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    there was a new salsa carbon fiber fat bike in the shop last week...i was impressed by how light it was but i just cant seem to get past the feeling those things are more fragile than they really are...the frame felt like paper mache to me...like i could squeeze it and break it no problem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    there was a new salsa carbon fiber fat bike in the shop last week...i was impressed by how light it was but i just cant seem to get past the feeling those things are more fragile than they really are...the frame felt like paper mache to me...like i could squeeze it and break it no problem...
    That's how I feel about carbon dude! I'd be afraid of breaking a carbon frame, and I don't like the ride. Steel is definitely my material of choice for frames, love the ride and flex! Just didn't like how flexy my steel fork was in high speed corners. I could care less about the weight savings.

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    Hope that fork comes in Charge, and I look forward to the pics of the narrower BB shell. I'm also curious about the drop bar ICT, hamster. I don't remember what group you have on your bike; are you going with bar end shifters?

    I just laced my 29+ front wheel last night, Sun Ringle Duroc 40 to DT350. I accidentally ordered sapim lasers instead of race spokes, so it's taking me a while to get them up to tension. I ended up using a white crayon to make a line down each spoke, so I could see when they start to wrap on me. It works well, but holding the the spoke while tightening takes a lot of time. On the plus side, the shallow rims are super easy to work with, nipples just plop right in.

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    This video changed my views on carbon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xreZdUBqpJs

    Still a steel fan, but carbon isn't scary to me anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlipperyToad View Post
    Hope that fork comes in Charge, and I look forward to the pics of the narrower BB shell. I'm also curious about the drop bar ICT, hamster. I don't remember what group you have on your bike; are you going with bar end shifters?

    I just laced my 29+ front wheel last night, Sun Ringle Duroc 40 to DT350. I accidentally ordered sapim lasers instead of race spokes, so it's taking me a while to get them up to tension. I ended up using a white crayon to make a line down each spoke, so I could see when they start to wrap on me. It works well, but holding the the spoke while tightening takes a lot of time. On the plus side, the shallow rims are super easy to work with, nipples just plop right in.


    i have an xt 11 speed on the ict,im going to use a problem solvers light mount that clamps to the bars to mount the shifter on since the drop out is not sram compatible...for brakes i have some tektro long pull drop bar levers that will work with the bb7s although possibly i may use the trp hylex brakes i have if it feels viable...and if that doesnt work i can take the sram setup i have and try it on the krampus...

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    My LBS is really busy right now, so I likely won't be getting the BB faced for a little while. Just wanted to keep y'all updated

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    why?

    because...

    drop bar ICT...
    woodchipper bars,TRP hylex brakes,problem solver bar mount for the shimano xt shifter...

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    Hamster is going to have *all* the KOMs now.

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    im the king of the low hanging fruit!

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    Awesome!
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    now to go find some slow moving roadies to ride down!

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    Oh la la!

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    ooh,fun,truck goodies!

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    Got some Ti bolts too... my steel ones were getting pretty crusty. Hamster, do you approve of these?

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    It's good to see you put the full Surly crazy to the ICT hamster! I finally got my 29+ wheels built up, just waiting for the Park extensions to show up for the truing stand so I can complete the rear wheel. I went to put it in the stand and realized it wasn't built for a 197 mm rear axle. It's going to be a tough wait for our trails to dry out enough for me to try it out. I guess in the mean time, I'll just try to stay out of hamster's way on my cross bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post
    Got some Ti bolts too... my steel ones were getting pretty crusty. Hamster, do you approve of these?

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    lol,what,no color? that there looks like weight weinie stuff!

    Quote Originally Posted by SlipperyToad View Post
    It's good to see you put the full Surly crazy to the ICT hamster! I finally got my 29+ wheels built up, just waiting for the Park extensions to show up for the truing stand so I can complete the rear wheel. I went to put it in the stand and realized it wasn't built for a 197 mm rear axle. It's going to be a tough wait for our trails to dry out enough for me to try it out. I guess in the mean time, I'll just try to stay out of hamster's way on my cross bike!
    i have a feeling the shifter kludge may be a no go but the bars and trp hylex would work dandy on the krampus as a ss...also i have a 10 speed bar end already so it would probably work better in the long run...
    its fun to play with surlys,its like a lego set...

