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    Stripped, Oiled, Waxed

    Well, I've been sick and the rain has finally come, so I stripped the Ogre for a good oiling and waxing.
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    Got a question...

    Making me feel like a bad owner what with the loving oil bath you're treating your Ogre to - my baby is certainly due. Need a little help...the only piece of bike packing kit i'm missing is a frame bag (for a 24") and I came across a 22"Pugs/Moonlander revelate on Amazon, easy to find with search(I don't have enough posts to link yet) and I've looked over the dimensions and just can't convince myself to pull the trigger but it doesn't seem that far off. Only reason I'm considering it is b/c I have an Amazon gift card. Someone tell me I'm being silly, one way or the other.

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    Would the pugs bag not be too wide (not to mention probably the wrong shape?) as i thought they flared out at the front?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbryant2 View Post
    Well, I've been sick and the rain has finally come, so I stripped the Ogre for a good oiling and waxing.
    The only bad thing about linseed oil is that it takes about 3/4 days to dry. Be patient!

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    Don't you people have wives? If you don't let it rust, how do you justify buying another one in a few years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    Don't you people have wives? If you don't let it rust, how do you justify buying another one in a few years?
    I have the opposite problem: my wife's an enabler.

    The Ogre is 150% of the budget I set for a new bike, but apparently the money isn't much and it will make me happy.

    We have the weirdest arguments.

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    TPR CX 8.4 V brake in rear?

    I can get a non disc rohloff. Can I use this brake TPR CX 8.4. What flat bar mtn levers can I use?

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    here's a link to your brakes TRP

    I Like Paul Love levers - never a regret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    Don't you people have wives? If you don't let it rust, how do you justify buying another one in a few years?
    Buy all your bikes in the same colour and she'll think you only have a few bikes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renruthsoj View Post
    Making me feel like a bad owner what with the loving oil bath you're treating your Ogre to - my baby is certainly due. Need a little help...the only piece of bike packing kit i'm missing is a frame bag (for a 24") and I came across a 22"Pugs/Moonlander revelate on Amazon, easy to find with search(I don't have enough posts to link yet) and I've looked over the dimensions and just can't convince myself to pull the trigger but it doesn't seem that far off. Only reason I'm considering it is b/c I have an Amazon gift card. Someone tell me I'm being silly, one way or the other.
    Hi Renruthsoj
    If you go to Revelates web site and follow the links to Surly Frame Bags he has a chart with all the bag dimensions.

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    Thanks Dick and Orbital - I've looked over the chart, I was really hoping someone would have hands on experience with the different sizes/frames before i pay for shipping on a gamble. Found a thread that helped a little if anyone else is wondering. forums.mtbr.com/bikepacking-bike-expedition/revelate-frame-bag-compatibility-urly-moo-814323.html

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    Mud Mode

    I shod the Ogre in some NOS Kenda Klaws and took it out in mud mode for a river ride with my new adventure buddy, Duncan. The tires performed quite well on a variety of different terrain.

    (More pictures of Duncan on my blog for those interested.)
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    Happy dog is happy.

    What handlebars have you got on that? The flats aren't great for my commuting.

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    Surly Open Bar. Best handlebar on the market, IMO.

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    Ah! I didn't recognise it with the grips. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbryant2 View Post
    I shod the Ogre in some NOS Kenda Klaws and took it out in mud mode for a river ride with my new adventure buddy, Duncan. The tires performed quite well on a variety of different terrain.

    (More pictures of Duncan on my blog for those interested.)
    As much as I like your bike I like Duncan better.
    A garage full of steel frames means happiness.

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    Hi. Noob, here. Thinking about getting my first mountain bike (been riding road for about 8 years) and taking advantage of some of the trails around here. The Ogre is at the top of my list for something I want to build up... proven geometry and versatile (if it turns out I don't like off-road, I can always throw on some Big Apples and a couple racks and have myself an indestructible grocery getter/townie).

    Trying to up my post count so I can start threads and really start annoying everyone with my noob questions.

