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    Now with 30mm less spacers and a beautimous working Ragley Carnegie's bar. Awesome for rigid SS'ing.

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    I like that I could drop 30+mm of spacers and still get the bars just a tick below saddle height (my preferred location).

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    @GreenLightGo

    Nice! Ive been thinking of getting the Carnegies since they seem to provide an excellent compromise between the more conventional bars and the extreme sweep bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGenTwo
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    Nice! Ive been thinking of getting the Carnegies since they seem to provide an excellent compromise between the more conventional bars and the extreme sweep bars.
    I've had them in the fleet for a while - they were on my wife's bike just staring me in the face. I like the 'alt' bar, have run the Titec H-bar or J-bar for the past 3 years on my singlespeed bikes.

    The Carnegie's bar has a great feel to it and carving a corner with this set of handlebars is fantastic - not sure how they accomplished that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLightGo
    I've had them in the fleet for a while - they were on my wife's bike just staring me in the face. I like the 'alt' bar, have run the Titec H-bar or J-bar for the past 3 years on my singlespeed bikes.

    The Carnegie's bar has a great feel to it and carving a corner with this set of handlebars is fantastic - not sure how they accomplished that.

    My KM is currently equipped with a Salsa 17degree sweep Pro Moto flat bar . This is the sweepiest bar I have ever used , Glad I picked this up for my first 29er . .

    They are not equipped with designs that negate a longer stem, so I am also running them with 100mm Thomson Elite X4s now .

    I will post pictures of my karate monkey soon

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    My 18" KM's conversion to 1x9 finished, used a Surly SS Chainring 33t and MRP 1.x chain guide, cost was about $75, and couldnt be any happier atm. Now with that Front Derailer gone another water bottle cage incoming. Might remove the monkeynuts and experiment with losing 10mm+ of chainstay.


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    Quote Originally Posted by riiz
    My 18" KM's conversion to 1x9 finished, used a Surly SS Chainring 33t and MRP 1.x chain guide, cost was about $75, and couldnt be any happier atm. Now with that Front Derailer gone another water bottle cage incoming. Might remove the monkeynuts and experiment with losing 10mm+ of chainstay.

    Nice setup! You'll get the best mud clearance on that 2.4 Ardent by keeping the monkey nuts.
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    Those are actually the 2.25 Ardents, but I might play around with a 2.4 on the front in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riiz
    Those are actually the 2.25 Ardents, but I might play around with a 2.4 on the front in the near future.
    My Monkey

    2.4 Ardent in the front, 2.1 WTB motoraptor in the rear.

    Other specs:
    Syntace Vector Carbon 12* 685mm bar
    Gravity Light Stem
    Charge Spoon
    ODI Rogue Grips
    WTB wheels with Shimano hubs
    Thomson seatpost
    Shimano cranks

    I will be posting a thorough build as the bike transforms into a budget blinglespeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefty W.
    Here's my new ride.
    what tires are those? size?

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    RebaMonkey

    *Finally* got a working Reba SL fork after going through four of them in about two weeks. It all worked out rather well as I also got the full Push rebuild for free (paid for by the LBS where I bought the fork).

    Also picked up some Velocity Blunts / XT wheels off fleabay (actually through same LBS) for cheap. Waiting on some Bontrager rims strips / valves to try a tubeless conversion.

    I've gotten in two good rides with this setup, it feels *great*.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    Thanks guys. Looks like I will order a Tuggnut today (and a proper chain).

    My experiment at the moment is just using my regular QR hub/wheel converted with one of the Gusset SS conversion kits to get an idea and some trail time with a SS. The kit came with a 16 and an 18T cog. I put the 16T on with a 29T chainring to get me close to the gear inch de facto starting standard of 52.

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    Been messing around on it for a month now. I finally pulled out the camera to take a few shots today. Hard to believe I've had this frame since 2003 and here it is 8 years later for the first try at SS'ing it.

    25.08 pounds with the heavy Slime filled tubes, Thudbuster, Ardent 2.4's and boat anchor pedals. She's not going to win any beauty contests, but it's nice to have in the bike stable.

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    How do you like the thudbuster? I've been toying with the idea of adding one to my KM.

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    I'm running an LT thudbuster with the same Ardent 2.4 on the rear.

    I like it a lot. The KM rides harsher than most of the other 29ers I've owned. I think it's a combination of short chainstays and minimal seat post and my weight (<160).

