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    Now with 30mm less spacers and a beautimous working Ragley Carnegie's bar. Awesome for rigid SS'ing.

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    I like that I could drop 30+mm of spacers and still get the bars just a tick below saddle height (my preferred location).

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    @GreenLightGo

    Nice! Ive been thinking of getting the Carnegies since they seem to provide an excellent compromise between the more conventional bars and the extreme sweep bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGenTwo
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    Nice! Ive been thinking of getting the Carnegies since they seem to provide an excellent compromise between the more conventional bars and the extreme sweep bars.
    I've had them in the fleet for a while - they were on my wife's bike just staring me in the face. I like the 'alt' bar, have run the Titec H-bar or J-bar for the past 3 years on my singlespeed bikes.

    The Carnegie's bar has a great feel to it and carving a corner with this set of handlebars is fantastic - not sure how they accomplished that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLightGo
    I've had them in the fleet for a while - they were on my wife's bike just staring me in the face. I like the 'alt' bar, have run the Titec H-bar or J-bar for the past 3 years on my singlespeed bikes.

    The Carnegie's bar has a great feel to it and carving a corner with this set of handlebars is fantastic - not sure how they accomplished that.

    My KM is currently equipped with a Salsa 17degree sweep Pro Moto flat bar . This is the sweepiest bar I have ever used , Glad I picked this up for my first 29er . .

    They are not equipped with designs that negate a longer stem, so I am also running them with 100mm Thomson Elite X4s now .

    I will post pictures of my karate monkey soon

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    My 18" KM's conversion to 1x9 finished, used a Surly SS Chainring 33t and MRP 1.x chain guide, cost was about $75, and couldnt be any happier atm. Now with that Front Derailer gone another water bottle cage incoming. Might remove the monkeynuts and experiment with losing 10mm+ of chainstay.


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    Quote Originally Posted by riiz
    My 18" KM's conversion to 1x9 finished, used a Surly SS Chainring 33t and MRP 1.x chain guide, cost was about $75, and couldnt be any happier atm. Now with that Front Derailer gone another water bottle cage incoming. Might remove the monkeynuts and experiment with losing 10mm+ of chainstay.

    Nice setup! You'll get the best mud clearance on that 2.4 Ardent by keeping the monkey nuts.
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    Those are actually the 2.25 Ardents, but I might play around with a 2.4 on the front in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riiz
    Those are actually the 2.25 Ardents, but I might play around with a 2.4 on the front in the near future.
    My Monkey

    2.4 Ardent in the front, 2.1 WTB motoraptor in the rear.

    Other specs:
    Syntace Vector Carbon 12* 685mm bar
    Gravity Light Stem
    Charge Spoon
    ODI Rogue Grips
    WTB wheels with Shimano hubs
    Thomson seatpost
    Shimano cranks

    I will be posting a thorough build as the bike transforms into a budget blinglespeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefty W.
    Here's my new ride.
    what tires are those? size?

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    RebaMonkey

    *Finally* got a working Reba SL fork after going through four of them in about two weeks. It all worked out rather well as I also got the full Push rebuild for free (paid for by the LBS where I bought the fork).

    Also picked up some Velocity Blunts / XT wheels off fleabay (actually through same LBS) for cheap. Waiting on some Bontrager rims strips / valves to try a tubeless conversion.

    I've gotten in two good rides with this setup, it feels *great*.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    Thanks guys. Looks like I will order a Tuggnut today (and a proper chain).

    My experiment at the moment is just using my regular QR hub/wheel converted with one of the Gusset SS conversion kits to get an idea and some trail time with a SS. The kit came with a 16 and an 18T cog. I put the 16T on with a 29T chainring to get me close to the gear inch de facto starting standard of 52.

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    Been messing around on it for a month now. I finally pulled out the camera to take a few shots today. Hard to believe I've had this frame since 2003 and here it is 8 years later for the first try at SS'ing it.

    25.08 pounds with the heavy Slime filled tubes, Thudbuster, Ardent 2.4's and boat anchor pedals. She's not going to win any beauty contests, but it's nice to have in the bike stable.

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    How do you like the thudbuster? I've been toying with the idea of adding one to my KM.

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    I'm running an LT thudbuster with the same Ardent 2.4 on the rear.

    I like it a lot. The KM rides harsher than most of the other 29ers I've owned. I think it's a combination of short chainstays and minimal seat post and my weight (<160).