    Anyway, made it all the way through this thread. Y'alls have some pretty nice rides.

    Oh, hey, first question: Anyone know if there are any differences between '12 and '13 models? I've seen the new frames online and it seems only thing that's changed is color... and I already have a black bike.

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    No changes that I know of, and your reasoning sounds good to me! The geo suits non-technical riding so should be good for your immediate needs

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    Hello all. Another happy owner of an Ogre here. Had it about 5 months now & really enjoying it. I bought it as a utility bike, but it's become a singlespeed mtb instead.

    I might just have to get another

    I'll post up a photo once the forum lets me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BareNecessities View Post
    Hello all. Another happy owner of an Ogre here. Had it about 5 months now & really enjoying it. I bought it as a utility bike, but it's become a singlespeed mtb instead.

    I might just have to get another

    I'll post up a photo once the forum lets me.
    You could get a KM as the SS MTB and have both versions

    Can't wait for my frame to arrive, hope to have it by end of week, ride pics by Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostBoyScout View Post
    You could get a KM as the SS MTB and have both versions
    Nice idea

    I've got the 24" version though & for some reason Surly aren't making the Monkey in that size

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    Right then, here's my British based Ogre to add to the mix.



    It's a bit clean here, as it had only just been built. I keep forgetting to take my camera on rides though

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    ****... that picture makes me want to singlespeed my Ogre, which would not be very practical for my purposes, but still... that just looks like too much fun.

    I guess I miss my singlespeed. Maybe a(nother) KM is in my future...

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    So, stickers on or stickers off?

    The army green frame looks pretty boss totally clean, but the Surly branding is cool too.

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    In my mind, it's stickers off always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbryant2 View Post
    that picture makes me want to singlespeed my Ogre, which would not be very practical for my purposes.
    Probably not wise if you're using it for trailer pulling duties I might be ok with that, as it's flat around where I live. I'm still using my LHT for an everyday working bike at the moment, so I'm in no rush to change.

    I might reconsider once I get around to buying a trailer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BareNecessities View Post
    Right then, here's my British based Ogre to add to the mix.



    It's a bit clean here, as it had only just been built. I keep forgetting to take my camera on rides though
    Hi,

    Where are you bought your 24" Surly ogre ?

    All the best,

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    Quote Originally Posted by lusss View Post
    Hi,

    Where are you bought your 24" Surly ogre ?

    All the best,

    Lucien
    Hi Lucien, I bought my Ogre frameset from Triton Cycles, in the UK.

    SURLY Ogre Frameset :: £386.99 :: Frames & Forks :: Frames - 29ers :: Triton Cycles

    I did have to wait 6 months due to a lack of availability in the 24" size though. Triton only deliver inside the UK & dont be fooled by their "in stock" display on their website, as it's sadly, rarely accurate. If you're in Europe? Then you could order one through Charlie the Bikemonger. A very helpful chap, who has a good reputation.

    Surly Ogre 29er Frame Forks

    Both these shops would order the frame through the UK distributor for Surly, Ison Distribution.

    Ison Distribution

    I see that Ison are showing a 24" Green in stock at the moment. Their stock levels are usually quite accurate.

    If you're based in the US, or elsewhere, then I'm afraid that I don't know.

    Good luck in your quest to obtain one

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    Quote Originally Posted by BareNecessities View Post
    Hi Lucien, I bought my Ogre frameset from Triton Cycles, in the UK.

    SURLY Ogre Frameset :: £386.99 :: Frames & Forks :: Frames - 29ers :: Triton Cycles

    I did have to wait 6 months due to a lack of availability in the 24" size though. Triton only deliver inside the UK & dont be fooled by their "in stock" display on their website, as it's sadly, rarely accurate. If you're in Europe? Then you could order one through Charlie the Bikemonger. A very helpful chap, who has a good reputation.

    Surly Ogre 29er Frame Forks

    Both these shops would order the frame through the UK distributor for Surly, Ison Distribution.

