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    its a Pug's life

    so they say nothing but rain, rain, rain. well, i think its great. to top it off, it aint even cold. temps seem to be hovering around 60F.
    the bead on one of the Endo's started to tear away from the casing so i had to replace it. i was amazed to see the difference between a new tyre and the old one. The Pug has been in almost constant service since Oct, and the tyres show the milage.
    i took off the rack and panniers, cleaned up the Pug, took off for the day to run around town, do errands, get Mexi food, etc.
    it aint single track, save for tmrrw or so, but instead its the commuter life in the drizzle. Splashing gutters, bunny hop curbs, get coffee, messanger bag, with laptop. How yuppie could it get?
    aint got to count calories, watch diet, measure anything, just ride, hang out, and ride some more.
    let it rain.

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    ... and if we just ... Right on!!

    Thanks for posting this here. Keep the updates rolling!

    Also, shoot some pics of the old vs. new tire, I'm curious how well they wear out.
    ~Especially under your kind of daily use.

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    The endos look like they wear out quickly due to the lack of a tread. I have kept my endos as a snow only tire. I'm still using my pugs year round, but once the snow melted, I switched to some DH tires. I have some Kenda 2.7s that I'm running. Interestingly enough, the bead isn't quite wide enough for the rim, so the tire has a slight gap between the rim and the bead. I hope it will stretch a little bit to fit in there, but I'm not too worried.

    If you do this, I would recommend the Nokian Gazzaloddi 3.0 tire. I'm a little concerned that the 2.7 tire isn't quite large enough. Right now the rim and the inflated tire are the same width and I worry about damaging the rim by hitting a rock or other trail obstacle.

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    pug's life

    i was talking with a buddy, and we think the pugz got about 3K miles on it by now. its been my daily bike since Oct.
    the tyre in question wasnt all that trashed. the issue was that bead started to seperate, and that worried me.
    when the PSI is low, it seems the tyre wears faster.
    if there were a "wish" i suppose it would be a lighter tube/tyre combo. but then again.
    its a PUG.
    thats how it is.
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    some pics

    local scene
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    more pug pics

    sunny cali what can i say. it aint snow, it aint goin somewhere far away. instead its every day, and this is my locale.
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    2xNice Rack 1xMod Hack

    So i finally got that front rack mounted up. I copied the mod from the thread listed below:
    Kuskokwim River - Kombat Phatbike

    All in all, it seems really strong and it really wasnt that much of a project. I sat and pondered keeping more of the rack intact, but ultimately decided to hack it complete as per the above mentioned thread. In reality, the "rear" section of the Surly rear Nice Rack that i removed could have remained intact. No issues with wheel clearance. I just like the way it looks with the complete hack job. (oh the vanity)
    The panniers were able to be mated up, and now it seems like the Pug should be primed for dayz on the ramble.
    Maybe I'll get the rear pannier set, but 1st im gonna see what this set up is like.
    After almost 9months the Pug is now outfitted.
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    Can anyone speak to the benefits of running geared on a pugs as oppossed to a single speed? Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddk
    Can anyone speak to the benefits of running geared on a pugs as oppossed to a single speed? Thank you.
    I ride up and down the coast here on the beach and a single speed would be pretty much unrideable in the deep sand.

    Some days there is a 20 knot wind in your face in one direction; combined with the deep sand, you are forced into a 22x30 to make forward motion. On the way back with the wind behind you, a 32x15 is usually about right.

    Maybe for trail riding or just bumming around, a single speed would be OK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toddk
    Can anyone speak to the benefits of running geared on a pugs as oppossed to a single speed? Thank you.
    Gears give a wider range of gear inches. So you can crawl, or go fast.
    For me...every day I'm running it with a 44x12T and often have wished to use a compact road crank with a 34x50T combined with a 32x11t cogset.
    In the winter around here, i found the Pug to totally haul ass on wet pave with all the pine needles, debris etc. I was running it without the racks, and panniers. With the rear tyre pumped up around 20psi(ish) and the front a bit below 15psi(ish) i found i can push the descents faster than i have on anyother bike. Plus it transitions into the dirt really well. Which is a unique niche that it fills.
    For quite some time i had been taking it out weekly on group road rides too. Taking a pull at the front of a group, you simply need the gear to go fast enough.

