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    Long Haul Truckers...

    How do you like the LHT's and what do you use it for? What would you improve/upgrade?
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    you can find this info in the review section

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    Quick answer: Do some digging and you'll see the near cult status of the LHT. Have someone properly fit one to you and you'll see why so many love 'em.

    I'm 5'8" and a 50cm LHT fits me like a glove. Could ride a 52, also. Mine's new this year, but I've used it in a duathlon, multiple long distance rides, sprint training, and general errand running (when I'm not using the Goat).

    I had the means and time to upgrade several things on mine, but the complete bike, available from Surly, is a really great build that will serve you quite well.

    I swapped the drops for Modolo Yuma Traveler bars, among other changes:




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    I love my bike. Since this picture, I've added a generator front wheel and headlight plus a frame pump. I still haven't done a tour but I ride it around town a lot.

    There's more LHT discussion at google groups: http://groups.google.com/group/SurlyLHT/

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    I love mine. Only had it a few weeks, but I've commuted to work, done some group rides (20+ mph) and some solo rides (not quite as fast!).

    I wish I would have purchased it sooner.

    I would have thought the 58 would be too big for me, but it is right on. Make sure you go to a shop that can fit you properly.

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    Commuting, daytrips, shopping, fitness rides, fun rides, family rides, kid-trailer pulling, even a little mountain biking (though the low, low bb makes that one a little challenging). Ironically, about the only thing I haven't done is fully loaded multi-day tour. But this thing will last forvever, so plenty of time for that. Oh, I haven't ever raced it either.
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    i just scored a 42cm LHT frame in olive green for my wife for $230.

    sweet!

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    where

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    Where ?!? PM me please if you have to. Thanks !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sac29
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    Where ?!? PM me please if you have to. Thanks !
    ebay! lots of good deals. keep checking.

    also, i've seen some really nice deals on LHTs and CCs on craigslist in the bay area.

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    thanks !

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    You guys have some nice truckers! I think we should turn this into a long haul picture thread, I searched and we don't have one yet. Everyone, post your LHT!

    I finally finished my LHT, here's some of the upgrades I've made:

    -Race Face Turbine Crankset
    -XT Front Derailleur
    -Paul's Thumbies
    -Cane Creek V-Brake Levers
    -Avid Single Digit 7 V-Brakes
    -Salsa Brake Disrupters
    -Salsa Stem
    -Chris King Headset
    -Brooks Professional Saddle
    -Crank Brothers Stainless Eggbeaters
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    Once you do the Paul Thumbies, it's hard to get excited about the latest Star Trekkish thing called shifters.

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    Thumbies, along with my salsa brake disruptors, have been the most useful upgrades I have done. They really improve the comfort and functionality of riding.

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    Get on it...get out there...


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    LHT size!

    hey mangoman...I visited your Monster Trucker Flickr Album last night and saw a particular thing...all your bikes are 18" but then you choose a 50cm LHT!! why is that? can you please enlighten me...why not a 54cm or may be a 52cm...but a 50!!? isn't that too small?...you should be at least 5' 8" and 31" inseam to have chosen 18" as your main MTB size...

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    Quote Originally Posted by martinsillo
    hey mangoman...I visited your Monster Trucker Flickr Album last night and saw a particular thing...all your bikes are 18" but then you choose a 50cm LHT!! why is that? can you please enlighten me...why not a 54cm or may be a 52cm...but a 50!!? isn't that too small?...you should be at least 5' 8" and 31" inseam to have chosen 18" as your main MTB size...

    Thanks!!

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    Martin,

    I could easily fit a 52cm LHT and had I preferred a little more stretch, that would have been a great choice. However, after a nearly 3 hour fitting by the best road bike shop in town (known for it's fittings), we concluded that a 50cm LHT would be the best overall fit for what I wanted (long slow distance touring with a preference for being more upright).

    700+ miles later, no complaints: no knee pain, no discomfort...just a comfortable bicycle that I can ride for hours. Granted, I've tweaked some details: adding the Modolo Yuma Traveler bar, a Brooks B-17 (finally broken in). But I give the most credit to a thorough, detailed fitting.

