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    Cool-blue Rhythm My Monkeys

    Single-and-ready-to-mingle VS It's-complicated
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    Been a while since anyone asked to see my monkey...

    Let's see your KM builds-11244717_885307018203093_2887675356321335120_n.jpg

    Pretty much a stock KM Ops except drivetrain was changed to 3x10 26/36/48 and the tires to 700x41c Knards for more dual sport type duties. I still have the Nobbies for dedicated trail days.

    I've only had this bike a short time and I like pretty much everything about it - I might go a little narrower on the bar, but that's it...

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    just picked this up for my wife. I always liked the Husker Blue color



    will go nicely with my Ogre

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    Quote Originally Posted by dyakko View Post
    Single-and-ready-to-mingle VS It's-complicated
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    Nice stable!
    Open bars or jones bars on the single?
    What front rack on the gearboy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dyakko View Post
    Single-and-ready-to-mingle VS It's-complicated
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    May I ask how you get along removing the rear wheel (on the black geared KM) with a shadow plus derailleur? I had a difficult time using an SLX Shadow Plus mid cage and gave up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dyakko View Post
    single-and-ready-to-mingle vs it's-complicated
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    love both!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MungoRocks View Post
    Nice stable!
    Open bars or jones bars on the single?
    What front rack on the gearboy?
    Thanks.
    Its the open bar for the single.
    The front rack for the geared one is a generic alloy rack i chamced upon a local surplus bikes shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithG View Post
    May I ask how you get along removing the rear wheel (on the black geared KM) with a shadow plus derailleur? I had a difficult time using an SLX Shadow Plus mid cage and gave up.
    Same here. I just pull the wheel and pull the chain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aybee View Post
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    Built this for a colleague! We call it the krampy monkey - most stock parts from my krampus ops transferred to this monkey. Love the bronze rabbit holes and how it accents the all-black theme.

    KM Ops black size small
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    Bronze rabbit holes laced to surly front hubs and shimano rear (krampus stock hubs)
    Knard 27tpi front, Maxxis Ardent rear tires
    Krampus ops stock cockpit
    I wonder if a Dirt Wizard or Fat B Nimble will squeeze in the rear. My "2.55" Weirwolf fit easily on a Blunt.

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    Here's my KM

    Salsa Gordo 29er rims
    Panaracer Rampage 2.35 F+R
    Alfine 8 IGH with Zerode X9 SRAM shifter
    Avid BB7

    Let's see your KM builds-surlykm.jpg

    Thinking about a Rohloff, some wider handlebars, maybe building a Krampus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dyakko View Post
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    I like the early style frames a lot more. Great looking bike.
    A garage full of steel frames means happiness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CS2 View Post
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    I like the early style frames a lot more. Great looking bike.
    Thank you.

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    Yes the earlier frames have a certain something, I've owned both and I have to say the later frame feels more lively.....

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    XL KM in kid pulling mode!

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    Let's see your KM builds-uploadfromtaptalk1435135606875.jpg

    Just picked up from the powder coater. Beginning the build tomorrow.

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    Nice to see the SS non-Ops version back. And in Mint Green!

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    Great news for those wanting to run short chain stays - Mint green looks fresh too. I wonder if they'll keep the non ops Krampus too?

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    ^Not trying to hate at all, but why continue w/ 1-1/8" headtube?

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    I agree, I was hoping the new KM should consider a 44head tube for modern tapered fork compatibility


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    it says it's 44mm on the page

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonshonda View Post
    ^Not trying to hate at all, but why continue w/ 1-1/8" headtube?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bullit_cn View Post
    I agree, I was hoping the new KM should consider a 44head tube for modern tapered fork compatibility


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    Doesn't this mean 44mm HT?

    "Headset/Steertube: Cane Creek 40 for 44mm, 1-1/8˝ threadless. Black"

    You should be able to tell by just looking at the pictures....



    EDIT: titanofchoas beat me to it.

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    Looks like it has MDS dropouts too. Same frame, different build and color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_papa_nuts View Post
    Looks like it has MDS dropouts too. Same frame, different build and color.
    Yep, looks like they're offering the classic SS build with a rigid fork. Otherwise, the frame looks to be the same. Side note - my LBS said they're flying off the shelf so-to-speak and he expects the complete SS to be sold out in the next few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stremf View Post
    Doesn't this mean 44mm HT?