    On the other side of the coin, I'm using the racks these days, got the panniers mounted up, and have been riding by myself. Having the low gears to crawl along with the load, and going in places that typically a bicycle wouldnt venture...well...having the granny gear is pretty damn nice.
    Today i was doing a little bit of exploring b4 work, got the panniers loaded, nothing on the decks on the racks yet, lowered the psi, and crawled around some. The combo of the Thudbuster seatpost, all the weight (yes! a Pug starts puttin on the weight! I think mine is 38lbs w/o racks), the lower psi, big disc brakes, and a firm hand at the bars...well...its a unique experience. Im still always amazed at what i can ride up, over, down, etc. Those big tyres, not only wide, but the outside diameter = foot print, they really make for remarkable capability. Today i traversed a section of fireroad, with a huge rut at the shoulder and simply rode over it, lofted the front wheel (with rack and panniers) up a 2ft+(ish) ledge to access a dear track that lead into a forested area. did a small loop thru the area, and exited in the same area.

    I havent used my Pug as a SS yet. Of course i have a couple of SS bikes too. The thing i could see would be good with the Pug is obvisoulsy to use 2 different size cogs. One on each wheel right? Make sure the rotors are the same size, or simply use cantis.
    As a SS i think the Pug would be awesome. Its just that in this configuration, its intended application would be more specific, its range of use more limited.
    With gears the Pug can be more effectively used in a wider range of conditions.
    A SS Pug would be great for the snow, wet conditions, or maybe a commited sand bike. Very unique for sure.
    I also think it would make for a pimp townie bike as SS.
    obviously SS makes for less maitenance and there is something smooth and magical about having that perfectly straight chain line, no pullys to spin round and round.

    rain and mud are the worst my Pug sees. Im on the beach some too, and i kind of cringe at the thought of saltwater washing over all the bling (KC hubs, etc) so i try to treat it nice when its at the beach.
    with that said...
    recently i rode sand with the rear rack and panniers. I managed to stand up a couple of times and use the big ring, but for the most part, im running 32x32t, or dropping into the granny (22t, i think) and dropping down a 2 or 3 cogs. Sand seems to necesitate that grannygear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddk
    Can anyone speak to the benefits of running geared on a pugs as oppossed to a single speed? Thank you.
    Mine is set up as a "dinglespeed" (2 chainrings and 2 sprockets) as it's mostly used on the local beaches and I wanted something that was simple, light(er!) and easy to wash the sand off. I got Surly stainless steel chainrings and their steel sprockets on a PlanetX single-speed freehub that will take 2-3 splined sprockets, not a freewheel. The other wheel has a Surly hub with a freewheel.
    The sram PC58 8-speed chain has a link you can break without a tool, so I take the chain off and clean it in turps and re-oil every few sand rides. A five minute job.

    I use 32\20T most of the time which is perfect for deep sand and on singletrack I can keep up with geared bikes but on faster stuff like gravel fireroads (or on the road) it's way undergeared.

    I am getting a rack and panniers shortly and it may be a bit of a struggle pushing more weight with one gear but you can always get a twin ratio freewheel or swap wheels (lower ratio freewheel on front wheel).

    My Pugs is for cruising around and exploring, and I'm loving it. I am seldom in a hurry.

    If you want to go fast, or ride a lot in the hills, go geared.

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    Pug takes R&R

    The Pug has been put aside for awhile to make way for an Xtracycle. What! True.
    For the last month or so, the Pug has been just sitting around, while i've been putting an Xtra thru the paces of daily life.
    My conversion of choice is my 2000 Cdale F900.
    Added 203mm rotors front and rear, and a set of Mavic Speedcitys with a Kenda 35c CX tyres.

    The thing with the Xtra is that is has MEGA-VOLUME, and can carry a passanger. In fact it has so much capacity to cary stuff, it hauls a BOB with ease! However the thing that i dont like about it is...its almost impossible to bunny hop, do a wheelie, or simply loft the front wheel to get over a curb. Slow speeds, its "mostly" possible, but really when it comes down to it, at speed running around town, etc, getting over a curb is a hazard. I was really surprised to find how much i unweight the front wheel in daily life.

    so for now the Pug sits. Maybe I'll get another set of panniers for it. I've been thinking about getting a rear set (about 900cu inches more).