    And I am 5'8".

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    thanks mangoman.. is always good to know this kind of things.. regards... Martin.... (I'm 5' 9" with 32" inseam)
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    here's one to compliment your's mangoman:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzler
    here's one to compliment your's mangoman:
    Indeed! Beautiful, idyllic shot.

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    Pastoral . . . I hung that swing for my sister's family and snapped a quick picture with my phone when I was done.

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    Sizzler - You're using Salsa Brake Disrupters with Avid Single Digit 7 V-Brakes - do you find they pull enough cable to work well with the avid "V"s ? - salsacycles.com just says "Cantilever compatible",

    I'm interested because I have 287V / Single Digit 7s on my Cross Check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theindividualist
    Sizzler - You're using Salsa Brake Disrupters with Avid Single Digit 7 V-Brakes - do you find they pull enough cable to work well with the avid "V"s ? - salsacycles.com just says "Cantilever compatible",

    I'm interested because I have 287V / Single Digit 7s on my Cross Check.
    The salsa brake disruptors work very well with v brakes, but they do feel different than when used with cantis. When you pull the levers, they are more squishy but because v-brakes are so much better, the levers apply as much or more braking power than when used with the cantis, the difference is just in the feel. In fact, I can now pull the levers about halfway and lock up the wheels, which I could never have done with cantis. All that said, I have never considered them safe to use in an emergency stopping situation. If a car pulls in front of me, I always reach for my aero levers.

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    Here is my trucker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianxlaura
    Christian, which handlebars and shifters are you using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ache
    Christian, which handlebars and shifters are you using?
    The handlebars are the HUMPERT X-ACT RANDONNEUR. Humpert produces these handlebars only for the german bicycle company Utopia. Whether Utopia also sent to the United States would have to ask. There you can also order the handlebars. It costs 64 €. The handlebar is with 52cm very wide. You can unscrew the ends and then install Shimano or SRAM flatbar shifters. My shifters are Shimano Compatible SRAM Attack.

    I hope I could help you and sorry for my bad english.

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    Good job! Surlys and why we love them

    I couldn't find that post about why we love our Surlys so I figured I'd put this here. Got my first Surly 2-3 years ago. SS rigid KM, built up by my LBS. Love this bike!!!! like a big boy bmx bike. I feel unstoppable on this bike. Month ago got my second Surly. Pacer complete ordered and fitted by my LBS. Love this bike!!!!! it ain't the lightest road bike (and I ain't the lightest rider!), but it is fast comfortable and a blast to ride. Now I am mixing up road rides and singletrack and loving both.

    here is the LHT connection. am out with my wife on a road ride in northern NJ a couple sundays ago. a couple miles from home I pass a guy stopped off the road with a bike all loaded up racks and stuff. I ride with him for a few minutes and I ask where he is headed and he says out west. I say, well where did you start from? he says NYC. I wish him well and tell him nice bike. he looks at me and smiles. he was riding a nice purplish blue LHT and it looked like he had everything he needed on him and the LHT. I have nothing but appreciation for Surly and my Surly bikes.

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    My new LHT

    So I picked up my LHT last week but didn't get a chance to ride it or wrap the bars as I had a 600k brevet last weekend. Spent yesterday and today rolling around on it and love it! Even took it up into Forest Park yesterday for a few miles on the dirt roads there.

    I put the racks on this morning although took the front rack off as I don't need that for around town. I just wanted to get it set-up and see how it looked. I bought it a few years ago on a whim and never really used it but glad I didn't sell it. Still, not sure how much use it'll get but we'll see.

    The tires on the bike are 700x47 Schwalbe Marathons which are nice on dirt roads but a bit of overkill for the pavement. And they don't play well with fenders. I've got a 2 day trip I want to take this summer that has one 30 mile stretch of dirt roads and they should be perfect for that.