    With the thud it's a non-issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holmes
    How do you like the thudbuster? I've been toying with the idea of adding one to my KM.
    Takes the edge off - at least the ST version. I've tried the LT version on my KM as well (nice and plush), but the saddle was already mounted to the ST, so I just used it for the build. SS, rigid, and a standard seatpost is a nice simple combo, but ouch!!! I'm too used to full suspension 29"ers to not have something provide some flex on the KM.

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    Thanks guys - I may just have to try a thudbuster on the KM at some point. Although I am seriously contemplating a FS rig for next season so it might be moot.

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    Bruce - that's a pure fun machine build there - nice job!
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    Out on Continental Divide Trail. September 2010.



    2003 model. On 3rd color. Great bike.

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    had for couple months and still really enjoying
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    Couple action shots from today on the monkey...



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    I swapped over most of the parts from my 05 Skid Mark KM. New Features for 2011 include a lower stand over height, revised rear drop out, and new cable routings. I'm really digging the full length cables and increased stand over.

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    Oh my.. That looks really nice. Not sure if it's the new paintwork, but that Surly KM is one of the nicest Ive ever seen .

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    That is EXACTLY what I want! Full length cables UNDER the top tube with three cable holddowns. The lower standover isn't bad either. I have been planning on customizing my KM by cutting off the brakes bosses and cable guides, adding cables holddowns under the top tube, and then having the frame prepped and powdercoated a "special" color.

    huevos, what is different about the drop outs? This is the first time I have heard anything about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumbee1
    huevos, what is different about the drop outs? This is the first time I have heard anything about them.
    The rear drop out was changed to allow for removal of the rear wheel without loosening the brake caliper bolts. With a standard 160mm rotor it should work flawlessly, with my 200mm rotor on the back, i found I needed to add some spacers on the rear caliper to get the rear wheel in and out...i may just go to a smaller rotor because Im a little worried the mounting bolts dont have enough bite with the spacers. Ill try to post some pics of the difference if I get a chance this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huevos

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    Very nice looking Battleship Gray!

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    Yooper KM

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    @Huevos Just ordered a Battleship grey KM yesterday. What size frame do you ride?

    Sweet color!

    Amazing, after 7 (!) years of thinking about the KM i finally jumped in :-) Will post some pictures when it arives (probably mid december)

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    Used Monkey frame
    Syntace Vector bar
    Avid BB7 brakes
    Charge Spoon saddle
    Shimano XT crankset (180mm)
    Crank Bros Mallet 2 pedals
    Shimano/WTB wheelset
    Maxxis Ardents 2.4 front and back

    I still need to replace the black Thomson seatpost with silver Thomson seatpost. Both the front and back wheels need to be rebuilt.

    Plans for the future:
    Modify frame - replace top tube cable stops with cable holddowns under the top tube, cut off brake bosses, powdercoat frame, fork, and stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socrates69
    @Huevos Just ordered a Battleship grey KM yesterday. What size frame do you ride?

    Sweet color!

    Amazing, after 7 (!) years of thinking about the KM i finally jumped in :-) Will post some pictures when it arives (probably mid december)
    mine is a 22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huevos
    mine is a 22.
    Very interesting. The standover on the new 22" visually appears to be the same as the older 20". My Monkey is a 20" and a line drawn from the top tube intersects the top of the tire at the same spot as your 22".

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    Campstove Karate Monkey

    Great versatile bike
    22" Frame
    Halo Freedom Disc
    XT 180mm
    XT 4pod
    Surly Torsion Bar
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    Here's my new one, she weighs in at 25 lbs on the nose. Not too shabby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumbee1
    Very interesting. The standover on the new 22" visually appears to be the same as the older 20". My Monkey is a 20" and a line drawn from the top tube intersects the top of the tire at the same spot as your 22".
    Hence my question. I thought for sure it was a 20" I really like the look of the new frame. It looks definitely more compact. Keep them new-frame pictures coming ;-) And ofcourse don't hold back any pictures of the older ones :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbdee
    Here's my new one, she weighs in at 25 lbs on the nose. Not too shabby.
    Very nice new monkey
    Is that a medium?
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    How does she ride?

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    That should be a medium, but it certainly looks like my 16" Monkey !



    Ill be grabbing one of these newly designed KM, maybe once the warranty on this one(08) is over .