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    lifting front wheel on xtracycle

    lifting the front wheel up stuff on an xtracycle is sort-of like doing a bunnyhop on a 'normal sized' bike, the length of the bike just keeps the back wheel on the ground,
    to bunny hop the xtracycle you have to really lean into it

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    my website

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    Good job!

    If you have yet to forward this to the Surly Crew, I am right now...nice vid!!

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    thanks...you know, i didnt even think of it.
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    well, i couldn't stand it another moment. Being that i rent a loft, i basically live with my bikes. Every day i look over to see the Pug just sittin, and i say to myself, "i should ride the pug today." but somehow, i'm grabing a different bike.
    today was the day.
    then i asked myself..."why do i ride anything else?" Oh so nice to be back on the big-ol-Pug. Complete pannier set, i took my iBook into work and i reflect how incredibly yuppie i've become. Next i'll be ditching the Suunto on the bar for a Panerai. Oh god! (thats just too rediculous. i have limits)
    its obvious why i switch out bikes. I've come to learn that its nice to keep things fresh. For about a week i was riding around on my Salsa Moto Rapido with crossmax, etc. and what an incredibly fast thing that bike is. Oh and last week i even took out my Fondriest complete with Zipps. Now that thing is stupid fast!
    at anyrate...im glad to be back on the pug.

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    on the way to work today, i ride thru the forest, and come across some guys working, and they just kind of frown (well that was the tone in their voices) at me, i stop use my typical "friendly/concerned guy, asset to the community" approach. Lately there has a been a small arson spree going on. so i guess anyone is suspect. I had to laff to myself as i was reading into their body language, that at any moment i was subject to an anti-bike spew. However the crew started to comment on the Pug, the racks, the panniers, the big-ol-tyres, and its obvious that i aint out to build a trails course, go North Shore style hucking, bomb DH style, but rather i was simply going to work. What finished off the "friendly guy on a eco-friendly bike" was when i told them..."in the winter, when im running the psi way down, its footprint on the ground is lighter than a boot print." When one of the older guys chimes in sayin, "ya...I've seen those tracks, and i was wonderin what it was." So i asked him of his opinion of the impact. Basically this guy was sayin that he noticed that it was helping smooth things.
    Now there is this section that i typically ride, and its really a mix of sand and clay. Horses use this area a bunch and once its muddy, it gets all chopped up. I roll the Pug over this slippery mess and i try to take a bit of a different line every day, with smoothing out this double track/small fireroad in mind.
    so today i manage to escape an anti-bike campain and in fact...it was an upshot for those of us on 2 wheels. Albiet it helps to volutarily produce I.D., express interest/concern for our local environ, etc.
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    its a Pug's life for sure...

    the one thing that never seems to fade away, are the moments when im on my bike. somehow, just pedaling, the breath in rhythm, and my body just does its thing. my mind is empty, my brain is empty, and i just do what is natural. gently lift the front wheel over some roots, bunny hop a rut, shift, brake, pedal, pull on the bars, and the world just passes by.
    More times that i can recollect, the hours, the miles, the days, the weeks, yes...the years...have passed by under those pedals. when i get to work, or get home, i always lafff to myself when i “click” back to the “prescribed reality”. As if I were transported, one moment i was “not on the bike”, then i was on the bike, and again...back to “not on the bike”. the in between, sure i go thru a process where i download and process my thoughts, but its pretty quick, and then there is simply nothing. Just my natural mind.
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    Pug and Ferraris

    It was Concours weekend here in Monterey. Friday night after work I rolled thru downtown, rode around a bit, watched the cars rolling by at midnight going up for auction. the peeps equally entertaining, a woman in a cling tight black and white stripped short dress, heals, i assume breast implants, as the guys flock all around her. I couldn’t figure out what car she was associated with or what her deal was. she’d hold onto the arm of an older gentleman, then he’d grow tired of her, she’d drift less than 20ft away and flirt with the younger gentlemen.
    the smell of alcohol in the air, cigars, men stumbling around with their women in arm, as they basically escort/guide the men along, all done in short skirts/dresses and heals. I have to admire the social skill and physical agility of these women.
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    [QUOTE=SelfPropelledDevo]It was Concours weekend here in Monterey. QUOTE]

    Dude, that is one of the best pictures I have seen. Makes me laugh. I like to laugh.