    Most likely this will be come my commuter. I just need to add fenders and use a smaller set of tires. I can then work on changing my CC from an single speed commuter with an upright bar to a geared all-rounder with a flat bar.
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    Safe riding,

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    I love mine. I haven't been able to ride it all that much over the past 6 months since my friends got really into mountain biking and so that's mostly what I ride now, but I am in the midst of a reaquaintance with my LHT, as I recently got an iBert Safe-T-Seat for my 2 year old son, and along with that, my wife started working middle shift, so my son and I are going to be on the LHT almost every night, going to the park, grocery store, nature/walking paths, rails to trails, etc etc.

    I am in the process of converting it to Nitto North Road bars with cork grips, for a more upright, townie feel (and to make using the iBert possible). Here is a pic of it as it currently sits, only thing missing is my 700x40 Schwalbe Marathon Extreme's that I am running:



    Oh, be sure to check out the Surly LHT/Cross Check group on Google:

    http://groups.google.com/group/SurlyLHT

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    I'm glad this someone resurrected this thread . Hurray for Long Haul Truckers! I'm still ridin' and lovin' mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bolandjd
    I'm glad this someone resurrected this thread . Hurray for Long Haul Truckers! I'm still ridin' and lovin' mine.
    +1 although actually I am riding my CC fixed gear more on a day-to-day basis. Not much good for cargo though.

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    I, too, am still singing the praises of the LHT. Love this bike for commuting (mix of pave and dirt), 'round town, grocery getter, racing the kids, etc., etc.

    Only mods have been Salsa Bell Lap bar in medium width, and Schwalbe Ultra Marathon tires in medium fat. With stock tires, in the summer time, I was getting 1-2 flats per ride. ZERO flats since installing the Schwalbes. Spendy, but worth it.

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    Could/would you ride a LHT at a cross race?

    I'm in need of a bike for cross but it's only a small portion of my overall riding. I ride much more gravel. So would it be a terrible choice for 2 cross races a year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianick
    Could/would you ride a LHT at a cross race?

    I'm in need of a bike for cross but it's only a small portion of my overall riding. I ride much more gravel. So would it be a terrible choice for 2 cross races a year?
    It wouldn't be my first choice, and it wouldn't be quick, but it would work. BB is a bit low, and it's not really an accelerate out of the corners bike. I'd probably be more likely to run a MTB with a skinnier tire before I'd ride the LHT. I say this having ridden mine on a bit of grass at Whiterock and singletrack around Des Moines. I'm sure you could find someone who would loan you a cross bike for a couple of races for a minimal amount of beer or something

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    I don't have mine any more, but here is a photo of mine when I had it.

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    How did you like the firecross tires on your LHT? I have thought about putting some on mine. Any clearance issues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pastpost
    How did you like the firecross tires on your LHT? I have thought about putting some on mine. Any clearance issues?
    I went with the firecross because my 2.1 Nano's rubbed the chainstays (although they cleared the fork fine). They were OK, but on gravel, I found them slow rolling due to the knobs. I used them for one gravel century and I never really used them again. I went back to the stock 38mm Conti's that came with mine and they worked fine for everything but really soft sandy roads.

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    First overnight camping trip on LHT.

    So I've been riding my LHT around town quite a bit for the past month but yesterday was the first day I got out for a camping trip with a load. I live in Portland and headed out Hwy 224 about 27 miles outside of Estacada to a campsite on the Clackamas River. I had Surly Nice Racks mounted front and rear but I only used one set of panniers, a set of Ortlieb Front Roller Pluses. On the platform of the rear rack I had my one man tent and rain jacket in a stuff sack. In the panniers I had my pad, bag, food, stove and clothing. I probably could have fit all my gear for the trip in the two panniers if I had trimmed the load down a bit but there was a chance for rain.

    I'm just really happy with how the bike performed. It was rock solid on descents with no shimmy at all, something which was always an issue on my previous bike with a rear load. Besides running a front load which was new the only other thing new to me, besides the frame, was the 48cm Nitto Noodle handelbars. I love the width of these bars and they seem like the perfect choice for the LHT.

