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    Surly of the Future...

    So, with all the marketing hype that is drawing attention in the Santa Cruz forum I thought I might start some speculation in the Surly section of MTBR.

    I was reading the Surly BlogHole the other day and came across this quote:

    Skoglund is our newest product engineer. He always wears flip-flops and drives a VW Eurovan. He gave me a ride in it once. He is currently working on a tire and a frame that you might like. If only I could tell you about them.
    Now, my first thought is a 650B, but I imagine that Surly has more creativity than that, after all these guys make the big-bucks doing bike stuff. So, I thought I'd share my discovery with you guys and see what your thoughts are.

    What is coming down the chute from Surly?

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    650B touring single speed fat bike?
    "You don't need a lighter bike, you need bigger muscles"

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    Quote Originally Posted by zuk88 View Post
    650B touring single speed fat bike?
    650B+ recumbent?

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    No clue, but curious to find out

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    I'd be psyched for a less expensive, Kevlar-reinforced endo or even a 3-3.5" all-around tire, and a fat-tire-ready cargo bike.

    Folks have been after a disc-check for a while.

    Tire could be another 700c X 3" offering.

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    people have wanted a disc crosscheck for quite some time.....

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    36er?

    Krampus trike?

    Fat tyred ( or 'tired' for you guys ) Big Dummy?

    36er? ( ok, I'd really like to see a 36er )

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy View Post
    people have wanted a disc crosscheck for quite some time.....
    I think there's no way around it this year. I would not be the least bit surprised if Surly released a disc version of the CC. Or maybe they'll do a whole new frame and tire aimed at the gravel market. I can't imagine them doing another mountain bike. I guess we'll know in 5 or 6 months.
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    fat-tire unicycle
    dirt jump bike

    oh, they already did that. what happened to those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy View Post
    people have wanted a disc crosscheck for quite some time.....
    this
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    Re: Surly of the Future...

    I agree, gonna happen.

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    Hopefully more frame versions with S&S couplings eg Disk Trucker & Ogre.
    (Yeah I know they do the standard LHT with couplings but I couldnt settle for no disks)
    That would have made my frame purchase decision so much easier (I ended up going Ogre).
    An S&S Krampus with all the Ogre rack options would have given pause for thought as well.
    When my Ogres finished being built, if I enjoy it then I'll get the couplings added myself.
    I really would have liked the option from the factory though as it would have saved a lot of time.

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    Hopefully it's something I have no interest in or use for. I can't afford another bike...
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    I want a 4" Schwalbe marathon or similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    fat-tire unicycle
    dirt jump bike

    oh, they already did that. what happened to those?
    Unicycle didn't sell well got terminated.
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    650B long haul truckers for the european market
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight View Post
    650B long haul truckers for the european market
    Hi DeeEight, does the Disk Trucker not cater for those wanting that size wheel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rifraf View Post
    Hi DeeEight, does the Disk Trucker not cater for those wanting that size wheel?
    I believe you can fit 650B wheels and 42mm tires easily into a Disc Trucker, I've seen it done on a Pacer but with 38mm tires. I'm looking into a extra set of wheels and a 650B disc wheelset might be nice for my 700c DT.
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    650b road/touring/randonneuring bikes probably aren't much more popular in Europe than they are here. France gets credit for keeping it alive and Grant Petersen & Jan Heine get credit for helping to revitalize it here. Soma is gonna be doing a production 650b randonneuring frame later this year. Sure, I'd love to see Surly do one but I seriously doubt they will. I'm telling you, there'll either be a disc CC or a gravel bike with discs.
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    Re: Surly of the Future...

    Surly does seem to like beards a lot so I am guessing the next bike will be a recumbent. Maybe they will call it the Surly Professor.

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    Saw the new bike locked up in Minneapolis. It's cool but if I tell you any more the Croatian Bear will get upset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skrnygphr View Post
    Saw the new bike locked up in Minneapolis.
    That is soooooo f&#ked up. I guess we'll all be in on the secret in 4 or 5 months.
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    Would you care to give a relative location in Minneapolis so I can roll around and try surlying? I don't know who you're talkin bout, but I could find some bear repellent in my camping gear... I would be interested in finding out. I know someone at a LBS who has a fat tire Dummy. I was told it is a one-off, but boy that thing is cool. It's not that ride is it?

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    I'd be interested to see them change the KM frameset so it has a taller headtube and slacker headtube angle

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbhammercycle View Post
    Would you care to give a relative location in Minneapolis so I can roll around and try surlying? I don't know who you're talkin bout, but I could find some bear repellent in my camping gear... I would be interested in finding out. I know someone at a LBS who has a fat tire Dummy. I was told it is a one-off, but boy that thing is cool. It's not that ride is it?
    It was locked up outside of Merlin's.

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-C...16638368482640

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    Would definitely be cool to see a klunker from Surly!

