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    ... and if we just ... So...which Surly are you getting for 2013?

    What Surly do you want this year and why?

    I have been drooling over the Krampus since it was released. It looks like such a fun bike that's very capable at the same time. I just can't decide whether I want to build up a frame or wait for a complete. I'm also thinking about getting a road bike, just not sure which one yet...Pacer or Cross Check...so what're you thinking?
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    I just started building up my 2013 Troll to join my 2011 Pugsley. It'll be the 4th Surly I've owned.
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    I like that purple so much I almost considered selling my '12 1x1 frameset and replacing it with the '13 Troll

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    Pictures do the purple no justice, it's so rad.
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    I'm waiting for my Big Dummy to arrive at the local shop. I ordered a complete although I'll swap out the saddle and bars for stuff I have laying around, a Brooks and Surly Open Bars. It should see a lot of mileage this fall and winter. I'll most likely say goodbye to my CC. Perhaps next year I'll part with my 700c LHT for a 26" wheeled Disc Trucker.
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    A NOS Big Dummy in army green. Going to be my winter semifat bike, for starters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfltroll View Post
    ...Perhaps next year I'll part with my 700c LHT for a 26" wheeled Disc Trucker.
    What's your reasoning for swapping for a 26" wheel vs. a 700c wheel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasquatch rides a SS View Post
    What's your reasoning for swapping for a 26" wheel vs. a 700c wheel?
    I'd like to be able to run a bigger tired and stronger wheel. I kinda like that it's odd while still functional. Maybe set it up with an Open Bar as an "updated" homage to the XO-1.
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    I just want a Big Fat Dummy, but they still arenít offering one.
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    Semi Fat will suit me just fine. Some 2.5" Nevagals on a nice wide rim. Even though I live where we get severe winters, fat bikes are just too narrowly focused for me. For now.....

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    Surly needs to do a 29er Dummy that can be paired with a Salsa Enabler fork.
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    Well if they're gonna go 29'er Dummy, why not just go 29+" Dummy

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    necro pugs and a pacer for me this year, krampus next year. that should round out my big dummy, karate monkey, steamroller collection.

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    An uber sexy robins egg blue CrossCheck for cross season set up singlespeed and tubeless!

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    Started looking for a used Ogre frame/fork, but if I can't find one for a reasonable price I'll just go new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sasquatch rides a SS View Post
    What Surly do you want this year and why?
    I could dream up a lot of Surly builds I would like, but I won't be buying any in 2013. I just sold one of my Surly fleet and I'm pondering selling another.
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    Contemplating a 1x1 frame, but that might turn into another Troll...
    I think I could do something with any of their frames though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    I could dream up a lot of Surly builds I would like, but I won't be buying any in 2013. I just sold one of my Surly fleet and I'm pondering selling another.
    Which did one did you sell and what's the other one you might sell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfltroll View Post
    Which did one did you sell and what's the other one you might sell?
    I sold my oldest LHT a 700c model. I've got 3 Surly bikes left - a 26" wheeled LHT, Big Dummy and a Pugsley. I'm keeping the Pugsley for sure. We've also got a Cross Check that's my GF's daily commuter - it's not going anywhere.

    I'd love to try a Krampus one of these days, but at the moment I need cash more than I need a fleet of bikes in the garage.

    This isn't any statement about Surly. They are one of my favourite bike brands. Besides not working full time this year I moved from a downtown apartment in a big city to a house on an underpopulated island and I'm now in the 'burbs of a much smaller town. Instead of living 2hrs from MTB trails I live 15mins from them and have a ton of logging roads to tour on. That means my FS MTB and my hardtail are being used something like 10 to 1 vs. my road going bikes.
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    I'm thing that it's going to be either the CC or LHT. I've got a 2011 Pacer set up as pure road bike with a Tiagra group which it great for some rides but I'd love to something to take leisurely weekend rides. My goal is a all surly fleet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacer1 View Post
    I'm thing that it's going to be either the CC or LHT. I've got a 2011 Pacer set up as pure road bike with a Tiagra group which it great for some rides but I'd love to something to take leisurely weekend rides. My goal is a all surly fleet.
    Really, how about a 29er or a MTB?
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    Well because I really like either the CC or LHT. Not sure what a 29er will give that other don't, they seem to be more of a mountain type which I am to old to do. I'm looking to get away and see things that I can't while in the car or riding fast.

