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    what amount of on/off road do you plan to do on it?

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    LHT or KM?

    I'm selling my alloy 26" HT & thinking of replacing it with either a Long Haul Trucker or Karate Monkey. There is no "need" for either, just an itch to buy something. I had a KM before which i terribly miss & i'm very interested in an LHT. Can't decide...any advice? Suggestions?

    FWIW, i have a 26" carbon HT & a Salsa Fargo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    what amount of on/off road do you plan to do on it?
    hmmm...can't say. I don't have a dedicated road bike or mtb. I ride what i feel like riding for a certain day. I have rides wherein i do 10% road with 90% trails & vice versa.

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    You could buy the LHT frame in 26" set and move the parts over from your hard tail. That'd make a nice rugged commuter/tourer/gravel grinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimhazy View Post
    You could buy the LHT frame in 26" set and move the parts over from your hard tail. That'd make a nice rugged commuter/tourer/gravel grinder.
    Thanks slim! That's one of my options. Still trying to figure out which option will cost me less money. I'm being offered a good deal on a built LHT by my LBS so that sits high on my list. My HT has pretty good parts but i might end up spending a little more for buying a new cockpit, shifters, canti brakes, etc. No disc trucker frames available here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    what amount of on/off road do you plan to do on it?
    The LHT has a low BB so if by off road you mean gravel/dirt roads that's no issue, but if you mean off roads completely you'll experience pedal strike on rocks and such.

    For the later type of riding a higher BB style Surly makes a better choice.
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    Vik,

    Just checked out your webpage. Really cool.

    Hank

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    Hey vikb! I get what you're saying. What's making it difficult is my Fargo. It's like a combination of the LHT & KM.

    Nice page, by the way.

    One more question, If i go for the LHT, what size should i get? I think i would fit a 50 & 52. I'm 5'7 with a 30" inseam, barefoot. My Fargo is a medium. You have a couple of LHTs so im sure you know how they fit, feel & handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nordstern1 View Post
    One more question, If i go for the LHT, what size should i get? I think i would fit a 50 & 52. I'm 5'7 with a 30" inseam, barefoot. My Fargo is a medium. You have a couple of LHTs so im sure you know how they fit, feel & handle.
    I'd size a LHT based on the effective TT. If your medium Fargo fits you well it has an effective TT of 56.5cm and a 56cm LHT has an effective TT of 57cm which is pretty close. The 54cm LHT has an effective TT of 55.5cm which is 1cm shorter than your Fargo.

    A 50cm LHT has an effective TT of 53cm which is quite a bit shorter than your Fargo and that size LHT complete has a 7.5cm stem vs. the 10cm stem on the 56cm LHT/medium Fargo which means overall the reach on the 50cm LHT is way shorter than a medium Fargo complete.

    I'm going by the specs on the current Salsa Fargo page...I'm not a Fargo expert so if they've changed the geometry between now and when you bought yours you are safer to measure the TT yourself.

    If you have a local Surly dealer chat with them and get their opinion as they size a lot of people on LHTs and they can see you to evaluate the situation better.
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    Yeah, that's how i usually do it, basing size on ETTs, with my mtbs but the LHT is a totally different animal so i'm kinda confused. I would definitely have problems with standover on the 56cm frame. The max frame size i could ride is probably a 54cm. I have adequate clearance with the 50cm that i straddled but i couldn't do a proper fitting because of the super short stem it has on. I'm thinking i could go with a 50cm frame then put on a 100mm stem. Clearance is not too important to me as long as i can still standover the bike. Putting on bigger tires would eliminate the standover clearance on the 50cm.

    The Fargo info you saw is for the current models which i have.

    I will go back to the LBS & do some more fitting & measurements.

    Thanks Vik!

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    If you can't get the SO you want from a LHT frame with the Eff TT you need then it's not the right frame for you and I'd look elsewhere. Not every frame suits everybody.
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