    The one thing I'd consider changing might be the racks. While the NRs are... well... nice, they're a bit overbuilt for my needs. I'd maybe like to try out the Tubus Duo or the Salsa Down Under rack later this summer, especially when the weather is nicer and I don't need a tent. I was rolling some hefty tires too (Schwalbe 700x47 but measure 41). In July I'll get out with a lighter load, lighter tires (Supremes 700x35) and maybe throw on the SPDs. For the most part I'm fine with the heavier Marathons, especially when on dirt roads and don't mind using platform pedals if I'm not in a rush.

    It was about 70 miles or so out to the campsite by Ripplebrook Ranger Station. This morning I woke early and headed back towards Estacada but decided to explore a Forest Service Rd that could bring me back around to Estacada a different way. It was a beautiful narrow paved FS road that just kept climbing and climbing. Unfortunately, after about 10 miles snow started appearing on the road, finally covering the road. I couldn't see how long it lasted so I had some cereal and descended back the way I had come and back to Estacada via Hwy 224.

    I'm really very happy with my LHT and am looking forward to more bike camping in July as I work up to a 10 day tour in August. Plans for the Aug tour aren't finalized yet. Me and a buddy may head up to Rainer through Gifford Pinchot NF or we may take a train up to Whitefish, MT and ride back or just loop around up there. We toured 2yrs ago averaging 80+ miles a day and are hoping to something similar this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfltroll View Post
    The one thing I'd consider changing might be the racks. While the NRs are... well... nice, they're a bit overbuilt for my needs. I'd maybe like to try out the Tubus Duo or the Salsa Down Under rack later this summer, especially when the weather is nicer and I don't need a tent.
    I really like the Tubus Duo. I can carry 30# of apples in panniers on the front and the bike just sucks it up.


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    Thanks! Looks like the Duo racks mount up perfectly on the LHT. I like the idea of using them rather than a Tara as the Tara seems to limit the size of the front tire you can use. I kind of doubt I could run a Tara with a Schwalbe 700x47 tire.

    You running a Cargo rear rack? I feel like the rear NR is also a bit overbuilt but adjustable which is nice if swapping between bikes or worried about height of platform.
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    Yes I started with the cargo and then added the duo later. The cargo is not as universally adjustable as the nice rack, it doesn't have those sliding posts to the dropout eyelet. They make separate models for 26" and 700c.

    Also, the cargo has rear struts that angle together toward the top, so you couldn't for instance use one with endomorph tires. But it fits around my big apples just fine!

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    Another extended overnight camping trip.

    I went out for another extended overnight camping trip on the LHT. This time I went out about 100 miles or so from Portland to Breitenbush. I carried the load primarily on the rear for this trip. I was really surprised how well the LHT handled even with most of the weight on the rear. Still, I'll most likely ride with panniers up front for my tour in Aug and put a stuff sack on the rear rack's platform. I also picked up an Ortlieb handlebar bag making for easy access to camera and snacks.
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    Fenders?

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    What fenders are those?
    I believe the LHT is a 26" version.
    I'm looking for some nice looking 26" full coverage fenders.

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    Long haul observation.
    I have used a LHT as my primary bike for a little over 2 years. I have been doing a ride that takes me two hours in sneakers on a LHT with fenders, racks and handlebar bags.

    I decided to try my road bike today, it is a sub 20lbs bike, clipless etc...

    The difference in the route was 5 minutes total. Which sounds like a lot, but I would rather have a handlebar bag and the ability to walk around. Might be selling the road bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommignon View Post
    What fenders are those?
    I believe the LHT is a 26" version.
    I'm looking for some nice looking 26" full coverage fenders.
    Those are Planet Bike Cascadia fenders, the ATB version. They are just the best fenders for the kind of weather I have to deal with.

