Page 22 of 22 FirstFirst ... 121819202122
Results 2,101 to 2,140 of 2140

Thread: surly ogre

  1. #2101
    Not really fixed.
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Posts
    134
    Quote Originally Posted by ETChipotle View Post
    Looks like the new fork for the Krampus might be compatible with the 2015 Ogre, but a bit pricey at $185 to lose the v brake dooley bobbers and go through axle
    It's also got a 15mm longer a2c.

  2. #2102
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    219
    You're right, I was remembering the wrong size A2C for Ogre. This one's too long

  3. #2103
    Did I catch a niner+?
    Reputation: Mr Pink57's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    2,946
    Just ordered a new 2017 Medium Ogre Frameset which I will have next week. Anyone interested in the older style medium Ogre I will sell for $400 (will include frame, fork and headset) and will include the Surly Revelate framebag for an extra $50. Pm me.

    Mr. Krabs: Is it true, Squidward? Is it hilarious?

  4. #2104
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    493
    What are you hoping to gain MrPink57?

    Didn't I read you need a larger rear hub for wider spacing?

  5. #2105
    Did I catch a niner+?
    Reputation: Mr Pink57's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    2,946
    Quote Originally Posted by rifraf View Post
    What are you hoping to gain MrPink57?

    Didn't I read you need a larger rear hub for wider spacing?
    Its Gnot Boost it will fit a 135, I am hoping to gain more bag space inside the frame and enjoy non suspension corrected frames a lot more.
    Mr. Krabs: Is it true, Squidward? Is it hilarious?

  6. #2106
    mtbr member
    Reputation: dfltroll's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    918
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pink57 View Post
    Its Gnot Boost it will fit a 135, I am hoping to gain more bag space inside the frame and enjoy non suspension corrected frames a lot more.
    While there are aspects of the new Ogre which are appealing, i don't know that it really offers that much more bag space. Have you compared them?
    All good expeditions should be simple in concept, difficult in their execution and satisfying to remember--Alastair Humphreys

  7. #2107
    mtbr member
    Reputation: dfltroll's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    918
    In the past couple of hours since my previous post I went out and purchased an XL Ogre frame. I'll be swapping over everything from my L Krampus--1x9 drivetrain, RH rims with ETs, Jones bars, etc. My Krampus just felt a little small. I'm a bit anxious about the sizing. I do have an XL BD so I have two reference points. I just fall between sizes. I just wasn't hitting up enough singletrack where I was putting the Krampus to good use. I'll likely use the Ogre as a do it all kid hauler, commuter, dirt road rambler and bike camping machine. I like than I can put a rear rack on it.

    I recently sold a bike and will be likely selling off the Krampus frame so I'll still only be at 4 bikes which is good. Earlier this year I had been close to pulling the trigger on a Wed that I was going to set-up for trail riding with a dropper and a suspension fork but realized it just wouldn't see enough use.

    I should have the frame set-up and rolling in about a week and a half.
    All good expeditions should be simple in concept, difficult in their execution and satisfying to remember--Alastair Humphreys

  8. #2108
    mtbr member
    Reputation: dfltroll's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    918

    XL ponderings.

    So I woke up excited about my new XL Ogre but also a little anxious about sizing. I'll be curious what it feels like on singletrack, especially technical or steep trails although it shouldn't see too much use like that. Here's pictures of my XL BD and L Krampus for reference. Anyone have any thoughts?

    surly ogre-bdw244.jpgsurly ogre-img_0116.jpg
    All good expeditions should be simple in concept, difficult in their execution and satisfying to remember--Alastair Humphreys

  9. #2109
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    1,645
    me personally i dont much care for the way the ogre handles on the trails,of course i never really had it set up for that but the older models at least are fairly stiff until loaded with racks and such...but having seen the prototype Cass had and hearing his experience with it maybe the newer models will handle singletrack better...

    as far as the fit,it seems like its just a matter of finding the right stem length and such to adjust the cockpit,i have an xxl ogre,xl krampus,xl km,xxl ICT,and 64cm cross check and straggler and as different as they all are they all fit well...

  10. #2110
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    3

    New Ogre

    Long time lurker, first time poster.