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    encouragement? i couldnt help myself...
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    media....

    media....cool....
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    Pug Asana

    today’s commute to work totaled about 3hrs of ride time. I can get to work in about 20 minutes if i have to, but what fun is that? so today, it was out to send more bike parts off. thank you eBay! I am starting to experience a catharsis as all my old stuff ships off into...the wild blue yander. why do i grasp to all this junk i have laying around? ego and desire of course. my mind has been crazy, obsessed with buying stuff, this and that, all the bike parts laying around. How many tyres do i have? Oh my god! a life time supply. And i just rent a loft with a meager storage area. I can only imagine how i’d be with a house, a garage, etc. pure insanity for sure. the only rationale i can come up with is that its a mechanism developed from the days when my life was unstable. the days of life with Dad in the van living on Rincon, those days in the Army, etc. unstable, and to make up for it, i’ve pack ratted stuff away. well...I’m over it!
    ya over it! like im over feeling like i had to prove something to myself. the years of racing, chasing some crazy elusive goal. as if i were still in the Army, and having done my missions in Panama wasn’t enough. As if racing 24hr solo wasn’t enough. Well it was! enough. nothing to prove. the center of my universe is the bottom bracket. we know this. that is THE primary root of Asana.
    The Pug Asana is to listen to your body and mind. its heft automatically tells you when you are working too hard. Fatigue comes on much faster. the unlimited possibilities of places to ride, opens the mind. As long as you throttle down, take it a little bit easier, and enjoy things, life on the pug is for the long haul and nothing seems to phase this method. Pug Asana is supreme. Only having 1 small water bottle of just water, and an empty stomach, 3hrs on the Pug going all over paradise, produced a nice sublime post ride euphoria. needles to say work was a breeze.
    today i rode a section of beach that i had never thought about. my commute route took me on and of pave, thru the forest, and up and up and up, until i got to work just in the nick of time to change and clock in exactly on time. It couldn’t have been any better. PERFECT.

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    Pug Sur

    Pug goes south...
    i just got back from a little 3 day trip with the Pug, when i got home, it weighs 86lbs. thats minus 3 days of rations. The Pug goes like nothing i've ever owned before. Stream crossing? no problem. it goes anywhere a person has the strenght to motor it. My second day i rode from 9am to 7pm, and that was with the psi way down, as i was mostly in the dirt, with only a bit of pave upon arrival to my last camping spot of the day.

    enjoy the pics.........
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    Pug skill...

    Its been almost a full year now that i've been on the Pug. In a simple word, "Amazing". it took a few months to get the front rack situation squared away. that is...what rack to use, how to modify it, what panniers to mount, etc.

    this 3 day trip i just took was really the maiden trip for its ultimate intentions. that being...the uber hobo-mobile/dharma bum life.

    obviously the major factor are the tyres. when pumped up at 30psi and hauling all of 90lbs(ish) on the road it rolls amazingly well. or maybe its just that i've become amazingly accoustomed to the Pug. its taken a year to work up to it, and i dont consider myself a total wuss or a total jock either. i've raced some 24hr solo races, placed 4th a couple of times, im a Army vet, combat vet, Jungle School, Air Assualt, etc etc. blah blah blah. I've done a bunch of road stuff too, a few double centuries, crits, etc. Ok...so im sayin im familiar with bikes. and the Pug has taken me about a year to settle into. A courtship of unique proportions, for sure!

    back to the tyres. with my weight 180lbs + 90lbs(ish) of bike = 270(ish) goin down the road, the fire road, beach, trail, single track, stream crossings, or simply making way to new territory. The key really is the psi. and even at 90lbs of bike amazingly i am able to loft the front wheel to get up onto/over things like small logs, ledges, and to traverse strange rut formations.