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    Quote Originally Posted by socrates69
    Hence my question. I thought for sure it was a 20" I really like the look of the new frame. It looks definitely more compact. Keep them new-frame pictures coming ;-) And ofcourse don't hold back any pictures of the older ones :-)
    The stand over on the 22" 2011 KM is .2 inches higher than the stand over on the earlier 20" KMs.

    see: http://surlybikes.com/bikes/karate_monkey_complete/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullit_cn
    Very nice new monkey
    Is that a medium?
    Yep, it's an 18". I had a 2003 20" and the medium fits and feels way better.
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    Oh oh

    Wrong place to post. Sorry, please remove.
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    KM 2011 Build list

    Hi there,

    Thought i post my KM SS build list of the stuff i just ordered. Obviously i don't have any picures yet because, well ... i don't have the bike yet. I'm experimenting with Misfit Psycles parts (stem, post and bars) just because i like the company and the website. There, ehh ... different. Will post my findings of these parts later. While not a weight weenie (obviously) i'm aiming between 11-12 KG (24-26 lbs) fully build. Any experts who can confirm i'm on the right rack with this range?

    The Surly grey in combination with all the polished silver parts and the brown saddle/grips should make a nice combination.

    Now the waiting game begins. ETA half december. Pictures in due time...

    By the way, love this thread! Great KM's Great pictures. Hope i can post some soon.

    Right now the weather is just about perfect ... great trails just a mile from my house, no wind, clear skies, crisp temperature ... and i'm ... behind my computer. Not the place i want to be right now :-)

    Frame 2011 20" Surly Karate Monkey Grey
    Clamp Surly Silver
    Fork Surly 2011 Karate Monkey Grey
    Headset Chris King NoThreadset Silver
    Bracket Phil Wood
    Cranks Middleburn + Spider silver
    Pedals Shimano PDA 530 silver
    Chainring Middleburn 36t
    Chain KMC X1
    Brakes BB7 185mm/160mm
    Brake Levers Avid SL levers
    Wheels Chris King Singlespeed silver - DT Comp -Salsa Semi Silver + CK 19t
    Cog See wheels
    Tires WTB Weirwolf 2.55
    Tubes Schwalbe
    seatpost MisFit 350mm silver
    Saddle Brooks Swift brown
    Stem MisFit Fugly silver
    Handlebars Misfit Fubar silver
    Grips Cork
    Cables Nokon brake set silver
    Bidon cage 2x King Cage Ti

    Happy trails!

    PS Anybody knows some polished (!) silver brake levers? Can't find any.
    Last edited by socrates69; 11-22-2010 at 04:40 AM.

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    For a little fun and to do a comparison of sorts of steel vs Alu I threw my Manitou Minute 120 fork on the Monkey for a day and have to say it really made it super fun, but I know it wasn't designed around that height fork and I have an alu frame designed for it already, so only did it for the one day - looks great though. Really liked the taller BB, didn't have to worry so much about pedal strikes and amazingly the bike still handled really well with it. Can't say I like the hsorter front centre though, especially with the axle all the way forward and the 120 fork I could really feel the twitchiness, not too bad, but you had to constantly be paying attention.

    Build in pic....Pro2/Flow wheels, X7 RD, LX FD, X9 shifters, M760 cranks 34/46 rings, 110/6 stem, cheapie seatpost, flat bar 9 degree sweep, Juicy7s F/Mono Min R.
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    Quote Originally Posted by socrates69
    PS Anybody knows some polished (!) silver brake levers? Can't find any.
    Paul Love Levers come in silver....

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    My Monkey

    I bought this bike I don't know how long and it has seen several different iterations over the past several years. It lived most of it's life as a SS with knobbies but has seen time as a commuter with slicks, a 1x9, 3x9, dinglespeed.

    Now I'm experimenting with a 6 speed. 2 chainrings manually shifted, 3 cogs from an exploded 12-25 cassette and an old 105 double rear derailluer. I've got a pretty decent gear range 36-32 upfront and 21, 17, 15 in the rear. I could only fit 3 cogs on my Novatec hub's short cassette body. Nothing special but she's mine.

    Happy trails!
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    Build list?

    Quote Originally Posted by mtbdee
    Here's my new one, she weighs in at 25 lbs on the nose. Not too shabby.
    Nice! 25 lbs is what i'm aiming for.
    Can you please give us the build list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by socrates69
    Nice! 25 lbs is what i'm aiming for.
    Can you please give us the build list?
    Sure can!

    It now has a 1x9 setup with an X9 shifter, X7 rear derailleur, XT chain, Third Eye Chain watcher and a Deore 11-34 cassette) and weighs 26lb 10 oz

    The SS build is below:

    WTB speedisc lites laced to Speedisc rims 32h.