    I picked up my 2017 Ogre this afternoon and my first impression is very good. I originally went out to buy a Salsa Fargo in February then I rode a 2016 Ogre that was in the shop and immediately preferred it due to my MTB background and lack of familiarity with drop bars. A few days after putting down my deposit the 2017s were announced so I decided to wait mainly due to the ability to clear larger tires/fit 27.5+, and updated frame details. I'm happy I waited (it was not easy), I like the color and to my shock I love the handlebar on my short ride. I need to tweak a few things here and there but for my purposes (general exploration, errand running, bikepacking, and baby hauling) this is the perfect setup.

    surly ogre-ogre.jpg

    For those of you wondering and to add an action pic to this thread, it wheelies well too!

    surly ogre-ogre-wheelie.jpg

  11. #2111
    Did I catch a niner+?
    Reputation: Mr Pink57's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    2,946
    Any pics of the Gnot boost? Does your ET look like a fender would fit with it all the way forward? I will pick my frame up next week.
    Mr. Krabs: Is it true, Squidward? Is it hilarious?

  12. #2112
    mtbr member
    Reputation: dfltroll's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    918

    XL sized folks be aware...

    that the steerer tube on the Ogre fork is only 260mm. The headtube is 150mm. My frame arrived and after the headset was installed there was only 8cm (possibly 9cm) of steerer tube left. For me that left room for only 4cm of spacers with a 4cm stem. It should be fine for me. Just something for you taller folks to think about.

    It's a heavy frame but that shouldn't be a surprise. The brown looks really nice. It should be built up by next week--Jones bars, RH rims with ETs, 1x10 drivetrain, VP platform pedals, BB7 brakes. Nothing special but dependable and capable.
    All good expeditions should be simple in concept, difficult in their execution and satisfying to remember--Alastair Humphreys

  13. #2113
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    3
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pink57 View Post
    Any pics of the Gnot boost? Does your ET look like a fender would fit with it all the way forward? I will pick my frame up next week.
    Hi Mr Pink57,

    You may have already received your frame but here are a few pics that may answer your questions. Here's a pic of the Gnot boost dropout from the inside without the wheel installed and outside with the wheel pushed all the way forward.

    surly ogre-gnot-boost-inside.jpg

    surly ogre-gnot-boost-outside.jpg

    Regarding fender clearance it looks a little tight at the chainstay yoke with more room at the seatstays.

    surly ogre-chainstay-clearance.jpg

    surly ogre-seatstay-clearane.jpg

    A general comment, there are a lot of parts to remove for the rear wheel since Surly included a Tugnut and 10/12 spacers. The rear wheel install reminds me of a motorcycle wheel swap with the spacers but it is not too bad.

    Ride safe!

  14. #2114
    mtbr member
    Reputation: dfltroll's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    918

    Ready to ride.

    Picked up the Ogre today. This is a big bike but I'm still glad I went with the XL as opposed to the L. Gotta adjust the angle on the bars. I'll likely get a shorter stem. I may also swap out bars for the narrower Jones bars that I have on my BD.

    Clearance with the ETs on RH rims is fine with the wheel slammed forward.

    I don't think mine came with a Tuggnut. Hopefully I'll get out for a ride on some dirt next week.

    Here's a picture. Still need to get some cages on it and rear rack. It'll likely do commute duty this week.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails surly ogre-ogrei.jpg  

    All good expeditions should be simple in concept, difficult in their execution and satisfying to remember--Alastair Humphreys

  15. #2115
    mtbr member
    Reputation: dfltroll's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    918
    Got a chance to commute in to work on the Ogre this morning. I took my daughter to daycare in the trailer and dropped her and the trailer off then on to work. The bike feels great. While it feels like a big bike, it doesn't feel too big. The ETs are a bit of overkill for commuting but I knew that already. I put my Surly rear rack on without issue. No heel strike with a pannier. Hopefully next week I'll get a chance to explore some dirt roads and even some single track in the Mt Hood NF.
    All good expeditions should be simple in concept, difficult in their execution and satisfying to remember--Alastair Humphreys

  16. #2116
    Did I catch a niner+?
    Reputation: Mr Pink57's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    2,946
    Just built it up today. The fenders fit fine, even better than on the old ogre. First picture is with old frame bag and it fits well.

    FYI, the FD does not accept the old style with a stopper you must use a direct mount fd with the housing running all the way to the FD for those coming from the older ogre frame. I just ordered an old stock XT.





