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    Once I'm done with camping/touring for the year I'll most likely put upright bars and fenders on my LHT for commuting duties.

    I can see how you'd maybe get a little wobbly on a decent with all the gear up high like that. Definitely worth investing in a rack and panniers for carrying your load. As I mentioned above, I was really happy with the way the LHT handled even with a rear biased load.
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    Long day on the LHT + t-a-b w/ my 6 yo daughter today. Wife and 10 yo son on their own bikes. Thinking about taking the LHT rather than the fixed CC on a distance ride tomorrow.

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    Have you made the change for the handle bars and added the iBert yet? i would like to see pics if you have them. i am looking to do the same thing with my LHT, 62cm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bxrman View Post
    Have you made the change for the handle bars and added the iBert yet? i would like to see pics if you have them. i am looking to do the same thing with my LHT, 62cm.
    Yep! (Assuming you were talking to me). I have had it switched over for a little under 2 months now. These pictures show the iBert "stinger" but not the actual seat. This is a 58cm LHT.

    Impressions: I had to switch out the stock seatpost for this one in order to prevent my knees from hitting the iBert. They were only just barely touching but now they don't at all. I was worried I'd have to switch to a more supportive seat but so far even with the more upright riding position the B-17 has been fine, I just put the nose up a touch.

    Also, I am using the stock stem, but I also bought two 135mm stems (two different angles) in case I want to put the bars a little forward. I am ok as is but I could probably stand to use one of those stems, just haven't gotten around to trying them yet. It was hard to find a longer stem though- one is a cheap eBay stem and the other is a Thorn model I had to order from SJS Cycles in the UK. The steering with the stock stem and the upright bars felt slightly twitchy compared to the drops, so a longer stem may alleviate that, but I got used to it.

    The bars are Nitto North Road bars (very similar to Nitto Albatross bars but Rivendell was sold out of Albatross bars for the whole summer ), with Rivendell portuguese cork grips and twine, I shellac'd and tied them using the how-to Rivendell posted on YouTube, it was fun.

    The iBert is as great as it was on my Pugsley, it's a real fun seat to use.

    The pictures aren't really great angles of the handlebars from an asthetic standpoint, they look far nicer in person, haha.




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    Thank You

    Looks great, that gives me a ton of information, i am stretched out with my frame, so it will be interesting to see how the seat interacts with my knees, my wife is a little concerned about our son riding up with me, she would rather have a trailor, but i really like the ibert and the positioning.

    Thanks again!!

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    Honestly, my son has never been a problem- he is right between my arms which barely affects my center of gravity. I have never had a situation where we were unstable. Plus he gets the wind in his face, and the good view. I am fairly certain that the smile-factor would be far lower with a trailer.

    I should also point out that if you are considering other front-mount seats, I bought the Wee Ride from Toys R Us before I bought the iBert. Installed it on my Pugsley, and couldn't pedal, it interfered far too much with my legs. Returned it and found an LBS with an iBert in stock same day, so I had back to back comparison. Aside from the fit, it's just plain better hardware with the iBert.

    Also, depending on how much space you have on your stem, you can adjust the distance of the iBert from you by raising or lowering it on the stem.

    Worst case scenario, you can likely flip the iBert on Craigslist if it doesn't work for you, for very close to what you paid for it.

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    I am coming back to the LHT and this time i'm keeping it. I should have it Friday and it will be black and stock. I will make changes along the way. First will be a rack and fenders. Only two more days!

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    Awesome Truckers!

    Is anyone riding a 62cm Trucker with 26" wheels? Does it seem ridiculous to have 26" wheels on a frame this big?

    Is anyone using a flat bar on a Trucker? I'm considering a LHT build with a flat bar with bar ends or a Surly Open Bar and am wondering if the handling would be funny at all with a 120mm or so stem.

    Mangoman, did you get a different length stem for your Modolo Yuma?

    I see many of you are using v-brakes with fenders and racks. I'm guessing I would have no problem with 2.0 tires, fenders, racks, and Avid SD-7 brakes?

    How low is the LHT bottom bracket, really? I'm used to touring on a Big Dummy, and I'm wondering if I'll be able to hit the dirt on the LHT like I can on the Dummy, given the same tires. I'm also considering a Troll, but would appreciate the longer chainstays of the LHT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbryant2 View Post
    Awesome Truckers!

    Is anyone riding a 62cm Trucker with 26" wheels? Does it seem ridiculous to have 26" wheels on a frame this big?

    Is anyone using a flat bar on a Trucker? I'm considering a LHT build with a flat bar with bar ends or a Surly Open Bar and am wondering if the handling would be funny at all with a 120mm or so stem.

    Mangoman, did you get a different length stem for your Modolo Yuma?

    I see many of you are using v-brakes with fenders and racks. I'm guessing I would have no problem with 2.0 tires, fenders, racks, and Avid SD-7 brakes?