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    Thanks
    Here is my version of the Long haul trucker.
    Before and after.
    I added the water bottle holders to DT underside and both fork legs. Then powder coated the frame and was amazed how much it looked like a LHT. I like it.
    I want some good fenders like yours. Thanks for the help.
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    RMNP extended overnighter

    Me and a buddy rode from Loveland CO up to Rocky Mtn Nat'l Park, camped at the Moraine Park campground. Only 40 or so miles one way, but with a fair bit of climbing. I went ghetto touring style - el cheapo aluminum racks front and back and a milk crate. At some point I'll invest in some nicer racks and bags but this setup actually worked really well. Front end was a little wobbly in strong cross winds on the (fast) descent back home, but nothing too bad. I maybe had 35lbs of stuff total. After we setup camp in the park we rode the few miles back to town, bought a cheap styrofoam cooler, beer, steaks, etc.

    My buddy on the other hand must have had 90lbs (including all his ski gear). He had an epiphany about halfway up Hwy 34 regarding the 'light is right' philosophy. More so after I took over BOB duties for the steepest sections of road...




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    My LHT:

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    First configuration: Touring

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    Second configuration: About town/errand bike

    I love both configs and also use the Duo front rack for touring. The LHT is a well designed bike, imo.
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    I <3 this setup.

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    Once I'm done with camping/touring for the year I'll most likely put upright bars and fenders on my LHT for commuting duties.

    I can see how you'd maybe get a little wobbly on a decent with all the gear up high like that. Definitely worth investing in a rack and panniers for carrying your load. As I mentioned above, I was really happy with the way the LHT handled even with a rear biased load.
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    Long day on the LHT + t-a-b w/ my 6 yo daughter today. Wife and 10 yo son on their own bikes. Thinking about taking the LHT rather than the fixed CC on a distance ride tomorrow.

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    Have you made the change for the handle bars and added the iBert yet? i would like to see pics if you have them. i am looking to do the same thing with my LHT, 62cm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bxrman View Post
    Have you made the change for the handle bars and added the iBert yet? i would like to see pics if you have them. i am looking to do the same thing with my LHT, 62cm.
    Yep! (Assuming you were talking to me). I have had it switched over for a little under 2 months now. These pictures show the iBert "stinger" but not the actual seat. This is a 58cm LHT.

    Impressions: I had to switch out the stock seatpost for this one in order to prevent my knees from hitting the iBert. They were only just barely touching but now they don't at all. I was worried I'd have to switch to a more supportive seat but so far even with the more upright riding position the B-17 has been fine, I just put the nose up a touch.

    Also, I am using the stock stem, but I also bought two 135mm stems (two different angles) in case I want to put the bars a little forward. I am ok as is but I could probably stand to use one of those stems, just haven't gotten around to trying them yet. It was hard to find a longer stem though- one is a cheap eBay stem and the other is a Thorn model I had to order from SJS Cycles in the UK. The steering with the stock stem and the upright bars felt slightly twitchy compared to the drops, so a longer stem may alleviate that, but I got used to it.

    The bars are Nitto North Road bars (very similar to Nitto Albatross bars but Rivendell was sold out of Albatross bars for the whole summer ), with Rivendell portuguese cork grips and twine, I shellac'd and tied them using the how-to Rivendell posted on YouTube, it was fun.

    The iBert is as great as it was on my Pugsley, it's a real fun seat to use.

    The pictures aren't really great angles of the handlebars from an asthetic standpoint, they look far nicer in person, haha.




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    Thank You

    Looks great, that gives me a ton of information, i am stretched out with my frame, so it will be interesting to see how the seat interacts with my knees, my wife is a little concerned about our son riding up with me, she would rather have a trailor, but i really like the ibert and the positioning.

    Thanks again!!

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    Honestly, my son has never been a problem- he is right between my arms which barely affects my center of gravity. I have never had a situation where we were unstable. Plus he gets the wind in his face, and the good view. I am fairly certain that the smile-factor would be far lower with a trailer.

    I should also point out that if you are considering other front-mount seats, I bought the Wee Ride from Toys R Us before I bought the iBert. Installed it on my Pugsley, and couldn't pedal, it interfered far too much with my legs. Returned it and found an LBS with an iBert in stock same day, so I had back to back comparison. Aside from the fit, it's just plain better hardware with the iBert.

