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    A Disc Trucker it is...

    My conundrum is that I ride a 56cm frame and have the option of 26" or 700C.

    By any chance has anyone ridden both that could provide some insight as to the benefits of either?

    I have a Pacer that I adore, with no toe overlap. My concern with the 56cm and larger 700c wheels, I might have that issue.
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    Really nice bikes guys.

    Say, are there other upright bars that will fit barcon shifters, or is the Nitto Albatros the only show in town? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bolandjd View Post
    Really nice bikes guys.

    Say, are there other upright bars that will fit barcon shifters, or is the Nitto Albatros the only show in town? Thanks.
    the surly open bar actually fits bar end shifters. it looks a little goofy and i doubt they had BE's in mind when making the bar, but they do fit. i wanted an upright-ish bar that would fit BE's so i could easily swap out the drop bars from time to time on my cross check.
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    north road bars also take bar ends

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjwall View Post
    the surly open bar actually fits bar end shifters. it looks a little goofy and i doubt they had BE's in mind when making the bar, but they do fit. i wanted an upright-ish bar that would fit BE's so i could easily swap out the drop bars from time to time on my cross check.
    Good to know. Looks nice too. Anybody have a preference for Albo vs. Open Bar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
    north road bars also take bar ends
    Nitto North Road or somebody else's?

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    Nitto North Road cromo, not sure if they are different from their alu ones; I have not tried any others so don't have an opinion; maybe should have gone albatross. Not much black on the bike so I was just looking for something silver instead of the open bar (or maybe they do have that in silver and I didn't look hard enough)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celt View Post
    My conundrum is that I ride a 56cm frame and have the option of 26" or 700C.

    By any chance has anyone ridden both that could provide some insight as to the benefits of either?

    I have a Pacer that I adore, with no toe overlap. My concern with the 56cm and larger 700c wheels, I might have that issue.
    I was kind of hoping somebody would jump on this one. Toe overlap is especially bad with fenders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CS2 View Post
    I was kind of hoping somebody would jump on this one. Toe overlap is especially bad with fenders.
    I've got a 58cm 700c. No overlap without fenders. A very little bit with fenders. Not a problem. If I set the fenders up better, I might even be able to eliminate it. Oh yeah, mine is the old fashioned Trucker, not the Disc Trucker, but I don't imagine the geo is different at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celt View Post
    My conundrum is that I ride a 56cm frame and have the option of 26" or 700C.

    By any chance has anyone ridden both that could provide some insight as to the benefits of either?

    I have a Pacer that I adore, with no toe overlap. My concern with the 56cm and larger 700c wheels, I might have that issue.
    Do you have fenders on the Pacer?

    I have a 54cm LHT and CC; the LHT has been committed to 50mm tires and fenders
    forever. The CC spent a lot of time w/ 32mm tires but I have pushed it out to 40/45 before
    settling on 35s. I do have toe overlap w/ the 45 mm fenders I use (PB Cascadia) on the
    CC. No hint of toe overlap on the 26" LHT of course, I could mount a bottle on that fender.

    Toe overlap exists w/ the CC fenders (not the tires so much if I don't run fenders) but is
    only an issue when I am riding fixed gear, that is the only time I find myself slow enough
    or balancing enough to wind up w/ my foot between the fender and the frame. Then again
    maybe it's better w/ the 56cm frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CS2 View Post
    I was kind of hoping somebody would jump on this one. Toe overlap is especially bad with fenders.
    It really depends on what tyres your expecting to run. Most 26LHT tend to be built with big fat tyres like 2.0", outer diameter around 673mm. Most 700LHT seem to have smaller tyres like 35c, around 700mm diameter. (source for diameter info: justridingalong.com).

    If that the case then the outer diameter is only around 27mm different so the tyre (and therefore mudguard will only be 15mm closer to your foot. Obviously this all depends on your tyre size preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
    Do you have fenders on the Pacer?
    No fenders on the Pacer with the supplied 28's.

    It sounds like you've answered my question, if even in an indirect way.

    I wear a 45 shoe and if I were to put, lets say, a 37 on my Pacer (tire that comes with the built Disc Trucker 700C), I would indeed experience some toe overlap. In most conditions we know that a little overlap is no big deal.