    Mr. Krabs: Is it true, Squidward? Is it hilarious?

  17. #2117
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    1,645
    new ogres are looking....well...dang useful!

    RBC5000 any feedback on how the et tires are on those alex rims?

  18. #2118
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    3
    Hi hamsterspam,

    No issues with the Alex rims. I have yet to change a tire, flat, or convert to tubeless so we will see how easy the tires come on/off. I have also not had tires roll or fold when cornering at speed at 20 psi but I haven't put a ton of time on the bike so that could still happen.

    I read the bikepacking.com review and was mildly convinced 25 mm width stock rims were not ideal but honestly I don't see them being a problem. Not sure if that answers your question, let me know.

  19. #2119
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    1,645
    i was surprised to see surly had a range as low as 19mm for rim width for the et tires but i guess since i had schwalbe big apples on alex adventurer rims it shouldnt be surprising...i have had the et's on blunt35 and rabbit hole rims so far,personally i liked the blunt35/et combo the best so far,although they do great on the rabbit holes...

  20. #2120
    mtbr member
    Reputation: slopvehicle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    72
    I'm running ETs on old WTB Dual Duty XC 29er rims, they have a 19mm internal width. Seating the bead was a little squirrely (even with tubes) but no problems since. I'd like to build a set w/ Blunts and see how the tire profile changes.

  21. #2121
    mtbr member
    Reputation: dfltroll's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    918
    Got out on my Ogre today for a little bit of trail riding. It works well. Certainly not a trail ripper like a Krampus but fine for me. I was running my ETs on RH rims and they work well enough as long as you're not pushing it on the corners and the trail is dry. I should lowered the pressure. I have no doubts about this bike to be perfect for its primary intended use of exploring dirt FS roads in Gifford Pinchot NF and Mt Hood NF this summer.

    I'd love to try out some 27.5 plus wheels on it. Although I'll likely end up picking up a set of 29x2.4 tires before a new wheelset.
    All good expeditions should be simple in concept, difficult in their execution and satisfying to remember--Alastair Humphreys

  22. #2122
    mtbr member
    Reputation: dfltroll's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    918

    The Ogre is Go.

    So I got out for a few hours of riding in the Mt Hood National Forest. Initially I was going to roll around on some dirt FS roads but opted to ride singletrack instead. The Ogre was great. It rode well enough. I had been worried about sizing but it felt just fine and handled well. I was running ETs and they worked well too. There were only a few spots where things got sketchy--a steep loose descent and a few short steep climbs.

    I really want to give it a try with a 27.5 plus wheelset. I need to sell some more stuff. I also need to lower the bars a bit.

    The bag is a large Tangle bag. Frame is XL.

    Here's some pictures from Surveyor's Ridge with Mt Hood in the background.surly ogre-34300057124_88db59ea44_z.jpgsurly ogre-ogreii.jpg
    All good expeditions should be simple in concept, difficult in their execution and satisfying to remember--Alastair Humphreys

  23. #2123
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    1,645
    the prototype ogre i saw had a 27.5 wheelset and 2.8 inch tires...looked like a capable bike...makes me wonder about a set of wheel for my ogre...

  24. #2124
    mtbr member
    Reputation: asollie's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    307
    Quote Originally Posted by dfltroll View Post
    So I got out for a few hours of riding in the Mt Hood National Forest.
    Great pictures! How tall are you?
    Bikes for the Very Tall - A list I maintain of the largest bikes in the industry. Includes mtb and road.

  25. #2125
    mtbr member
    Reputation: dfltroll's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    918
    Quote Originally Posted by asollie View Post
    Great pictures! How tall are you?
    I'm only 6' tall but my PBH is 90cm and my saddle height 79 to 80cm depending on shoes and pedals. As big as this bike is, it feels great for plodding along. I've got 5cm of spacers, an 80cm stem with 7 degree rise and 71cm Jones bars.
    All good expeditions should be simple in concept, difficult in their execution and satisfying to remember--Alastair Humphreys

  26. #2126
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    1,645
    so i kept thinking that i wanted something like a fargo but apparently you have to order them 10 years in advance if you actually expect to get one...i guess salsa only makes about 100 bikes total per year since they seem to be impossible to get...

    so i made my own...the Fargogre...

    surly ogre-dsc05065.jpgsurly ogre-dsc05067.jpgsurly ogre-dsc05070.jpgsurly ogre-dsc05071.jpg


    a bit of a hack to get a shifter working for it...the bar end i had is broken or something since i couldnt get it to index properly...if i like this set up i will get the paul components bar adapter dealy and a sram gx shifter/derailleur/cassette and upgrade to 11 speed...