    With the thud it's a non-issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holmes
    How do you like the thudbuster? I've been toying with the idea of adding one to my KM.
    Takes the edge off - at least the ST version. I've tried the LT version on my KM as well (nice and plush), but the saddle was already mounted to the ST, so I just used it for the build. SS, rigid, and a standard seatpost is a nice simple combo, but ouch!!! I'm too used to full suspension 29"ers to not have something provide some flex on the KM.

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    Thanks guys - I may just have to try a thudbuster on the KM at some point. Although I am seriously contemplating a FS rig for next season so it might be moot.

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    Bruce - that's a pure fun machine build there - nice job!
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    Out on Continental Divide Trail. September 2010.



    2003 model. On 3rd color. Great bike.

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    had for couple months and still really enjoying
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    Couple action shots from today on the monkey...



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    I swapped over most of the parts from my 05 Skid Mark KM. New Features for 2011 include a lower stand over height, revised rear drop out, and new cable routings. I'm really digging the full length cables and increased stand over.

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    Oh my.. That looks really nice. Not sure if it's the new paintwork, but that Surly KM is one of the nicest Ive ever seen .

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    That is EXACTLY what I want! Full length cables UNDER the top tube with three cable holddowns. The lower standover isn't bad either. I have been planning on customizing my KM by cutting off the brakes bosses and cable guides, adding cables holddowns under the top tube, and then having the frame prepped and powdercoated a "special" color.

    huevos, what is different about the drop outs? This is the first time I have heard anything about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumbee1
    huevos, what is different about the drop outs? This is the first time I have heard anything about them.
    The rear drop out was changed to allow for removal of the rear wheel without loosening the brake caliper bolts. With a standard 160mm rotor it should work flawlessly, with my 200mm rotor on the back, i found I needed to add some spacers on the rear caliper to get the rear wheel in and out...i may just go to a smaller rotor because Im a little worried the mounting bolts dont have enough bite with the spacers. Ill try to post some pics of the difference if I get a chance this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huevos

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    Very nice looking Battleship Gray!

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    Yooper KM

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    @Huevos Just ordered a Battleship grey KM yesterday. What size frame do you ride?

    Sweet color!

    Amazing, after 7 (!) years of thinking about the KM i finally jumped in :-) Will post some pictures when it arives (probably mid december)

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    Used Monkey frame
    Syntace Vector bar
    Avid BB7 brakes
    Charge Spoon saddle
    Shimano XT crankset (180mm)
    Crank Bros Mallet 2 pedals
    Shimano/WTB wheelset
    Maxxis Ardents 2.4 front and back

    I still need to replace the black Thomson seatpost with silver Thomson seatpost. Both the front and back wheels need to be rebuilt.

    Plans for the future:
    Modify frame - replace top tube cable stops with cable holddowns under the top tube, cut off brake bosses, powdercoat frame, fork, and stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socrates69
    @Huevos Just ordered a Battleship grey KM yesterday. What size frame do you ride?

    Sweet color!

    Amazing, after 7 (!) years of thinking about the KM i finally jumped in :-) Will post some pictures when it arives (probably mid december)
    mine is a 22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huevos
    mine is a 22.
    Very interesting. The standover on the new 22" visually appears to be the same as the older 20". My Monkey is a 20" and a line drawn from the top tube intersects the top of the tire at the same spot as your 22".

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    Campstove Karate Monkey

    Great versatile bike
    22" Frame
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    Here's my new one, she weighs in at 25 lbs on the nose. Not too shabby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumbee1
    Very interesting. The standover on the new 22" visually appears to be the same as the older 20". My Monkey is a 20" and a line drawn from the top tube intersects the top of the tire at the same spot as your 22".
    Hence my question. I thought for sure it was a 20" I really like the look of the new frame. It looks definitely more compact. Keep them new-frame pictures coming ;-) And ofcourse don't hold back any pictures of the older ones :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbdee
    Here's my new one, she weighs in at 25 lbs on the nose. Not too shabby.
    Very nice new monkey
    Is that a medium?
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    How does she ride?

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    That should be a medium, but it certainly looks like my 16" Monkey !



    Ill be grabbing one of these newly designed KM, maybe once the warranty on this one(08) is over .