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    Sorry, I didn't quite get that. You are too old to do what?






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    Now that the Troll has acqiured the extra braze-ons I will be getting one ASAP, to be built up with a Rohloff hub for touring.

    The Krampus also looks really good. I've been looking at fatbikes since the Pugsley first appeared, but cannot get past the 100mm BB shell and massive Q. It looks to me like the Krampus would do most of the same stuff while not being an ergonomic disaster (for me), and I'm not likely to do any/much snow or deep sand riding as I"d rather go XC skiing in the frst instance, and am not fond of deserts in the second. For the typical sandstone around here (mostly hardpack wth sand patches at times) the Krampus would likely kill it, and the bigger wheels should mean less need for susension, so less $ for maintenance.

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    Beautiful.

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    Placed the order and paid this morning for a KM.

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    I would like a purple troll frame but the frames' versatility is the petard that is hoisting them, I am just going to be rearranging the existing fleet for a while and that will take most of my available free time...

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    troll complete...just waiting on the release of the new colors. Counting the days....day after day......hour after hour....browsing the forums endlessly to live vicariously through the lives of other troll owners.....

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    Krampus Dreaming

    Was lusting after a Disc-Trucker for a city/commuting rig but then along comes the Krampus and I can't get it out of my head. The complete looks good with maybe a Jones loop bar and a 9x1 thumbie upgrade (downgrade?) down the track. Just the small matter of magicing-up some money to pay for it!

    My Cross-Check is supposed to be my "road" bike but I'm doing a lot of trail riding on it as I can travel further distances than on my SS Pug. For that reason it rarely sees skinny tyres or a rack and I haven't even bothered with the fenders it needs for street riding in rainy old Auckland. With a Krampus (or Ogre - damn you Surly) I could streetify the Cross-Check permanently.

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    Placed my pre-order for a Krampus complete build. Now, waiting and waiting and waiting ('til March).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesusburger View Post
    . With a Krampus (or Ogre - damn you Surly) I could streetify the Cross-Check permanently.
    Would you see the Krampus displacing your Pug? I can't imagine the Krampus outperforming my Pug on the sand or snow that I do throw at it, but that is basically only a couple weeks out of the year and a Krampus might be close enough for those weeks and more I don't know skinny than the pug for the remaining weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
    Would you see the Krampus displacing your Pug? I can't imagine the Krampus outperforming my Pug on the sand or snow that I do throw at it, but that is basically only a couple weeks out of the year and a Krampus might be close enough for those weeks and more I don't know skinny than the pug for the remaining weeks.
    No way, that Pugsley is the best bike I've ever owned! I bought it in 2006 and apart from dropping the dingle set-up for pure singlespeed the only things I've changed are the grips and pedals. Marge Lites and 3.8 Knards would make it an even better trail-bike but it's almost perfect for what I use it for (beach/trails/urban), just a bit porky.

    I'm dreaming anyway, can't really afford a new bike...

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    Hardy...
    I am a fatbike rider (Salsa Mukluk 2), and I am buying the Krampus based on all the reviews I have read... it's fast, and can tear up a rooty single track/rough terrain. I have a feeling it might do well aired down on hardpack sand, but I don't see it as a replacement for my Muk. Thankfully I have enough room in the garage for all my bikes. I am now a lifer fat biker.
    I don't think Surly designed the Krampus to displace Fat Bikes. She seems to be a different beast entirely. But if you only ride a your fat bike a couple weeks a year, I could see a Krampus replacing it. However, if you are in a position to do so, keep your Pugs and get a Krampus.

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    Jesusburger... beauty Pugs! Love the color.