    "Headset/Steertube: Cane Creek 40 for 44mm, 1-1/8˝ threadless. Black"

    You should be able to tell by just looking at the pictures....



    EDIT: titanofchoas beat me to it.
    thanks Stremf, my bad,
    I didn't look closely and just react on others comment.
    It's a good news then,
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    I've built special bikes for all my family and friends while riding a big box store special. Well not anymore...

    I picked up a baby blue frame and fork and sent it to the powder coater (See previous post above) and I finally have an orange Monkey.

    Finished up the build last night and what was going to be a short check ride turned into a 5 mile ride. Everything worked flawlessly!


    1x10 Zee derailleur and 170mm crankset.


    Jones H Bar. XT shifters. Even though I have it set up 1x10 I went ahead and mounted the left shifter in case I decide to change up the drivetrain later.


    TRP Spyke brake levers. XT shifters. Custom cut ESI chunky grips and Planet Bike wrap for the rest of the handlebar.


    TRP Spyke disc brakes with 160mm TRP rotors front and rear.

    The rest-
    Velocity Blunt 35 rims
    XT 32h hubs
    Schwalbe Hurricane 29x2.0 front and rear
    Cheap platform pedals
    Jagwire Pro housing and cables
    Adjustable handlebar stem
    Origin8 suspension seatpost
    Planet Bike a.r.s. seat
    Cateye Padrone wireless in matching orange

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullit_cn View Post
    thanks Stremf, my bad,
    I didn't look closely and just react on others comment.
    It's a good news then,
    My bad if I steered others in the wrong direction. I didn't read close enough obv.

    That looks like a pretty sweet color.

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    Been thinking of building up a KM as a drop bar monstercross style bike, this mint green is really pushing me that way.
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    Built this in April! I love it.

    Large frame in Spray Tan
    SLX Brakeset
    Ashima 160mm rotors (stupid light, no complaints. Im 175lbs)
    Reba RL 100mm fork
    Stans Arch EX wheels
    Ground Control 29x2.3 tires front and rear tubless (had a fasttrak on the back, it might as well have been a slick!)
    Whisky Carbon seatpost (til it snapped, now a Giant alloy post)
    Whisky Carbon cages
    Specialized AL bars off a fatboy trimmed down to 720mm
    Giant 100mm stem
    WTB Volt Race saddle (best saddle Ive ever had)
    KMC X10 Gold chain
    Surly 21t cog and 34t SS Chainring on a crummy Truvativ crank
    M520 pedals

    It weighs in at 24.9lbs
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    Did you buy that as frame only? Bike shop I work with wasn't sure if they could get that color frame. If so I've got a tough choice between that and mint green.

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    I bought the frame and built it yes, I work at a shop. Surly isnt offering Spray Tan for the KM any longer; it's black or mint. When I ordered this one their stock was like 3 larges and 2 mediums left and a few smalls. By the time mine arrived they were gone.

    There are however two small frames left right now in Spray Tan. So if youre a small, get to steppin!!

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    Dang it missed my chance. I'm looking to get a large, hopefully I still can get a mint green and make a sweet single speed drop bar gravel machine.

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    2007 (?) Skidmark Brown KM frame/fork, just built it up to replace my cracked Nimble 9

    -I9/stans SS wheelset
    -XTR 960 cranks, HBC chainring
    -Endless cogs
    -XT brakes
    -whatever tires I had on for the winter.
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    Feels like a bike so far, really trail ride this weekend...
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    Mint green KM on order for my wife.

    It's going to be a 1x10 commuter/gravel grinder/light trail bike.
    Life is too short to ride a bike you don't love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by l'oiseau View Post
    Mint green KM on order for my wife.

    It's going to be a 1x10 commuter/gravel grinder/light trail bike.
    Love the Mint Green - hope you'll post some pics when you get it built up!

    I am thinking about swapping my Krampus SS for a B+ Mint Green KM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nocluejimbo View Post
    Love the Mint Green - hope you'll post some pics when you get it built up!

    I am thinking about swapping my Krampus SS for a B+ Mint Green KM.
    I 'surly' will...

    I'm using everything I learned from my KM Ops to build this to her style, plus a few spare parts I swapped off mine.

    It's going to be a pretty simple bike. Not showing off, not lacking anything. Just a good, fun ride
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    Quote Originally Posted by l'oiseau View Post
    Mint green KM on order for my wife.

    It's going to be a 1x10 commuter/gravel grinder/light trail bike.
    I am tempted to order my wife one as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by nocluejimbo View Post
    I am thinking about swapping my Krampus SS for a B+ Mint Green KM.
    Interesting you are considering swapping the Krampus for a KM. Care to elaborate your reasoning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stremf View Post
    Interesting you are considering swapping the Krampus for a KM. Care to elaborate your reasoning?
    The Krampus seems like a little too much for me to handle, as a super inexperienced MTB rider. It is great for plowing through stuff, but I am thinking about something a little more nimble and compact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nocluejimbo View Post
    The Krampus seems like a little too much for me to handle, as a super inexperienced MTB rider. It is great for plowing through stuff, but I am thinking about something a little more nimble and compact.
    Seriously? Have you tried narrower handlebars, narrower tyres? Make it a little quicker before trading it in for a monkey?
    I have both of these and really love surly bikes, since I got my krampus I haven't touched the KM.

    The ride of the krampus is a lot more modern, slack and easy to control. The KM is a lot more traditionally xc and older school and I do agree faster when moving slower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clockd View Post
    Seriously? Have you tried narrower handlebars, narrower tyres? Make it a little quicker before trading it in for a monkey?
    I have both of these and really love surly bikes, since I got my krampus I haven't touched the KM.

    The ride of the krampus is a lot more modern, slack and easy to control. The KM is a lot more traditionally xc and older school and I do agree faster when moving slower.
    I think a lot of the issues I have stem from the bike simply being too large. I am 6', mostly torso, and I just feel stretched out all of the time on the large.

    I bought it used and don't want to put too much more money into it, when I could just flip it.

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    Got some subtle decals and matching headbadge for the KM. Couldnt get a good shot of the headbadge but you get the idea.


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    Those look totally awesome. Where were they done?


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    Quote Originally Posted by eselsweg View Post
    Those look totally awesome. Where were they done?


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    Thanks!
    I saw a listing for them on ebay awhile back from this vendor. When I went back to order them they weren't listed any longer so I sent the seller a pm through one of their other auctions and they took my order. Here is a link to their etsy store which would probably be easier than ebay to go through. They used to show a lot of decal sets for different brands and models but not so much now so you'll have to ask about what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by l'oiseau View Post
    Mint green KM on order for my wife.

    It's going to be a 1x10 commuter/gravel grinder/light trail bike.
    I would also like to see photos as that mint green is appealing to me and I would be setting it up as a 1x9 all-rounder. What size frame did you order?

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    Quote Originally Posted by corwin1968 View Post
    I would also like to see photos as that mint green is appealing to me and I would be setting it up as a 1x9 all-rounder. What size frame did you order?
    Went with Medium. My bike is a medium and she tried that and liked it. I'm just using a bit shorter stem and narrower bar than I have.

    If she was more into trail riding/single track I probably would have urged her to go for a small.
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    Bike is in - saw the mint green in person... it comes across just a little different than the pictures. It's very, very soft green - almost white... very feminine looking.

    Reminds me a little of a color you might have seen in a 70's bathroom.
    Life is too short to ride a bike you don't love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by l'oiseau View Post
    Bike is in - saw the mint green in person... it comes across just a little different than the pictures. It's very, very soft green - almost white... very feminine looking.

    Reminds me a little of a color you might have seen in a 70's bathroom.
    Sounds like a winner.

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    I think my wife will really like it.

    As for me, I'm happy with boring 'ole black...
    Life is too short to ride a bike you don't love.

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    I wish my wife would want to bike again. My dream is that she rides a KM with me on mine. Hope she likes it!


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    Love this bike. My first bike tour, 293 from San Francisco to Paso Robles. Normally run Schwalbe Smart Sams but put on some better rollers for the trip, Michelin Cross Protect. Still work ok in the dirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danec99 View Post
    Love this bike. My first bike tour, 293 from San Francisco to Paso Robles. Normally run Schwalbe Smart Sams but put on some better rollers for the trip, Michelin Cross Protect. Still work ok in the dirt.
    Nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dyakko View Post
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    What rims do you have on the grey monkey with the skinwalls and are those 2.2" or 2.4"s?

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    KM Suburban

    Monster cross? More like suburban cross. This bike is just fine crossing fields or ascending the berms of the local landscape and has a fantastic grip on wet roads. I thought the Big apples would give a more supple ride but perhaps they need to be broken in a bit - still only about 50 miles on this bike. Running 40PSI for now.
    I am really impressed with the TRP Spyre brakes. I have had Tektro Lyra and Avid BB7 and these have the best feel and operation IMHO.
    The gearing is just right and I have no want for more in fact I could go a bit smaller in the front chainring but I will probably go to a less tall studded tire for winter commuting and that will change the effective gearing

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    Surly KM frame (new 2015)
    Salsa Woodchipper 2 handlebars
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    SRAM X9 10sp rear
    36-11 SRAM cassette
    Race Face Turbine 38t narrow/wide cranks
    SRAM Rival brake shifter R
    SRAM CX brake lever L
    TRP road disc brakes
    Schwalbe 2.35 Big Apples or
    Kenda 2.1 Small Block Eight
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    Minty Fresh!

    My wife's KM 1x10

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    Pretty basic bike.

    1x10 Deore comps
    Deore disc brakes
    700x41 Knard tires (same as I have been using)

    This is my first build, as in I built it myself. It wasn't that bad, some of the frame prep was a PITA and I had some issues with the headset. I think the top of the head tube is a little out of round. I had a hell of a time getting the race to go in, and once it was, you could tell it wasn't perfectly round. It is what it is, not much of a fix for that and the bearing spins freely in there. I think it will be OK, but just an added headache of putting your own stuff together.
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    The Mint Green looks awesome. Thanks for posting.

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    Sorry I can't take better photos

    The color has grown on me. Especially with the black. It reminds me more now of a grasshopper cookie, more in line with the name I suppose.

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    Latest costume for the Monkey...



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    Here's mine:
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    Gravity dropper post - best accessory ever!!
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    Not super light, but rides like a dream - great geometry!
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    Pic of my XL Monkey and chubby rubber

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    18" Husker Blu Karate Monkey frameset (2008)
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    Nice. If anyone knows of an early 16" frame for sale in the UK, please point me in the right direction. I can't find one for love nor money......

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    Quote Originally Posted by flashes View Post
    Nice. If anyone knows of an early 16" frame for sale in the UK, please point me in the right direction. I can't find one for love nor money......
    I got mine from the "Salsa and Surly Traders Group" on Facebook. I don't know how widespread Facebook is in the UK but it's worth watching.

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    2008 in husker blu. Alfine8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manida View Post


    2008 in husker blu. Alfine8.
    Nice! I'm really interested in an IGH someday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corwin1968 View Post
    Nice! I'm really interested in an IGH someday.

    i like my IGH (Alfine), really want a Rohloff though. Updated pic of mine after some stickers (found link from earlier in this thread).


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    Quote Originally Posted by smeagol View Post
    i like my IGH (Alfine), really want a Rohloff though. Updated pic of mine after some stickers (found link from earlier in this thread).

    Yeah, Rohloff is definately what I want but right now both the cost and my need don't justify one. Someday, though.

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    lol,i just realized i have everything i need to build up a karate monkey with an alfine8 except a headset and crankset/bottom bracket and brakes...one of the mint green frames would be nice...

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    Quote Originally Posted by l'oiseau View Post
    Sorry I can't take better photos

    The color has grown on me. Especially with the black. It reminds me more now of a grasshopper cookie, more in line with the name I suppose.

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    So it's more aqua or minty, as opposed to greenish? All the pics on line look awesome, but then I came across this one: http://topangacreekbicycles.com/blog...-1024x1024.jpg

    And that might be too green for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyriverag View Post
    So it's more aqua or minty, as opposed to greenish? All the pics on line look awesome, but then I came across this one: http://topangacreekbicycles.com/blog...-1024x1024.jpg

    And that might be too green for me.
    Yeah... that picture isn't very representative I'd say... lighting is weird. It's a softer green, more like my pictures... in most light at least.