    How low is the LHT bottom bracket, really? I'm used to touring on a Big Dummy, and I'm wondering if I'll be able to hit the dirt on the LHT like I can on the Dummy, given the same tires. I'm also considering a Troll, but would appreciate the longer chainstays of the LHT.
    26" wheels on a 62cm frame look a little silly, to my eyes. But nothing silly for real about 26" wheels - lots of good reasons to use them. For one thing, the 26" Truckers can fit fatter tires finer - which is great if you want to run offroad knobbies.

    Flat bar truckers look great - sort of like retro mountain bikes. Mine would look killer with a bull moose-style bar. Hmmm . Might have to try it. Mountain Goat Goat-horn bar, maybe.

    My LHT is a 700c, but I think the BB height is about the same as 26". Close enough, anyway. LHT is definitely dirtable, but you do need to watch the clearance. Gravel, fireroads, buff singletrack - no problem. Rock gardens, rutted off-camber trails (especially climbing), anything remotely technical - not so much. Troll might be a better choice if you want ride mostly offroad.

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    Rides great with flat bars. 54cm with 120mm stem.
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    Alright...

    I ordered a Trucker frameset this morning. I didn't take much convincing. This thread won me over: http://forums.mtbr.com/endurance-rac...ke-451468.html. I'll post pictures once the bike is built up, but picture a blue frame, black components (Mr. Whirly cranks, Open Bar, B-17), cork grips, and gumwall tires.

    I need a bike for commuting and touring that I can take on buses and trains, something smaller and easier to manage than my Big Dummy. I will also be riding my first century in a few weeks and was not about to do in on the Dummy (although I could ).

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    Here is my LHT:
    I currently have some SKS fenders on it with a VO leather mudflap on the front. They were great this past week in SE TN.

    I am currently running Shimano A520 pedals and was thinking of going back to my MKS touring pedals. For those of you that are using flat pedals, MKS touring or Grip Kings, what kind of shoes are you wearing with them? Just curious.
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    "Rides great with flat bars. 54cm with 120mm stem. "




    smedly_whiplash- Every time I think a Cross Check is the bike for me I see a pic like this, and the process starts all over again. That bike looks like a ton of fun!

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    '07 LHT, XT drivetrain with Dura Ace 7402 brifters, Mavic CrossMax wheels, Maxxis Overdrive tires, 3T bar/stem, Axiom DLX rack, Chris King headset. These photos show it's summer loaded touring mode. I convert it to Truckercross mode for fall and winter snow riding. It does everything great except go fast.
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    Beauty Neil! What size frame is that, 54?

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    thanks! It's a 50cm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jct View Post
    i just scored a 42cm LHT frame in olive green for my wife for $230.

    sweet!
    Did you put a gun to the guys head lol. JK
    You got a great deal for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Brewster View Post
    thanks! It's a 50cm.
    Wow are those 26" wheels misleading

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    There are a few LHT's on ebay right now. Looks like they hold their value well.

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    Grocery store run


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    Love the iBert seat! I have been using one for about a year and a half, going on two years I guess. Sadly, this will be our last summer until baby number two arrives.

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    I'm in a similar boat, I only started using it in the spring and my son is 2 1/2, I think by next spring he'll definitely be out of it. Which is sad because we absolutely love using it. I guess he'll have to go to rear mount.

    He does have a Specialized Hotwalk that he started using about a month ago, so maybe come springtime he'll be pedalling on his own

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    Quote Originally Posted by jct View Post
    ebay! lots of good deals. keep checking.

    also, i've seen some really nice deals on LHTs and CCs on craigslist in the bay area.
    +1 on ebay. I just scored a nice Pacer for $190 shipped for my wife. It's going to be a nice winter project. If you're persistent, you can get some great deals on ebay. Good luck
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    Here is my usual commute setup, 2 panniers + bar bag, and room for whatever else
    comes up on the day.



    I can do the fore/aft no pannier thing like Rivendell and Carradice seem to want.



    (that in the front is both a pillow *and* a pet).

    Here is today, 40# of produce (24# of apples and pears in the front panniers).



    I appreciate the 'naked LHT' thread but between the bar bag and coffee (and fenders),
    mine is just never going to be stripped that far down.

    This bike is pushing 11k miles and has been stable for 3+ yrs now (no more changes),
    other than swapping the pedals and a couple wks ago removing the trailer QR
    (kids outgrew the trailer)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
    This bike is pushing 11k miles and has been stable for 3+ yrs now (no more changes),
    other than swapping the pedals and a couple wks ago removing the trailer QR
    (kids outgrew the trailer)
    Nice lookin', hard workin' Trucker. I really like your tires. Big and balloony. Must be 26".

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    Yep, 54cm frame, so no choice on wheel size (but tire clearance was the biggest factor in choosing that frame vs various other touring or cross options in the first place, way back when)

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    awesome gravel grinder

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    Saddle Up, that bike looks awesome.
    What Crank is that? and What front rack?

    It looks like the crank has the chain guard. I ride with long pants on and hate to wrap my leg. I usually forget to till I've destroyed my pants.