    With all the weight comes MOMEMTUM! ya...with that said...you also have to really watch what you are doing. on the pave @ almost 300lbs its easy to get going 40mph and that my friends, you really need to be cognitive of exactly what you are doing. Are you going to bunny hop a 90lb bike? uhhh....probably not. so beware. special attention to the BRAKES. at this point its really appropriate to bring on board all those motorcycle defensive riding skills.

    At one point i did a descent that totalled to about 1000ft. my Suunto said i was descending at a rate of 20-60ft/min. Im using Avid mech discs with a 203mm polygon rotor up front, and a 185mm rotor in the rear, laced up to CK 36H 4cross wheels with brass nipples. I've never once questioned the strength of the wheels. the brake pads, Im using EBC Gold pads. At the bottom of the descent i could feel the heat coming off of the rotors. thats not reaching down to find the heat. That was coming to a stop and just noticing the heat pouring up. the fork was warm, as was the frame at the rear wheel.

    On another note, the famous "Pugsley crawl" with that same weight is a huge amount of energy. Well...huge in the world of bicycles. witht that much momentum things that typically stop a traditional bicycle, the Pug with its squishy tyres, just rolls over. so things like miles of wild beach, with rocks the size of cantelope, softballs, babyheads, whatever you call them, with slick mossy stuff, and of course sand all around, the Pug has this dispostion you soon learn. That is...constant even power input, and basically point and shoot. Running both brakes in conjunction with pedaling provides added feedback to the rider. That is...you'd be surprised how practical it is to "bunch the bike up" and make it dig in, or preload it for mini launches up/over/thru stuff. Another added method is to "studder" skid the rear tyre, while pedaling, to feel exactly how much "studder" you are using when making turns on those slippery rocks. a low tech kind of anti lock braking. all of this im sure is standard operating procedure for those in the rock crawling world of 4WD.

    while my bike weighed in at a whooping 90lbs, its only 90lbs. that is...in the world of "bike handling skills" its not like tryn to wrastle a motorbike. Not that i've ever had the experience of dumping a BMW GS in a creekbed, sometimes i have those notions of that new yuppie $23k GS1200 Adventure. the pug's big brother, i guess. it all a mater of perspective. you'd be wise to keep a firm grip on the bars, and to keep strong thru the rough stuff.

    At times i've actually entertained the notion of a steering dampner. what? i think its just a bit too much, but maybe not. im sure someone out there in the world would want one on their Pug. Instead I've opted for a new Soma Morning Rush coffee cup holder! stainless steel, thermally insulated, with a cool clicky lid to boot.

    If i were totaly onboard with the Pug methodology I'd put a set of Jones H-bars on it. But i've grown so fond of my 06' Sram trigger shifters that i bawk when i read on the Jones website that they do not recomend using "trigger shifters". So for now, I've got a pair of Cane Creek Ergo Control II Bar Ends sitting aside this laptop to mount to my Pug which will compliment the Thudbuster. thudbuster on a Pug?

    uuhhhh....ya...a Thudbuster! As if the tyres werent cush enough? well....uhhh...no. lol
    the gig is with the Thudbuster is that it gives you the ability to be on the bike all day. and i do mean all day. I first fell in love this funny seatpost racing 24hr solo. what a god send! contrary to other suspension seatposts, the thudbuster doesnt change your leg length. the motion is a rearward and then down motion. someone has definately done their homework when this product was designed. To the crew at Cane Creek, a big thanks!

    On the practicle note, a little tip with a bicycle of this size and the use of Avid mech discs, i've grown into the practice of simply closing the calipers via the red dial adjusters when I get off the bike. This stabalizes the bike. it prevents it from rolling off that tree you just leaned it against, it deters bike theives, annoys your friends, and steadies the bike while loading the panniers, rack et al.

    all in all...the Pug is one heck of a companion. Companion? can that term be applied to inanimate objects? well...in my confused world, im giving it a go.