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    Sarcasm I hope? They are blue! That's why I asked the bling master!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post
    Sarcasm I hope? They are blue! That's why I asked the bling master!
    the internet has been around long enough that there should be a sarcasm font...

    yeah,giving you guff as usual...more of a "blue steel"...going for a zoolander look? lol
    warning...dont go too far down the rabbit hole,i ended up with gobs of spare parts trying to get free shipping on jensonusa orders when all i wanted was 4 dollar valve stem caps!


    just got back from a little test ride on the truck dropper...

    the shifter,not so annoying after all,only slightly awkward...
    the bars passed a big test...was able to bunny hop from the drops and the hoods,the woodchippers are more comfy for me than the soma junebug bars,actually pretty nice in this context...

    i will find out tomorrow....matterhorn has a wee little ride planned for us...i fear he's been looking at google earth again which usually means there will be (un)expected nastiness of some form....be it soul crushingly long hike-a-bikes or thorny bushwhacking im near certain blood will be shed...

    its funny though,even hip-deep in these rides i often find myself thinking "why do so few mountain bikers do this kind of stuff?" it seems like the very essence of mountain biking to me...the uncertainty of it,the willingness to fail,but the spirit to keep going,even when it was clear an hour ago you made a really really dumb choice!

    should be fun...been a while since i rode until i felt like puking!

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    Only reason I asked is one of my colorblind friends actually thought they were black.

    Those bolts were a great price, one of my friends sells them.

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    i would actually buy ti rotor bolts...bling is one thing,but it absolutely needs to be better than whatever it replaced or at least equal...i would rather put something heavier on the bike than have something break...

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    I didn't do it for bling. Honestly, after a year in the midwest the steel bolts are really nasty and corroded. This should take care of the problem.

    I was going to get some chinese Ti bolts, because $40 a wheel for Avid Ti bolts is crazy. These are very high quality European Ti bolts that cost a fraction of the cost.

    Stay away from chinese Ti, they strip out really easy. Actually, stay away from all knockoff bike parts. I wonder what material said knockoff "Ti" really is.

    Hamster, if you need any Ti bolts PM me. I got you

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    i will find out tomorrow....matterhorn has a wee little ride planned for us...i fear he's been looking at google earth again which usually means there will be (un)expected nastiness of some form....be it soul crushingly long hike-a-bikes or thorny bushwhacking im near certain blood will be shed...
    No promises of course but there should be no, or minimal HAB. Really maybe NO HAB at all. Looks like about 41 miles to the petroglyphs but maybe a slightly shorter return trip.

    Can't wait to see that drop bar nonsense in person!

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    Ict

    Had a couple of rides on the new to me ICT and it is a blast although it will probably take me a couple more rides to get really comfortable with the steering.
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    Your bike have Onyx hubs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post
    Your bike have Onyx hubs?
    Yep.

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    You buy that bad boy from Jason?

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    just getting back from a cracker of a ride with matterhorn...that crazy bastard is still out there riding or taking a nap or something...i had had enough of drop bar fat biking for one day at mile 47....i still had 10 or so miles left to get home when i finally cracked..or at least started cramping up bad enough to say fuqit....and i also knew i was not far from a buddy with a pickup truck...

    big country...the 20+ mile approach ride didnt help...it was nice though,got to the meat of the ride just after the sun came up...good ride,nice stout climb to start things out,generally pretty nice dirt roads,then a not so nice descent down an unending series of rocky,sandy,chunky nonsense...but it was sure pretty...aside from the untimely collapse of willpower an awesome day of back country riding...


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post
    You buy that bad boy from Jason?
    Yeah, we actually traded bikes and I swapped out a few parts.

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    Because I'm OCD about color coordination...yellow decal set for the Bluto

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    Looks like quite a ride hamster and Matterhorn - there's nothing quite like that here in Iowa. I finally got done building the wheels for summer. Here's a pic:
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    Oh yeah, they weight 3.2 lbs less than the stock salsa/RD with Jumbo Jims that I had on there. It's like pedaling a road bike now!

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    SlipperyToad--yeah, not quite like Iowa! Where in IA are you?