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    Thanks tommignon. The crank is the trekking version of the Deore, 26/36/48 t chainrings. The front rack is from Axiom, designed to support a basket, perfect for a nice big handlebar bag.

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    Changed the bar from a WTB Mountain/Road Drop to a Salsa Cowbell 2, shorter and shallower, I'll see how I like it. I may resort to a short and shallow FSA bar. I'm trying to like drop bars on the LHT, I'm just not there yet. 40+mm of spacers a +16 stem in an attempt to get the top of the bar even with the saddle. New tires and gone naked for a while.


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    Every time I think about switching to something like an open bar or north road bar on my LHT I wind up commuting home into a massive headwind off the water and I'm glad for the drops to pull me somewhat out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
    Every time I think about switching to something like an open bar or north road bar on my LHT I wind up commuting home into a massive headwind off the water and I'm glad for the drops to pull me somewhat out of it.


    We use Titec H-bars & Jeff Jones Loop H-bars on a few of our bikes and they provide a relaxed cruising position as well as a low forward aero position.

    Might be worth a look.

    BTW - ignore the hacked IGH shifter/grip setup. That was a short term configuration to validate my GF like the bars in general before we bought a IGH trigger shifter for her.
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    I've been trying to find somewhere that still stocks Titec bars, not having much luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    I've been trying to find somewhere that still stocks Titec bars, not having much luck.
    Jeff Jones is selling the Loop H-Bar which is nice and actually works better with most brake/shifter combos than the Titec H-Bar.

    Jeff's bars cost more, but the price isn't unreasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    Jeff Jones is selling the Loop H-Bar which is nice and actually works better with most brake/shifter combos than the Titec H-Bar.

    Jeff's bars cost more, but the price isn't unreasonable.
    All out of stock apparently. Sigh... I do have and like a titec h-bar but I would rather not swap it off the bike it's on.

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    You know those stress dreams where your brain is constantly trying to solve a problem or decision that's impossible to solve? I had that last night, kept me from getting a decent night's sleep. It was whether to get a disc trucker and swap all the parts over from my Salsa Vaya, or get a canti trucker and build a cheaper 'city bike' type build on it. Or some mix of the two.

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    I wish they made just one model of the LHT with both discs tabs and canti posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    I wish they made just one model of the LHT with both discs tabs and canti posts.
    Exactly what I thought when I got up this morning!

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    adding disc tabs isn't that much else to throw onto the brazer's dream of the LHT frame anyway is it, in addition to the chain hanger, pump thingy (wish I could move that to another bike), spoke holders, bottle mounts, rack mounts, fender mounts...

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    I could easily build two LHT's, one Disc model with drops and full touring setup and the other canti with a cheap & durable build, fat tires meant for heavy duty city use (including some jumping off stuff, etc). So many daydreams, so little extra space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostBoyScout View Post
    I could easily build two LHT's, one Disc model with drops and full touring setup and the other canti with a cheap & durable build, fat tires meant for heavy duty city use (including some jumping off stuff, etc). So many daydreams, so little extra space.
    Two thoughts:

    1. I'd go the other way - discs on the urban fun bike, simple reliable rim brakes on the tourer

    2. I could be build up two versions of just about every Surly bike. Maybe not the Dummy. But all the others.

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    Discs are as simple and reliable as rim brakes IMO, and the canti brakes for city use is all about theft deterrence for me. It would be de-decaled too

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    I've put a lot of miles on my LHT, road and dirt.






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    Have to see how this works. My riding is going to be pretty substantially curtailed for a while due to injury and these bars are a nod to that.

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    If those are Albatross bars - can't go wrong man. Absolutely love mine. It just changes your whole demeanor on the bike.

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    I'm so tempted to go back to a Surly Open bar. I've been riding drop bars on my LHT for most of the summer but just cannot completely come to terms with them. It's not because I'm out of shape, or feel pain or discomfort or anything like that, I have a Pacer that will be set up with an aggressive riding position, It's because the LHT has the potential to be the most comfortable bike ever made. I'm never in that big of a hurry on the LHT where aerodynamics enter into the equation. Sitting upright just feels natural on that bike, it doesn't seem to change how the power transfers to the back wheel.

    I like how Holmes put it, "the demeanor", I've found that being more upright and comfortable on the LHT does not change how it pedals and performs, the thing just rolls along. Maybe other LHT riders can relate to what I'm trying to say.

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    I said this elsewhere, I'd love to set-up a 26" Disc Trucker with an Open Bar as a homage to the Bridgestone XO-1. Seems like it would make the ideal commuter for here in Portland.

    @HardyW, love your LHT.
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    Totally lusting after a LHT. I may be able to justify it as being a car replacement on days when I have a ton of stuff to carry. Not that I ever have that much stuff, but these rigs look so comfortable for every day use.

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    They truly shine under a ginormous load.

    Thanks for the bar feedback guys! Those are cromo north road bars. Since they are cromo I am considering pushing the ends out to I guess widen the sweep if they prove to be too narrow as is.

    For my current needs the demeanor these bars inspire is definitely where I'm aiming!

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