    Ison Distribution

    I see that Ison are showing a 24" Green in stock at the moment. Their stock levels are usually quite accurate.

    If you're based in the US, or elsewhere, then I'm afraid that I don't know.

    Good luck in your quest to obtain one

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    Nice

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    Larger Frame

    I have my new Ogre 22" frame coming on Friday. I will post picks of the build as soon as they are available. I have a great condition 20" Ogre frame up for sale if anyone is interested.
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    took some glamour shots today!






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    I can on the last photo.

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    ?@#$%^ technology!

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    That's a sweet Ogre.

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    Sweet Ogre!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbryant2 View Post
    Sweet Ogre!
    Having secound thoughts on the Pugs?

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    Sorry for the double post y'all. First one timed out but I guess it went through.

    As for the Pugs, yes, I've decided against that plan. Since I'd typically be running skinnier tires, the offset wheelset factor scared me off. I only have the budget to maintain one bike at the moment, rarely see snow here, and like to do long rides, sometimes with upwards of 50 miles of pavement. Ogre still makes the most sense.

    To be honest, when the budget improves I think the Ogre may turn into a Disc Trucker and Karate Monkey. Maybe some day the dedicated fat bike will even be in the cards...
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    Fargo fork on an Ogre?

    Has anyone tried a Fargo fork (V1 or V2) on an Ogre? I've reread through this whole thread and elsewhere on the internet, and while there is some speculation, I have not found anyone who has actually tried it.

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    Funny you mention the Fargo fork... I have been seriously considering a V2 fork, which should work much better with the Ogre geometry than the V1. Just a bit more offset is all. About 200 grams lighter than the Ogre fork, too.

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    And the Fargo fork has forward facing dropouts, which are better if using disc brakes. If you do try it out, please post photos and your impressions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbruton7 View Post
    Has anyone tried a Fargo fork (V1 or V2) on an Ogre? I've reread through this whole thread and elsewhere on the internet, and while there is some speculation, I have not found anyone who has actually tried it.
    A mechanic at Performance Bicycles in the U-District (Seattle) has done exactly this; Fargo V2 fork on a Surly Ogre. Stands out because the paint scheme doesn't match up and there's only 4 or so Ogre's running around Seattle at the moment. He had no issues with handling, and did it for the disk brake thing. The weight decrease was rather nice though.

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    happy with it except for the flat front tire ;D

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    what's up with those additional rack mounts on the fork, right under the crown?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy View Post
    what's up with those additional rack mounts on the fork, right under the crown?
    no freaking idea.

    maybe for 50mm cannons?

    anyways, it is a great ride!

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    I guess those mounts are an addition for 2013, my 2012 didn't had them.
    I have those on my Pugs, they are really cool if you want to mount a rear rack on the fork

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    Christmas for Me!

    Here is my new Ogre build. So far I have made these upgrades to the original bike from parts I had laying around:

    -Planet Bike Fenders
    -PDW rear rack
    - Chris King Headset
    -Thomson seatpost, stem
    -Surly Woodchipper Handlebars with shimano bar end shifters and Cane creek brake levers
    -Broos B-17 narrow
    - Arundel SS bottle cages times 3
    - Shimano A530 pedals

    The next purchase will probably be Schwalbe Big Ben tires then a front rack (probably a Surly), followed by a new front wheel build with generator hub.

    It rides well and fits really well with with the Woodchipper bar set up. I am going to lower the stem about 10 to 15 mm but I will probably leave the steerer tube uncut for future aging.

    I am very happy with it so far.
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    Commute in the Oregon rain.

    Running errands in the rain.
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    Nice bike. Merry Christmas to you indeed!

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    Finally "finished" a bike that I've been designing in my head for the last 3 years, but things have only come good in the last month or so for me to actually start doing this.