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    Quote Originally Posted by socrates69
    Hence my question. I thought for sure it was a 20" I really like the look of the new frame. It looks definitely more compact. Keep them new-frame pictures coming ;-) And ofcourse don't hold back any pictures of the older ones :-)
    The stand over on the 22" 2011 KM is .2 inches higher than the stand over on the earlier 20" KMs.

    see: http://surlybikes.com/bikes/karate_monkey_complete/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullit_cn
    Very nice new monkey
    Is that a medium?
    Yep, it's an 18". I had a 2003 20" and the medium fits and feels way better.
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    Oh oh

    Wrong place to post. Sorry, please remove.
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    KM 2011 Build list

    Hi there,

    Thought i post my KM SS build list of the stuff i just ordered. Obviously i don't have any picures yet because, well ... i don't have the bike yet. I'm experimenting with Misfit Psycles parts (stem, post and bars) just because i like the company and the website. There, ehh ... different. Will post my findings of these parts later. While not a weight weenie (obviously) i'm aiming between 11-12 KG (24-26 lbs) fully build. Any experts who can confirm i'm on the right rack with this range?

    The Surly grey in combination with all the polished silver parts and the brown saddle/grips should make a nice combination.

    Now the waiting game begins. ETA half december. Pictures in due time...

    By the way, love this thread! Great KM's Great pictures. Hope i can post some soon.

    Right now the weather is just about perfect ... great trails just a mile from my house, no wind, clear skies, crisp temperature ... and i'm ... behind my computer. Not the place i want to be right now :-)

    Frame 2011 20" Surly Karate Monkey Grey
    Clamp Surly Silver
    Fork Surly 2011 Karate Monkey Grey
    Headset Chris King NoThreadset Silver
    Bracket Phil Wood
    Cranks Middleburn + Spider silver
    Pedals Shimano PDA 530 silver
    Chainring Middleburn 36t
    Chain KMC X1
    Brakes BB7 185mm/160mm
    Brake Levers Avid SL levers
    Wheels Chris King Singlespeed silver - DT Comp -Salsa Semi Silver + CK 19t
    Cog See wheels
    Tires WTB Weirwolf 2.55
    Tubes Schwalbe
    seatpost MisFit 350mm silver
    Saddle Brooks Swift brown
    Stem MisFit Fugly silver
    Handlebars Misfit Fubar silver
    Grips Cork
    Cables Nokon brake set silver
    Bidon cage 2x King Cage Ti

    Happy trails!

    PS Anybody knows some polished (!) silver brake levers? Can't find any.
    Last edited by socrates69; 11-22-2010 at 04:40 AM.

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    For a little fun and to do a comparison of sorts of steel vs Alu I threw my Manitou Minute 120 fork on the Monkey for a day and have to say it really made it super fun, but I know it wasn't designed around that height fork and I have an alu frame designed for it already, so only did it for the one day - looks great though. Really liked the taller BB, didn't have to worry so much about pedal strikes and amazingly the bike still handled really well with it. Can't say I like the hsorter front centre though, especially with the axle all the way forward and the 120 fork I could really feel the twitchiness, not too bad, but you had to constantly be paying attention.

    Build in pic....Pro2/Flow wheels, X7 RD, LX FD, X9 shifters, M760 cranks 34/46 rings, 110/6 stem, cheapie seatpost, flat bar 9 degree sweep, Juicy7s F/Mono Min R.
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    Quote Originally Posted by socrates69
    PS Anybody knows some polished (!) silver brake levers? Can't find any.
    Paul Love Levers come in silver....

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    My Monkey

    I bought this bike I don't know how long and it has seen several different iterations over the past several years. It lived most of it's life as a SS with knobbies but has seen time as a commuter with slicks, a 1x9, 3x9, dinglespeed.

    Now I'm experimenting with a 6 speed. 2 chainrings manually shifted, 3 cogs from an exploded 12-25 cassette and an old 105 double rear derailluer. I've got a pretty decent gear range 36-32 upfront and 21, 17, 15 in the rear. I could only fit 3 cogs on my Novatec hub's short cassette body. Nothing special but she's mine.

    Happy trails!
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    Build list?

    Quote Originally Posted by mtbdee
    Here's my new one, she weighs in at 25 lbs on the nose. Not too shabby.
    Nice! 25 lbs is what i'm aiming for.
    Can you please give us the build list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by socrates69
    Nice! 25 lbs is what i'm aiming for.
    Can you please give us the build list?
    Sure can!

