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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    i had to fool around with various stems to get it comfy and i will probably try some woodchippers at some point since the junebug bars are maybe a tad narrow for me...
    You might consider Cowchippers. The 46cm ones feel a lot wider than their 46cm. I used them briefly and really liked them, just had them on the wrong bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfltroll View Post
    You might consider Cowchippers. The 46cm ones feel a lot wider than their 46cm. I used them briefly and really liked them, just had them on the wrong bike.
    i tried to get a set of cowchippers when i bought my straggler but they were out of stock at the time...i ended up with some easton ergo drops that are just about right except i dont much care for them off road,or even on what passes for dirt roads here....or better to say climbing is fine,its going down the steeper stuff where i want regular flat bars....plus i rarely use the drops so i dunno,maybe woodchippers would be a bad choice since theres just more drop for me to not use...

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    Surly Troll 2017

    Surly Troll 2017 with Knards 3.0 tires.
    Really comfortable riding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    i tried to get a set of cowchippers when i bought my straggler but they were out of stock at the time...i ended up with some easton ergo drops that are just about right except i dont much care for them off road,or even on what passes for dirt roads here....or better to say climbing is fine,its going down the steeper stuff where i want regular flat bars....plus i rarely use the drops so i dunno,maybe woodchippers would be a bad choice since theres just more drop for me to not use...
    Whatever you use, consider using one of these stems:
    https://www.crustbikes.com/products/...stem-pre-order

    Or not. I think the LD stem would be the way I'd go if I were trying to fit drops on a Surly mtn bike such as an Ogre. Just not sure how it'd look.

    As for the Cowchippers, I found them to be quite comfortable on long dirt road descents. I just didn't like them as much as Cowbells for regular "road" riding.
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    No link for ya but Guitar Ted put an LD stem on his old KM with drop bars and seemed to like it. g-tedproductions.com, should be easy enough to find his words/photos.

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    Surly Troll 2017 rebuild

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    Allow me to be the first to add content, here's my newly acquired Pugsley. Next to it is a Kenda 2.3 just to demonstrate how big the Endomorph tires really are. Enjoy.
    I have rebuilt my bike from a legacy Troll Frame to the new 2017 model to accomodate a 26 plus tire, the Surly Knard. The clearance is a bit crowded but the setup is wonderful as it floats and hhas a fuller gripPost pics of your Surly!!!-17098357_10155182856555962_4812132968353340124_n.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfltroll View Post
    Whatever you use, consider using one of these stems:
    https://www.crustbikes.com/products/...stem-pre-order

    Or not. I think the LD stem would be the way I'd go if I were trying to fit drops on a Surly mtn bike such as an Ogre. Just not sure how it'd look.

    As for the Cowchippers, I found them to be quite comfortable on long dirt road descents. I just didn't like them as much as Cowbells for regular "road" riding.
    i was talking descending on singletrack,as far as road downhills both bars are just fine...its really just the steeper bits where you need to get off the back of the saddle,but i guess thats the nature of riding dirt on drops...

    Quote Originally Posted by Matterhorn View Post
    No link for ya but Guitar Ted put an LD stem on his old KM with drop bars and seemed to like it. g-tedproductions.com, should be easy enough to find his words/photos.
    i need to talk to P at the shop,im still getting some hand numbness after extended rough bits...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    i was talking descending on singletrack,as far as road downhills both bars are just fine...its really just the steeper bits where you need to get off the back of the saddle,but i guess thats the nature of riding dirt on drops...


    i need to talk to P at the shop,im still getting some hand numbness after extended rough bits...
    As the SS CC build slowly develops I'm trying glean all the info I can from your KM/Straggler experiments.