    1) Son28 (2012) 32H hub laced with 14G straight gauge Wheelsmith blanks. Straight gauge spokes were selected for their higher availability. They're connected to a Pedalpower+ iUniversal cable and Supernova E3 Triple light.
    2) Revelate Designs frame bag. Inside is a Pedalpower+ v4i battery, tools & a lock.
    3) Rohloff Speedhub (2012) disk brake quick-release axle with external gear mech. I elected to run Delta Axlerodz skewers instead of quick releases as the front hub uses 5mm Allen key heads already and I rather like them, and the existing quick release lever wasn't even close to strong enough.
    4) Chris King NoThreadset headset, Thompson stem, butterfly touring bars plus a nice little SRAM bell mounted behind the stem. I also have the Edge 800 mounted on the stem; with the cut steerer tube it allows me to plug a mini-USB from the Pedalpower+ system in to the charging port of the Edge 800 while still keeping the handlebars totally clear. I can run it almost continually without having to plug it in to a charger, the only issue now being running out of storage space on the device for workouts and possibly a little manual management of power. I also have the v4i battery pack in there, which allows me to charge devices at 700 mA & 5V, which is standard USB output.

    While the system is charging, the Son28's power is split between the two circuits running in parallel (E3 light & v4i battery) which greatly reduces the effectiveness of the system, so I tend to disconnect parts of the circuit during the darker months. For 3 season bikepacking though, this would work really well, especially if at least 3 hours of riding is done with the headlight turned off (that would be enough to charge a standard cellphone ~70%).

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    the ogre is the best bicycle ever made.
    /ipa thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter006 View Post

    Finally "finished" a bike that I've been designing in my head for the last 3 years, but things have only come good in the last month or so for me to actually start doing this.
    "thoughtful" doesn't begin to describe this Ogre-for-the-ages. Well done. Can't wait to see where you tour on this setup.

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    another shot! i love this bike!


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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy View Post
    the ogre is the best bicycle ever made.
    /ipa thoughts.
    Is it bad that I ride my Ogre more than my expensive trail bike?

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    Hi Folks,

    please help me a little bit. I definitely wanna gor for the Ogre!!! I currently have an On One Inbred in XL 29" and it could be "bigger". I'm 6ft 3" and have an inseam of 95,0 cm. And I really don't know whether to go for a 22" or 24" frame.

    I know it's hard but what would you do? I consider building it up as an bikepacker Bike with Rohloff and 2.3 tires. It should do good on streets but also on the trail.

    Thank you all !!!

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    I've been in communication with the factory. They advise that at 6'8" with a 39" inside leg, the 24" would be 'OK for' me. You'd be advised to try both the 22" and 24".
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyLion View Post
    Hi Folks,

    please help me a little bit. I definitely wanna gor for the Ogre!!! I currently have an On One Inbred in XL 29" and it could be "bigger". I'm and have an inseam of 95,0 cm. And I really don't know whether to go for a 22" or 24" frame.
    I am in a somewhat similar situation as yours. I sold my On One Inbred 29 XL frame + the carbon fork (a build I had never finished), right after I tried Surly Karate Monkey (same geometry as Ogre) and realized its versatility and geometry advantages over Inbred for my purposes (and my body physique).

    I intend to build my Ogre as a light-use MTB bike, which can be easily and quickly transformed into a heavy duty expedition bike, when the need arises. I rode both (stock Inbred and stock KM) in XL, and even though the effective top tube is somewhat longer on Inbred, the KM geometry felt more comfortable and better suited for longer rides. Both bikes have relatively short wheelbase, but KM felt more stable - something I assign to its longer stem design (as opposed to Inbred). On the other hand, Inbred felt much more livelier and maneuverable on twisty trails. But the main difference (at least for me) was the more upright posture I experienced on KM. The front of the bike feels much higher than on Inbred (see the head tube difference). In no way I want to bash the Inbred. If I were looking for a pure off-roared made of steel, this bike would be my choice. But as a touring bike, the Ogre has much more going for it.

    I am also 6ft 3" tall with an inseam of 90 cm. The XL size (KM/Ogre) fits me like a glove. I have shorter arms though (my arms span is only 183 cm), so if your arms are anywhere near as long as your legs, you may feel more comfortable on the 24" frame.

