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    Quote Originally Posted by dyakko View Post
    Single-and-ready-to-mingle VS It's-complicated
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    What rims do you have on the grey monkey with the skinwalls and are those 2.2" or 2.4"s?

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    KM Suburban

    Monster cross? More like suburban cross. This bike is just fine crossing fields or ascending the berms of the local landscape and has a fantastic grip on wet roads. I thought the Big apples would give a more supple ride but perhaps they need to be broken in a bit - still only about 50 miles on this bike. Running 40PSI for now.
    I am really impressed with the TRP Spyre brakes. I have had Tektro Lyra and Avid BB7 and these have the best feel and operation IMHO.
    The gearing is just right and I have no want for more in fact I could go a bit smaller in the front chainring but I will probably go to a less tall studded tire for winter commuting and that will change the effective gearing

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    Race Face Turbine 38t narrow/wide cranks
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    TRP road disc brakes
    Schwalbe 2.35 Big Apples or
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    Minty Fresh!

    My wife's KM 1x10

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    Pretty basic bike.

    1x10 Deore comps
    Deore disc brakes
    700x41 Knard tires (same as I have been using)

    This is my first build, as in I built it myself. It wasn't that bad, some of the frame prep was a PITA and I had some issues with the headset. I think the top of the head tube is a little out of round. I had a hell of a time getting the race to go in, and once it was, you could tell it wasn't perfectly round. It is what it is, not much of a fix for that and the bearing spins freely in there. I think it will be OK, but just an added headache of putting your own stuff together.
    Like a fart in a mitten...

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    The Mint Green looks awesome. Thanks for posting.

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    Sorry I can't take better photos

    The color has grown on me. Especially with the black. It reminds me more now of a grasshopper cookie, more in line with the name I suppose.

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    Latest costume for the Monkey...



    What a BLAST!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADDam View Post
    Latest costume for the Monkey...



    What a BLAST!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TxXDS View Post
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    shows if u click direct https://www.flickr.com/photos/adamgerweck/20290392731/
    (Moonlander, Krampus, 1x1, Pacer, X-Check,Big Block, Space Horse, Nature Boy Disc, Kona Unit, Bertin, Falcon, Awol) +.

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    No it doesn't......

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    Yes it does


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    Here's mine:
    SS setup
    ENO rear hub (powder coated white, so it's an actual white White hub)
    Surly front hub
    Built my own wheels around Stan's Flow rims
    Race Face crank with Blackspire 34T ring
    Rear White bros. freewheel cog 20T
    Front riser bar and DH stem for added pedal torquing stiffness
    Gravity dropper post - best accessory ever!!
    VP flats
    Whipperman chain. Basically indestructible. Might outlast the bike.
    RockShox Reba front fork with broken lockout. 100mm or so of travel.
    XTR Trail brakes for those loooooong downhill runs.
    Not super light, but rides like a dream - great geometry!
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    Pic of my XL Monkey and chubby rubber

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    18" Husker Blu Karate Monkey frameset (2008)
    Cane Creek S2 headset
    Deore crankset w/36t chainring
    Surly 18t SS cog
    Deore V-brakes
    Race Face Respond handlebar
    Oury lock-on grips
    Velocity Dyad rims
    High flange touring hubs (wheels built by Rich Lesnik of Rivendell Bicycle Works)
    40mm Schwalbe Dureme tires (I plan to replace them with Maxxis 2.1" Torches)
    Generic seatpost, saddle, stem and pedals.



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    Nice. If anyone knows of an early 16" frame for sale in the UK, please point me in the right direction. I can't find one for love nor money......

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    Quote Originally Posted by flashes View Post
    Nice. If anyone knows of an early 16" frame for sale in the UK, please point me in the right direction. I can't find one for love nor money......
    I got mine from the "Salsa and Surly Traders Group" on Facebook. I don't know how widespread Facebook is in the UK but it's worth watching.

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    2008 in husker blu. Alfine8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manida View Post


    2008 in husker blu. Alfine8.
    Nice! I'm really interested in an IGH someday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corwin1968 View Post
    Nice! I'm really interested in an IGH someday.

    i like my IGH (Alfine), really want a Rohloff though. Updated pic of mine after some stickers (found link from earlier in this thread).


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    Let's see your KM builds






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    Quote Originally Posted by smeagol View Post
    i like my IGH (Alfine), really want a Rohloff though. Updated pic of mine after some stickers (found link from earlier in this thread).

    Yeah, Rohloff is definately what I want but right now both the cost and my need don't justify one. Someday, though.

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    lol,i just realized i have everything i need to build up a karate monkey with an alfine8 except a headset and crankset/bottom bracket and brakes...one of the mint green frames would be nice...

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    Quote Originally Posted by l'oiseau View Post
    Sorry I can't take better photos

    The color has grown on me. Especially with the black. It reminds me more now of a grasshopper cookie, more in line with the name I suppose.

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    So it's more aqua or minty, as opposed to greenish? All the pics on line look awesome, but then I came across this one: http://topangacreekbicycles.com/blog...-1024x1024.jpg

    And that might be too green for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyriverag View Post
    So it's more aqua or minty, as opposed to greenish? All the pics on line look awesome, but then I came across this one: http://topangacreekbicycles.com/blog...-1024x1024.jpg

    And that might be too green for me.
    Yeah... that picture isn't very representative I'd say... lighting is weird. It's a softer green, more like my pictures... in most light at least.

    I'd say the first two pictures I posted are closest. One is kind of how it looks in low light, the other in sunlight. The bottom two look a little over-exposed, but up real close, it does look more whiteish... a trick of the eye I suppose.
    Like a fart in a mitten...

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    Cool, thank you for the color commentary (lol!). I'd prefer it to look like your pics, or this one: http://surlybikes.com//uploads/blog/Wood_12.png
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    Picked up my Karate Monkey on Friday and I love it. Really fun bike.
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    my monkey after winning my first race where i not only won my age group(50+) but beat all the youngsters as well! i hope it didnt sting too much to get beaten by an old guy on a steel single speed glommed up with hello kitty stuff...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyriverag View Post
    Picked up my Karate Monkey on Friday and I love it. Really fun bike.
    Was the color what you were hoping for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by l'oiseau View Post
    Was the color what you were hoping for?
    Yeah, the pictures really don't do it justice at all. I tried to upload one here, but it wouldn't go.
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    My first KM that got me hooked on SS


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    Quote Originally Posted by tyriverag View Post
    Picked up my Karate Monkey on Friday and I love it. Really fun bike.
    I saw it in person...it is pretty sweet

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    one from the weekend, light and fast

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    Today I will do what others won't, so tomorrow I can do what others can't

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    My KM Build

    Didn't realize there was a club. This is my favorite bike.

    Touring mode:




    Mountain Biking Mode (no rack or aerobars):



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    I went with Sram X-9 and Sun Ringle/XT wheels, 36 spoke for loaded touring. Had a blast bikepacking with it up in NH. Can't wait to try bikepacking with a bit less weight (my girlfriend came too, and she hasn't got room in the frame for a framepack).

    It's just such a fun bike. Whippy and fun, like a big BMX bike. I'm building up new wheels this season to cut a bunch of weight, and I think I will probably go with wider rims so I can play around with a 3-inch tire in the front.

    I know the rack looks high, but it was rock-solid under load. I sat in the aerobars for some harrowing descents up by Mt. Grace and Keane, and felt completely safe even without a brake nearby.

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    This is mine

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    This is my KM

    Road version
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    KM fat tire roadbike

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    Nice bike, very similar to how I run mine, two modes, both with drop bars. I love the fat tire road bike. Recently I bypassed a group of slow movers by dropping off the path and ridding along a grassy, sloped ridge. My 60mm Big Apple tires held fast without digging in! I also love how they smooth out the ride on rough surfaces (which in reality is roads/paths).

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    Quote Originally Posted by irvin_steinert View Post
    @ciux
    Nice bike, very similar to how I run mine, two modes, both with drop bars. I love the fat tire road bike. Recently I bypassed a group of slow movers by dropping off the path and ridding along a grassy, sloped ridge. My 60mm Big Apple tires held fast without digging in! I also love how they smooth out the ride on rough surfaces (which in reality is roads/paths).
    In my road version there aren't mounted big apple but marathon supreme 2.0.
    Next tires will are the big apple too.

    What about your rims inner weight.
    Mine are 19mm, do you think are they good for 2.35 big apple or it is better wider rims?

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    Quote Originally Posted by irvin_steinert View Post
    @ciux
    Nice bike, very similar to how I run mine, two modes, both with drop bars. I love the fat tire road bike. Recently I bypassed a group of slow movers by dropping off the path and ridding along a grassy, sloped ridge. My 60mm Big Apple tires held fast without digging in! I also love how they smooth out the ride on rough surfaces (which in reality is roads/paths).
    In my road version the KM mounts 2.0 marathon supreme, I think next tires will are big apple too.

    What about your rims inner width?
    Mine are 19mm. Do you think it's enough to mount the 2.35 big apple or it's better wider rims?

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    Here's my KM, wasn't sure about the red accents (from my old build) and mint green, but it's growing on me.

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    Supremes vs Big Apples

    Quote Originally Posted by ciux View Post
    In my road version the KM mounts 2.0 marathon supreme, I think next tires will are big apple too.

    What about your rims inner width?
    Mine are 19mm. Do you think it's enough to mount the 2.35 big apple or it's better wider rims?
    My wheels are Vuelta Nine so probably similar to 19 inner width. I will say they do "balloon out" from the rim almost surprisingly so.

    I think you made a good choice with the Marathon Supremes and I was tempted to go that way but their cost was almost double and I just wanted to try the fattest tire I could. I have some Supremes on my 26er townie that I once used on a MTB/commuter and I've always loved them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeskej View Post
    Here's my KM, wasn't sure about the red accents (from my old build) and mint green, but it's growing on me.