  27. #2127
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    31
    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    i was surprised to see surly had a range as low as 19mm for rim width for the et tires but i guess since i had schwalbe big apples on alex adventurer rims it shouldnt be surprising...i have had the et's on blunt35 and rabbit hole rims so far,personally i liked the blunt35/et combo the best so far,although they do great on the rabbit holes...
    What pressure were you running with the blunt35 setup? I'm still getting my ETs dialed in, trying to find the right balance between comfort without going too soft to risk rim damage. I've got them on 40mm rims.

  28. #2128
    mtbr member
    Reputation: dfltroll's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    918
    hampsterspam, how does it handle with the drops? Is it twitchy at all? I sure wish Surly would make a dedicated drop-bar dirt/tour/plus bike.
    All good expeditions should be simple in concept, difficult in their execution and satisfying to remember--Alastair Humphreys

  29. #2129
    Rednose/Greenback
    Reputation: apbtlvr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    317
    What stem is that please?
    38 54' -77 15

  30. #2130
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    1,645
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeR91 View Post
    What pressure were you running with the blunt35 setup? I'm still getting my ETs dialed in, trying to find the right balance between comfort without going too soft to risk rim damage. I've got them on 40mm rims.
    like 20-25psi on either the blunts or the rabbit holes,30 made them seem pretty stiff and fast but for comfort 20 psi is good unless your riding through tons of rocks or something

    Quote Originally Posted by dfltroll View Post
    hampsterspam, how does it handle with the drops? Is it twitchy at all? I sure wish Surly would make a dedicated drop-bar dirt/tour/plus bike.
    i will have to let you know,i dont recall it being especially squirrelly before when i tried it,but i had a way longer,flatter stem...and different tires too..i have 4 different wheelsets that will fit this bike so it will get tried with et's on rabbit holes,the nano 2.1 on wtb speed disc rims,trail boss 2.4's on blunt 35's,i have a set of alex adventurer rims so i may try some riddler 2.25's as well as the 45c i already have,and the option of a trail boss 2.4 rear and ranger 3.0 up front...but first i will ride it as is for a bit...

    Quote Originally Posted by apbtlvr View Post
    What stem is that please?
    its a dimension stem,31.8 clamp size i think its a 70 degree rise and about 50mm long...im gonna get some soma condor bars that have rise as well as flare,and if i like the way it handles i will likely upgrade to a sram gx rear d/shifter/cassette with the paul components bar adapter and run an 11 speed...its my townie bike/i hate to say it anyroad tourer/day tripper....thats the idea anyway..

  31. #2131
    Rednose/Greenback
    Reputation: apbtlvr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    317
    Thanks!


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
    38 54' -77 15

  32. #2132
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    1,645
    got the fargogre out for a bit of a test run and shakedown cruise...tried to put it through what i would consider typical for a multi surface ride around here...went down one of the few stretches of smooth gravel road,pavement,some two track more like the bulk of the "dirt" roads around here,a bit of rocky singletrack,and because no skinny-ish tire ride around here is complete without a wee bit of rim deep sand cause who doesnt like a bit of hike a bike?

    passed all the test...trackstands,no hands,fiddling with water bottle one hand on the bars,bunny hopping,danger birding....

    nothing off about the handling you wouldnt expect from having a rack and basket on the front,or directly from the tires having a pronounced center ridge ...

    did well everywhere really...seemed pretty stable,no squirminess from low speed climbing,nothing unexpected really...


    surly ogre-img_20170608_104850688.jpgsurly ogre-img_20170608_104859166.jpgsurly ogre-img_20170608_110219683.jpgsurly ogre-img_20170608_110224577.jpg

  33. #2133
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    219
    Please note, I'm not really a mountain biker, just a fitness bike rider, so my skills aren't top notch or at all impressive.