    Panaracer Rampage 2.3 front and rear with tubes (need to convert to tubeless)

    Salsa skewers

    BB7s with XTR levers and Odyssey Linear Slic Kable and housing (really nice stuff).

    Thomson Elite 27.2 x 390 (cut down from 410)

    WTB Devo saddle cro-mo rails

    SLX crankset with a Vuelta 32t aluminum chainring and a FSA clear poly bash.

    Surly 21t cog (lots of steep climbing at our local trails)

    XT pedals

    Ritchey Pro stem 90mm

    Easton Monkey Lite DH 710mm width

    King headset

    ODI lock on grips

    Sram PC 830 chain

    Niner You are What You Drink top cap

    That's about it. I'd have kept it a SS but I've been dealing with some very old running related knee issues and really need gears for a while. At least until I get them sorted, then it'll be back to SS.
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    Monkey Love

    I've been loving looking at all the monkeys while waiting on mine to show up from Fed Ex. This is my first 29er and I think the Karate Monkey will be an awesome introduction.

    So far it's still being built, (spent all day driving around to black friday stores only to be given limited time to build my new ride) I have dubbed this build the Judo Ape.

    Cell phone build picture.


    Hopefully I will finish it up tomorrow and get out on a ride to break it in.

    Build is focusing on a winter commuter/single track bike, built with parts I've had laying around waiting to see some dirt.

    Frame & Fork: Surly Karate Monkey
    Stem: Syntace F129
    Bar: FSA 180 Flat Now Race Face Evolve DH White
    Grips: ESI Silicone
    Shifters: Shimano XT M700 Friction Thumbies
    Brakes: Hope Mono Mini 7" front 6" rear
    Headset: Chris King
    Wheels: WTB SpeedDisc Formula Hubs SS rear
    Tires: Conti Mountain King 29x2.2
    Cassette: Shimano Ultegra 10spd 23..21..19..17 cogs Now 28.. 23.. 17.. cogs on SS hub
    Crank: Race Face Evolve X-Type 44-32
    Pedals: Crank Bros. Candy C
    Rear Derailleur: Shimano XTR M-951 Short Cage Rapid Rise Now XTR M-952 Long Cage
    Front Derailleur: Shimano XT M732 Top Mount Bottom Pull
    Seat post: Thomson Setback 26.8 + Coors can shim
    Seat: Fizik Arione Tri

    The gearing choice should give me 8 very usable ratios for both street and trail, but I may change it all up after my first ride, only one way to find out!



    Well I had my first short ride on the trail and I decided that I may need to rethink my gear choices for the trail (everything was rideable but wished for a bit lower of a gear for the longer climbs) and I need to work on the tire pressure (I know the mountain kings aren't known as great tires for the trail but they roll great on the pavement at 65psi {did 38 front and 32 rear on trail})



    Another crappy picture but at least its complete.


    Update: After spending plenty of time on the trail on the pavement and in the snow I have decided to change up the rear cogs for the rest of the winter until I get around to finding a 22T... So I have decided to take some exploded cassettes and run a 28.. 23.. 17.. in the rear and 44.. 32.. in the front. I have also found that running the 2.2 Mountain Kings between 20 and 30 psi really made a difference and took care of the teeth rattling.
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    Chainline was a problem. I ended up with a 32t on this crankset to get 47.5mm. It looks like I have clearance to go to a 34t.


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    Nicely done Bernard! That looks like a great commuter. I was very close to going the alfine route on mine.

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    Hey Huevos, if you measure vertically above the BB what height do you get with your current setup on the 22" KM? Have to ask as I have the old model and when I measure it right now with Ardent 2.25" R/ WW LT F I get about the same meaurement they're stating for th new one - I get 33.75" with tape held infront of BB. According to what you're saying they've dropped it about an inch?
    Quote Originally Posted by huevos
    The stand over on the 22" 2011 KM is .2 inches higher than the stand over on the earlier 20" KMs.

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    @LyNx Ive got a Specialized 2 Bliss 2.0 on the back and a 2.35 exiwolf up front. When I measured the standover with the tape bisecting the axle of the BB, the tape reads 31.75. When I measure closer to the middle of the top tube, my number is much closer to the figures from Surly.

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    Thanks man, that's really great, that's a 1/2" lower than when I have on my 38mm city slickers Won't help me really though, as besides that and the annoying brake tabs my Monkey is working just fine Me getting a sweet AM alu hardtail since hasn't improved the need to want a new one either - although the ride of the steel is definitely smoover.