    However, on a touring rig, with load and all, I could see it as a reasonable concern. If 26" wheels alleviate this, I think I know the direction I need to go. Any comments on the handling/feel of your LHT with 26? Do you find yourself wishing you had gone with 700C?
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    My LHT is the one bike I own where 26" feels like the perfect tire size. When I ride on the road with 26" mountain bikes I feel like a hamster on a wheel sometimes, not with the LHT. I use 1.85" slick tires. No desire for the 700c LHT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celt View Post
    However, on a touring rig, with load and all, I could see it as a reasonable concern. If 26" wheels alleviate this, I think I know the direction I need to go. Any comments on the handling/feel of your LHT with 26? Do you find yourself wishing you had gone with 700C?
    Well mine is 54cm so no choice of rim diameter for that size but I LOVE the ride of the 26" wheel LHT especially w/ a huge honking load. It is my one keeper bike if I had to empty out the garage for some reason. The 2nd to last one would be a steel road bike that is a lot like the pacer.

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    No pics of the 2013 grey/silver yet hey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    Oh wow!!

    That is a beautiful rig.

    Mind me asking what size fame compared to your height and inseam?
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    Thanks. I'm 5'7". I'm not sure of my inseam, I have long legs short torso, 31"? From center of crank to top of saddle is 73.5cm.

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    Right now my LHT is my favorite. Actually I like all of the Surly's(currently have three of them lol).

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    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/12497686@N08/8088951384/" title="trucker by thetaehome, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8187/8088951384_bf90dd5598_b.jpg" width="960" height="720" alt="trucker"></a>

    Loaded up and on a ferry during a family trip.

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    Excellent!

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    Lovely

    taehome, your Trucker looks brilliant
    You look fully loaded on the ferry, good to see
    Keep em coming.
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    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/21617002@N02/8096854465/" title="Surly Long Haul Trucker by SaddleUpBike, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8464/8096854465_4cfdfc1108_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="Surly Long Haul Trucker"></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    What bottles and cages are those? Bike looks great, dig those panniers also.
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    look like specialized rib cages.....?

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    Thanks!, yes Spec Rib Cages, best product Specialized makes. I use then off road on other bikes and have never dropped a bottle. The bottles are Klean Kanteen stainless steel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    best product Specialized makes

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    Thanks for the reply. I have the Klean Kanteen bottle cage and it throws the bottle when I crash hard.
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    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/saddleupbike/8121084978/" title="Surly Long Haul Trucker by SaddleUpBike, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8186/8121084978_20bfcc4314_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="Surly Long Haul Trucker"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/saddleupbike/8121084280/" title="Surly Long Haul Trucker by SaddleUpBike, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8187/8121084280_c480cf1469_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="Surly Long Haul Trucker"></a>

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    hey SaddleUp, did you used to run this with the open bar? how did you find it compared to the drops?

    i've swapped out my crosscheck frameset to a LHT (c'mon post man!!!) but i'm undecided between the two. Not the open bar specifically but the Ragley Carnegies that i had on my CC

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    I like the open bar way more for comfort. The drop bar position is just more efficient. I'm trying to resist turning the LHT in to the Troll so I've kept the drop bars. On the road against the wind I'm happy with the drops, every time I ride the Troll I think about how comfortable the LHT would be with the open bar, and around and around I go.

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    26" LHT Rim Brake Success

    This has got me excited. The 26" LHT is rim brake 650b compatible! Thanks Shimano

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    I like the open bar way more for comfort. The drop bar position is just more efficient. I'm trying to resist turning the LHT in to the Troll so I've kept the drop bars. On the road against the wind I'm happy with the drops, every time I ride the Troll I think about how comfortable the LHT would be with the open bar, and around and around I go.
    That's the justification we all need to purchase multiple bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    This has got me excited. The 26" LHT is rim brake 650b compatible! Thanks Shimano

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/saddleupbike/8159878933/" title="650b LHT by SaddleUpBike, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8339/8159878933_4dd70588b6_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="650b LHT"></a>
    That is nice. Care to share what kind of brakes you used? The build details would be nice too.
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    Sure. The brakes are the new cyclocross CX50's from Shimano, the CX70 works also.