    For some strange reason I decided to upgrade my ice cream truck ops brakes to XT last fall before the snow hit. Really liked the upgrade. Prior to that, I never really had any complaints about the super-cheap ebay hydraulics on my ogre. But I tried taking the Ogre down my backyard trail yesterday, and suddenly I feel like there's an excuse to upgrade.

    Maybe I can go faster once I get more of the pokey's out of the way. And I think I realized for the first time that I need a dropper which isn't going to happen on the ogre.

  34. #2134
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    224
    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    so i made my own...the Fargogre...

    a bit of a hack to get a shifter working for it...the bar end i had is broken or something since i couldnt get it to index properly...if i like this set up i will get the paul components bar adapter dealy and a sram gx shifter/derailleur/cassette and upgrade to 11 speed...
    Nice Faergo.

    I'd look at Gevenalle as well.

    https://gevenalle.com/product/gx/

  35. #2135
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    1,645
    if i go with a gx setup i can always use that if i put the jones bars on it...and then i have the paul adapter if i do anything crazy like slap some drop bars on the new bucksaw and have a new mexico anyroad bike!

  36. #2136
    mtbr member
    Reputation: seat_boy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    2,305
    Will the new Ogre fork clear a 29+ tire? I have a Singular Gryphon fork of similar length that can do it, so I'm guessing yes.

    I really love that non-suspension corrected look on the Ogre, but I'm loath to give up the more flexible tubing and shorter chainstays of my KM.

  37. #2137
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    224
    Quote Originally Posted by seat_boy View Post
    Will the new Ogre fork clear a 29+ tire? I have a Singular Gryphon fork of similar length that can do it, so I'm guessing yes.

    I really love that non-suspension corrected look on the Ogre, but I'm loath to give up the more flexible tubing and shorter chainstays of my KM.
    The KM fork should clear 29x3, so if you're not touring, why even look at the Ogre?

    I'm pretty sure the Ogre fork clears 29x3 as well. Old ones did.

  38. #2138
    mtbr member
    Reputation: dfltroll's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    918

    More trail riding.

    Got out of town late yesterday afternoon and set-up camp at Eightmile Campground in the Mt Hood NF. After I got situated I did a nice little ramble to a fire lookout via a dirt road and then descended on some excellent singletrack. Made some dinner and did some reading until the stars came out. Woke up early, made breakfast and hit the trails. While it was a short trip and was car camping not bikepacking, it was great. I already have a hall pass to do the same thing next week. I'm really enjoying the Ogre and the ETs seem to be working quite well as trail tires. Still, I do want to set-up a dedicated mountain bike, possibly a KM or Wednesday. I need to get motivated and sell some stuff. Here's a few pictures.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails surly ogre-34624581743_64c7661fd2_z.jpg  

    surly ogre-34624583823_93393552af_z.jpg  

    surly ogre-35268043142_8314cd3338_z.jpg  

    surly ogre-35268037942_ed1161259b_z.jpg  

    surly ogre-35268041712_bbf8d8005a_z.jpg  

    surly ogre-35305077061_019c2e6b00_z.jpg  

    All good expeditions should be simple in concept, difficult in their execution and satisfying to remember--Alastair Humphreys

  39. #2139
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    360
    Hi mate that looks like a great place to ride stella weather as well.

    Spotted a guy rolling through town this afternoon on an Ogre, such a well proportioned bike just looks right.

    OZ.

  40. #2140
    mtbr member
    Reputation: milliesand's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Posts
    333
    Ordered mine today.

Page 22 of 22 FirstFirst ... 121819202122

Similar Threads

  1. I am an Ogre!
    By Dalton in forum Commuting
    Replies: 24
    Last Post: 06-03-2012, 12:22 PM
  2. Ogre vs Yeti
    By adubb25 in forum Yeti
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 03-31-2011, 06:37 PM
  3. Oops I did it again (This time in Ogre Green)
    By Ogre in forum California - Norcal
    Replies: 39
    Last Post: 05-02-2008, 08:16 AM
  4. Ogre Dung!
    By Joseph-da-trog in forum California - Norcal
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 06-07-2006, 08:36 PM
  5. A Big Thank You From Ogre & Fiona
    By Ogre in forum Passion
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 06-29-2005, 07:24 AM

Members who have read this thread: 189

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •