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    @LyNx Ive got a Specialized 2 Bliss 2.0 on the back and a 2.35 exiwolf up front. When I measured the standover with the tape bisecting the axle of the BB, the tape reads 31.75. When I measure closer to the middle of the top tube, my number is much closer to the figures from Surly.

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    Thanks man, that's really great, that's a 1/2" lower than when I have on my 38mm city slickers Won't help me really though, as besides that and the annoying brake tabs my Monkey is working just fine Me getting a sweet AM alu hardtail since hasn't improved the need to want a new one either - although the ride of the steel is definitely smoover.

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    @LyNx Ive got a Specialized 2 Bliss 2.0 on the back and a 2.35 exiwolf up front. When I measured the standover with the tape bisecting the axle of the BB, the tape reads 31.75. When I measure closer to the middle of the top tube, my number is much closer to the figures from Surly.
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    Just ordered my Monkey. Hopefully will have it by the weekend! Stoked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by telethor
    Just ordered my Monkey. Hopefully will have it by the weekend! Stoked!
    Battleship or Black?

    I was curious if anyone has taken delivery of the new 2011 Karate Monkey frame/fork in the black color yet. Plenty of gray bikes have been shown, but I don't recall seeing it in black yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    Battleship or Black?

    I was curious if anyone has taken delivery of the new 2011 Karate Monkey frame/fork in the black color yet. Plenty of gray bikes have been shown, but I don't recall seeing it in black yet.

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    I went with black. I don't think the gray looks bad at all, but I think the black looks nicer IMO. I'll post it up when it arrives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by telethor
    I went with black. I don't think the gray looks bad at all, but I think the black looks nicer IMO. I'll post it up when it arrives.
    Sweet. I think yours will be the first new frame in black posted. I look forward to seeing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by telethor
    I went with black. I don't think the gray looks bad at all, but I think the black looks nicer IMO. I'll post it up when it arrives.
    Agree, black is a better color than the new grey. imo

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    I went black too
    Just pick up mine last night and Im excited to build it up tonight
    I think I need to file a "not feeling well" syndrome this afternoon so I can go home and have the building process started,
    Will post my picture later tonight
    Cheers
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    There is a pic of the new black frame, 7 posts down from Bruce Brown's, on page 8 of the "Post pics of your FULLY RIGID SS 29er" thread in the 29er forum. It's wearing drop bars, sitting across some RR tracks. Looks like a small frame. Here's the link. Post pics of your FULLY RIGID SS 29er

    And here's a pic of my Battleship Gray KM, for all you gray bashers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fleadirt
    There is a pic of the new black frame, 7 posts down from Bruce Brown's, on page 8 of the "Post pics of your FULLY RIGID SS 29er" thread in the 29er forum. It's wearing drop bars, sitting across some RR tracks. Looks like a small frame. Here's the link. Post pics of your FULLY RIGID SS 29er

    And here's a pic of my Battleship Gray KM, for all you gray bashers!

    Hey, I like grey but just prefer black.

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    I hear you man! I really had a tough time deciding between the two colors
    when ordering mine. My last bike was black, so I decided it was time for
    a change of color.

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    Here's my black Monkey. I just picked it up after work tonight. I got the complete since I didn't have many swappable parts. I'd still like to keep my Heckler for more techy days... we'll see I figure I'll upgrade here and there over time.

    No trail time yet, but on the road, yard grass, and sidewalks it seems to be what I want. Hopefully it doesn't snow tonight in NC (horrible, being in UT for the last 5 years, I lived on snow!) and I can get a ride in tomorrow.

    FWIW, Cycletherapy in Lewisville, NC (just outside of Winston-Salem) is the best bike shop I've dealt with. I ordered the bike on Tuesday at 4:55 PM. It was in the shop and built by 5:15 PM Friday. Thanks Mike!

    This is just in the living room. Not the best light. Better pictures to come.

    How clean does that look?


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    I like the way Surly kept their black frames. This color option has been a very faithful "Surly color", I must say .

    The new 2011 builds all look pretty sick. Can anyone comment on the differences in ride quality between the 2011 and the older style frames? I am not so keen on the Taiwan generic parts on the stock build though, always preferred a custom spec-ed built .

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    Quote Originally Posted by telethor
    Here's my black Monkey. I just picked it up after work tonight. I got the complete since I didn't have many swappable parts. I'd still like to keep my Heckler for more techy days... we'll see I figure I'll upgrade here and there over time.

    No trail time yet, but on the road, yard grass, and sidewalks it seems to be what I want. Hopefully it doesn't snow tonight in NC (horrible, being in UT for the last 5 years, I lived on snow!) and I can get a ride in tomorrow.

    FWIW, Cycletherapy in Lewisville, NC (just outside of Winston-Salem) is the best bike shop I've dealt with. I ordered the bike on Tuesday at 4:55 PM. It was in the shop and built by 5:15 PM Friday. Thanks Mike!

    This is just in the living room. Not the best light. Better pictures to come.

    How clean does that look?

    That is very nice looking. Black is beautiful. What size did you get? Looking forward to your ride report.

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    Smile hydrate or die?

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLightGo
    Now with 30mm less spacers and a beautimous working Ragley Carnegie's bar. Awesome for rigid SS'ing.

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    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/q2qwGjUPL4D6Fk2wQrUXGQ?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_2W6rELw9q40/THw1ch-o6EI/AAAAAAAAD-0/rQpzPhkWjjM/s800/IMG_6632.JPG" /></a>

    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/kUO2fa9mWKJJ8KF6Wpn2Ag?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_2W6rELw9q40/TJlBWCkgbYI/AAAAAAAAEB4/QpHfYW8TDvs/s800/IMG_6737.JPG" /></a>

    I like that I could drop 30+mm of spacers and still get the bars just a tick below saddle height (my preferred location).

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    I call dibs on that bike when you want to sell, but dude, drink much?

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    The KM did not disappoint. It was a little weird at first having no full suspension sag, but I got used to it quickly. I was surprised at how fast I rode as I was originally expecting to slow down a lot. Love the 29 inches. Rolls over almost everything and maintains momentum. I found one thing to work on - my climbing position out of the saddle. On one short but steepish climb I was way too forward out of the saddle. Didn't unweight the front at a big root and "disembarked". Saw stars and may or may not have broken my hand. I'm hoping it's nothing major. Loooove the bike though. Granted it's a new bike, but I was so much more tuned into the ride and working with the trail instead of letting the suspension do it. I sense this bike getting a lot of attention.

    Some stoke:





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    Editted to add: It's 20" frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jvossman
    I call dibs on that bike when you want to sell, but dude, drink much?
    JV, as a fellow South Floridian, I thought you would recognize my hurricane preparedness stocks 24 gallons.....just in case

    I did mov them a while back though.......

    No dice on the sale! I love this bike!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fleadirt
    There is a pic of the new black frame, 7 posts down from Bruce Brown's, on page 8 of the "Post pics of your FULLY RIGID SS 29er" thread in the 29er forum. It's wearing drop bars, sitting across some RR tracks. Looks like a small frame. Here's the link. Post pics of your FULLY RIGID SS 29er
    Dang, I missed that one. I guess I saw the drop bars and skimmed right on by it.

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    sorry can't find it. Only one I see is a Kona Unit on some snowwy tracks.

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    jvossman, look @ Post #369.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGenTwo
    I like the way Surly kept their black frames. This color option has been a very faithful "Surly color", I must say .

    The new 2011 builds all look pretty sick. Can anyone comment on the differences in ride quality between the 2011 and the older style frames? I am not so keen on the Taiwan generic parts on the stock build though, always preferred a custom spec-ed built .
    There is no noticeable change in ride quality between years. As far as I know, same steel, same builders, same basic geometry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fleadirt
    jvossman, look @ Post #369.
    i'm stupid, but don't see where do you see the post #?

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    Here it is. The post #'s are located on the far right, opposite from time/date the post was made.
    Not viewable if you have your page magnified.



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    my first 29'er

    My tonight posting of pictures is very long...so here it is just after I build it.
    Once it goes out to the parking lot, then to the trail, the picture taking was totally forgotten

    The first time I roll my leg over the top tube, it reminds me when I was a kid trying to mount my father's bike.

    At first it feels tall but after tweaking with steer tube spacers the other things, I easily tend to blend with the bike.

    didn't even need more than 5mins to get use to it. it just feels right.

    Handling is excellent, steering is quick but not scary on steep stuff probably because 29'er rolls easily on technical stuffs,

    Now here's the funny thing, when I try to ride my favorite and beloved Turner 5 Spot (26'er of course) it feels strange, the steering on a slack side of 68 feels weird, the wheels looks like a bmx wheels now

    Now this might give me new problem in the future

    action shots would be better, but this simple one for now, cheers
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    Still love my RFX even with the Monkey sitting nex to it. You could always build a Sultan!

    happy trails...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullit_cn
    Now here's the funny thing, when I try to ride my favorite and beloved Turner 5 Spot (26'er of course) it feels strange, the steering on a slack side of 68 feels weird, the wheels looks like a bmx wheels now

    Welcome to the big wheels and what it does to the rest of the bikes you own.