    Quote Originally Posted by huevos
    @LyNx Ive got a Specialized 2 Bliss 2.0 on the back and a 2.35 exiwolf up front. When I measured the standover with the tape bisecting the axle of the BB, the tape reads 31.75. When I measure closer to the middle of the top tube, my number is much closer to the figures from Surly.
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    Just ordered my Monkey. Hopefully will have it by the weekend! Stoked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by telethor
    Just ordered my Monkey. Hopefully will have it by the weekend! Stoked!
    Battleship or Black?

    I was curious if anyone has taken delivery of the new 2011 Karate Monkey frame/fork in the black color yet. Plenty of gray bikes have been shown, but I don't recall seeing it in black yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    Battleship or Black?

    I was curious if anyone has taken delivery of the new 2011 Karate Monkey frame/fork in the black color yet. Plenty of gray bikes have been shown, but I don't recall seeing it in black yet.

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    I went with black. I don't think the gray looks bad at all, but I think the black looks nicer IMO. I'll post it up when it arrives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by telethor
    I went with black. I don't think the gray looks bad at all, but I think the black looks nicer IMO. I'll post it up when it arrives.
    Sweet. I think yours will be the first new frame in black posted. I look forward to seeing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by telethor
    I went with black. I don't think the gray looks bad at all, but I think the black looks nicer IMO. I'll post it up when it arrives.
    Agree, black is a better color than the new grey. imo

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    I went black too
    Just pick up mine last night and Im excited to build it up tonight
    I think I need to file a "not feeling well" syndrome this afternoon so I can go home and have the building process started,
    Will post my picture later tonight
    Cheers
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    There is a pic of the new black frame, 7 posts down from Bruce Brown's, on page 8 of the "Post pics of your FULLY RIGID SS 29er" thread in the 29er forum. It's wearing drop bars, sitting across some RR tracks. Looks like a small frame. Here's the link. Post pics of your FULLY RIGID SS 29er

    And here's a pic of my Battleship Gray KM, for all you gray bashers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fleadirt
    There is a pic of the new black frame, 7 posts down from Bruce Brown's, on page 8 of the "Post pics of your FULLY RIGID SS 29er" thread in the 29er forum. It's wearing drop bars, sitting across some RR tracks. Looks like a small frame. Here's the link. Post pics of your FULLY RIGID SS 29er

    And here's a pic of my Battleship Gray KM, for all you gray bashers!

    Hey, I like grey but just prefer black.

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    I hear you man! I really had a tough time deciding between the two colors
    when ordering mine. My last bike was black, so I decided it was time for
    a change of color.

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    Here's my black Monkey. I just picked it up after work tonight. I got the complete since I didn't have many swappable parts. I'd still like to keep my Heckler for more techy days... we'll see I figure I'll upgrade here and there over time.

    No trail time yet, but on the road, yard grass, and sidewalks it seems to be what I want. Hopefully it doesn't snow tonight in NC (horrible, being in UT for the last 5 years, I lived on snow!) and I can get a ride in tomorrow.

    FWIW, Cycletherapy in Lewisville, NC (just outside of Winston-Salem) is the best bike shop I've dealt with. I ordered the bike on Tuesday at 4:55 PM. It was in the shop and built by 5:15 PM Friday. Thanks Mike!

    This is just in the living room. Not the best light. Better pictures to come.

    How clean does that look?


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    I like the way Surly kept their black frames. This color option has been a very faithful "Surly color", I must say .

    The new 2011 builds all look pretty sick. Can anyone comment on the differences in ride quality between the 2011 and the older style frames? I am not so keen on the Taiwan generic parts on the stock build though, always preferred a custom spec-ed built .

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    Quote Originally Posted by telethor
    Here's my black Monkey. I just picked it up after work tonight. I got the complete since I didn't have many swappable parts. I'd still like to keep my Heckler for more techy days... we'll see I figure I'll upgrade here and there over time.

    No trail time yet, but on the road, yard grass, and sidewalks it seems to be what I want. Hopefully it doesn't snow tonight in NC (horrible, being in UT for the last 5 years, I lived on snow!) and I can get a ride in tomorrow.

    FWIW, Cycletherapy in Lewisville, NC (just outside of Winston-Salem) is the best bike shop I've dealt with. I ordered the bike on Tuesday at 4:55 PM. It was in the shop and built by 5:15 PM Friday. Thanks Mike!

    This is just in the living room. Not the best light. Better pictures to come.

    How clean does that look?

