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    Stripped, Oiled, Waxed

    Well, I've been sick and the rain has finally come, so I stripped the Ogre for a good oiling and waxing.
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    Got a question...

    Making me feel like a bad owner what with the loving oil bath you're treating your Ogre to - my baby is certainly due. Need a little help...the only piece of bike packing kit i'm missing is a frame bag (for a 24") and I came across a 22"Pugs/Moonlander revelate on Amazon, easy to find with search(I don't have enough posts to link yet) and I've looked over the dimensions and just can't convince myself to pull the trigger but it doesn't seem that far off. Only reason I'm considering it is b/c I have an Amazon gift card. Someone tell me I'm being silly, one way or the other.

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    Would the pugs bag not be too wide (not to mention probably the wrong shape?) as i thought they flared out at the front?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbryant2 View Post
    Well, I've been sick and the rain has finally come, so I stripped the Ogre for a good oiling and waxing.
    The only bad thing about linseed oil is that it takes about 3/4 days to dry. Be patient!

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    Don't you people have wives? If you don't let it rust, how do you justify buying another one in a few years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    Don't you people have wives? If you don't let it rust, how do you justify buying another one in a few years?
    I have the opposite problem: my wife's an enabler.

    The Ogre is 150% of the budget I set for a new bike, but apparently the money isn't much and it will make me happy.

    We have the weirdest arguments.

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    TPR CX 8.4 V brake in rear?

    I can get a non disc rohloff. Can I use this brake TPR CX 8.4. What flat bar mtn levers can I use?

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    here's a link to your brakes TRP

    I Like Paul Love levers - never a regret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    Don't you people have wives? If you don't let it rust, how do you justify buying another one in a few years?
    Buy all your bikes in the same colour and she'll think you only have a few bikes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renruthsoj View Post
    Making me feel like a bad owner what with the loving oil bath you're treating your Ogre to - my baby is certainly due. Need a little help...the only piece of bike packing kit i'm missing is a frame bag (for a 24") and I came across a 22"Pugs/Moonlander revelate on Amazon, easy to find with search(I don't have enough posts to link yet) and I've looked over the dimensions and just can't convince myself to pull the trigger but it doesn't seem that far off. Only reason I'm considering it is b/c I have an Amazon gift card. Someone tell me I'm being silly, one way or the other.
    Hi Renruthsoj
    If you go to Revelates web site and follow the links to Surly Frame Bags he has a chart with all the bag dimensions.

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    Thanks Dick and Orbital - I've looked over the chart, I was really hoping someone would have hands on experience with the different sizes/frames before i pay for shipping on a gamble. Found a thread that helped a little if anyone else is wondering. forums.mtbr.com/bikepacking-bike-expedition/revelate-frame-bag-compatibility-urly-moo-814323.html

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    Mud Mode

    I shod the Ogre in some NOS Kenda Klaws and took it out in mud mode for a river ride with my new adventure buddy, Duncan. The tires performed quite well on a variety of different terrain.

    (More pictures of Duncan on my blog for those interested.)
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    Happy dog is happy.

    What handlebars have you got on that? The flats aren't great for my commuting.

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    Surly Open Bar. Best handlebar on the market, IMO.

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    Ah! I didn't recognise it with the grips. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbryant2 View Post
    I shod the Ogre in some NOS Kenda Klaws and took it out in mud mode for a river ride with my new adventure buddy, Duncan. The tires performed quite well on a variety of different terrain.

    (More pictures of Duncan on my blog for those interested.)
    As much as I like your bike I like Duncan better.
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    Hi. Noob, here. Thinking about getting my first mountain bike (been riding road for about 8 years) and taking advantage of some of the trails around here. The Ogre is at the top of my list for something I want to build up... proven geometry and versatile (if it turns out I don't like off-road, I can always throw on some Big Apples and a couple racks and have myself an indestructible grocery getter/townie).

    Trying to up my post count so I can start threads and really start annoying everyone with my noob questions.

    Anyway, made it all the way through this thread. Y'alls have some pretty nice rides.

    Oh, hey, first question: Anyone know if there are any differences between '12 and '13 models? I've seen the new frames online and it seems only thing that's changed is color... and I already have a black bike.

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    No changes that I know of, and your reasoning sounds good to me! The geo suits non-technical riding so should be good for your immediate needs

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    Hello all. Another happy owner of an Ogre here. Had it about 5 months now & really enjoying it. I bought it as a utility bike, but it's become a singlespeed mtb instead.

