ergons but like the ESI Super Chunky grips more.
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    @ Gritter -- Thank you for the write up. I was able to save a little $$ and order the Racktime Addit rear rack, so thanks! I also ordered the Ortlieb Ultimate 6 Plus h-bar bag, do you (or anyone else for that matter) think it will play well with a small blinky and the Surly Open Bar, zero rise? I have that bar (well actually my shop has it in my bin while I wait for the frame to come). Also, reading other folks impression of the Ergons, while they are a great grip (and I was sold when I saw their contoury-ness, I know not a word but it fit) the ESI super chunky grips may work better with a more radical sweep like the Marys and Open Bars. Am I overthinking this? I hate do overs and "gee wish I had waited 6 more nanoseconds".

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    Re: Surly Troll

    Quote Originally Posted by jcitizen1 View Post
    Alright, Trolls,

    Recommend me some bars. Thinking of the FSA Metropolis or Surly Open. Want something to put me back a bit. Surly sounds pretty good, and like steel bars, but the FSA seems like a nicer shape and a bit more compact for city riding. Helps that it's a 31.8 clamp size too. Any other bars you've loved (that are cheap)?
    Missfit has a great bar. I use the fubar 2 I believe. They are all great for alt reach mountain bars. Not the lightest in the world but pretty nice stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Foot View Post
    @ Gritter -- Thank you for the write up. I was able to save a little $$ and order the Racktime Addit rear rack, so thanks! I also ordered the Ortlieb Ultimate 6 Plus h-bar bag, do you (or anyone else for that matter) think it will play well with a small blinky and the Surly Open Bar, zero rise? I have that bar (well actually my shop has it in my bin while I wait for the frame to come). Also, reading other folks impression of the Ergons, while they are a great grip (and I was sold when I saw their contoury-ness, I know not a word but it fit) the ESI super chunky grips may work better with a more radical sweep like the Marys and Open Bars. Am I overthinking this? I hate do overs and "gee wish I had waited 6 more nanoseconds".

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    Meat, let me know what you think of that rack. I returned a Tubus Cosmo for the Racktime and it's been holding up great and I love the design.

    I have "alt bars" on my Troll, though not as extreme bends as the Open Bar, but the bag fits nicely between the curves. It should work well with your bars, because it sticks out a few inches. My "Ultimate 5" handlebar bag blocks any light I had on my bars, so I'm still trying to figure out how I'll mount my light to the fork, I guess. If it's just a small blinky, you might get away with attaching it to your bag somehow, I don't know.

    From what I've read, people prefer the chunky grips for swept back bars, and ergons for traditional straighter bars. I plan on picking some up to try out.

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    Yeah, Gritter, tonnes of good info. I'm so far pretty happy with the way this "alt" bar feel. If I put my hands out my hands in front of me they are not horizontal, so it makes sense to have a bar that's not flat, at least for cruisin'. I don't ride agressively with this bike, so this seems to be good. Still trying to figure out the ultimate position on this bike though. I flip flop between wanting to be more upright, or stretched out.

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    Gritter - I will let you know on the rack. Went and got some tubes and swapped lies with the bike shop guys today. Held the Open Bar and I think a small blinky will fit just at the point of max. curvature before the bars come back to the shifter/brake lever zone. Maybe.
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    The blinky will definitely fit there, I just meant that the bag obstructs my light's beam, and casts a big handlebar bag shadow in front of me.

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    That makes sense. I run a blinky on the bar and solid led on the helmet. Thanks for the support. Great info. Keep it coming!
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    The best performance increase in lighting I've had was to move the mounting location down to the fork, a move made necessary by my rack.

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/saddleupbike/11328141346/" title="LHT Built For Hauling by SaddleUpBike, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2888/11328141346_fff09c628e_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="LHT Built For Hauling"></a>

    A capped piece of copper pipe with a hole drilled in to it covered with heat shrink.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    The best performance increase in lighting I've had was to move the mounting location down to the fork, a move made necessary by my rack.

    A capped piece of copper pipe with a hole drilled in to it covered with heat shrink.
    That's a nice way to do it, Saddle Up. Does the copper pipe come with a cap, or did you solder it on, or is it like a separate "press-fit" situation? I know Paul Components makes a version that costs like 18 times as much, but I commend your DIY skills. I like yours, because it's longer, and my lighting-situation needs the extra clearance. I was thinking of using PVC pipe, and maybe gluing on an end-cap. Extra props for making it look clean with the heat-shrink-tubing as well.

    Hmm, maybe a BMX peg? The hole in the end of those are probably 3/8" and too large though . . .

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    The end cap was soldered on to the pipe. I can't take the credit for putting this together, a friend did the work in exchange for parts I had lying around. I do like the DIY aspect of it though. Compared to a piece of pipe even the inexpensive versions for sale online can become costly when shipping is included in the cost. All though the Paul and Nitto versions are as nice to touch as they are to look at. A piece of pipe does allow you to make the mount as long or as short as you need. I needed some length for the light beam to clear the rack support.

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    Little troll finished!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iphilrive View Post
    So you built a Troll and an Ogre at the same time? Lucky!
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