    That is very nice looking. Black is beautiful. What size did you get? Looking forward to your ride report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLightGo
    Now with 30mm less spacers and a beautimous working Ragley Carnegie's bar. Awesome for rigid SS'ing.

    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/KV4-o-KDrEP1CG8as6ecxA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/_2W6rELw9q40/THw1cQQnk2I/AAAAAAAAD-s/r6OKI7Soj-Q/s800/IMG_6630.JPG" /></a>

    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/q2qwGjUPL4D6Fk2wQrUXGQ?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_2W6rELw9q40/THw1ch-o6EI/AAAAAAAAD-0/rQpzPhkWjjM/s800/IMG_6632.JPG" /></a>

    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/kUO2fa9mWKJJ8KF6Wpn2Ag?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_2W6rELw9q40/TJlBWCkgbYI/AAAAAAAAEB4/QpHfYW8TDvs/s800/IMG_6737.JPG" /></a>

    I like that I could drop 30+mm of spacers and still get the bars just a tick below saddle height (my preferred location).

    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/gbOzHG72WCDIJrdnGcbSZg?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_2W6rELw9q40/TJlBWUHlACI/AAAAAAAAEB8/ji-CS2rrCEA/s800/IMG_6740.JPG" /></a>

    I call dibs on that bike when you want to sell, but dude, drink much?

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    The KM did not disappoint. It was a little weird at first having no full suspension sag, but I got used to it quickly. I was surprised at how fast I rode as I was originally expecting to slow down a lot. Love the 29 inches. Rolls over almost everything and maintains momentum. I found one thing to work on - my climbing position out of the saddle. On one short but steepish climb I was way too forward out of the saddle. Didn't unweight the front at a big root and "disembarked". Saw stars and may or may not have broken my hand. I'm hoping it's nothing major. Loooove the bike though. Granted it's a new bike, but I was so much more tuned into the ride and working with the trail instead of letting the suspension do it. I sense this bike getting a lot of attention.

    Some stoke:





    Wife was there too. She took most of the pictures.




    Editted to add: It's 20" frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jvossman
    I call dibs on that bike when you want to sell, but dude, drink much?
    JV, as a fellow South Floridian, I thought you would recognize my hurricane preparedness stocks 24 gallons.....just in case

    I did mov them a while back though.......

    No dice on the sale! I love this bike!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fleadirt
    There is a pic of the new black frame, 7 posts down from Bruce Brown's, on page 8 of the "Post pics of your FULLY RIGID SS 29er" thread in the 29er forum. It's wearing drop bars, sitting across some RR tracks. Looks like a small frame. Here's the link. Post pics of your FULLY RIGID SS 29er
    Dang, I missed that one. I guess I saw the drop bars and skimmed right on by it.

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    sorry can't find it. Only one I see is a Kona Unit on some snowwy tracks.

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    jvossman, look @ Post #369.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGenTwo
    I like the way Surly kept their black frames. This color option has been a very faithful "Surly color", I must say .

    The new 2011 builds all look pretty sick. Can anyone comment on the differences in ride quality between the 2011 and the older style frames? I am not so keen on the Taiwan generic parts on the stock build though, always preferred a custom spec-ed built .
    There is no noticeable change in ride quality between years. As far as I know, same steel, same builders, same basic geometry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fleadirt
    jvossman, look @ Post #369.
    i'm stupid, but don't see where do you see the post #?

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    Here it is. The post #'s are located on the far right, opposite from time/date the post was made.
    Not viewable if you have your page magnified.



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    my first 29'er

    My tonight posting of pictures is very long...so here it is just after I build it.
    Once it goes out to the parking lot, then to the trail, the picture taking was totally forgotten

    The first time I roll my leg over the top tube, it reminds me when I was a kid trying to mount my father's bike.

    At first it feels tall but after tweaking with steer tube spacers the other things, I easily tend to blend with the bike.

    didn't even need more than 5mins to get use to it. it just feels right.

    Handling is excellent, steering is quick but not scary on steep stuff probably because 29'er rolls easily on technical stuffs,

    Now here's the funny thing, when I try to ride my favorite and beloved Turner 5 Spot (26'er of course) it feels strange, the steering on a slack side of 68 feels weird, the wheels looks like a bmx wheels now

    Now this might give me new problem in the future

    action shots would be better, but this simple one for now, cheers
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    Still love my RFX even with the Monkey sitting nex to it. You could always build a Sultan!

    happy trails...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullit_cn
    Now here's the funny thing, when I try to ride my favorite and beloved Turner 5 Spot (26'er of course) it feels strange, the steering on a slack side of 68 feels weird, the wheels looks like a bmx wheels now

    Welcome to the big wheels and what it does to the rest of the bikes you own.