    Also, depending on how much space you have on your stem, you can adjust the distance of the iBert from you by raising or lowering it on the stem.

    Worst case scenario, you can likely flip the iBert on Craigslist if it doesn't work for you, for very close to what you paid for it.

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    I am coming back to the LHT and this time i'm keeping it. I should have it Friday and it will be black and stock. I will make changes along the way. First will be a rack and fenders. Only two more days!

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    Awesome Truckers!

    Is anyone riding a 62cm Trucker with 26" wheels? Does it seem ridiculous to have 26" wheels on a frame this big?

    Is anyone using a flat bar on a Trucker? I'm considering a LHT build with a flat bar with bar ends or a Surly Open Bar and am wondering if the handling would be funny at all with a 120mm or so stem.

    Mangoman, did you get a different length stem for your Modolo Yuma?

    I see many of you are using v-brakes with fenders and racks. I'm guessing I would have no problem with 2.0 tires, fenders, racks, and Avid SD-7 brakes?

    How low is the LHT bottom bracket, really? I'm used to touring on a Big Dummy, and I'm wondering if I'll be able to hit the dirt on the LHT like I can on the Dummy, given the same tires. I'm also considering a Troll, but would appreciate the longer chainstays of the LHT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbryant2 View Post
    Awesome Truckers!

    Is anyone riding a 62cm Trucker with 26" wheels? Does it seem ridiculous to have 26" wheels on a frame this big?

    Is anyone using a flat bar on a Trucker? I'm considering a LHT build with a flat bar with bar ends or a Surly Open Bar and am wondering if the handling would be funny at all with a 120mm or so stem.

    Mangoman, did you get a different length stem for your Modolo Yuma?

    I see many of you are using v-brakes with fenders and racks. I'm guessing I would have no problem with 2.0 tires, fenders, racks, and Avid SD-7 brakes?

    How low is the LHT bottom bracket, really? I'm used to touring on a Big Dummy, and I'm wondering if I'll be able to hit the dirt on the LHT like I can on the Dummy, given the same tires. I'm also considering a Troll, but would appreciate the longer chainstays of the LHT.
    26" wheels on a 62cm frame look a little silly, to my eyes. But nothing silly for real about 26" wheels - lots of good reasons to use them. For one thing, the 26" Truckers can fit fatter tires finer - which is great if you want to run offroad knobbies.

    Flat bar truckers look great - sort of like retro mountain bikes. Mine would look killer with a bull moose-style bar. Hmmm . Might have to try it. Mountain Goat Goat-horn bar, maybe.

    My LHT is a 700c, but I think the BB height is about the same as 26". Close enough, anyway. LHT is definitely dirtable, but you do need to watch the clearance. Gravel, fireroads, buff singletrack - no problem. Rock gardens, rutted off-camber trails (especially climbing), anything remotely technical - not so much. Troll might be a better choice if you want ride mostly offroad.

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    Rides great with flat bars. 54cm with 120mm stem.
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    Alright...

    I ordered a Trucker frameset this morning. I didn't take much convincing. This thread won me over: http://forums.mtbr.com/endurance-rac...ke-451468.html. I'll post pictures once the bike is built up, but picture a blue frame, black components (Mr. Whirly cranks, Open Bar, B-17), cork grips, and gumwall tires.

    I need a bike for commuting and touring that I can take on buses and trains, something smaller and easier to manage than my Big Dummy. I will also be riding my first century in a few weeks and was not about to do in on the Dummy (although I could ).

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    Here is my LHT:
    I currently have some SKS fenders on it with a VO leather mudflap on the front. They were great this past week in SE TN.

    I am currently running Shimano A520 pedals and was thinking of going back to my MKS touring pedals. For those of you that are using flat pedals, MKS touring or Grip Kings, what kind of shoes are you wearing with them? Just curious.
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    "Rides great with flat bars. 54cm with 120mm stem. "




    smedly_whiplash- Every time I think a Cross Check is the bike for me I see a pic like this, and the process starts all over again. That bike looks like a ton of fun!