    Deore hubs on Velocity Synergy 650b rims
    XT fr and rr derailleurs
    XT cassette and chain
    Deore 26/36/48 crankset
    Dura Ace 9 speed bar ends

    Shimano has come through big time with these brakes. I tried many others without success including a couple of versions of vintage Shimano with the larger range of adjustability. I could never get the pad to strike the rim flat.

    Front
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/saddleupbike/8159911506/" title="650b LHT by SaddleUpBike, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7119/8159911506_9850277a4d_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="650b LHT"></a>

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    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/saddleupbike/8159912382/" title="650b LHT by SaddleUpBike, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7133/8159912382_7ccb911828_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="650b LHT"></a>

    This opens up a bunch of possibilities for this bike. A blue collar Rivendell is my first thought. I get some rub with the 2.1" Nevegal that is mounted. A less knobby tire or something like a 2" Small Block Eight would fit right in. Like I talked about above I don't need to turn the LHT in to the Troll so I have a pair of Continental Tour Ride 650b x 1.5" tires on the way.

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    Sweet bike, Saddle Up! I love Monster Truckers.

    I bet you could probably get a Pacenti Quasi-Moto to fit too.

    Blue collar Rivendell - exactly how I think of my LHT. Maybe because I don't ever tour, I just do everything else on my Trucker.

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    this is more what I had in mind

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/saddleupbike/8176485693/" title="650b Long Haul Trucker by SaddleUpBike, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8207/8176485693_ceaca223d0_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="650b Long Haul Trucker"></a>

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    What an awesome Trucker.

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    heres my newly built LHT, i like it although it's very similar to my Troll (ie flat bars etc) so i'm wondering why i built it in the first place now!



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    Steve I know how you feel. Surly bikes are so versatile that when you have more than one there is the risk that they will overlap. Now that I see your LHT it makes the answer to your question in your other thread obvious to me. Use the LHT for road surfaces either pavement or gravel and the Troll for off road trail riding.

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    i suspect your right, any suggestions on a comfortable drop bar and brake levers? i've had a few drop bars on touring bikes before but struggled to find a comfortable set of brake hoods.

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    I like short and shallow bars like the Salsa Cowbell 2 and the FSA Compact. I either grap the bar on the top or in the drops, rarely do I ride the brake hoods. The Cowbell 2 feels so natural because of the angle it puts your wrists in when riding the top.

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    thanks for that, what levers are you using?

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    Tire question

    Nice LHTs.

    Looks like 26" are the better choice for rough gravel. Looking through the pictures, it looks like 2.0 tires will fit. I didn't see any with fenders.

    Are there fenders out for something that fat?

    Has anyone tried a conservative 29er MTB tire on the 700 rim with any succes?

    Thanks

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    There are a lot of 65mm full fenders. PB Cascadias, for one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveJfromtheSwitch View Post
    thanks for that, what levers are you using?
    Tektro in the past but have a pair of Shimano's installed. Just waiting for the weather to improve so I can take the LHT for a good ride. 10-20cm of snow is coming our way, it's -12 celsius right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaskaStinson View Post
    Nice LHTs.

    Looks like 26" are the better choice for rough gravel. Looking through the pictures, it looks like 2.0 tires will fit. I didn't see any with fenders.

    Are there fenders out for something that fat?

    Has anyone tried a conservative 29er MTB tire on the 700 rim with any succes?

    Thanks

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    Widest tire that fits on the 700c LHT is 45mm. You could go a little wider in the front, maybe up to 2", but to chainstay won't fit anything bigger than 45mm in the rear. A lot of good narrow 29er/monstercross/gravel tires will fit including Panaracer Firecross, the new Clement X'plor tires, the Bruce Gordon Rock n Road and the wider and knobbier Schwalbe Marathons like Dureme and Extreme. There are, however, a lot more tire options for 26".

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    Quote Originally Posted by bolandjd View Post
    Widest tire that fits on the 700c LHT is 45mm. You could go a little wider in the front, maybe up to 2", but to chainstay won't fit anything bigger than 45mm in the rear. A lot of good narrow 29er/monstercross/gravel tires will fit including Panaracer Firecross, the new Clement X'plor tires, the Bruce Gordon Rock n Road and the wider and knobbier Schwalbe Marathons like Dureme and Extreme. There are, however, a lot more tire options for 26".
    I have a pair of BG RnRs on my CC right now (just reposted a picture in the CC thread). No fender clearance in rear, so if that bike gets back on the road before July it's going to need to revert to the 35mm tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    I could never get the pad to strike the rim flat.
    They shouldn't be flat. Brakes should be slight 'toed in' so the front of the pad strikes first.