    Now this might give me new problem in the future

    See below....

    action shots would be better, but this simple one for now, cheers
    Now that's a nice shot of one of the new black beauties!!! Sweet build and enjoy it. Let us know when that Turner 5 Spot gets sold and you get a full suspension 29"er to add to your Monkey. It's the logical next step, trust me.

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    Thanks Men,
    I've been dreaming of the new 5 Spot to replace my old one for my next project but that changes now

    Really a headache to choose between the two, or the Three once the RFX comes out in 2012
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    Here's my KM at the Barton Creek Greenbelt several weeks ago. I bought it as a complete with the intention of it being my urban ride, and its sort of became my only bike instead. I added gears (3x6) and some beefier wheels with bigger rotors. Also switched out most of the cockpit to what you see here. I'm really happy with it. It truly is a great, versatile bike.


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    We had a sanctioned run/mtb duathalon after a whole lot of rain. Trail took a bit of a beating but will be ok with some work. The KM ate the mud for breakfast.

    Muddy monkey.

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    Finally the 20" KM grey has arrived

    Took her out for a spin today (minutes after i picked her up).

    Apart for the grips (diameter is too small, probably will order a set of Ergon Bio Cork grips) this bike handles really well. I LOVE it!

    The saddle (Brooks Ti Swift) is amazing, no complaints even after two hours of riding. It feels like the rails is flexing a bit, just the right way. The FuBar is a really nice surprise. The brakes are amazing (BB7). Love the handling, the big wheels, the simplicity of SS ... oh well ... I had a ton of fun today.

    Cheers. Good thing i have nothing planned tomorrow ...
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    digging the cork and brooks Socrates

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    My 2008 Karate Monkey.

    After participating in two overseas mountain bike races, I can say that I've got the build dialed in already.

    Specs:
    Karate Monkey frame and fork
    Chris King black headset
    Salsa Pro Moto 17 deg, 710mm long
    Thomson Elite 100mm stem
    Thomson Elite seatpost
    Thomson Elite seatclamp
    Middleburn RS7 w/ SKF Stainless Steel BB
    2011 XTR Race pedals
    KMC X9 chain
    Fizik Gobi Xm
    Ergon GE1 White
    Magura Louise Carbon brakeset w/ Hope floating rotors
    Front Wheel: a2z hub w/ DT revolution laced to Salsa Semi rims. Stan's sealant with Racing Ralph 2.4
    Rear Wheel: Hadley 72-pt hub w/Dt revolution laced to Salsa Semi rims. Racing Ralph 2.4





    Gearing: 32:20

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    Just built her up. Maiden ride tom. Some crappy phone pics.









    Surly Karate monkey frame
    American classic wheels
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    Surly open bars
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    Here's my setup after doing some warranty-voiding frame modifications (detailed here: Friday Show and Tell - 04/08/11 ):

    - 200X Surly Karate Monkey 20"
    - Fox F29 Fork with spacer removed to make it 100mm travel (G2 geometry, taken off a GF Rig)
    - Cane Creek 100 Headset
    - Ibis stock stem
    - On-One Mary Bars
    - Ergon GX-1 Team Issue Grips
    - Avid BB7s with crappy 160 Roundagon rotors and awesome Speed Dial levers
    - Bontrager Rhythm Comp Rear wheel with Schwalbe Rocket Ron 2.25
    - Bontrager Rhythm front wheel (not even a Comp, from before they went to sealed cartridge bearings = suck) with Schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.25
    - WTB seat of some kind
    - Pure Race KS i851 dropper post (best $50 I've ever spent)
    - 190mm Profile BMX cranks
    - Animal 28T chainwheel / 18T and 22T rear cogs on cassette
    - shaved off everything unnecessary to make this a permanent-SS bike with internal cable routing







    A little muddy, better shot of the cable routing for the dropper post:


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    Mine's arriving soon (hopefully) great ideas, loving the drop bar approach and the cable routing as above

    Just hope I don't go back to the drawing board before it arrives for my wallets sake!

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    The Chimp

    she's a big'n
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Goldenberg
    she's a big'n
    Nice! Is that the 22" sized Monkey?

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    Post-race muddy monkey.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aTomOfAllTrades

    True NC native:
    Oh my God Cheerwine is the best!