    The Pug compared to the Xtracycle...well...the Xtra is good for hauling those strange large volume loads, like a mini fridge, ladder, R/C gliders, case of sodas (not that i do that too often, thank god) and i love not having to fuss with bucking and zipping panniers all the time. But my vote goes to the Pug by default of its versatility in terrain. Just the simple fact of not being able to wheelie the Xtra up over a curb annoys me. will i give up my Xtra? No way. Is it sitting? Yup. As i mentioned it has its uses.

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    stipped down, run around town

    I've been back in town, doing my regular work routine. the other day i took the racks and panniers off the Pug, swapped out the bar ends for some Can Creek ones, and the Thudbuster keeps developing a really anoying creak, so i took it off. replaced it with on of the mega-bike-parts stuff layin around, flite saddle and Salsa Shaft seatpost.
    Pumped up the tyres to 30psi, and now im jaming around town, down hills, just plain-ol-haulin a$$ around. crazy fun. back to life living out of my Chrome Kremlin messenger bag.
    funny how that is, one day im all stoked to have gucci saddle bags, the next glad to have the Kremlin. im just glad to keep it fresh. it never really seems to get old.
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    What happened to the Thudbuster?
    Love that bike, can't wait to get one some day...

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    the thudbuster keeps developing an annoying creak/squeak about every week. I take it apart, grease things up, and as weird as it sounds, Phil Wood Tenacious oil works best to rid the noise, but it comes back in about a week. so for now, im too lazy to deal with it. Cane creek crew told me to use some white grease. I've been using it for about a year solid now, and i've taken it apart 2 or 3 times in the last couple of months. it never made noise before.
    i have an older version of the seatpost on another bike, and i spent 1.5yrs playing hobo joe on it, and it never gave me a problem, so when i built the Pug i put on the new version.
    im sure i just need to mess with it.
    just too lazy at this point.
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    Awesome...Devo, suggestion!

    The rig is look'in great...and looks at though you're' putting her through her paces...nice!

    I'm off on an ocean tour de'Pug myself soon and will postup soon!

    IMHO - you need a frame-bag for Miss Pugs...its the ideal way to center your heavier weight / items and improves the overall ride and touring perfomance. Take some center-load off the wheels mate.

    Check out Wildfire's bags...standard issue in Alaska:

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    Quote Originally Posted by SelfPropelledDevo
    Pug goes south...
    i just got back from a little 3 day trip with the Pug, when i got home, it weighs 86lbs. thats minus 3 days of rations. The Pug goes like nothing i've ever owned before. Stream crossing? no problem. it goes anywhere a person has the strenght to motor it. My second day i rode from 9am to 7pm, and that was with the psi way down, as i was mostly in the dirt, with only a bit of pave upon arrival to my last camping spot of the day.

    enjoy the pics.........
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    you are right. I've been thinking about the frame bag gig. But i actually use my water bottles too. typically when i ride out of town, i 4xstrenght powder Gatorade in the bottles, which lasts be about 3 days, then i just add water when needed. So my camelbak, i just fill with filtered water from the MSR pump. I take a sip of 4xGatorade, and a slug of water from the camelbak.
    of course there is the typical usage of the H20 bladder around the camp site to make food, tea, etc.
    but what i really want to get for the winter, is one of those handlebar mits. Where do i get that?! I'd love to have one for the winter. Here in Monterey, on occasion it will get below 40F, some hail, but mostly just cold rain. I've got plenty of jackets, etc, but what i really battle is keeping my hands and feet warm.
    the feet thing, i typically end up going thru 2 sets of booties thru the winter, but i plan on using an old Endomorph, cut the tread out, and sew it to the bottom of a set of Kuchirik(sp) booties.
    basically my feet always get wet, but the booties always seem to keep the heat in. Feet may be wet, but they are still warm.
    Hands...well, that is a different story. They get wet, then they get cold. in driving rain, my rides are seriously limited, and as the nature of weather patterns go, it rains, then clears up.
    so i think a handlebar mit would extend the duration i can spend out of doors, cuz of course, i'd rather not be indoors.
    thanks for the input.
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    Pacific Grove to New Brighton State Beach, up and around Forest of Niessene Marks

    my computer crashed as soon as i got home, so its been awhile since i've been able to fully interact with the internet.

    about 2 weeks ago i took the Pug north. The route was from my house here in Pacific Grove, Ca to Santa Cruz(ish) on the beach as much as i felt.