    I might just have to get another

    I'll post up a photo once the forum lets me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BareNecessities View Post
    Hello all. Another happy owner of an Ogre here. Had it about 5 months now & really enjoying it. I bought it as a utility bike, but it's become a singlespeed mtb instead.

    I might just have to get another

    I'll post up a photo once the forum lets me.
    You could get a KM as the SS MTB and have both versions

    Can't wait for my frame to arrive, hope to have it by end of week, ride pics by Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostBoyScout View Post
    You could get a KM as the SS MTB and have both versions
    Nice idea

    I've got the 24" version though & for some reason Surly aren't making the Monkey in that size

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    Right then, here's my British based Ogre to add to the mix.



    It's a bit clean here, as it had only just been built. I keep forgetting to take my camera on rides though

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    ****... that picture makes me want to singlespeed my Ogre, which would not be very practical for my purposes, but still... that just looks like too much fun.

    I guess I miss my singlespeed. Maybe a(nother) KM is in my future...

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    So, stickers on or stickers off?

    The army green frame looks pretty boss totally clean, but the Surly branding is cool too.

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    In my mind, it's stickers off always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbryant2 View Post
    that picture makes me want to singlespeed my Ogre, which would not be very practical for my purposes.
    Probably not wise if you're using it for trailer pulling duties I might be ok with that, as it's flat around where I live. I'm still using my LHT for an everyday working bike at the moment, so I'm in no rush to change.

    I might reconsider once I get around to buying a trailer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BareNecessities View Post
    Right then, here's my British based Ogre to add to the mix.



    It's a bit clean here, as it had only just been built. I keep forgetting to take my camera on rides though
    Hi,

    Where are you bought your 24" Surly ogre ?

    All the best,

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    Quote Originally Posted by lusss View Post
    Hi,

    Where are you bought your 24" Surly ogre ?

    All the best,

    Lucien
    Hi Lucien, I bought my Ogre frameset from Triton Cycles, in the UK.

    SURLY Ogre Frameset :: £386.99 :: Frames & Forks :: Frames - 29ers :: Triton Cycles

    I did have to wait 6 months due to a lack of availability in the 24" size though. Triton only deliver inside the UK & dont be fooled by their "in stock" display on their website, as it's sadly, rarely accurate. If you're in Europe? Then you could order one through Charlie the Bikemonger. A very helpful chap, who has a good reputation.

    Surly Ogre 29er Frame Forks

    Both these shops would order the frame through the UK distributor for Surly, Ison Distribution.

    Ison Distribution

    I see that Ison are showing a 24" Green in stock at the moment. Their stock levels are usually quite accurate.

    If you're based in the US, or elsewhere, then I'm afraid that I don't know.

    Good luck in your quest to obtain one

    Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by BareNecessities View Post
    Hi Lucien, I bought my Ogre frameset from Triton Cycles, in the UK.

    SURLY Ogre Frameset :: £386.99 :: Frames & Forks :: Frames - 29ers :: Triton Cycles

    I did have to wait 6 months due to a lack of availability in the 24" size though. Triton only deliver inside the UK & dont be fooled by their "in stock" display on their website, as it's sadly, rarely accurate. If you're in Europe? Then you could order one through Charlie the Bikemonger. A very helpful chap, who has a good reputation.

    Surly Ogre 29er Frame Forks

    Both these shops would order the frame through the UK distributor for Surly, Ison Distribution.

    Ison Distribution

    I see that Ison are showing a 24" Green in stock at the moment. Their stock levels are usually quite accurate.

    If you're based in the US, or elsewhere, then I'm afraid that I don't know.

    Good luck in your quest to obtain one

    Pete
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    Nice

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    Larger Frame

    I have my new Ogre 22" frame coming on Friday. I will post picks of the build as soon as they are available. I have a great condition 20" Ogre frame up for sale if anyone is interested.
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    took some glamour shots today!






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    I can on the last photo.

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    ?@#$%^ technology!

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    That's a sweet Ogre.

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    Sweet Ogre!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbryant2 View Post
    Sweet Ogre!
    Having secound thoughts on the Pugs?

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    Sorry for the double post y'all. First one timed out but I guess it went through.

