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    A Disc Trucker it is...

    My conundrum is that I ride a 56cm frame and have the option of 26" or 700C.

    By any chance has anyone ridden both that could provide some insight as to the benefits of either?

    I have a Pacer that I adore, with no toe overlap. My concern with the 56cm and larger 700c wheels, I might have that issue.
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    Really nice bikes guys.

    Say, are there other upright bars that will fit barcon shifters, or is the Nitto Albatros the only show in town? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bolandjd View Post
    Really nice bikes guys.

    Say, are there other upright bars that will fit barcon shifters, or is the Nitto Albatros the only show in town? Thanks.
    the surly open bar actually fits bar end shifters. it looks a little goofy and i doubt they had BE's in mind when making the bar, but they do fit. i wanted an upright-ish bar that would fit BE's so i could easily swap out the drop bars from time to time on my cross check.
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    north road bars also take bar ends

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjwall View Post
    the surly open bar actually fits bar end shifters. it looks a little goofy and i doubt they had BE's in mind when making the bar, but they do fit. i wanted an upright-ish bar that would fit BE's so i could easily swap out the drop bars from time to time on my cross check.
    Good to know. Looks nice too. Anybody have a preference for Albo vs. Open Bar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
    north road bars also take bar ends
    Nitto North Road or somebody else's?

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    Nitto North Road cromo, not sure if they are different from their alu ones; I have not tried any others so don't have an opinion; maybe should have gone albatross. Not much black on the bike so I was just looking for something silver instead of the open bar (or maybe they do have that in silver and I didn't look hard enough)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celt View Post
    My conundrum is that I ride a 56cm frame and have the option of 26" or 700C.

    By any chance has anyone ridden both that could provide some insight as to the benefits of either?

    I have a Pacer that I adore, with no toe overlap. My concern with the 56cm and larger 700c wheels, I might have that issue.
    I was kind of hoping somebody would jump on this one. Toe overlap is especially bad with fenders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CS2 View Post
    I was kind of hoping somebody would jump on this one. Toe overlap is especially bad with fenders.
    I've got a 58cm 700c. No overlap without fenders. A very little bit with fenders. Not a problem. If I set the fenders up better, I might even be able to eliminate it. Oh yeah, mine is the old fashioned Trucker, not the Disc Trucker, but I don't imagine the geo is different at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celt View Post
    My conundrum is that I ride a 56cm frame and have the option of 26" or 700C.

    By any chance has anyone ridden both that could provide some insight as to the benefits of either?

    I have a Pacer that I adore, with no toe overlap. My concern with the 56cm and larger 700c wheels, I might have that issue.
    Do you have fenders on the Pacer?

    I have a 54cm LHT and CC; the LHT has been committed to 50mm tires and fenders
    forever. The CC spent a lot of time w/ 32mm tires but I have pushed it out to 40/45 before
    settling on 35s. I do have toe overlap w/ the 45 mm fenders I use (PB Cascadia) on the
    CC. No hint of toe overlap on the 26" LHT of course, I could mount a bottle on that fender.

    Toe overlap exists w/ the CC fenders (not the tires so much if I don't run fenders) but is
    only an issue when I am riding fixed gear, that is the only time I find myself slow enough
    or balancing enough to wind up w/ my foot between the fender and the frame. Then again
    maybe it's better w/ the 56cm frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CS2 View Post
    I was kind of hoping somebody would jump on this one. Toe overlap is especially bad with fenders.
    It really depends on what tyres your expecting to run. Most 26LHT tend to be built with big fat tyres like 2.0", outer diameter around 673mm. Most 700LHT seem to have smaller tyres like 35c, around 700mm diameter. (source for diameter info: justridingalong.com).

    If that the case then the outer diameter is only around 27mm different so the tyre (and therefore mudguard will only be 15mm closer to your foot. Obviously this all depends on your tyre size preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
    Do you have fenders on the Pacer?
    No fenders on the Pacer with the supplied 28's.

    It sounds like you've answered my question, if even in an indirect way.

    I wear a 45 shoe and if I were to put, lets say, a 37 on my Pacer (tire that comes with the built Disc Trucker 700C), I would indeed experience some toe overlap. In most conditions we know that a little overlap is no big deal.