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    Looks good to me!

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    Just for sh!ts n' giggles I through a RH/Knard into my KM to see what it was all about...and it was all about that "I had way too many cookies @ xmas and cannot fit into my old jeans" vibe.

    No way this would evar fit...NEVER!

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    after trying a set of continental mountain king 2.4's and discovering the rear tire rubbed on the 19 tooth gear of the dos enos i went back to the maxxis ardent 2.4 and since i recently put a dirt wizard rear/knard front combo on the krampus i had a chronicle in pretty good shape so i slapped that on the front...

    running a blackspire 32t chainring with a white industries dos enos 17/19 and the ardent/chronicle combo of velocity blunt 35's...
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    really liking the new dos enos 17/19,previously had a dos enos 20/22 but i had stopped using the 22 tooth and the 20 tooth while fine on the trails was maddeningly slow on the road...the 17 tooth is just about perfect for the commute to the trails,except on longer hills of course,and the 19 is just that little bit faster on the trails...already set a dozen personal records on the trails and a nasty road climb...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    after trying a set of continental mountain king 2.4's and discovering the rear tire rubbed on the 19 tooth gear of the dos enos i went back to the maxxis ardent 2.4 and since i recently put a dirt wizard rear/knard front combo on the krampus i had a chronicle in pretty good shape so i slapped that on the front...

    running a blackspire 32t chainring with a white industries dos enos 17/19 and the ardent/chronicle combo of velocity blunt 35's...

    really liking the new dos enos 17/19,previously had a dos enos 20/22 but i had stopped using the 22 tooth and the 20 tooth while fine on the trails was maddeningly slow on the road...the 17 tooth is just about perfect for the commute to the trails,except on longer hills of course,and the 19 is just that little bit faster on the trails...already set a dozen personal records on the trails and a nasty road climb...
    I had the Ardent 2.4/Blunt 35 combo in the past. Very nice, but also heavy for me. You're a monster for pushing that around. I'm back to Crest and Ikon 2.35's.

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    i admit the 17 tooth gear is still kicking my ass on the hills...but sadly the karate monkey even set up like this is still my lightest bike...not sad really,since its a badass piece of steel...and worth it for me to drag around that big front tire since my 50 year old bones arent too fond of the abuse of riding full rigid bikes some days...and i admit theres a certain satisfaction to grabbing strava top 10s when you know the other people on the list are on full squish carbon fiber for the most part...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    after trying a set of continental mountain king 2.4's and discovering the rear tire rubbed on the 19 tooth gear of the dos enos i went back to the maxxis ardent 2.4 and since i recently put a dirt wizard rear/knard front combo on the krampus i had a chronicle in pretty good shape so i slapped that on the front...

    running a blackspire 32t chainring with a white industries dos enos 17/19 and the ardent/chronicle combo of velocity blunt 35's...
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    really liking the new dos enos 17/19,previously had a dos enos 20/22 but i had stopped using the 22 tooth and the 20 tooth while fine on the trails was maddeningly slow on the road...the 17 tooth is just about perfect for the commute to the trails,except on longer hills of course,and the 19 is just that little bit faster on the trails...already set a dozen personal records on the trails and a nasty road climb...
    I think you just sold me on the 17/19 dos eno for my Ogre. Also 32 in front.

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    yeah,the white industries stuff is really well made,used the 20/22 for over a year and never a problem...
    in this particular setup the bike comp,which doesnt have a setting for a 29er+ tire so take it with a grain of salt,says im going 16.4 mph pedaling at a sane cadence on the road,so its made the commute to the trails much less an exercise in coasting.i am spending more time climbing out of the saddle,but a few more weeks to get used to the gear and i should hopefully be more able to keep it spinning...

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    Single speeds really shouldn't even have saddles. Matterhorn's No Seat. From the makers of No Post, No Clamp, and No Suspension. Not affiliated with Stan.

    Don't argue cause it is lighter and better.

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    what? the rock hard skinny racing saddle not uncomfortable enough?should i maybe drive some cactus spines through it and wear a hair shirt while i ride? lol

    you would have been happy watching me climb sol canyon road last week,i never sat down for more than a few seconds once i got past the water tank,that 17 tooth had me grunting by the last 100 feet of climbing...

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    with the 17/19 Dos Eno, do you have to adjust your brake caliper when you switch?

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    nope,when i installed it i did just to find the middle ground for both wheel positions,but otherwise theres no adjustment to make when i switch gears...i mean aside from using the tugnut to adjust the chain tension...and i took one link pair out of the chain,and that has been sort of a pain since the tugnut i generally need to swap which hole the axle is running through when i change gears,but with this setup for some reason,no doubt something about the mysteries of single speed gear ratios,the tugnut is maxed out almost in its adjustment range,i think with a 33 tooth up front that wouldnt be true,but at that point i think a 32 up front and a dos enos 16/18 would be slightly easier to keep spinning...

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