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    Next years bike : Drop Bar Karate Monkey, Alfine

    Now that the KM has been cleaned up a bit. And the Alfine 8 is no longer insanely pricey... I am planning my next bike (hoping to build it by next spring) My Soma Groove is great and I don't really want to change it. but I want another rigid steel bike thats not a responsive little commuter bullet.

    I want something that takes racks and fenders better. that cruises with ease and rolls gently along.

    So my plan is a 16" grey KM, Alfine out back. drop bars... and hopefully hydraulic discs... if such a thing is possible for drop bars by this spring.

    thoughts?

    I know its odd to start a thread for theoretical bikes... but hell... I likes to plan... and I likes to talk.

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    not sure how hydros and drops would work. You could still do BB7s though if you just want discs.

    For the record, I didn't like the drops on my monkey (80mm 35* stem still wouldn't put thebars in a comfy place for me)... but some people seem to be happy with it.

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    Remember the Surly Ogre - A more rear rack friendly design than the KM. I have had a similar design banging around in my head since I bought my KM 3 years ago...it just gets pushed back further and further as other projects butt in line. In the end I don't think I could live with such a rear-heavy trail bike, but that's my problem. It would make a killer bike-camping set up, though. I think Jtek is still making a bar-end shifter for the Alfine8 despite the passing of it's inventor.
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    If you go with an Alfine 8/drop bar I'd highly recommend the JTek bar end shifter. It works great and is nicer than another Alfine 8/drop bar shifting solution that I've tried.

    Bar End Shifter for Nexus/Alfine IGH « The Lazy Rando Blog…

    There is also a brifter option that I have never used:

    Nexus/Alfine Brifter! « The Lazy Rando Blog…
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    to be honest a part of why I bought the Groove. and Want the KM is prettyness. they're very clean looking bikes.

    Also both these bikes are (going to be) built to be commuters that once in a while hit the trail. so I tend to aim for city friendly...

    I know the Ogre is just a KM with options. but part of me feels if I am going to go for the uglier brother. why not the troll? I can reuse most parts on it!

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    I hear you. The Ogre is powerful ugly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak View Post
    I hear you. The Ogre is powerful ugly.


    They look pretty similar to me...

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    Someone once asked me. how much my technical pen cost.
    I replied with "Eleven Dollars"
    they told me "I can get ten Sharpies for that price!"
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    Pardon me, Vikb, for expressing a personal opinion about bike aesthetics, here, on MTBR. WTF was I thinking.
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    My next frameset is an Ogre.

    I kinda came to the conclusion that while the KM is prettier... I am building this bike to be a hauler... racks, fenders... trailers...

    My soma is the zippy good looking bike. this will be my work truck.

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    Yah, Vik, its not the geometry its the colors. Some people love the green, some people hate it. I'm trying to search for a good bike for my wife. I keep thinking "technical features" and the kind of riding we want to do. Then I a show her a bike and she says "ewww, I can't have that green" and I'm thinking she didn't even ask about the components or the ride or the handling! ;-)

    Surly made a bunch of their current year bikes that kind of green including the LHT disc and the ogre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pointerDixie214 View Post
    not sure how hydros and drops would work. You could still do BB7s though if you just want discs.

    For the record, I didn't like the drops on my monkey (80mm 35* stem still wouldn't put thebars in a comfy place for me)... but some people seem to be happy with it.
    I'm with you there, I eventually gave up on the drops also. Top tube is too long, headtube too short. May try one of the Voodoo stems, thought briefly about a custom stem from Clockwork, didn't want to spend $200 on a stem. LD Replica Stem - a set on Flickr

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    +rep to Surly for doing ugly right. I don't want anyone to ever think my Troll is pretty, it's a Troll after all. No one else in the industry names their bikes more appropriately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agwan View Post
    Now that the KM has been cleaned up a bit. And the Alfine 8 is no longer insanely pricey... I am planning my next bike (hoping to build it by next spring) My Soma Groove is great and I don't really want to change it. but I want another rigid steel bike thats not a responsive little commuter bullet.

    I want something that takes racks and fenders better. that cruises with ease and rolls gently along.

    So my plan is a 16" grey KM, Alfine out back. drop bars... and hopefully hydraulic discs... if such a thing is possible for drop bars by this spring.

    thoughts?

    I know its odd to start a thread for theoretical bikes... but hell... I likes to plan... and I likes to talk.
    I'm curious if you'll find any drop levers to run hydraulics. Good luck!
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    ^ There aren't any yet, but what do exist are adapters to connect a hydralic caliper to a normal drop bar lever, now that discs are legal for CX racing. There are at least one or two out there (or almost out there); I think Tektro/TRP make one of them. I'm not so sure this is actually a good idea.

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