    Now this might give me new problem in the future

    See below....

    action shots would be better, but this simple one for now, cheers
    Now that's a nice shot of one of the new black beauties!!! Sweet build and enjoy it. Let us know when that Turner 5 Spot gets sold and you get a full suspension 29"er to add to your Monkey. It's the logical next step, trust me.

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    Thanks Men,
    I've been dreaming of the new 5 Spot to replace my old one for my next project but that changes now

    Really a headache to choose between the two, or the Three once the RFX comes out in 2012
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    Here's my KM at the Barton Creek Greenbelt several weeks ago. I bought it as a complete with the intention of it being my urban ride, and its sort of became my only bike instead. I added gears (3x6) and some beefier wheels with bigger rotors. Also switched out most of the cockpit to what you see here. I'm really happy with it. It truly is a great, versatile bike.


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    We had a sanctioned run/mtb duathalon after a whole lot of rain. Trail took a bit of a beating but will be ok with some work. The KM ate the mud for breakfast.

    Muddy monkey.

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    Finally the 20" KM grey has arrived

    Took her out for a spin today (minutes after i picked her up).

    Apart for the grips (diameter is too small, probably will order a set of Ergon Bio Cork grips) this bike handles really well. I LOVE it!

    The saddle (Brooks Ti Swift) is amazing, no complaints even after two hours of riding. It feels like the rails is flexing a bit, just the right way. The FuBar is a really nice surprise. The brakes are amazing (BB7). Love the handling, the big wheels, the simplicity of SS ... oh well ... I had a ton of fun today.

    Cheers. Good thing i have nothing planned tomorrow ...
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    digging the cork and brooks Socrates

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    My 2008 Karate Monkey.

    After participating in two overseas mountain bike races, I can say that I've got the build dialed in already.

    Specs:
    Karate Monkey frame and fork
    Chris King black headset
    Salsa Pro Moto 17 deg, 710mm long
    Thomson Elite 100mm stem
    Thomson Elite seatpost
    Thomson Elite seatclamp
    Middleburn RS7 w/ SKF Stainless Steel BB
    2011 XTR Race pedals
    KMC X9 chain
    Fizik Gobi Xm
    Ergon GE1 White
    Magura Louise Carbon brakeset w/ Hope floating rotors
    Front Wheel: a2z hub w/ DT revolution laced to Salsa Semi rims. Stan's sealant with Racing Ralph 2.4
    Rear Wheel: Hadley 72-pt hub w/Dt revolution laced to Salsa Semi rims. Racing Ralph 2.4





    Gearing: 32:20

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    Just built her up. Maiden ride tom. Some crappy phone pics.









    Surly Karate monkey frame
    American classic wheels
    Surly steel fork
    Specialized fast trak tires
    Thomson stem
    Avid bb7 brakes
    Surly open bars
    FSA seat post
    Velo saddle
    Truvative 32t crank
    Exustar pedals
    Ritchey grips
    Cane Creek headset
    Surly 18t cog

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    Here's my setup after doing some warranty-voiding frame modifications (detailed here: Friday Show and Tell - 04/08/11 ):

    - 200X Surly Karate Monkey 20"
    - Fox F29 Fork with spacer removed to make it 100mm travel (G2 geometry, taken off a GF Rig)
    - Cane Creek 100 Headset
    - Ibis stock stem
    - On-One Mary Bars
    - Ergon GX-1 Team Issue Grips
    - Avid BB7s with crappy 160 Roundagon rotors and awesome Speed Dial levers
    - Bontrager Rhythm Comp Rear wheel with Schwalbe Rocket Ron 2.25
    - Bontrager Rhythm front wheel (not even a Comp, from before they went to sealed cartridge bearings = suck) with Schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.25
    - WTB seat of some kind
    - Pure Race KS i851 dropper post (best $50 I've ever spent)
    - 190mm Profile BMX cranks
    - Animal 28T chainwheel / 18T and 22T rear cogs on cassette
    - shaved off everything unnecessary to make this a permanent-SS bike with internal cable routing







    A little muddy, better shot of the cable routing for the dropper post:


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    Mine's arriving soon (hopefully) great ideas, loving the drop bar approach and the cable routing as above

    Just hope I don't go back to the drawing board before it arrives for my wallets sake!