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    I've been in eastern Iowa most of my 42 years, with the exception of a brief stint in the SF/San Jose area. In Iowa City now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phat Cactus View Post
    Because I'm OCD about color coordination...yellow decal set for the Bluto
    Thank you for sharing.
    Im going to setup a bike like yours by the end of the year, mixing my actual fatbike bluto equipped on a ICT2017 frame.
    And i was wondering how well could the rockshoks yellow decal apply to the fork, replacing my green one.

    I think the result looks excellent.
    GREAT looking BIKE

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    A little urbex with my 'Truck.

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    We will start with the question. I just took the casette off my truck and really had some trouble. Had to hit it with a hammer. Not fun. The casette really tore up my free hub. It is a sram casette on DT big ride hub. Should I buy a shimano casette to stop this?


    On to the exciting bit... I got my 29+ wheels ready to roll! Rabbit holes on Big Rides with a Dirt Wizard up front and a Chronicle out back. Also had put flats and Ergon grips on a bit ago. Sorry for the shit pic but it's been raining all day here so the basement is what we get.



    Editors note: Still need to trim the steer tube. Casette not installed due to first question. Tires were purchased used so they are dirty (no, I don't know how it rides). I need a way to cover the red on the seatpost but haven't found anything good yet.

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    Looks damn nice Tim!

    That is pretty normal for the cassette to tear up the freehub. That is why you run a steel freehub. Or you can invest in a higher end cassette with aluminum carriers. What SRAM cassette do you run?

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    what maxi said...it will still work fine,just a pain to deal with...

    nice truck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChargeCookerMaxi View Post
    Looks damn nice Tim!

    That is pretty normal for the cassette to tear up the freehub. That is why you run a steel freehub. Or you can invest in a higher end cassette with aluminum carriers. What SRAM cassette do you run?

    Not sure what casette is. Would need to look after I leave this brewery... (Never leaving tehe)

    So the DT steel freehub body is $90 and an Xt 10 speed casette is $50. Will the new casette saved new freehub so I don't need to replace two of them?


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    I don't really understand what you are asking Tim. Trying rewriting it when you are less drunk

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    So the damage is already done but you can still put another cassette on it. Or go xd and 11 speed

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    Lol. Whoops.

    I don't want to destroy the freehub on my 29+ wheels (similar to the pic from my fat wheels (see above)) with the sram casette if a shimano will be fine as the new freehub is $40 more than the new casette. Would the shimano casette actually be easier on the freehub?


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    Depends. If you get a cassette with aluminum carriers, yes. If not, no. I'd just get a steel freehub if I were you. It will last longer than an expensive cassette.

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    Question for those of you that have a set of 29+ tires. What fat and 29+ tires do you run and what is the change in BB hight?

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    im running bont barbegazis for fat and wtb ranger tough for 29+,ive run the maxxis minions
    and chronicles as well...the minions i didnt like for the desert,the barbies are a better tire i think,maybe not as tough as the minions,but they also dont go shooting off to one side everytime you run over a rock...the chronicles do fine in the dirt but pull too much on the road,the rangers do better overall...

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    I'm running the rangers in the tough casing too. They are pretty much identical in height to the Jumbo Jim 4.8s I had on the RD rims, I don't really notice any difference in bb height. The bike is just a hell of a lot easier to haul uphill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlipperyToad View Post
    I'm running the rangers in the tough casing too. They are pretty much identical in height to the Jumbo Jim 4.8s I had on the RD rims, I don't really notice any difference in bb height. The bike is just a hell of a lot easier to haul uphill.
    Good to know - thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noosa2 View Post
    Question for those of you that have a set of 29+ tires. What fat and 29+ tires do you run and what is the change in BB hight?
    Dirt wizard up front. Chronicle out back. Pretty similar height to my bud and Lou.


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    Hello Ice Cream Truck drivers! I'm a new ICT owner. Got a quick question about the rear brake. It's the stock SRAM Guide brake. The brake caliper appears to be a millimeter or two too high. You can see the top edge of the pads are above the brake disc in the photo below. Is this a problem? I can adjust the caliper position fore and aft, but not up and down. The only thing I can think of to fix this would be to shave a bit off the caliper mount adapter. Any other suggestions?


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    perhaps the adapter is flipped around, aka installed improperly. or maybe it's the wrong adapter. or the wrong rotor? probably best to figure out what's out of place instead of "shaving" anything and putting a band-aid on an improper setup.

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