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    I love those older colors. I know it's not a "2013" Surly, but if I ran across a green 1x1 frameset or a purple Pugsley frameset in my size this year, I'd probably buy it

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    1x1 and powdercoat and if I stumble upon some more money a disc trucker, the idea of touring is pretty cool

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    I will be getting an Ogre in OD green (always liked that color ever since I saw it on the GT Peace 9r SS).
    Also getting a complete Krampus when it comes out next year. They will keep my Pugs company!
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    i get to go to the LBS tomorrow(in about 12 hours) and assemble my Neck Romancer Pug......the owner of the shop is a great guy and when asked if i could borrow a few tools, he insisted i just build it there.....gotta love that kind of relationship

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasquatch rides a SS View Post
    I love those older colors. I know it's not a "2013" Surly, but if I ran across a green 1x1 frameset or a purple Pugsley frameset in my size this year, I'd probably buy it
    Just get a Troll in purple.
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    I was hoping to collect my KM frame this morning and build up the bike this weekend but a truck drivers strike has meant the frame hasn't been delivered to my local post office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Thug View Post
    I was hoping to collect my KM frame this morning and build up the bike this weekend but a truck drivers strike has meant the frame hasn't been delivered to my local post office.
    Am I missing something? Who's on strike now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CS2 View Post
    Am I missing something? Who's on strike now?
    It's our truck drivers here in South Africa.

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    I'm still rocking my 12 year old cross check but if surly ever makes a disc cross check ill be buying one right away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilikebmx999 View Post
    I'm still rocking my 12 year old cross check but if surly ever makes a disc cross check ill be buying one right away.
    That's why I'm really torn between a Raleigh Roper and a CC. The Roper has disc brakes. The CC is a much more versatile bike though. Plus I'm really not thrilled with a BB30 bottom bracket. I'm still using square taper on all my bikes.
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    I purchased a Big Dummy a few weeks ago. I had been threatening to do so for years and finally everything came together to get one. I'm really happy I got it and have been riding it a ton even when I'm not running a load.

    I'd love to get a 26" wheeled Disc Trucker but it's much more of a want than a need. My 700c LHT is just fine.

    I'll definitely be picking up a Moloko Bar when they're available.
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    Stock Karate Monkey in black.

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    I started the build of a black KM a while back, but that has been on hold because of financial issues (i keep blowing my money on other things)
    And i was close to pre-ordering a krampus frameset.
    But 2 days ago, when i took of my frambag, i discovered i had wrecked my Pugsley in a crash 2.5 weeks ago.
    So now i am looking for an older model Pugsley frame, because it was my main ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabies010 View Post
    I started the build of a black KM a while back, but that has been on hold because of financial issues (i keep blowing my money on other things)
    And i was close to pre-ordering a krampus frameset.
    But 2 days ago, when i took of my frambag, i discovered i had wrecked my Pugsley in a crash 2.5 weeks ago.
    So now i am looking for an older model Pugsley frame, because it was my main ride.
    their is a 2012 white pugs frame on EBAY now for $399. it is ending in a few days, being sold by a bike shop, i talked to the guy.

    but i prepay for a 2013 red pugs instead the bike shop say`s nov 25 is my ship date.

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    '13 1x1, 14" Cash Black of Course, I'm supposed to go pick it up this week, my preferred shop called last night to tell me it came in a little earlier than expected.

    Not sure how I'll build it up, maybe a commuter since I plan on keeping my '05 1x1 intact for now.

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    Big Dummy for me. It'll be my first "real" bike. My current bike is a POS Mongoose that I bought 10 years ago while I was in college and BROKE. Trying to commute by bike more.

    I am now dreaming of a LHT or CC as a commuter.... but I'll probably be using the dummy for a while. Maybe in 2014 I can get something new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winginit View Post
    their is a 2012 white pugs frame on EBAY now for $399. it is ending in a few days, being sold by a bike shop, i talked to the guy.

    but i prepay for a 2013 red pugs instead the bike shop say`s nov 25 is my ship date.
    White, red, yellow, and black are the newer frame style with the lower TT, and i am looking for a 2010 or older.
    But, i may have a lead on a NOS 2010 frame.

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    New Krampus and Steamroller to roll faster in the city.

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    Does anyone know if a Rabbit Hole rim with a Knard 29 3.0 will fit between a KM fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Thug View Post
    Does anyone know if a Rabbit Hole rim with a Knard 29 3.0 will fit between a KM fork?
    I'm not sure, but you can't fit the rear. So, why changing the front wheel with something bigger and different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Thug View Post
    Does anyone know if a Rabbit Hole rim with a Knard 29 3.0 will fit between a KM fork?
    Surly has said yes to this on the KM and Ogre forks.



    Quote Originally Posted by Iron_sparthan View Post
    I'm not sure, but you can't fit the rear. So, why changing the front wheel with something bigger and different?
    While it's not my thing some folks enjoy the increased traction and passive suspension benefits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    Surly has said yes to this on the KM and Ogre forks.

    While it's not my thing some folks enjoy the increased traction and passive suspension benefits.
    Thanks vikb

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron_sparthan View Post
    I'm not sure, but you can't fit the rear. So, why changing the front wheel with something bigger and different?
    To give that added little extra plushness which is sometimes needed on a rigid steel fork.

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    I have a Krampus on order. It'll be my first Surly, and I'm hoping it will fill the role of a general-purpose geared MTB in my collection. Currently I have a Fargo, a Mukluk, and a SS hardtail. I can't really see getting rid of any of those and I think the Krampus will be more versatile in that lineup than a more traditional MTB.

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    Still not 100% sure I'll be adding a new bike to the basement next year but if I do it'd be a Krampus complete build or a Crosscheck set up single speed.
    In 2012 I added two (a Moonlander and a Pacer) so I'm pretty well set for road and winter riding...

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    Necromancer Pug and upgrading with the moloko bar

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    Surly Necromancer

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    I ordered a Pugsley from my LBS last month and I've been told it's coming in next week. This will be my first fat bike so I'm looking forward to getting it built up. Just in time for fall riding too.

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    The Krampus and Robins Egg Blue CC both tempt me hard. I rode the Krampus out in Utah, and now there are Demos coming to my work next week, things could get tempting....

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    i might get the krampus frame/fork + knard tires only

    i've got two 35mm wide wheelsets (velocity p35 and salsa gordo) and i'm pretty sure the knard 3.0 tires will fit them

    not really sure if i can use my salsa semi 30mm rims for the knard tire, though, i've got silver salsa semi 29er rims laced to surly fixed/ disc hubs and i think it will be awesome if i can build up a fixed-gear krampus someday
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    Just bought a black CC frameset in 60cm from Universal. I hoping that Im not going over my head in frame size....but the bikesdirect CX bike that I have now is a 58 and is a little too small for me. My plan is to swap most of the parts over and sell the old frame on craigslist for cheap. Also going with Salsa cowbell bars.

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    Just ordered a Robins Egg Blue (hopefully) CC here - replacing an old hybrid frame I've had for years, will be for commuting / light touring - bikepacking with the family / general use / road rides with some mates.

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    I just got back from a vacation in the Florida Panhandle. Spent some time running an Electra with child seat through the East Lake trail of Pt. Washington forest. First time I've ridden on sand.... the first thought that I had was: THIS is why the Pugsley exists. Wow. I'd love to ride a pugs through there.

    Sadly, I have two daughters, and am currently waiting on my Dummy. That'll be my only bike for now. And an LHT or other commuter bike is probably next. No need for a pugs up here in Chicagoland commuting.

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    Having ridden both a 1x1 (8,000+ milesó3,000 of them in singlespeed mode!!!) and a Pugsley (1,410 miles), Iím leaning toward a Moonlander. Iíve since ridden 1,800+ miles on my 9:zero:7 fatbike but I believe the extra girth of the 26"x4.8" Surly Bud and Lou offerings would complement the terrain I ride on (as well as my riding style). I am still trying to justify buying another bike.
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    Have a Krampus frame/fork/knard/rh set on the way. Probably built up as a SS. Anxious to see how well the 3" tires do on snow around here vs the 4" on the Mukluk. If its even close, the Muk will go away.
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    Got a 2013 karate monkey on order. Picking it up on Friday. Safety scissors blue. Seriously though, how could you not buy a bike called a Karate Monkey?