    From Sheldon Brown's site;
    When a brake shoe presses against a moving rim, the pull of the rim causes the brake arm to flex a bit. If your brake shoes hit a stationary rim perfectly straight and squarely, the flex of the brake arm will cause the rear edge of the brake shoe to do the brunt of the work. The front edge of the shoe may not even be engaging the rim under hard braking.
    Good practice in installing brake shoes is to "toe them in", so that the front part of the shoe hits the rim first. As the brake arm flexes under real braking, it will permit the whole surface of the brake shoe to engage the rim.
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    Just picked my girlfriend up a new Trucker to add to the fleet last night. The new Smoggy Pearl is pretty killer in the sunlight! Temps here are about -5 so once it warms up a bit I'll take some daylight pics.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveJfromtheSwitch View Post
    heres my newly built LHT, i like it although it's very similar to my Troll (ie flat bars etc) so i'm wondering why i built it in the first place now!


    I ask myself the same question every time I look at my Pacer, Crosscheck, and 700c Trucker... They have different bars and the CC is a single speed, but still lots of overlap. At least the Karate Monkey can be called a mountain bike!

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    This thread needed to come back to the top.

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    I agree

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    Nice morning ride
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    Traveling lighter without the Ortliebs.
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    Taking in the view before heading home.
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    Long Haul Rambler

    Love my LHT. No major tours this year but hopefully a 3 day solo big mileage trip in June.

    Here's my LHT looking south towards the Clackamas River just outside of Estacada, OR. This was on a nice 90 mile ramble last month. We had a couple of weeks of unseasonably brilliant sunshine and warm temps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfltroll View Post
    Love my LHT. No major tours this year but I'm going to ride the hell out of it anyways because even though it's a touring bike it's just so much fun.
    Fixed it for ya .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
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    My LHT is a bit of a tank.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    My LHT is a bit of a tank.


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    Long Haul Truckers...

    I'm currently building my 26" trucker. It's a 52cm frame with disc brakes. I'm going to run it as a 1x9 with some flat bars and Ergon grips. The rear wheel is running a road cassette and a 105 derailuer shifted by a LX 9 speed shifter.

    My frame looks like there's a whole lot of wheel clearance and looks like it could run a 700c wheel. Has anyone used 700c wheels on a 26in frame?

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    your bottom bracket will be jacked up over an inch higher than it wants to be

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScaryJerry View Post
    your bottom bracket will be jacked up over an inch higher than it wants to be
    Not neccessarily. Depends on tire size

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    my 62cm disc trucker came in today... I rushed to the shop to pick it up and had him swap headsets for me.... got it home and then found that the rear dropouts had been bent in shipping :-/... back to the shop and waiting for another one to get here

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    That sucks, my buddies CC arrived with 143mm rear spacing.

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    If I got a new frame like that, I would send it back as well. But there's always the 2x4 option:


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    Quote Originally Posted by seat_boy View Post
    If I got a new frame like that, I would send it back as well. But there's always the 2x4 option:

    hey... you've got my bars ;-)...

    ya if it wasn't a brand new frame I would have just cold set it with the 2x4 option... but being new I'm not to keen on the idea... in fact thats what I told the shop owner... I'm willing to sacrifice a few days out only because I want it right from the factory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donalson View Post
    hey... you've got my bars ;-)...

    ya if it wasn't a brand new frame I would have just cold set it with the 2x4 option... but being new I'm not to keen on the idea... in fact thats what I told the shop owner... I'm willing to sacrifice a few days out only because I want it right from the factory.
    Good call. Unless you got a discount for a blem, you deserve it perfect out of the box. You'd probably void the warrantee trying to cold-set it yourself.