    We stock up whenever we go to NC, but now we have a local mom and pop grocer that gets Cheerwine here in North Florida. Awesome stuff.

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    Can someone post a photo of a 2011 with the bars turned around and the cranks horizontal, thank you in advance.

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    Carnegie bars?

    Green light Go, are those the flat Carnegie bars, and just for interest why upside down? Thinking of getting one so would be interested in your feedback
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by renovator
    Green light Go, are those the flat Carnegie bars, and just for interest why upside down? Thinking of getting one so would be interested in your feedback
    Thanks
    I'm pretty sure you're asking me, but no they're actually typical On-One Mary bars run with the rise, right-side up. Personal flavor of course, but I love them for suspended riding...when I put the rigid fork on there my hands end up getting rattled so much they slide inward on the grips and tear my hands up, so I'm going to put flat bars on for rigid riding from now on. The sweep is really comfy otherwise.
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    Karate Monkey in the Hudson Valley, Spring 2011
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    I really want to replace my crosscheck frame set with a KM frame set. I want to ride harder than the Xcheck frame should be ridden, and the KM can do everything the Xcheck can plus some. Thats the way it seems anyway. It will ride trails better, and potentially tour better should I decide to do that? My Xcheck is very new, so i figure I wouldn't lose too much in the swap. Am I crazy to do this? I don't think so, but you all ought to know better. What say you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaultbrad
    I really want to replace my crosscheck frame set with a KM frame set. I want to ride harder than the Xcheck frame should be ridden, and the KM can do everything the Xcheck can plus some. Thats the way it seems anyway. It will ride trails better, and potentially tour better should I decide to do that? My Xcheck is very new, so i figure I wouldn't lose too much in the swap. Am I crazy to do this? I don't think so, but you all ought to know better. What say you?
    I actually bought my KM with the intention of gearing it and turning it into a road bike. That was a mistake, It was way too much fun off road and I ended up buying a CC too.

    The CC has a better set of braze-ons than the KM, and the KM can't take a rack when you're running discs. I think the CC would be better suited to touring on the road/dirt roads because of this. Also keep in mind the KM is designed around fat knobbies. Shortly after I bought mine, I tried a taller gear and a set of 700x25 slicks. It felt awkwardly low to the ground and I kept striking the pedals in corners.

    There is some overlap, but the KM is a mountain bike. Have you looked at the Troll (more braze-ons for touring, but little wheels) or one of the Salsa bikes like the Fargo?

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    Thanks for the opinions! Considered those. Would do exclusively fun rides, SS, dirt, with the slight chance of future short tours(unlikely any time soon). Could get old man mtn racks to go with the discs when I get some. I have wheelset, v brakes, cranks, etc, etc, etc. Everything I'd need to just swap over, minus a wider BB. I'm a tallish dude and want to try some 29" dirt action. I like the idea of fat knobbies and I like the track ends on the frame. I also like that I'd be able to get the bars higher. Maybe I'll see what I could get rid of my CC frame set for.

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    I want one of these dang things soooooo bad. And all these pictures aren't helping.

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    data by jon_jones799, on Flickr


    data by jon_jones799, on Flickr

    Simplicity at its finest!

    IMG_1778 by jon_jones799, on Flickr

    Unknown year
    Large frame
    Gravity stem
    Thomson seatpost
    180mm XT crankset
    Mallet2 pedals
    Charge Spoon saddle
    Syntace Vector carbon handlebar
    Avid BB7's
    HBC chainring, Surly cog
    XT hubs with Mavic TN719 wheels
    Ardent 2.4's front and rear for full suspension bombing
    Double tuggnuts on the rear
    and the FUN factor turned up to 11!

    I hope this helps Flynnster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumbee1

    data by jon_jones799, on Flickr


    data by jon_jones799, on Flickr

    Simplicity at its finest!

    IMG_1778 by jon_jones799, on Flickr

    Unknown year
    Large frame
    Gravity stem
    Thomson seatpost
    180mm XT crankset
    Mallet2 pedals
    Charge Spoon saddle
    Syntace Vector carbon handlebar
    Avid BB7's
    HBC chainring, Surly cog
    XT hubs with Mavic TN719 wheels
    Ardent 2.4's front and rear for full suspension bombing
    Double tuggnuts on the rear
    and the FUN factor turned up to 11!

    I hope this helps Flynnster
    Nice build.
    Happiness depends more on the inward disposition of mind than on outward circumstances. Benjamin Franklin

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