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    I took delivery of '13 Moonlander on Saturday. Spent the weekend rolling over the freshly dug up cornfields grinning like an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haloblue View Post
    Got a 2013 karate monkey on order. Picking it up on Friday. Safety scissors blue. Seriously though, how could you not buy a bike called a Karate Monkey?

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    They're rad, you won't regret your purchase.

    But that being said, I really want a krampus like bad...
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    I'm currently agonizing over whether to get an Ogre or LHT.

    Ogre:
    - dedicated mount for my dog trailer
    - better for offroad adventures
    - better fit with flat bar (which I'll use either way)

    LHT:
    - classic looks
    - 26" wheels fit me well at 5'8"
    - bit faster on the road

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    LBS while my LHT is my most awesomest do-it-all bike I do wonder about if a troll would be do-it-all-ier. Especially a purple one.

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    HardyW, your input could be what tips me over to the Ogre. It does make more sense (and I'll keep my eyes open for a used LHT as a beater down the road)

    I'd probably go Troll everything else being equal (love the eggplant) but I have a really nice 29er wheelset and tires already. I do like the green a lot too.

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    I know what I want, but what I want and what my wife will not even come close to letting me buy are the exact same thing...... a bike. If I could.... Moonlander, but more realistically, I want a Pug. I think it would go well with my Ogre.
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    Thinking of converting the front end on my instigator to fat and really contemplating a karate monkey frame fork and moving parts onto it from my steamroller and running it fixed as a commuter and later get a 29er wheelset. I am digging the gunship gray km...

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    this is one nice bike!!!!!

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    I just can't stop looking/drooling at this picture. What a nice looking bike! I want a Yellow pugsley in the worst way, but the black is nice as well. With three kids and two surlys (ss KM and a pacer) I won't be getting a new surly anytime soon, but dreaming sure is nice!

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    ^ I completely agree, I have no need for another bike but I like looking/drooling over fat bikes myself. A little dreaming never hurt.

    Some of the best looking bikes are over in the picture threads in the Fat Bikes - Mtbr Forums subforum.

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    I heard back from Surly the other day...I missed my chance to order a Krampus frameset, at least for now they say. That's a shame, too, I already have most of the parts for the build. They say more frames will be available in the spring when the completes go for sale. I'm going to pre-order as soon as I get the chance this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasquatch rides a SS View Post
    I heard back from Surly the other day...I missed my chance to order a Krampus frameset, at least for now they say. That's a shame, too, I already have most of the parts for the build. They say more frames will be available in the spring when the completes go for sale. I'm going to pre-order as soon as I get the chance this time.
    Damn, this sucks, I was thinking about contacting them to see if I could get a frameset.

    I might just get teh complete tho, but either way this bike is gonna be friggin cool. can't wait!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    ^ I completely agree, I have no need for another bike but I like looking/drooling over fat bikes myself. A little dreaming never hurt.
    Ditto, I actually tried to get a 2013 Muk complete in orange but they were out. I don't even ride in the snow or sand often and I like suspension for my MTBing, so it was a stretch to justify (was going to build a 29er wheelset to go with it). I just have an irrational love for them.

    Instead I'm swapping all my Salsa Vaya parts onto a Ogre frameset, which is a more practical version of an all-surface adventure rig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasquatch rides a SS View Post
    I heard back from Surly the other day...I missed my chance to order a Krampus frameset, at least for now they say. That's a shame, too, I already have most of the parts for the build. They say more frames will be available in the spring when the completes go for sale. I'm going to pre-order as soon as I get the chance this time.
    This is your chance to go full fat...

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    Just recently built up my Karate Monkey and after looking at the Black Sheep fat tyred bike at the Single Speed World Championships, I now have my eye on the Pugsley Necromancer.

    But as we don't have snow nor am I close to the coast it will be used purely on local dirt terrain. So the decision I need to make is, will it replace a 160mm Titus El Guapo or in addition to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabies010 View Post
    This is your chance to go full fat...
    Yeah, I wish Krampus is more my style, though. (full-fat has crossed my mind a time or ten this week).