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    '07 LHT, XT drivetrain with Dura Ace 7402 brifters, Mavic CrossMax wheels, Maxxis Overdrive tires, 3T bar/stem, Axiom DLX rack, Chris King headset. These photos show it's summer loaded touring mode. I convert it to Truckercross mode for fall and winter snow riding. It does everything great except go fast.
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    Beauty Neil! What size frame is that, 54?

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    thanks! It's a 50cm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jct View Post
    i just scored a 42cm LHT frame in olive green for my wife for $230.

    sweet!
    Did you put a gun to the guys head lol. JK
    You got a great deal for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Brewster View Post
    thanks! It's a 50cm.
    Wow are those 26" wheels misleading

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    There are a few LHT's on ebay right now. Looks like they hold their value well.

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    Love the iBert seat! I have been using one for about a year and a half, going on two years I guess. Sadly, this will be our last summer until baby number two arrives.

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    I'm in a similar boat, I only started using it in the spring and my son is 2 1/2, I think by next spring he'll definitely be out of it. Which is sad because we absolutely love using it. I guess he'll have to go to rear mount.

    He does have a Specialized Hotwalk that he started using about a month ago, so maybe come springtime he'll be pedalling on his own

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    Quote Originally Posted by jct View Post
    ebay! lots of good deals. keep checking.

    also, i've seen some really nice deals on LHTs and CCs on craigslist in the bay area.
    +1 on ebay. I just scored a nice Pacer for $190 shipped for my wife. It's going to be a nice winter project. If you're persistent, you can get some great deals on ebay. Good luck
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    Here is my usual commute setup, 2 panniers + bar bag, and room for whatever else
    comes up on the day.



    I can do the fore/aft no pannier thing like Rivendell and Carradice seem to want.



    (that in the front is both a pillow *and* a pet).

    Here is today, 40# of produce (24# of apples and pears in the front panniers).



    I appreciate the 'naked LHT' thread but between the bar bag and coffee (and fenders),
    mine is just never going to be stripped that far down.

    This bike is pushing 11k miles and has been stable for 3+ yrs now (no more changes),
    other than swapping the pedals and a couple wks ago removing the trailer QR
    (kids outgrew the trailer)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
    This bike is pushing 11k miles and has been stable for 3+ yrs now (no more changes),
    other than swapping the pedals and a couple wks ago removing the trailer QR
    (kids outgrew the trailer)
    Nice lookin', hard workin' Trucker. I really like your tires. Big and balloony. Must be 26".

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    Yep, 54cm frame, so no choice on wheel size (but tire clearance was the biggest factor in choosing that frame vs various other touring or cross options in the first place, way back when)

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    awesome gravel grinder

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    Saddle Up, that bike looks awesome.
    What Crank is that? and What front rack?

    It looks like the crank has the chain guard. I ride with long pants on and hate to wrap my leg. I usually forget to till I've destroyed my pants.

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    Thanks tommignon. The crank is the trekking version of the Deore, 26/36/48 t chainrings. The front rack is from Axiom, designed to support a basket, perfect for a nice big handlebar bag.

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    Changed the bar from a WTB Mountain/Road Drop to a Salsa Cowbell 2, shorter and shallower, I'll see how I like it. I may resort to a short and shallow FSA bar. I'm trying to like drop bars on the LHT, I'm just not there yet. 40+mm of spacers a +16 stem in an attempt to get the top of the bar even with the saddle. New tires and gone naked for a while.


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    Every time I think about switching to something like an open bar or north road bar on my LHT I wind up commuting home into a massive headwind off the water and I'm glad for the drops to pull me somewhat out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
    Every time I think about switching to something like an open bar or north road bar on my LHT I wind up commuting home into a massive headwind off the water and I'm glad for the drops to pull me somewhat out of it.


    We use Titec H-bars & Jeff Jones Loop H-bars on a few of our bikes and they provide a relaxed cruising position as well as a low forward aero position.

    Might be worth a look.

