Surly lists the chainstay length of these bikes as 413mm and the diagram shows the measurement being from the center of the bottom-bracket to the very front edge of the dropout. I don't know if the diagram is accurate as to how they actually measured it so is the 431mm the correct measurement to that point, the center of the axle of a wheel placed all the way forward or in the middle of the dropout?
Also, how far back can you safely put a wheel in a rear facing dropout? What would be the approximate chainstay length of a wheel at this rearmost position?
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