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    Jones Bend H-bar
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    desire to ride some pavement

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    lol,i just need another frame i guess!

    yeah,its a quandary for sure,i really like the drop bar setup on the monkey,but the hand numbness sucks,im wondering if the bars are too padded since there gel pads and gel tape...and as much as i like it in this mode its really a kick ass mountain bike...and with the bar end thingy i have on the ict that has all the hand positions i like about drop bars but with the off road control of regular bars...and it fits the bike better frankly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nowhereyonder View Post
    I'm in IA while my ECR is in WY. :-/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luisliwanag View Post
    I have rebuilt my bike from a legacy Troll Frame to the new 2017 model to accomodate a 26 plus tire, the Surly Knard. The clearance is a bit crowded but the setup is wonderful as it floats and hhas a fuller gripClick image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pink57 View Post
    What bag do you use with your bindle? I bought one from Alpkit that is tapered, I could have gotten the Revelate bag but it was much more than the Alpkit even with International shipping.
    Is it the Airlok 13 liter? How do you like it? It looks like a nice bag and the daisy chain would come in handy.

    I bought the terrapin and it works great. It does sag over the back of the Bindle without an extra strap running along the full length of the rack, and it also rubs a bit against the saddle bag loops on a brooks saddle. Otherwise, no complaints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luisliwanag View Post
    Surly Troll 2017 with Knards 3.0 tires.
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    Everything about that bike looks right.

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    the quiver...

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    oh yeah...one more in the house!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    the quiver...

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    oh yeah...one more in the house!
    awesome!!! Like bats, hanging...waiting....preparing to go out and seek prey
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    ready to hunt the wild gnar...and the not so wild groceries!

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    A couple of pics from the last couple of weeks rides.

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    A couple of the LHT from this past weekend.

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    From a 40-mile gravel crunch on Sunday...

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    gonna get out tomorrow for a 1/2 grinder anyway...

    a little picnic ride since there space in the stragglecheck bag for a folding camp stool,the tool kit and a spare tube,snacks,a picnic lunch,and probably a half dozen sedate kittens and krispy kremes on the way home...
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    New tires day!!! Maxxis Torch 29's.

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    the krampus out and about for a day of ss with a new karate monkey,a pugs ss,a wednesday ss,and an ecr...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    the krampus out and about for a day of ss with a new karate monkey,a pugs ss,a wednesday ss,and an ecr...

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    would that be a gaggle of Surlys? Or a murder, or a school? Awesome group!!
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    it was,a good group of folks to ride with...

    perhaps a crush of surly's? maybe a fatpack?

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    A surge?

    A rash?

    An infestation?

    A comeuppance?
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    a localized gravitational anomaly?
    a heavy bevy?

    whatever you would call it,i have noticed so far that surly riders tend to be pretty easy going folks,just out to ride bikes for the simple joy of it...

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    I like "infestation"...also "rash"

    and yeah...according to some people, Surly riders are just "hipsters that drank the Kool Aid". Well, most of the Surly riders I know are definitely cool, very chill, open minded. And also hard workers...there are three gys around here who delivery for bakeries and grocery stores who use Surlys...one Big Dummy with a homemade trailer, and I think the other 2 are ogres or Karate Monkeys with bags and a trailer.
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    i dont think anyone would mistake me for a hipster!
    i dont own a car and do just about everything by bike and/or trailer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    i dont think anyone would mistake me for a hipster!
    i dont own a car and do just about everything by bike and/or trailer...
    around here, that would DEFINITELY be a hipster. All you would need is an epic beard, rolled up jeans and a flannel...and an annoying elitist disposition...

    we have what I call "true cycle culture" people, like the guys I ,mentioned above, and then the hipster crew who really only ride from their house to the micro-brewery or coffee house....on $1500 + MTBS....
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    naw,im just an ******* on absurdly customized bikes with a generally bad attitude!

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    Post pics of your Surly!!!-img_2909.jpg


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    New to the Karate Monkey group. Ordered a 2017 KM and while building found a older model that was clapped out for a steal. Now i have two!
    Coming from a 2017 Salsa timberjack, I will say the 2017 KM is soooo much more comfortable and fun. 6'4 XL
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    Karate Monkey Franken Bike

    Here's my Karate Monkey set up with 29"wheels and slick tires,
    "road bike mode"

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]1132999[/ATTACH

    And video:
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    Looks good, Max!

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    I have a PDW Bindle with a Alpkit tapered bag. The front bag for one interested is a Grand Trunk ATOM, I have their larger weekender also but it does not fit that basket unfortunately. They are a really cool bag and waterproof.
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