    Good luck with your choice.

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    Hello Sea Monster,

    thank you very much for your Input! It is definitely helpful!!

    I absolutely agree with you, the Inbred is a very very good bike. I love it for it's versatility. I's good on trails but good as an "offroad- tourer" as well!

    But on the other side it's front is just too low for my needs and I'm currently running it with 60mm spacer, 110mm stem and 35mm rise + 30mm rise bar.

    From the end of the seat tube to the very top of my saddle it's 30cm ... so it could be "bigger".

    But I am concerned whether the stand over of the Ogre is too much for me (81cm inbred vs ~ 87cm Ogre). But since your inseam is 5cm less than mine and 24" fits you perfect I'm pretty much sure to got for it since my span (from index to index finger) is 192cm

    thanks so far ... I'm looking forward getting one

    best regards so far !!

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    Oh I still have one question ( I searched a lot but wasn't able to find any information!)

    why can I only mount a 160 mm Disc. What are the limiting factors? I mean an adaptor could easily home made to fit a 180mm (Rohloff - that's the reason I'm asking. I have a few of them in 180 lying around) Disc! Does it collide with the frame or is the mount not firm enough to handle the bigger leverage from running a 180mm disc?

    Please let me know. I'm interested in what's behind this limitation to 160mm

    thanks all

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyLion View Post
    ... and I'm currently running it with 60mm spacer, 110mm stem and 35mm rise + 30mm rise bar.

    But I am concerned whether the stand over of the Ogre is too much for me (81cm inbred vs ~ 87cm Ogre). But since your inseam is 5cm less than mine and 24" fits you perfect I'm pretty much sure to got for it since my span (from index to index finger) is 192cm
    Hold on! I test rode KM XL = 22" frame. The 24" frame is XXL. Nevertheless, if your 21" Inbred frame felt shortish even with the 110mm stem, then Ogre in XL (22") won't feel any longer, since the effective top tube is 8mm shorter. I rode the 21" Inbred with a 80mm stem and the 22" KM with a 110mm stem. And yes, it was more crowded around the jewels area on KM than on Inbred, but nothing uncomfortable. You will have over 6cm clearance on the 24" frame (more than I have on the 22" frame). That should suffice. Don't you have any possibility to sit on KM? They don't make them in 24", but you'd get a pretty good idea sitting on the 22" frame whether you need the XXL frame.

    I have no idea why the design allows only for 160mm disc brakes. I wouldn't worry too much about it. I weigh around 100 kg, and BB7 160mm disc brakes give me all the stopping power I need. I will run 160mm rear and 180mm front disc on my Ogre build.

    Good luck!
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    Studded tires and fenders

    Has anyone tried studded tires and fenders on the Ogre? Photoes please
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    I'm going to try to ask this without beating a dead horse: I've read back and forth in this thread with people showing the Tubus Cargo rack installed with plenty of room. I called The Touring Store and he had me convinced it wouldn't work, he sounded very knowledgeable. Now I'm on the fence. I see pictures on here showing what I want, but I'm second guessing. Can anyone with direct experience with the Tubus Cargo or EVO chime in to quell my uncertainty?

    I even bought panniers ready to attach to the rack but decided to wait on the rack itself. I'd like to avoid the Nice Rack, not that weight is a huge issue, but the Tubus has a higher payload with a lighter frame. If it comes down to it I'll just go with Surly's.

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    I use the 26 Cargo and it works fine, although the loop brace does sandwich my 65mm fenders. Depending on the size tire you use, you may not be able to run fenders with the 26 Cargo. I'm sure the 700/29 Cargo will not give you any trouble. Even if it somehow did, you could use the extension brackets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvrdberger View Post
    Has anyone tried studded tires and fenders on the Ogre? Photoes please
    GIS is your friend. First result for "Surly Ogre." (Not my picture.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by EatWorkRide View Post
    Does this bag make my Ogre's butt look big?