    BTW - ignore the hacked IGH shifter/grip setup. That was a short term configuration to validate my GF like the bars in general before we bought a IGH trigger shifter for her.
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    I've been trying to find somewhere that still stocks Titec bars, not having much luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    I've been trying to find somewhere that still stocks Titec bars, not having much luck.
    Jeff Jones is selling the Loop H-Bar which is nice and actually works better with most brake/shifter combos than the Titec H-Bar.

    Jeff's bars cost more, but the price isn't unreasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    Jeff Jones is selling the Loop H-Bar which is nice and actually works better with most brake/shifter combos than the Titec H-Bar.

    Jeff's bars cost more, but the price isn't unreasonable.
    All out of stock apparently. Sigh... I do have and like a titec h-bar but I would rather not swap it off the bike it's on.

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    You know those stress dreams where your brain is constantly trying to solve a problem or decision that's impossible to solve? I had that last night, kept me from getting a decent night's sleep. It was whether to get a disc trucker and swap all the parts over from my Salsa Vaya, or get a canti trucker and build a cheaper 'city bike' type build on it. Or some mix of the two.

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    I wish they made just one model of the LHT with both discs tabs and canti posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    I wish they made just one model of the LHT with both discs tabs and canti posts.
    Exactly what I thought when I got up this morning!

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    adding disc tabs isn't that much else to throw onto the brazer's dream of the LHT frame anyway is it, in addition to the chain hanger, pump thingy (wish I could move that to another bike), spoke holders, bottle mounts, rack mounts, fender mounts...

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    I could easily build two LHT's, one Disc model with drops and full touring setup and the other canti with a cheap & durable build, fat tires meant for heavy duty city use (including some jumping off stuff, etc). So many daydreams, so little extra space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostBoyScout View Post
    I could easily build two LHT's, one Disc model with drops and full touring setup and the other canti with a cheap & durable build, fat tires meant for heavy duty city use (including some jumping off stuff, etc). So many daydreams, so little extra space.
    Two thoughts:

    1. I'd go the other way - discs on the urban fun bike, simple reliable rim brakes on the tourer

    2. I could be build up two versions of just about every Surly bike. Maybe not the Dummy. But all the others.

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    Discs are as simple and reliable as rim brakes IMO, and the canti brakes for city use is all about theft deterrence for me. It would be de-decaled too

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    I've put a lot of miles on my LHT, road and dirt.






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    Have to see how this works. My riding is going to be pretty substantially curtailed for a while due to injury and these bars are a nod to that.

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    If those are Albatross bars - can't go wrong man. Absolutely love mine. It just changes your whole demeanor on the bike.

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    I'm so tempted to go back to a Surly Open bar. I've been riding drop bars on my LHT for most of the summer but just cannot completely come to terms with them. It's not because I'm out of shape, or feel pain or discomfort or anything like that, I have a Pacer that will be set up with an aggressive riding position, It's because the LHT has the potential to be the most comfortable bike ever made. I'm never in that big of a hurry on the LHT where aerodynamics enter into the equation. Sitting upright just feels natural on that bike, it doesn't seem to change how the power transfers to the back wheel.

    I like how Holmes put it, "the demeanor", I've found that being more upright and comfortable on the LHT does not change how it pedals and performs, the thing just rolls along. Maybe other LHT riders can relate to what I'm trying to say.

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    I said this elsewhere, I'd love to set-up a 26" Disc Trucker with an Open Bar as a homage to the Bridgestone XO-1. Seems like it would make the ideal commuter for here in Portland.

    @HardyW, love your LHT.
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    Totally lusting after a LHT. I may be able to justify it as being a car replacement on days when I have a ton of stuff to carry. Not that I ever have that much stuff, but these rigs look so comfortable for every day use.

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    They truly shine under a ginormous load.

    Thanks for the bar feedback guys! Those are cromo north road bars. Since they are cromo I am considering pushing the ends out to I guess widen the sweep if they prove to be too narrow as is.

    For my current needs the demeanor these bars inspire is definitely where I'm aiming!

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