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    Just got my new Troll. In eggplant. It is awesomely, well, purple! Going to build it up as a commuter/kid hauler/grocery getter/mountain bike. And building it with gears. Going to have 20 of 'em. For now. Building with a mix of old and new parts. Should be fun. Supposed to snow tomorrow, might be able to start building tomorrow. I did get the shop to press-in the head set. Step 1, done!
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    ^ Purple and gold looks awesome. There really needs to be more purple bikes.

    Nevegals are great snow tires

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    Thar she blows

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    "There really needs to be more purple bikes."
    Especially if you are a Washington Huskies Fan.
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    If you are going to put a 2.7 tire on the back it w ill fit no problem however,
    you have to move the wheel to the middle or end of the horizontal drop outs for it to fit.
    If you do that, then, you may have to add a link or two to your chain, and you will have slide
    your disc brakes back as well. At this point a surly tuggnot is considered a valuable addition and it
    is probably better to do the bolt conversion kit at this point as well.
    I would stay with a 2.5 tire on the back of your troll and no more than that.

    You can add a 3.0 tire on the front however, you may also want to add surly pugsley forks.
    I would stay with the 2.5 tire on the front as well.

    2.5 on the back and front.
    Keep it simple and uncomplicated.

    Now, its a toss up between 45 Nrth Acerwelder 2.1 winter tires with 168 aluminum studs with
    a carbide tip or Shwalabe Marathon winter tire 2.35.
    I will probably go with the 2.35 just because the stock tires are 2.3.

    Once again, keep it simple and uncomplicated.
    I learning as I go along.
    It's taking a lot of time and money.

    i hope this is helpful

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    [QUOTE=T-roll;9825484]Sunday on the old railway bed.

    This is a picture perfect post card.
    You need a Troll to get around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celt View Post
    I've even read about LHT to Troll converts, stating that the Troll simply does both tasks, road touring and off road touring, very well - while having all the various mounts needed.
    This year i was driving my Troll for more than 8 months non-stop (Karakoram Highway, Patagonia, Scandinavia) and I would say the following: if you plan to stick to paved roads only, by choosing another bike you might win a lot. Some years ago I had CX Bianchi Axis for lightweight asphalt touring,and -- not surprisingly -- it behaved way better than Troll.

    Nowadays I do dislike pavements when going on any kind of gravel|mountain road, I really enjoy driving Troll. Troll is fine with occasional asphalt (say, not more than 50%).

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    @ache do have any pics from that tour? Sounds amazing!

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    Troll Bridge

    Bike Packin' weekend.
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    When my first Surly LHT was lost in 2010, I replaced it with a Troll. I used the Troll to ride the Alaska and the Pacific Coast in the Summer of 2010. Here's a few pictures of the Troll in action.

    I am not sold on the Troll as a touring bike and during the tour ordered another LHT frame (Deluxe!) to build as a touring bike. IMHO the troll is a better commuter, exploration, and short term adventure bike. It carries bags okay; but nothing like the LHT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mwv View Post
    After 3 stems and about 5 sets or bars I think I am done tinkering......maybe.
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    whew...that was close

    Got notice last Wednesday that 18" black was finally in stock. Procrastinated a day or two and you guys were sucking them up.

    Thanks for leaving me one!
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    Troll vs. random All Mountain Hardtail

    Thanks for showing your nice builds!
    And sorry if this should be posted in a separate thread but I guess it could be of interest to anyone considering a Troll.
    Iv been thinking about getting a frame since I could use some old stuff to cut the cost. V-brakes for example and a nice single speed wheelset which dont have disc brakes.
    If I should consider a completely new bike I would probably look at an All Mountain Hardtail like On-One 456, Ragley Piglet, or similar.
    So my question; what will I loose by choosing a Troll instead?
    Fork travel, maybe some weight?
    Anything else?
    What are you troll owners using you bike for?
    Im not really interested in the post-apocalyptic sturdiness or the touring options Ive read about.
    I just want something fun for the tuesday evening trail ride and the weekend all day (maybe two days) mountain tour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vargen View Post
    What are you troll owners using you bike for?
    Im not really interested in the post-apocalyptic sturdiness or the touring options Ive read about.
    I just want something fun for the tuesday evening trail ride and the weekend all day (maybe two days) mountain tour.