    Added a Freeload rack and . Love it but will probably only use it for long rides. Still undecided on wether to leave it on all the time. And please excuse the cluttered garage.


    Hey there, EatWorkRide,

    How is that gorgeous Zimbale bag treating you? I am looking into buying one, but I am not sure whether the 18l size isn't too cumbersome. Can you share your experience?

    Edit: Or is it the 11l bag?

    Thanks
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    Nice rack bag. What make?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilroy A View Post
    Nice rack bag. What make?
    Carradice copycats Zimbale - Beyond your expectation !

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    Love the ogre!
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    i just dropped the bars/stem 20mm today and went and rode.
    wow is all i can say....i've gotten so used to high bars on my commuter bikes that i've assumed ever since i've had the ogre that high was the way to go, and set the stem at 60mm stack height and never looked back.
    this ride was incredible....the bike handled better, i was more comfortable, and i was actually able to lift the front end over obstacles in the road....
    lesson learned: just cause you can run 'em that high, doesn't mean you have to, or that it's better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy View Post
    i just dropped the bars/stem 20mm today and went and rode.
    Perhaps you care to specify your original setup, so we know where from you dropped the bars (and to what)? Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy View Post
    i've gotten so used to high bars on my commuter bikes that i've assumed ever since i've had the ogre that high was the way to go, and set the stem at 60mm stack height and never looked back.
    there ya go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy View Post
    i just dropped the bars/stem 20mm today and went and rode.
    wow is all i can say....i've gotten so used to high bars on my commuter bikes that i've assumed ever since i've had the ogre that high was the way to go, and set the stem at 60mm stack height and never looked back.
    this ride was incredible....the bike handled better, i was more comfortable, and i was actually able to lift the front end over obstacles in the road....
    lesson learned: just cause you can run 'em that high, doesn't mean you have to, or that it's better!
    I started off with 35mm spacers beneath the stem, one 5mm spacer above, flat bars with a 15º stem. When I switched to butterfly bars, I got a stem that was 10mm longer (110mm), 5º stem, and dropped it down to 20mm below the stem. The butterfly bars stretch me out a little too, which is nice for longer distances. Bike handles awesome provided I have enough front tire pressure (when I don't, it starts to dive in to corners). I probably could have gone an extra 10mm on the stem for length, but I think it's pretty damn close to perfect.

    It's definitely a bike that you want to leave the stem uncut for a while and muck around with the handlebar height.

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    Ogre Porn

    Of which there is a bit more on my blog (link in signature).
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    Nice dog. Yours?

    Which Brooks saddle is on your Ogre? I can't make it out.

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    Yeah, he's an eight-year-old lab mix we adopted a few months ago. Nice guy. His name is Duncan.

    That's a B17.

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    That's a nice build there Matt; some lovely photos on your blog too!

    I'm quite envious of your local scenery. It looks like a great place to live

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    Quote Originally Posted by BareNecessities View Post
    I'm quite envious of your local scenery. It looks like a great place to live
    I second that. I'd call it "a desolate awesomeness". The Ogre must feel there right in its environment (and so must Duncan).

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    Thanks guys!

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    Surly Ogre with Salsa Fargo Fork

    I have my ogre set up with a V2 Fargo fork right now and there is a bit of a difference. I have not had a ton of time on the new fork but some. You can certainly feel it being a bit more flexy but nothing unexpected of the Fargo fork. I think it rides a bit more smooth with the Fargo fork and there is a difference in weight that is certainly not a bad thing but not super noticeable. I would recommend the Fargo fork if you want a bit of a smoothr ride and are trying to save weight but to me it probably wouldn't be worth it if I had to spend the money on the fork. (if the fork wasn't given to me). Edited for pictures.
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    Very interesting. I'm sure we can all admit that the Ogre fork can be a bit harsh at times. It's the fork I'd choose for running a front rack, but without a load up front, a more compliant fork might be nice. A tad more offset could be a good thing, too. And the Fargo fork saves 1/2 pound off the stock fork. Might have to try this eventually.

