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    New Surly - Moonlander

    Surly just announced a new model on their blog, the Moonlander. It's a fat tire bike like the Pugsley. It has a few differences, but I'm not sure why they didn't just change the Pugsley instead of add a 2nd fat tire bike. Does the world really need 2 different Surly fat tire bikes but no disc Cross Check? I'm kinda scratching my head over this one.

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    You've obviously never ridden a fatbike.

    As far as your disc needs, there are several comparable disc ready CX options. There's also the 1x1 fork and some disc adapters out there, too.

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    go to the Fat Bikes forum an see the excitement about it... Vaya con Dios amigo...

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    Fatbikes are splitting into different purposes just like all other types of offroad bicycles
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    I'm excited to see more pictures. Imagine, this could normalize the Pugsley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfltroll View Post
    ... Imagine, this could normalize the Pugsley...
    You mean folk are gonna stop staring and asking me why my tyres are so fat!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnni1968 View Post
    You mean folk are gonna stop staring and asking me why my tyres are so fat!!


    only if they see a Moonlander running BFLs on Clownshoes first and then you pass by with your skinny Larry on some LMs

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    Quote Originally Posted by western high plains View Post
    You've obviously never ridden a fatbike.

    As far as your disc needs, there are several comparable disc ready CX options. There's also the 1x1 fork and some disc adapters out there, too.
    No, I haven't ridden a fatbike. I'm sure they are cool, but there's no snow around here and not much sand apart from a few beaches that wouldn't be all that fun to ride on.

    There are very few affordable do-anything steel disc brake frames out there and a Crosscheck with disc brakes would be a great addition and would sell really well. For now, the Salsa Vaya fits the bill except for one thing: it is very, very, ugly.

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    So what is the different "purpose" of the Moonlander? Is it made to ride on big piles of Cheetos instead of snow and sand?

    I checked out the fatbike forum and I couldn't find any discussion of why there is a need for both a Pugsley and a Moonlander.

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    I dont think Surly needs a reason... It's freakin awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumper View Post
    I dont think Surly needs a reason... It's freakin awesome!
    That.

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    supersized, it the american way.

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    its all about surface area. bigger wider tires go over more things easier. the photo on their blog pretty much says it all.

    http://www.surlybikes.com/blog/

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    Surly has done a fine job with the "if you build it, they will come" business model. This new offering will further prove their success with that mantra.
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    It's a fat bike arms race. I'm all for it.

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    And the phat pendulum swings back into the Surly camp.


    Where are these piles of cheetos you speak of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor29 View Post
    No, I haven't ridden a fatbike. I'm sure they are cool, but there's no snow around here and not much sand apart from a few beaches that wouldn't be all that fun to ride on.

    There are very few affordable do-anything steel disc brake frames out there and a Crosscheck with disc brakes would be a great addition and would sell really well. For now, the Salsa Vaya fits the bill except for one thing: it is very, very, ugly.
    Well, that plus the Vaya geometry is a bit different than the Cross Check.

    As far as the no snow and sand thing- I live in PA, and 99% of my Pugsley riding is on technical singletrack. It is the only mountain bike of mine that I've ridden since I bought it in January. It's that much fun. You truly don't know what you're missing. I think I rode it twice in the snow conditions one would find a snowbike excelling at.

    P.S., the larger tires for the Moonlander necessitated quite a few changes from the Pugsley frame. Which is why they needed a new bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumper View Post
    I dont think Surly needs a reason... It's freakin awesome!
    Because Fatbike

    (If there are any Jalopnik readers on here, that will make sense)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor29 View Post
    ...no disc Cross Check? I'm kinda scratching my head over this one.
    Just buy a Pake c'muter, same frame, lots cheaper. Add a Dimension CX disc fork and you're good to go.

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    Got mine ordered
    Cant wait to take it the real soft places where even sometimes the pug can struggle
    be just like err... getting a pugsley and going places a normal bike struggles

    Each bike will have a place and use,
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    where did you order from?

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    Charlie The Bike Monger here in the UK is taking pre orders so hopefully we dont have to wait longer for them over here

    http://www.charliethebikemonger.com/...ims-1483-p.asp
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    OMG! 2100 pounds sterling, that is approx. 3380 in dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJaredX View Post
    Because Fatbike

    (If there are any Jalopnik readers on here, that will make sense)
    I lol'd.

    interested to see this thing in person once someone gets one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottybinwv View Post
    OMG! 2100 pounds sterling, that is approx. 3380 in dollars.
    I was under the impression that QBP sells Surlys in the US for ~1/2 what they cost overseas

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    Moonlander

    FYI: Moonlander frame sets in November, complete bikes by Christmas for US customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor29 View Post
    There are very few affordable do-anything steel disc brake frames out there and a Crosscheck with disc brakes would be a great addition and would sell really well. For now, the Salsa Vaya fits the bill except for one thing: it is very, very, ugly.
    +1

    I agree, but keep the Moonlander as well. The more, the merrier.

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    I haven't even had the opportunity to ride a pug yet, but the moonlander looks like incredible amounts of fun.

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    To answer the original question, ML will have a very niche market. I predict it will not achieve the popularity of the Pugs. If Surly stopped making the Pugs and only the ML, their sales would crash. I for one would never have a need for the ML, but by Pugs is indispensable.

    Fatbikes aren't just for sand or snow. They make great trail bikes, and very respectable road bikes. Most likely ML will make a terrible road bike. I'm running LM's with Larry's. Great combination and they're bombproof. So recapping, ML will do well, but will not achieve wide acceptance like the Pugs did. Just my opinion

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