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    You know that 29+ will also fit on a Pugs, right ?

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    I know this I'm just choosing not to hear it from you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabies010 View Post
    You know that 29+ will also fit on a Pugs, right ?
    eh, but the geo isn't the same.
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    Sssst, don't let Sassy find out....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasquatch rides a SS View Post
    I heard back from Surly the other day...I missed my chance to order a Krampus frameset, at least for now they say. That's a shame, too, I already have most of the parts for the build. They say more frames will be available in the spring when the completes go for sale. I'm going to pre-order as soon as I get the chance this time.
    Man, and I thought having to wait Oct to Nov for my dummy was way too long (crosses fingers). Not until the spring? Seems a shame to be out-of-stock right before the holiday season.

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    Well ordered an Ogre today, nothing visually different from a 2012 but that isn't a bad thing in this case.

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    New to the forum, just bought a Pugsley Necromancer. LOVE IT. Is it okay to turn back the clock and call it the Black Ops Pugsley, or will the lawyers come drag me away?

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    I got to thinking last night that I have never really ridden a steel "road" bike. I have an aluminum cross bike that I love, but its definitely built for speed and not for comfort. I have trouble justifying a cross check, but I have basically all the parts I would need for a new cyclocross build - thinking of putting all those parts on a long haul trucker frame. Assume this would be much more comfy on 50-100 mile road rides than my current rig.

    I really want a pugsley at some point too, but I don't really have room for it. So I will need to design a more efficient bike rack system for my garage first
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexCuse View Post
    I got to thinking last night that I have never really ridden a steel "road" bike. I have an aluminum cross bike that I love, but its definitely built for speed and not for comfort. I have trouble justifying a cross check, but I have basically all the parts I would need for a new cyclocross build - thinking of putting all those parts on a long haul trucker frame. Assume this would be much more comfy on 50-100 mile road rides than my current rig.

    I really want a pugsley at some point too, but I don't really have room for it. So I will need to design a more efficient bike rack system for my garage first
    The CC would probably be more comfy than the LHT actually unless you were loaded up. The LHT has a sturdier tubeset. The CC is so versatile with all the braze-ons etc that I think it's quite justifiable for someone who likes CX ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexCuse View Post
    I got to thinking last night that I have never really ridden a steel "road" bike. I have an aluminum cross bike that I love, but its definitely built for speed and not for comfort. I have trouble justifying a cross check, but I have basically all the parts I would need for a new cyclocross build - thinking of putting all those parts on a long haul trucker frame. Assume this would be much more comfy on 50-100 mile road rides than my current rig.

    I really want a pugsley at some point too, but I don't really have room for it. So I will need to design a more efficient bike rack system for my garage first
    Defenetly a big feel difference between steel and alum.

    Aluminum is harsh, stiffer and not near as compliant. Steel will flex, with surly frames, usually quite a bit. But, the ride quality is loads better imo. If you just want performance, get alum. or carbon, but the niceness of a steel bike is hard to top.
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    My cross check rides like a wet noodle. I wouldn't have it any other way

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottg07 View Post
    Thinking of converting the front end on my instigator to fat .........
    Hey I'm doing this (very slowly mind you) at the moment. Putting the sc32 front end from my pugs and have had a rear large marge wheel built. Canti posts gone... Not much clearance in the rear, only an old 2.5 would fit. My dreams of fat trail sort of faded....

    Slightly off topic but I will be getting 29er nards for my pugsley skinny wheels

    Love the krampus idea but no room at the moment

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    I've got 1 green Ogre and 1 purple Troll on order. Next year should be a fun summer for me and the wife.

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    Oh, man... now I have choices. Ended up with enough extra disposable cash to maybe afford a 2nd nice bike beyond the Dummy I have on order. I'd LOVE to replace my POS commuter bike that I had slated to replace in spring/summer next year. I'm thinking of a CC or LHT. Any thoughts/suggestions?

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    My new (to me) KM should be here tomorrow! A chum bucket red model from the mtbr classifieds.

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