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    More Ogre Porn

    Two Ogres in the mist, and an Ogre at the entrance to a trail named "Ogre."
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    Hey Matt what fenders are you using in that photo ? Thats seems like the way I'd like to go with my bike. Looks EZ to deal with. Thanx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodsgroovin View Post
    Hey Matt what fenders are you using in that photo ?
    Hi woodsgroovin, they look very much to me like the Crud Raceguard and Crud Catcher.

    You can get them as a set called Crud Racepac,



    They're very sturdy and do a decent job for off-road guards.

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    Those are them!

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    Thank you both. Looks like they have a RacePac for 29ers coming out soon so I might hunt those down. This is definitely my fender solution. Thanks again.

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    Still nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvrdberger View Post
    Has anyone tried studded tires and fenders on the Ogre? Photoes please

    Nokian Gazza Extremes:
    You have no excuse for driving to work
    (unless you don't have studded tires)
    (no excuse for that either)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvrdberger View Post
    Has anyone tried studded tires and fenders on the Ogre? Photoes please
    Looks like my links died on the earlier posts of mine. Same as CB's Setup.


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    very nice ogre like the over-all-setup !

    may I ask what nokian tires you are running? And how they perform?

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    Hey guys, I have a question...
    I've been on the market for a while for a frame to build as an SS29er but also want somehing I.can slap gears on, load up cargo, and take on an adventure weather it be a road tour or bikepack. Seems like the ogre is.my best bet.

    Is this a decent bike for straight up singletrack?
    I guess so if its the same geo as a km.

    I would be riding it as an SS mtb more than anything since I don't really have the time to go on many trips so I don't mind having to swap parts as needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyLion View Post
    very nice ogre like the over-all-setup !

    may I ask what nokian tires you are running? And how they perform?
    I think I can answer for both of us... first, thank you. Second, I think we're running the same Nokian Gazza Extreme 294's in the 29x2.1 size. I know that's what mine are, and I think Jordy said he's got the same ones.

    they're my first studded tires, and I'm blown away. Incredible traction in ice, slush, snow...I can't say enough. Granted, I don't have a studded tire comparison chart in my mind, but these things defy all logic and change my concept of what's rideable. Simply amazing.

    The downsides are that they are heavy and slow rolling on pavement. I just see it as training. The bike is a tank anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kikoraa View Post
    Hey guys, I have a question...
    I've been on the market for a while for a frame to build as an SS29er but also want somehing I.can slap gears on, load up cargo, and take on an adventure weather it be a road tour or bikepack. Seems like the ogre is.my best bet.

    Is this a decent bike for straight up singletrack?
    I guess so if its the same geo as a km.

    I would be riding it as an SS mtb more than anything since I don't really have the time to go on many trips so I don't mind having to swap parts as needed.
    I love it for single track. It's a rougher ride than I was used to (came from full suspension) but now I find myself riding the Ogre more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbryant2 View Post
    Two Ogres in the mist, and an Ogre at the entrance to a trail named "Ogre."
    good picture

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    Gritter that is such a clean looking Ogre I am so impressed!

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    I am digging the black. That is cool. I had a completely 'murdered out' commuter cx bike for a while... that Ogre is making me want to spend money
    You have no excuse for driving to work
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    @Gritter -are you planning on loosening fender for rear flat fixes? If, keep those struts short and fender close at the 9 oclock position, the wheel won't make it out the dropout while fender is on. Pair that hassle with IGH nuts, and stiff sidewalls and voila, 20mins to fix a flat. No biggie on tour, but you sure will be late on that commute into work...

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    ^^ I have those same Cascadia fenders, and I set them up too close when I first built mine. I had never had sliding dropouts before and didn't even think about it.... quick reposition, and it's easy. I have two wheelsets (studs, slicks) and I swap them out all the time... but yes, check before you trim those struts!!
    You have no excuse for driving to work
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