    It's my only bike right now, so it's my commuter, and when I put knobbies on it it becomes my mountain bike (that's the only change I need to make). I also have gone on a couple overnight bikepacking/touring trips with it, and plan to ride across the country hopefully this next summer, on a mixed on and off-road tour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vargen View Post
    Thanks for showing your nice builds!
    If I should consider a completely new bike I would probably look at an All Mountain Hardtail like On-One 456, Ragley Piglet, or similar.
    So my question; what will I loose by choosing a Troll instead?
    Fork travel, maybe some weight?
    Anything else?
    What are you troll owners using you bike for?
    Im not really interested in the post-apocalyptic sturdiness or the touring options Ive read about.
    I just want something fun for the tuesday evening trail ride and the weekend all day (maybe two days) mountain tour.
    Basically the major difference is the Troll will give you versatility unmatched by pretty much any other frame in the world. Run it as a singlespeed with v-brakes for now and upgrade to discs and run gears later. Use it for basically anything.

    However the Troll will fall short on aggressive riding because it's got 'classic' MTB geometry. An AM hardtail would be considerably slacker which is huge when you're, well, shredding the gnar. I would crash almost constantly trying to ride a Troll on most of the trails I ride where a 68 degree headtube angle is considered really steep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jason300b View Post
    Just got my new Troll...
    Let's see some progress

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostBoyScout View Post
    Basically the major difference is the Troll will give you versatility unmatched by pretty much any other frame in the world. Run it as a singlespeed with v-brakes for now and upgrade to discs and run gears later. Use it for basically anything.

    However the Troll will fall short on aggressive riding because it's got 'classic' MTB geometry. An AM hardtail would be considerably slacker which is huge when you're, well, shredding the gnar. I would crash almost constantly trying to ride a Troll on most of the trails I ride where a 68 degree headtube angle is considered really steep.
    Thanks!

    Exactly the kind of answer I needed.

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    Good job! Troll - built

    Thanks for all the pictures from the other users, Just built.
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    Can't say a bad thing about it.
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    Posted my flat bar build up above, switched to drops for ****s and actually love it. A super sluggish bike, no doubt, but extremely comfortable. Took it for a 25 mile spin up some serious climbs yesterday, and while I was a bit behind my buddies, I was in no way fatigued at the end. I am building this bike to ride down to South America in the Summer and I think that it is going to do the job wonderfully.

    In terms of fit- I am 5 foot 11 and a half-ish, with a 32 inch inseam and a long torso. I really like an upright, stable feel to my bikes. This is an 18" frameset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAGI410 View Post
    I'm diggin my new Troll
    I dislike the new purple color, but with those white rims, that actually looks attractive to me
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Just got my purple troll and whilst I was staring at the dropouts I couldn't help but wonder, how much of a pain in the ass is it to remove the rear wheel with a full coverage fender installed?

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    I was running fenders on mine for a while, but right now I'm too lazy to put them on and off every time I want to switch from MTB mode to commuting mode, so I just suck up the rain-splash when the weather's bad on the way to work.

    To answer your questions, it's definitely more annoying than without the fender, but it's doable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew69 View Post
    Just got my purple troll and whilst I was staring at the dropouts I couldn't help but wonder, how much of a pain in the ass is it to remove the rear wheel with a full coverage fender installed?
    Worst case you just unscrew the two M5 screws supporting the back section. But it's a flexible section so it's not bad, unlike dropouts like on the CC where you need to have clearance at the BB area or the wheel physically won't come off.

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    help picking a shorter stem??

    Hi everyone!

    I just got a stock Surly Troll about 4 months ago and I love this bike! It is an 18'' frame, I'm 5'9 with a 31 inch inseam. I'm using Ergon grips on the Surly Open bars.

    I really like the Surly Open Bar, it is very comfortable for my wrists. But I feel that the handlebars could be 1'' closer to me for ultimate comfort (my shoulders and mid back hurt after about 20 miles of riding).

    But there seems to be very little 25.4 stems on the market that would allow me to continue using the Open Bars.

    The uses for this bike are

    1. Daily commuter 15 miles a day.
    2. A 1500 mile tour next summer.

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    Soma and Velo Orange both make 25.4 stems in a variety of lengths and angles.
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    Dimension, owned by QBP, who also owns Surly, makes all lengths and angles stems in 25.4 as well...cheap too.

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    I used a Dimension +17, 90mm, 25.4" stem on my Troll with the Open Bar all summer. The most comfortable I have ever been on a bike. Good stuff for very little money just like babu said.

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    There are also clips out there designed for front fenders that allow the fender stay to pop out in case something gets jammed in there. You can use these as a quick release on the rear as well.

    Like these.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew69 View Post
    Just got my purple troll and whilst I was staring at the dropouts I couldn't help but wonder, how much of a pain in the ass is it to remove the rear wheel with a full coverage fender installed?