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    The Chimp

    she's a big'n
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Goldenberg
    she's a big'n
    Nice! Is that the 22" sized Monkey?

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    Post-race muddy monkey.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aTomOfAllTrades

    True NC native:
    Oh my God Cheerwine is the best!

    We stock up whenever we go to NC, but now we have a local mom and pop grocer that gets Cheerwine here in North Florida. Awesome stuff.

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    Can someone post a photo of a 2011 with the bars turned around and the cranks horizontal, thank you in advance.

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    Carnegie bars?

    Green light Go, are those the flat Carnegie bars, and just for interest why upside down? Thinking of getting one so would be interested in your feedback
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by renovator
    Green light Go, are those the flat Carnegie bars, and just for interest why upside down? Thinking of getting one so would be interested in your feedback
    Thanks
    I'm pretty sure you're asking me, but no they're actually typical On-One Mary bars run with the rise, right-side up. Personal flavor of course, but I love them for suspended riding...when I put the rigid fork on there my hands end up getting rattled so much they slide inward on the grips and tear my hands up, so I'm going to put flat bars on for rigid riding from now on. The sweep is really comfy otherwise.
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    Karate Monkey in the Hudson Valley, Spring 2011
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    I really want to replace my crosscheck frame set with a KM frame set. I want to ride harder than the Xcheck frame should be ridden, and the KM can do everything the Xcheck can plus some. Thats the way it seems anyway. It will ride trails better, and potentially tour better should I decide to do that? My Xcheck is very new, so i figure I wouldn't lose too much in the swap. Am I crazy to do this? I don't think so, but you all ought to know better. What say you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaultbrad
    I really want to replace my crosscheck frame set with a KM frame set. I want to ride harder than the Xcheck frame should be ridden, and the KM can do everything the Xcheck can plus some. Thats the way it seems anyway. It will ride trails better, and potentially tour better should I decide to do that? My Xcheck is very new, so i figure I wouldn't lose too much in the swap. Am I crazy to do this? I don't think so, but you all ought to know better. What say you?
    I actually bought my KM with the intention of gearing it and turning it into a road bike. That was a mistake, It was way too much fun off road and I ended up buying a CC too.

    The CC has a better set of braze-ons than the KM, and the KM can't take a rack when you're running discs. I think the CC would be better suited to touring on the road/dirt roads because of this. Also keep in mind the KM is designed around fat knobbies. Shortly after I bought mine, I tried a taller gear and a set of 700x25 slicks. It felt awkwardly low to the ground and I kept striking the pedals in corners.

    There is some overlap, but the KM is a mountain bike. Have you looked at the Troll (more braze-ons for touring, but little wheels) or one of the Salsa bikes like the Fargo?

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    Thanks for the opinions! Considered those. Would do exclusively fun rides, SS, dirt, with the slight chance of future short tours(unlikely any time soon). Could get old man mtn racks to go with the discs when I get some. I have wheelset, v brakes, cranks, etc, etc, etc. Everything I'd need to just swap over, minus a wider BB. I'm a tallish dude and want to try some 29" dirt action. I like the idea of fat knobbies and I like the track ends on the frame. I also like that I'd be able to get the bars higher. Maybe I'll see what I could get rid of my CC frame set for.

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    I want one of these dang things soooooo bad. And all these pictures aren't helping.

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    data by jon_jones799, on Flickr


    data by jon_jones799, on Flickr

    Simplicity at its finest!

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    Unknown year
    Large frame
    Gravity stem
    Thomson seatpost
    180mm XT crankset
    Mallet2 pedals
    Charge Spoon saddle
    Syntace Vector carbon handlebar
    Avid BB7's
    HBC chainring, Surly cog
    XT hubs with Mavic TN719 wheels
    Ardent 2.4's front and rear for full suspension bombing
    Double tuggnuts on the rear
    and the FUN factor turned up to 11!

    I hope this helps Flynnster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumbee1

    data by jon_jones799, on Flickr


    data by jon_jones799, on Flickr

    Simplicity at its finest!

    IMG_1778 by jon_jones799, on Flickr

    Unknown year
    Large frame
    Gravity stem
    Thomson seatpost
    180mm XT crankset
    Mallet2 pedals
    Charge Spoon saddle
    Syntace Vector carbon handlebar
    Avid BB7's
    HBC chainring, Surly cog
    XT hubs with Mavic TN719 wheels
    Ardent 2.4's front and rear for full suspension bombing
    Double tuggnuts on the rear
    and the FUN factor turned up to 11!

    I hope this helps Flynnster
    Nice build.
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