    I'd say the first two pictures I posted are closest. One is kind of how it looks in low light, the other in sunlight. The bottom two look a little over-exposed, but up real close, it does look more whiteish... a trick of the eye I suppose.
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    Cool, thank you for the color commentary (lol!). I'd prefer it to look like your pics, or this one: http://surlybikes.com//uploads/blog/Wood_12.png
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    Picked up my Karate Monkey on Friday and I love it. Really fun bike.
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    my monkey after winning my first race where i not only won my age group(50+) but beat all the youngsters as well! i hope it didnt sting too much to get beaten by an old guy on a steel single speed glommed up with hello kitty stuff...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyriverag View Post
    Picked up my Karate Monkey on Friday and I love it. Really fun bike.
    Was the color what you were hoping for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by l'oiseau View Post
    Was the color what you were hoping for?
    Yeah, the pictures really don't do it justice at all. I tried to upload one here, but it wouldn't go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyriverag View Post
    Picked up my Karate Monkey on Friday and I love it. Really fun bike.
    I saw it in person...it is pretty sweet

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    one from the weekend, light and fast

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    My KM Build

    Didn't realize there was a club. This is my favorite bike.

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    I went with Sram X-9 and Sun Ringle/XT wheels, 36 spoke for loaded touring. Had a blast bikepacking with it up in NH. Can't wait to try bikepacking with a bit less weight (my girlfriend came too, and she hasn't got room in the frame for a framepack).

    It's just such a fun bike. Whippy and fun, like a big BMX bike. I'm building up new wheels this season to cut a bunch of weight, and I think I will probably go with wider rims so I can play around with a 3-inch tire in the front.

    I know the rack looks high, but it was rock-solid under load. I sat in the aerobars for some harrowing descents up by Mt. Grace and Keane, and felt completely safe even without a brake nearby.

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    This is mine

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    This is my KM

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    KM fat tire roadbike

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    Nice bike, very similar to how I run mine, two modes, both with drop bars. I love the fat tire road bike. Recently I bypassed a group of slow movers by dropping off the path and ridding along a grassy, sloped ridge. My 60mm Big Apple tires held fast without digging in! I also love how they smooth out the ride on rough surfaces (which in reality is roads/paths).

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    Quote Originally Posted by irvin_steinert View Post
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    Nice bike, very similar to how I run mine, two modes, both with drop bars. I love the fat tire road bike. Recently I bypassed a group of slow movers by dropping off the path and ridding along a grassy, sloped ridge. My 60mm Big Apple tires held fast without digging in! I also love how they smooth out the ride on rough surfaces (which in reality is roads/paths).
    In my road version there aren't mounted big apple but marathon supreme 2.0.
    Next tires will are the big apple too.

    What about your rims inner weight.
    Mine are 19mm, do you think are they good for 2.35 big apple or it is better wider rims?

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    Quote Originally Posted by irvin_steinert View Post
    @ciux
    Nice bike, very similar to how I run mine, two modes, both with drop bars. I love the fat tire road bike. Recently I bypassed a group of slow movers by dropping off the path and ridding along a grassy, sloped ridge. My 60mm Big Apple tires held fast without digging in! I also love how they smooth out the ride on rough surfaces (which in reality is roads/paths).
    In my road version the KM mounts 2.0 marathon supreme, I think next tires will are big apple too.

    What about your rims inner width?
    Mine are 19mm. Do you think it's enough to mount the 2.35 big apple or it's better wider rims?

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    Here's my KM, wasn't sure about the red accents (from my old build) and mint green, but it's growing on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciux View Post
    In my road version the KM mounts 2.0 marathon supreme, I think next tires will are big apple too.

    What about your rims inner width?
    Mine are 19mm. Do you think it's enough to mount the 2.35 big apple or it's better wider rims?
    My wheels are Vuelta Nine so probably similar to 19 inner width. I will say they do "balloon out" from the rim almost surprisingly so.

    I think you made a good choice with the Marathon Supremes and I was tempted to go that way but their cost was almost double and I just wanted to try the fattest tire I could. I have some Supremes on my 26er townie that I once used on a MTB/commuter and I've always loved them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeskej View Post
    Here's my KM, wasn't sure about the red accents (from my old build) and mint green, but it's growing on me.

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    Looks good to me!

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    Just for sh!ts n' giggles I through a RH/Knard into my KM to see what it was all about...and it was all about that "I had way too many cookies @ xmas and cannot fit into my old jeans" vibe.

    No way this would evar fit...NEVER!