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    Surly Prototype?

    Seen in PDX. Guess someone out here is assisting with R&D of the new Surly. Looks like a winner. Hopefully they'll do a fat version that will be compatible with IGHs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfltroll View Post
    Seen in PDX. Guess someone out here is assisting with R&D of the new Surly. Looks like a winner. Hopefully they'll do a fat version that will be compatible with IGHs.
    Man I love the old school single track racer. Do fatties fit fine?

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    I need to find 2 more endos before they sell out to finish my lawnmower/snowblower

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    Ta da! Want it!
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    Maybe it is just me, but could it be a 650b bike?

    The on the street shots look like 700c wheels with not much clearance under the fork crown. While the second post of them hanging shows some pretty knobby offroadish tires. Either way looks rad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pastpost View Post
    Maybe it is just me, but could it be a 650b bike?

    The on the street shots look like 700c wheels with not much clearance under the fork crown. While the second post of them hanging shows some pretty knobby offroadish tires. Either way looks rad!
    The street tires are 700x45 and i think the knobby ones are a 700x40something Knard tire.

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    This one is looking good!

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    It's official. They made a Salsa Fargo and called it The Straggler. 29r mountain tire clearance on a drop bar bike. Always a fun ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdan View Post
    It's official. They made a Salsa Fargo and called it The Straggler. 29r mountain tire clearance on a drop bar bike. Always a fun ride.
    I dunno, looks more like just a disc cross-check than a Fargo. Regardless, it'll be rad and I want one. My old cross-check is showing its age. Ironically, I was going to strip it down and paint it metallic purple this winter. This will save me the trouble!

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    It should be called the sparkle pony. That would be a better name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willapajames View Post
    I dunno, looks more like just a disc cross-check than a Fargo. Regardless, it'll be rad and I want one. My old cross-check is showing its age. Ironically, I was going to strip it down and paint it metallic purple this winter. This will save me the trouble!
    Ah, you're right. I thought those were some 2" tires on there but I can see now they aren't that big. Cool bike though.

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    I will almost certainly buy one. and if it comes in this color, I promise to have stickers custom cut that say exactly that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by backcountryeti View Post
    It should be called the sparkle pony. That would be a better name.
    Sparkle-Pony! That could well be the best model name since Karate-Monkey. If I ever repaint my Pugs it's definitely getting Sparkle-Pony decals ;^)

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    Quote Originally Posted by backcountryeti View Post
    It should be called the sparkle pony. That would be a better name.
    +10 - agreed...
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    So we are all agreed a name change is in order?

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    Hell yeah agreed. Sparkle Pony FTW!!!

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    Would love a tapered head tube on a Karate Monkey, it's the only thing stopping me pulling the trigger at the moment, it's just getting progressively harder to get forks...

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    I would love to see even if I'd never get a chance to ride them or if they are remotely possible geometry wise. Excuse my current fatter-the-better-tyre obsession.

    Straggler/Long Haul/Check with 3.0+ tyres

    A folding bike or 20" wheel thingy/Cannodale Hooligan type = Surly Miscreant/Reprobate

    A Fat Trike with some sort of xtracycle type cargo behind

    Fat Dummy

    Some sort of Surly Pedersen-style bike with room for at least 2.0+ tyres on it.

    A fat tyre similar to Big Ben or Schwalbe Marathon/Mondial tread

    A 35mm/45mm rim.

    A Fat 29er.

    And the more ridiculous, why not a fat penny-farthing?

    Perhaps some sort of recumbent (and of course I can't let off saying possibly even fat?)

    Not that I'd be able to afford or find space for any of the above. But wow would the world look fun with all those bouncing around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilburtron View Post
    I would love to see even if I'd never get a chance to ride them or if they are remotely possible geometry wise. Excuse my current fatter-the-better-tyre obsession.

    Straggler/Long Haul/Check with 3.0+ tyres

    A folding bike or 20" wheel thingy/Cannodale Hooligan type = Surly Miscreant/Reprobate

    A Fat Trike with some sort of xtracycle type cargo behind

    Fat Dummy

    Some sort of Surly Pedersen-style bike with room for at least 2.0+ tyres on it.

    A fat tyre similar to Big Ben or Schwalbe Marathon/Mondial tread

    A 35mm/45mm rim.

    A Fat 29er.

    And the more ridiculous, why not a fat penny-farthing?

    Perhaps some sort of recumbent (and of course I can't let off saying possibly even fat?)

    Not that I'd be able to afford or find space for any of the above. But wow would the world look fun with all those bouncing around.
    A 3" cross bike sounds silly and not practical. 50mm tires are fun, but if you really want bigger, just get a MTB and put drops on it or whatever.

    The Fat Dummy is coming: An Even Bigger Dummy | Blog | Surly Bikes.

    They have the Krampus already, and if you want 4" 29er, I think you are running into "bikes only for tall people" problems.

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