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    For stems.... If you gotta have the high zoot stems you could get the 31.8's and run the shims/adapters for 31.8 to 25.4. I had a 31.8 stem laying around and it was cheaper for me to buy the shim.

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    Thomson no longer list it on their website, but you used to be able to get 25.4 mm stems from them. I know, because I bought one in May, and it's still listed on Amazon. They have a variety of sizes.

    RE: The dimension stems, the only original part on my old bike when I gave it away after breaking everything on the bike was the Dimension stem, so I can give them a thumbs up

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    Looking for frame sizing advice - I'm 5'9" with ~31 inch cycling inseam. I was originally going to purchase the 16" but it seems many riders in the 5'6" range are using that size...
    I also notice that happycyclist above is my same proportions and is looking to get the bars 1" closer so now I'm confused.

    Competitive Cyclist fit calculator has me on anywhere between 22.9-23.8 effective top tube and it looks like the 18" Troll is 23.5..

    I will be transferring the components from my current Fuji Tahoe and that will include a 100mm stem.

    Any additional thoughts from somebody in my range?

    Thank you!

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    I'm the same size and 18" fits better, you may need to drop to an 80mm stem but that's cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostBoyScout View Post
    I'm the same size and 18" fits better, you may need to drop to an 80mm stem but that's cheap.
    Thanks for that! The more I have read in this thread it looks like the 18 will work well. I am more used to sizing road bikes with drop bars so I was a little confused for a while.

    I also remembered I do have a spare 80mm stem so I'll give that a shot when the time comes.

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    I'm 5'8" with a short torso so ride the 16". I'm probably the limit for that size, taller than me with a normal porportions I'd say 18" also.

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    ^^ thanks Saddle Up.

    I also have an additional question regarding ride characteristics - one frustration I have had with the Tahoe is the feeling of having a high center of gravity while riding it. I have read other Fuji Tahoe riders reporting something similar.

    Is there any hint of what I describe with the Troll?

    I have an old '91 ParkPre mountain bike that rides much differently than the Tahoe so I guess I'm trying to replicate that ride with the addition of the modern frame and components of the Troll.

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    I'm 5'10" and riding an 18" Troll (well, was thanks to a shoulder injury...) with a 100mm stem. The ride feels (to me) very "balanced" with the center of gravity just in the right spot for cruising and technical riding. It reacts very well to being put through its paces and riding aggressivily in the woods. I've also got a 3" wide tire up front and a 2.7" in the rear that helps it claw up anything at all.
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    I've never felt like the Troll has a high COG, the bottom bracket is quite low. As bbbr said and others can attest the Troll has a balanced neutral ride.

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    Thank you for the responses

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    My Troll on Tour

    Here are some pics and a link to the build list:

    Building an apocalypse-proof touring bike – Pedaling Nowhere



    Also, wife's and buddy's Trolls in Mexico:

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    I have to admit, I have seller's remorse for my Troll. That doesn't happen very often. If anyone has a 20" frame banging around...

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    salsa anything cages on troll frame

    has anybody tried fitting the salsa anything cages on the frame instead of the fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweezerGlint View Post
    Here are some pics and a link to the build list:....
    That's a great looking bike. Nice job.

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    Thank you everybody for the responses. I have ordered an 18" black Troll frame.

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    It turns out the place I ordered the frame from does not actually have them in stock. After calling around and searching the net it seems these Troll frames are pretty scarce right now and won't be available until March.

    Anybody know where I can get an 18" Troll frameset (preferably in black)?

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    The Surly site says that the Troll has "ample clearance for 28/38/50t mountain-triple chainrings" and then lists the clearance as 24/36/48t in the frame details.

    It isn't clear to me if these measurements are taken from the 47mm chainline or the 50mm.

    Can any Trollers coment on the chainring clearance for the following chainlines:

    47mm

    50mm

    -Thanks.

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    Question about a front derailleur on a Troll frame:
    I've just received a 20" frame which I need to build up. I need to choose between a "high clamp" or "low clamp" derailleur.
    I see that Surly supply built bikes with a FD-M590 (low clamp). Looking at the photos of everyone's builds I can see that plenty of people are using high clamp derailleurs.
    Is there any performance difference? A high clamp seems to sit between the two bottle cage screws. Does it prevent a bottle cage from been installed?

    Thank you to everyone for posting photos of their builds. It's proved an invaluable resource.

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    If you use a derailer that clamps between the bottle braze ons, you can use two presta valver nuts on each bolt to space out the bottle cage. Works like a charm!

    Quote Originally Posted by thesloth View Post
    A high clamp seems to sit between the two bottle cage screws. Does it prevent a bottle cage from been installed?

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