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    after trying a set of continental mountain king 2.4's and discovering the rear tire rubbed on the 19 tooth gear of the dos enos i went back to the maxxis ardent 2.4 and since i recently put a dirt wizard rear/knard front combo on the krampus i had a chronicle in pretty good shape so i slapped that on the front...

    running a blackspire 32t chainring with a white industries dos enos 17/19 and the ardent/chronicle combo of velocity blunt 35's...
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    really liking the new dos enos 17/19,previously had a dos enos 20/22 but i had stopped using the 22 tooth and the 20 tooth while fine on the trails was maddeningly slow on the road...the 17 tooth is just about perfect for the commute to the trails,except on longer hills of course,and the 19 is just that little bit faster on the trails...already set a dozen personal records on the trails and a nasty road climb...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    after trying a set of continental mountain king 2.4's and discovering the rear tire rubbed on the 19 tooth gear of the dos enos i went back to the maxxis ardent 2.4 and since i recently put a dirt wizard rear/knard front combo on the krampus i had a chronicle in pretty good shape so i slapped that on the front...

    running a blackspire 32t chainring with a white industries dos enos 17/19 and the ardent/chronicle combo of velocity blunt 35's...

    really liking the new dos enos 17/19,previously had a dos enos 20/22 but i had stopped using the 22 tooth and the 20 tooth while fine on the trails was maddeningly slow on the road...the 17 tooth is just about perfect for the commute to the trails,except on longer hills of course,and the 19 is just that little bit faster on the trails...already set a dozen personal records on the trails and a nasty road climb...
    I had the Ardent 2.4/Blunt 35 combo in the past. Very nice, but also heavy for me. You're a monster for pushing that around. I'm back to Crest and Ikon 2.35's.

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    i admit the 17 tooth gear is still kicking my ass on the hills...but sadly the karate monkey even set up like this is still my lightest bike...not sad really,since its a badass piece of steel...and worth it for me to drag around that big front tire since my 50 year old bones arent too fond of the abuse of riding full rigid bikes some days...and i admit theres a certain satisfaction to grabbing strava top 10s when you know the other people on the list are on full squish carbon fiber for the most part...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    after trying a set of continental mountain king 2.4's and discovering the rear tire rubbed on the 19 tooth gear of the dos enos i went back to the maxxis ardent 2.4 and since i recently put a dirt wizard rear/knard front combo on the krampus i had a chronicle in pretty good shape so i slapped that on the front...

    running a blackspire 32t chainring with a white industries dos enos 17/19 and the ardent/chronicle combo of velocity blunt 35's...
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    really liking the new dos enos 17/19,previously had a dos enos 20/22 but i had stopped using the 22 tooth and the 20 tooth while fine on the trails was maddeningly slow on the road...the 17 tooth is just about perfect for the commute to the trails,except on longer hills of course,and the 19 is just that little bit faster on the trails...already set a dozen personal records on the trails and a nasty road climb...
    I think you just sold me on the 17/19 dos eno for my Ogre. Also 32 in front.

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    yeah,the white industries stuff is really well made,used the 20/22 for over a year and never a problem...
    in this particular setup the bike comp,which doesnt have a setting for a 29er+ tire so take it with a grain of salt,says im going 16.4 mph pedaling at a sane cadence on the road,so its made the commute to the trails much less an exercise in coasting.i am spending more time climbing out of the saddle,but a few more weeks to get used to the gear and i should hopefully be more able to keep it spinning...

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    Single speeds really shouldn't even have saddles. Matterhorn's No Seat. From the makers of No Post, No Clamp, and No Suspension. Not affiliated with Stan.

    Don't argue cause it is lighter and better.

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    what? the rock hard skinny racing saddle not uncomfortable enough?should i maybe drive some cactus spines through it and wear a hair shirt while i ride? lol

    you would have been happy watching me climb sol canyon road last week,i never sat down for more than a few seconds once i got past the water tank,that 17 tooth had me grunting by the last 100 feet of climbing...

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    with the 17/19 Dos Eno, do you have to adjust your brake caliper when you switch?

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    nope,when i installed it i did just to find the middle ground for both wheel positions,but otherwise theres no adjustment to make when i switch gears...i mean aside from using the tugnut to adjust the chain tension...and i took one link pair out of the chain,and that has been sort of a pain since the tugnut i generally need to swap which hole the axle is running through when i change gears,but with this setup for some reason,no doubt something about the mysteries of single speed gear ratios,the tugnut is maxed out almost in its adjustment range,i think with a 33 tooth up front that wouldnt be true,but at that point i think a 32 up front and a dos enos 16/18 would be slightly easier to keep spinning...

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