    As for the Pugs, yes, I've decided against that plan. Since I'd typically be running skinnier tires, the offset wheelset factor scared me off. I only have the budget to maintain one bike at the moment, rarely see snow here, and like to do long rides, sometimes with upwards of 50 miles of pavement. Ogre still makes the most sense.

    To be honest, when the budget improves I think the Ogre may turn into a Disc Trucker and Karate Monkey. Maybe some day the dedicated fat bike will even be in the cards...
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    Fargo fork on an Ogre?

    Has anyone tried a Fargo fork (V1 or V2) on an Ogre? I've reread through this whole thread and elsewhere on the internet, and while there is some speculation, I have not found anyone who has actually tried it.

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    Funny you mention the Fargo fork... I have been seriously considering a V2 fork, which should work much better with the Ogre geometry than the V1. Just a bit more offset is all. About 200 grams lighter than the Ogre fork, too.

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    And the Fargo fork has forward facing dropouts, which are better if using disc brakes. If you do try it out, please post photos and your impressions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbruton7 View Post
    Has anyone tried a Fargo fork (V1 or V2) on an Ogre? I've reread through this whole thread and elsewhere on the internet, and while there is some speculation, I have not found anyone who has actually tried it.
    A mechanic at Performance Bicycles in the U-District (Seattle) has done exactly this; Fargo V2 fork on a Surly Ogre. Stands out because the paint scheme doesn't match up and there's only 4 or so Ogre's running around Seattle at the moment. He had no issues with handling, and did it for the disk brake thing. The weight decrease was rather nice though.

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    happy with it except for the flat front tire ;D

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    what's up with those additional rack mounts on the fork, right under the crown?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy View Post
    what's up with those additional rack mounts on the fork, right under the crown?
    no freaking idea.

    maybe for 50mm cannons?

    anyways, it is a great ride!

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    I guess those mounts are an addition for 2013, my 2012 didn't had them.
    I have those on my Pugs, they are really cool if you want to mount a rear rack on the fork

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    Christmas for Me!

    Here is my new Ogre build. So far I have made these upgrades to the original bike from parts I had laying around:

    -Planet Bike Fenders
    -PDW rear rack
    - Chris King Headset
    -Thomson seatpost, stem
    -Surly Woodchipper Handlebars with shimano bar end shifters and Cane creek brake levers
    -Broos B-17 narrow
    - Arundel SS bottle cages times 3
    - Shimano A530 pedals

    The next purchase will probably be Schwalbe Big Ben tires then a front rack (probably a Surly), followed by a new front wheel build with generator hub.

    It rides well and fits really well with with the Woodchipper bar set up. I am going to lower the stem about 10 to 15 mm but I will probably leave the steerer tube uncut for future aging.

    I am very happy with it so far.
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    Commute in the Oregon rain.

    Running errands in the rain.
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    Nice bike. Merry Christmas to you indeed!

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    Finally "finished" a bike that I've been designing in my head for the last 3 years, but things have only come good in the last month or so for me to actually start doing this.

    1) Son28 (2012) 32H hub laced with 14G straight gauge Wheelsmith blanks. Straight gauge spokes were selected for their higher availability. They're connected to a Pedalpower+ iUniversal cable and Supernova E3 Triple light.
    2) Revelate Designs frame bag. Inside is a Pedalpower+ v4i battery, tools & a lock.
    3) Rohloff Speedhub (2012) disk brake quick-release axle with external gear mech. I elected to run Delta Axlerodz skewers instead of quick releases as the front hub uses 5mm Allen key heads already and I rather like them, and the existing quick release lever wasn't even close to strong enough.
    4) Chris King NoThreadset headset, Thompson stem, butterfly touring bars plus a nice little SRAM bell mounted behind the stem. I also have the Edge 800 mounted on the stem; with the cut steerer tube it allows me to plug a mini-USB from the Pedalpower+ system in to the charging port of the Edge 800 while still keeping the handlebars totally clear. I can run it almost continually without having to plug it in to a charger, the only issue now being running out of storage space on the device for workouts and possibly a little manual management of power. I also have the v4i battery pack in there, which allows me to charge devices at 700 mA & 5V, which is standard USB output.

    While the system is charging, the Son28's power is split between the two circuits running in parallel (E3 light & v4i battery) which greatly reduces the effectiveness of the system, so I tend to disconnect parts of the circuit during the darker months. For 3 season bikepacking though, this would work really well, especially if at least 3 hours of riding is done with the headlight turned off (that would be enough to charge a standard cellphone ~70%).

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