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    My 26" Long Haul Trucker with a 2.3" tyre on the front and a 2.1" at the rear. Very versatile bike, I commute on it, I take it off road, did a loaded tour of Spain and Portugal on it, collect my groceries….
    It's such a great bike. Thanks Surly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timothymc View Post
    My 26" Long Haul Trucker with a 2.3" tyre on the front and a 2.1" at the rear. Very versatile bike, I commute on it, I take it off road, did a loaded tour of Spain and Portugal on it, collect my groceries….
    It's such a great bike. Thanks Surly.
    That's nice, timothymc. I like the overall set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timothymc View Post
    My 26" Long Haul Trucker with a 2.3" tyre on the front and a 2.1" at the rear. Very versatile bike, I commute on it, I take it off road, did a loaded tour of Spain and Portugal on it, collect my groceries….
    It's such a great bike. Thanks Surly.
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    put a long stem and a flat bar on it and it would really look like an old school MTB... awesome ride man
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    a shot of her looking over the lake
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    Nice bike! Looks like you got your frame issues sorted out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolandjd View Post
    Nice bike! Looks like you got your frame issues sorted out.
    thanks, I like it... I thought i'd posted "I finished" pics of it in here but apparently not doh... I've done a few hundred miles on it so far... still love the titec/jones bar for the road and the dual controls are a perfect complement to them... I can shift and brake from most hand positions, the wide bontrager rims push the 32c tire out to something around 36mm wide or so, my only critique with the rims is that because they are tubless compatible the way they hook the bead makes it VERY difficult to both remove and mount a tire, it's difficult to get the bead broken and once it's broken it takes some high pressure to get the bead to pop into the seat again... was the same thing with real 29er tires but because they where larger they where a bit easier to mount/remove I suppose

    sadly she's sidelined for another few days... I noticed a bit of drag on the rear wheel so went to pull the hub apart and rebuild and found that one of the cones had some big/bad pitting and no local shops had the part in stock... new cone and bearings should be in tommarow... waiting on some $$$ to pick up some fenders and trying to decide what racks to get/use... have a tour across the Katy trail up in MO planned in May with a friend
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    Can you post a closeup of your cockpit with the Jones bars? I'd be interested to see how the setup looks
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbphilly View Post
    Can you post a closeup of your cockpit with the Jones bars? I'd be interested to see how the setup looks
    I think this is about the best I have with it on this bike
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    here the same setup is on my 1x1 before I sold it for the trucker frameset
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    also it's fun to note... I had XT dual controls mounted when I first built the trucker... but the shape of the cover was a bit more square so it wasn't as comfortable when I would put my hands covering them... so I went back to the deore... still have the xt in case the deores die (that and they aren't worth selling)... suppose it helps the black also matches the bike build more then the silver XT lol

    also I've seince wrapped the flat section and the nook of the bar up to the start of the ergon grips with some old cork road bar wrap... I'll go with new wrap here at some point but I had the stuff from when I took it off a road bike and wanted to see if it helped... while not much it is a nice bit of extra cushion
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    You guys like the jones on the lht? I got one on my pugs and love it. Been thinking of changing my drops for a while. Drops on my lht that is... Kinda pricey experiment. Got an 08 with cantis.... Any recs on some levers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50 mission cap View Post
    You guys like the jones on the lht? I got one on my pugs and love it. Been thinking of changing my drops for a while. Drops on my lht that is... Kinda pricey experiment. Got an 08 with cantis.... Any recs on some levers?
    they feel like a great bar for a touring type bike... lots of backwards (upright seating) and forward (more aero) hand positions... I've been riding my drop bar road bike more lately... I don't see me moving to drops on the trucker any time soon (I dig the titec bars and the cost of other shifting options AND levers AND mechanical discs all add up lol)

    for levers... any non-V will work... but if you are using an old jones or the titec version you need to figure out your shifting options as they are either quirky or akward... I've gone with the shimano dual control stuff that didn't last long... they are about perfect for the titec H bars and the sort of riding i've done so far.
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    Thinking of getting some Paul thumbies for my shimano shifters.

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    donalson or anyone else - how is the ride on the disc/LHT without a load? I was thinking of getting one for my better half, but wasn't sure on the ride quality. Too harsh?