    The Pug was loaded up with its typical 3 to 4 days worth of rations, a solo tent, sandals, water filter, etc. Im still pretty spoiled, so i have a tendancy to take things like avocados, bannana, cheese, etc. when all is said and done the Pug comes in around 80 to 90lbs.

    by 730a i was out of the house and heading down the bike path. a totally grey morning, a bit fog drizzle, nothing exciting.

    at first sign of beach, i couldnt resist so it was with the psi dropped down along the sand i went. this morning there were a bunch of dolphins feeding on fish just past the swell. it made my first few moments entertaining.

    However once I got past Marina it was totally different story. the beach is pretty steep at points, the surf just crashes in your ear, the shore is so desolate, isolated, it where as if chronic depression. the visability was about 100ft and the sensation was strange. that is...after awhile of churning the pedals in that environ it kind of brings you down. Once i got to Moss Landing I was glad to exit the beach, find the pave and head away from that salty drizzle.

    I had left with 1 full large water bottle with Gatorade, and my Camelbak full. By the time i had got to the Pajaro river i was just about out of water, so i decided to filter water. Uhhh...not such a good idea. The MSR filter takes out the particulate matter, and i believe it to filter all the way down to .22Micron, but it wont filter out what is already disolved. The Pajro river goes thru ag fields, and my palate told me that the water seemed "salty". i only took a couple of sips, and dumped it along the way. Who's to say what kind of fertilizers, etc are in that river. so it was a learning experience, and a sad one at that. Sad to come face to face with the byproduct of humanity. (sigh)

    Once i had got to Sunset Beach i was more than happy to find fresh, clean, drinkable water. The weather had shifted, the sun was out, and i was peeling off the clothing, enjoying the sun, a light lunch, and some coffee.

    next it was to the beach and to explore the area a bit. this section of Monterey Bay is by far the best beach. its firm,flat, and sunny. almost like a hwy. at times i was able to run the big ring and just motor along. I'd stop myself to enjoy the experience.

    after quite sometime making my way north, i actually ended up as far as i could go, which was New Brighton State Beach. Once i got to camp, the day was a total of 10hrs.
    showers are 25cents for 2min.

    the next morning i went back down to the beach, rode back south a bit, to Rio Del Mar,where i made my way to the Forest of Niessen Marks. I made my way up hill til 2650ft (well that is what my Suunto read) when i was down to 1/2 water bottle again, no known water around,and the fireroad started downhill. I decided to retrace my route and think of New Brighton again.
    Intitially i had thoughts of camping at West Ridge campground, but when i had found the sight, it was full of flies and mosquitos. I cant stand that. so i was happy to get away.
    finally i had made my way back down to the Aptos creek, where i could filter water, and now with peace of mind, make my way back into and thru the world of townies.
    at the parking lot at the entrance to Niessen Marks, i chit chat with some peeps hanging around on their typically super nice XC bikes, CX, etc, and i think their reactions to the Pug,my ride, etc, was more entertaining to me, than i was to them. mostly they'd just sit, and like....uhhh.....duhhh....uhhh....you mean....uhhhh.....you rode....uhhh....from....where? Monterey??? on the beach??? uhhh....like dude....how much does that thing weigh??? uhhhh....you rode up to where??? uhhh....ummm....wow!

    by 7pm i was back on the beach and very close to New Brighton, where i'd stay for 1 more night. The Pug had been along the beach, and up into/thru the redwoods, fireroads, etc, of course all the while being completely self-supported. this day was 8hrs of effort.

    as i sat in meditation thru most of the night, around 3 to 5am or so, a large group of hobo's had gathered where i sat and watched them do their thing. Mostly sit around, chit chat, take showers, smoke, trade, etc. Life of hobos. it was really cool. i enjoyed the fact that i had been sitting long enough without movement that they didnt even realize i was there. at times they'd be about 20ft away as the darkness kept me from their perception as well as their preoccupations kept their minds as such.