    It now has a 1x9 setup with an X9 shifter, X7 rear derailleur, XT chain, Third Eye Chain watcher and a Deore 11-34 cassette) and weighs 26lb 10 oz

    The SS build is below:

    WTB speedisc lites laced to Speedisc rims 32h.

    Panaracer Rampage 2.3 front and rear with tubes (need to convert to tubeless)

    Salsa skewers

    BB7s with XTR levers and Odyssey Linear Slic Kable and housing (really nice stuff).

    Thomson Elite 27.2 x 390 (cut down from 410)

    WTB Devo saddle cro-mo rails

    SLX crankset with a Vuelta 32t aluminum chainring and a FSA clear poly bash.

    Surly 21t cog (lots of steep climbing at our local trails)

    XT pedals

    Ritchey Pro stem 90mm

    Easton Monkey Lite DH 710mm width

    King headset

    ODI lock on grips

    Sram PC 830 chain

    Niner You are What You Drink top cap

    That's about it. I'd have kept it a SS but I've been dealing with some very old running related knee issues and really need gears for a while. At least until I get them sorted, then it'll be back to SS.
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    Monkey Love

    I've been loving looking at all the monkeys while waiting on mine to show up from Fed Ex. This is my first 29er and I think the Karate Monkey will be an awesome introduction.

    So far it's still being built, (spent all day driving around to black friday stores only to be given limited time to build my new ride) I have dubbed this build the Judo Ape.

    Cell phone build picture.


    Hopefully I will finish it up tomorrow and get out on a ride to break it in.

    Build is focusing on a winter commuter/single track bike, built with parts I've had laying around waiting to see some dirt.

    Frame & Fork: Surly Karate Monkey
    Stem: Syntace F129
    Bar: FSA 180 Flat Now Race Face Evolve DH White
    Grips: ESI Silicone
    Shifters: Shimano XT M700 Friction Thumbies
    Brakes: Hope Mono Mini 7" front 6" rear
    Headset: Chris King
    Wheels: WTB SpeedDisc Formula Hubs SS rear
    Tires: Conti Mountain King 29x2.2
    Cassette: Shimano Ultegra 10spd 23..21..19..17 cogs Now 28.. 23.. 17.. cogs on SS hub
    Crank: Race Face Evolve X-Type 44-32
    Pedals: Crank Bros. Candy C
    Rear Derailleur: Shimano XTR M-951 Short Cage Rapid Rise Now XTR M-952 Long Cage
    Front Derailleur: Shimano XT M732 Top Mount Bottom Pull
    Seat post: Thomson Setback 26.8 + Coors can shim
    Seat: Fizik Arione Tri

    The gearing choice should give me 8 very usable ratios for both street and trail, but I may change it all up after my first ride, only one way to find out!



    Well I had my first short ride on the trail and I decided that I may need to rethink my gear choices for the trail (everything was rideable but wished for a bit lower of a gear for the longer climbs) and I need to work on the tire pressure (I know the mountain kings aren't known as great tires for the trail but they roll great on the pavement at 65psi {did 38 front and 32 rear on trail})



    Another crappy picture but at least its complete.


    Update: After spending plenty of time on the trail on the pavement and in the snow I have decided to change up the rear cogs for the rest of the winter until I get around to finding a 22T... So I have decided to take some exploded cassettes and run a 28.. 23.. 17.. in the rear and 44.. 32.. in the front. I have also found that running the 2.2 Mountain Kings between 20 and 30 psi really made a difference and took care of the teeth rattling.
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    Cruiser/Commuter Monkey

    Alfine 8 & Sugino DX MTB


    Chainline was a problem. I ended up with a 32t on this crankset to get 47.5mm. It looks like I have clearance to go to a 34t.


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    Nicely done Bernard! That looks like a great commuter. I was very close to going the alfine route on mine.

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    Hey Huevos, if you measure vertically above the BB what height do you get with your current setup on the 22" KM? Have to ask as I have the old model and when I measure it right now with Ardent 2.25" R/ WW LT F I get about the same meaurement they're stating for th new one - I get 33.75" with tape held infront of BB. According to what you're saying they've dropped it about an inch?
    Quote Originally Posted by huevos
    The stand over on the 22" 2011 KM is .2 inches higher than the stand over on the earlier 20" KMs.

    see: http://surlybikes.com/bikes/karate_monkey_complete/
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