    However, on a touring rig, with load and all, I could see it as a reasonable concern. If 26" wheels alleviate this, I think I know the direction I need to go. Any comments on the handling/feel of your LHT with 26? Do you find yourself wishing you had gone with 700C?
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    My LHT is the one bike I own where 26" feels like the perfect tire size. When I ride on the road with 26" mountain bikes I feel like a hamster on a wheel sometimes, not with the LHT. I use 1.85" slick tires. No desire for the 700c LHT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celt View Post
    However, on a touring rig, with load and all, I could see it as a reasonable concern. If 26" wheels alleviate this, I think I know the direction I need to go. Any comments on the handling/feel of your LHT with 26? Do you find yourself wishing you had gone with 700C?
    Well mine is 54cm so no choice of rim diameter for that size but I LOVE the ride of the 26" wheel LHT especially w/ a huge honking load. It is my one keeper bike if I had to empty out the garage for some reason. The 2nd to last one would be a steel road bike that is a lot like the pacer.

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    No pics of the 2013 grey/silver yet hey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    Oh wow!!

    That is a beautiful rig.

    Mind me asking what size fame compared to your height and inseam?
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    Thanks. I'm 5'7". I'm not sure of my inseam, I have long legs short torso, 31"? From center of crank to top of saddle is 73.5cm.

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    Right now my LHT is my favorite. Actually I like all of the Surly's(currently have three of them lol).

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    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/12497686@N08/8088951384/" title="trucker by thetaehome, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8187/8088951384_bf90dd5598_b.jpg" width="960" height="720" alt="trucker"></a>

    Loaded up and on a ferry during a family trip.

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    Excellent!

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    Lovely

    taehome, your Trucker looks brilliant
    You look fully loaded on the ferry, good to see
    Keep em coming.
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    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/21617002@N02/8096854465/" title="Surly Long Haul Trucker by SaddleUpBike, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8464/8096854465_4cfdfc1108_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="Surly Long Haul Trucker"></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    What bottles and cages are those? Bike looks great, dig those panniers also.
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    look like specialized rib cages.....?

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    Thanks!, yes Spec Rib Cages, best product Specialized makes. I use then off road on other bikes and have never dropped a bottle. The bottles are Klean Kanteen stainless steel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    best product Specialized makes

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    Thanks for the reply. I have the Klean Kanteen bottle cage and it throws the bottle when I crash hard.
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    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/saddleupbike/8121084978/" title="Surly Long Haul Trucker by SaddleUpBike, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8186/8121084978_20bfcc4314_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="Surly Long Haul Trucker"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/saddleupbike/8121084280/" title="Surly Long Haul Trucker by SaddleUpBike, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8187/8121084280_c480cf1469_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="Surly Long Haul Trucker"></a>

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    hey SaddleUp, did you used to run this with the open bar? how did you find it compared to the drops?

    i've swapped out my crosscheck frameset to a LHT (c'mon post man!!!) but i'm undecided between the two. Not the open bar specifically but the Ragley Carnegies that i had on my CC

    cheers
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    I like the open bar way more for comfort. The drop bar position is just more efficient. I'm trying to resist turning the LHT in to the Troll so I've kept the drop bars. On the road against the wind I'm happy with the drops, every time I ride the Troll I think about how comfortable the LHT would be with the open bar, and around and around I go.

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    26" LHT Rim Brake Success

    This has got me excited. The 26" LHT is rim brake 650b compatible! Thanks Shimano

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    I like the open bar way more for comfort. The drop bar position is just more efficient. I'm trying to resist turning the LHT in to the Troll so I've kept the drop bars. On the road against the wind I'm happy with the drops, every time I ride the Troll I think about how comfortable the LHT would be with the open bar, and around and around I go.
    That's the justification we all need to purchase multiple bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    This has got me excited. The 26" LHT is rim brake 650b compatible! Thanks Shimano

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/saddleupbike/8159878933/" title="650b LHT by SaddleUpBike, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8339/8159878933_4dd70588b6_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="650b LHT"></a>
    That is nice. Care to share what kind of brakes you used? The build details would be nice too.
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    Sure. The brakes are the new cyclocross CX50's from Shimano, the CX70 works also.

    Deore hubs on Velocity Synergy 650b rims
    XT fr and rr derailleurs
    XT cassette and chain
    Deore 26/36/48 crankset
    Dura Ace 9 speed bar ends

    Shimano has come through big time with these brakes. I tried many others without success including a couple of versions of vintage Shimano with the larger range of adjustability. I could never get the pad to strike the rim flat.