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    I like it myself... but i'm also a 300# load by myself... so not exactly a good person to be asking these things... it's a slow handling bike... easy to ride for miles with no hands...

    also make no mistake about it... it's a heavy bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by stremf View Post
    donalson or anyone else - how is the ride on the disc/LHT without a load? I was thinking of getting one for my better half, but wasn't sure on the ride quality. Too harsh?
    I'm 175lbs out of the shower and I find the unloaded LHT is not harsh, but it's not a fast or fun bike to ride unloaded. Unless your goal is to cruise real slow and enjoy the sunshine I'd pick a different bike to ride unloaded.

    I wouldn't put my 120lbs GF on one unless she was planning a lot of fully loaded touring.
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    Thanks for the responses. Primary use will be casual family rides and occasional grocery runs. I really like the more upright riding position compared to a cross check. The geometry appeals to me as well, since she does not race. I like the longer wheelbase for the stability with or without a load. And really "cruise slow and enjoy the sunshine" describes her riding, so maybe this will work out.

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    Hi! Does anybody know is there any difference between 2013 and 2014 frameset of Disc Trucker (except the color)? They are both available online at the same price. Do they have absolutely identical geometry, same cogs and mounts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolyanich View Post
    Hi! Does anybody know is there any difference between 2013 and 2014 frameset of Disc Trucker (except the color)? They are both available online at the same price. Do they have absolutely identical geometry, same cogs and mounts?
    just google the 2013 Surly catelog and compare. I really doubt there's much difference. Its probably best to just pick the color you like best and go with it.
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    Long Haul Truckers...

    Here's my Trucker that's under a constant state of construction and improvement. 1x9 drivetrain, BB7 brakes with Shimano rotors (key to Avid squeal elimination!) I just threw on the Bontrager 2.0 tires (took off the 1.25 and I'm glad I did, they were hell to get off!)....I like the ride of the bigger tires and have some Conti's picked out but wanted to experiment first. A Brooks will be added, Ortliebs hung on the rack and Ergons added in the future. I really have been enjoying this bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4SEVEN3 View Post
    Here's my Trucker that's under a constant state of construction and improvement. 1x9 drivetrain, BB7 brakes with Shimano rotors (key to Avid squeal elimination!) I just threw on the Bontrager 2.0 tires (took off the 1.25 and I'm glad I did, they were hell to get off!)....I like the ride of the bigger tires and have some Conti's picked out but wanted to experiment first. A Brooks will be added, Ortliebs hung on the rack and Ergons added in the future. I really have been enjoying this bike!
    smart looking bike... what size frame?
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    smart looking bike... what size frame?
    Thanks! It's a 52cm with a uncut steerer tube. I may do a second stem to mount light(s) on to get rid of some spacers.
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    I'm starting to see a trend of Long Haul Truckers with MTB bars I'm looking to add dual controls for more drivetrain adjustability on the go. But I still like the simple look and function of downtube shifters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zuk88 View Post
    I'm starting to see a trend of Long Haul Truckers with MTB bars I'm looking to add dual controls for more drivetrain adjustability on the go. But I still like the simple look and function of downtube shifters.
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    and I still blame you for mine ... a trucker was WAY out in the back of my mind before I saw yours...

    the H bars and dual controls are a perfect match for road/gravel grinding type riding, controls at your fingertips at all but the most forward position... then again you're on a micro sized frame so it's not like reaching for DT shifters is a 3 foot reach like it is on my 62cm ;-)
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    I agree Truckers look good with MTB bars. I'm looking to build up a Disc Trucker for the wife with something like Albatross bars.

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    The 'Green' LHT.
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    Ready for snow and winter.
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    That double stem officially trumps the double rainbows. Nice.

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    I commented on your Flickr, but I'll give love here too Saddle Up.

    I'm usually unimpressed by most LHT (no offense guys, just personal preference!), but yours is a goddamn beast. It looks disguised as a vintage MTB in ultimate commuter mode, which is rad.

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    Damn Saddle Up!

    Dude, I love my LHT (see below) but continue to covet yours. I'd love to build up a 26" 60cm Disc Trucker with an Open Bar for commuting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    Ready for snow and winter.
    650b config? What fenders are you running? I agree with others, that LHT is precious, keeps me on the fence about my decision on the Troll I have yet to order because of the whole 2013 - 2014 change over. Blast!
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