    Front
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/saddleupbike/8159911506/" title="650b LHT by SaddleUpBike, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7119/8159911506_9850277a4d_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="650b LHT"></a>

    Rear
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/saddleupbike/8159912382/" title="650b LHT by SaddleUpBike, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7133/8159912382_7ccb911828_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="650b LHT"></a>

    This opens up a bunch of possibilities for this bike. A blue collar Rivendell is my first thought. I get some rub with the 2.1" Nevegal that is mounted. A less knobby tire or something like a 2" Small Block Eight would fit right in. Like I talked about above I don't need to turn the LHT in to the Troll so I have a pair of Continental Tour Ride 650b x 1.5" tires on the way.

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    Sweet bike, Saddle Up! I love Monster Truckers.

    I bet you could probably get a Pacenti Quasi-Moto to fit too.

    Blue collar Rivendell - exactly how I think of my LHT. Maybe because I don't ever tour, I just do everything else on my Trucker.

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    this is more what I had in mind

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/saddleupbike/8176485693/" title="650b Long Haul Trucker by SaddleUpBike, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8207/8176485693_ceaca223d0_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="650b Long Haul Trucker"></a>

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    What an awesome Trucker.

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    heres my newly built LHT, i like it although it's very similar to my Troll (ie flat bars etc) so i'm wondering why i built it in the first place now!



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    Steve I know how you feel. Surly bikes are so versatile that when you have more than one there is the risk that they will overlap. Now that I see your LHT it makes the answer to your question in your other thread obvious to me. Use the LHT for road surfaces either pavement or gravel and the Troll for off road trail riding.

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    i suspect your right, any suggestions on a comfortable drop bar and brake levers? i've had a few drop bars on touring bikes before but struggled to find a comfortable set of brake hoods.

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    I like short and shallow bars like the Salsa Cowbell 2 and the FSA Compact. I either grap the bar on the top or in the drops, rarely do I ride the brake hoods. The Cowbell 2 feels so natural because of the angle it puts your wrists in when riding the top.

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    thanks for that, what levers are you using?

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    Tire question

    Nice LHTs.

    Looks like 26" are the better choice for rough gravel. Looking through the pictures, it looks like 2.0 tires will fit. I didn't see any with fenders.

    Are there fenders out for something that fat?

    Has anyone tried a conservative 29er MTB tire on the 700 rim with any succes?

    Thanks

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    There are a lot of 65mm full fenders. PB Cascadias, for one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveJfromtheSwitch View Post
    thanks for that, what levers are you using?
    Tektro in the past but have a pair of Shimano's installed. Just waiting for the weather to improve so I can take the LHT for a good ride. 10-20cm of snow is coming our way, it's -12 celsius right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaskaStinson View Post
    Nice LHTs.

    Looks like 26" are the better choice for rough gravel. Looking through the pictures, it looks like 2.0 tires will fit. I didn't see any with fenders.

    Are there fenders out for something that fat?

    Has anyone tried a conservative 29er MTB tire on the 700 rim with any succes?

    Thanks

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    Widest tire that fits on the 700c LHT is 45mm. You could go a little wider in the front, maybe up to 2", but to chainstay won't fit anything bigger than 45mm in the rear. A lot of good narrow 29er/monstercross/gravel tires will fit including Panaracer Firecross, the new Clement X'plor tires, the Bruce Gordon Rock n Road and the wider and knobbier Schwalbe Marathons like Dureme and Extreme. There are, however, a lot more tire options for 26".

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    Quote Originally Posted by bolandjd View Post
    Widest tire that fits on the 700c LHT is 45mm. You could go a little wider in the front, maybe up to 2", but to chainstay won't fit anything bigger than 45mm in the rear. A lot of good narrow 29er/monstercross/gravel tires will fit including Panaracer Firecross, the new Clement X'plor tires, the Bruce Gordon Rock n Road and the wider and knobbier Schwalbe Marathons like Dureme and Extreme. There are, however, a lot more tire options for 26".
    I have a pair of BG RnRs on my CC right now (just reposted a picture in the CC thread). No fender clearance in rear, so if that bike gets back on the road before July it's going to need to revert to the 35mm tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    I could never get the pad to strike the rim flat.
    They shouldn't be flat. Brakes should be slight 'toed in' so the front of the pad strikes first.


    From Sheldon Brown's site;
    When a brake shoe presses against a moving rim, the pull of the rim causes the brake arm to flex a bit. If your brake shoes hit a stationary rim perfectly straight and squarely, the flex of the brake arm will cause the rear edge of the brake shoe to do the brunt of the work. The front edge of the shoe may not even be engaging the rim under hard braking.
    Good practice in installing brake shoes is to "toe them in", so that the front part of the shoe hits the rim first. As the brake arm flexes under real braking, it will permit the whole surface of the brake shoe to engage the rim.
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