    come morning it was time for me to pack up, and head back to Monterey. My route, straight home on the pave. in total. it was 5hrs. at the start around 11a the weather was sunny nice, and almost 80F. Once i got just south of Moss Landing, the marine layer was blowing in, the drizzle setting in, and the temp dropped 20degrees in about 2miles.
    all the way home from Pezzini Farms i kept wondering why i live on this side of the bay. the final miles where not so much demanding, or taxing, but really it was more of an onset of meloncholy. the combination of a perfect few days spent, new territories discovered, new people to chit chat with, a certain degree of being untethered to "the daily grind", with the hard cold factoid of going home. home where i'd shave, and get ready for work.
    when i get home...my computer doesnt work, the HD had crashed, and so it was...
    welcome home...

    peace..........d
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    more pics, not enough space...

    more pics, and not enough space to upload things. hmmm...i wonder how i could actually post text with the pics...you know...more betta format, instead of leaving you guessin when and where pics are takin from.

    however i did put them in chrono order.

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    another pug pic

    i dont know why i like this pic
    maybe its the light or something.
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    How is it riding down the center of the railroad tracks like that?

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    ca-chunk-ca-chunk-ca-chunk
    bump, bump, bumpity, bumpity, bump.
    lots of trash, glass, etc.
    slow goin
    endos with low psi just take it up
    bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce,bounce

    its boring, its weird, its more difficult that it would seem
    lots of trash and debris
    its a trip to basically ride thru people's back yards,
    open doors and windows that peeps dont think other peeps would be around
    hobo-trampin
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    I've thought a lot about buying a pugsley, particularly to use the way you use yours, and the conclusion that I've come to is that to me, these are places that a bicycle doesn't belong.

    Wandering and bicycles are definitely my loves, and I do a fair amount of wandering in the saddle, but terrain like snowy trails, beaches, railroad tracks, etc seem like the domain of snowshoes and a well broken-in pair of boots.

    The pugsley is truly an amazing machine, and there may be one in my future yet...but as of this moment, I feel like having the ability to go EVERYWHERE by bicycle might not be best for me. My crosscheck can cover the miles that my feet can't.

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    very true. and the $$$ i've put into my Pug is pretty crazy. but hands down the thing that it accomplishes, the thing that it shines more so than any other bike, is its dependability, and diversity.
    just last tues day i took it out on a group road ride, as well as last saturday too.

    its not so much "what its intended for" but the fact that it does everything.

    I've been eye balling the new BMW GS1200 Adventure. i think the Pug is to bicycles what that motorbike is to motorcycles.
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    a clean Pug? Garrison duty?

    what?
    yup, after the roadies around here started sayin that i need to wash the Pug, it started me thinking.
    so here it is.
    all clean,
    wow!
    reminds me of a time when i was in Army, we'd be in the field, go all over god's good earth on deployments, and it always amazed me how we'd go to a wash rack, clean up the vehicles and howitzers as to not leave debris and simply look good while in convoy on hardball.
    back in garrison, again with the cleaning, pmcs, everything lined up on their chalk marks in the motorpool, howitzers fresh with breakfree, muzzle plugs, etc.

    a fresh clean drive train, shinny cogs and chain, clean OD green, flat black tyres, everything serviced and operational.

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    I love this thread and how you just ramble on about ramblin'. Good stuff! Although it is entirely unnecessary for my trails, you make a Pug sound downright desireable. Keep it coming.

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    your like kane from kung fu, puggin all over the earth

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    wondering ways

    thanks for the compliments on the ramble.

    the Pug is a very desirable companion. the limiting factor is the rider. The rider's mindset,their psychology, the physical ability follows.

    sometimes i get bummed out when i see all the bikes atop of cars, their riders now drivers, soon to get out, click in and become riders, but of course only in a park. a park authorized, that is approved for their choice form of recreation, which turns to sport, with sporting campaigns, sporting companies, and again...another choice venue. season after season, dollar after dollar do we spend, expend our daily lives grinding away in our office cubicals, or maybe with hammer and nails, or behind some register processing the passers-by. our friends we have friendly competion, our frustrations play out, we vent along the way, the recreation our salvation from the daily grind, a place of sactuary, a place where we get in rythm, as if dust from our wheels, so goes our collective industrialized minds, in a plume, faded away, i was there, am not now,only here, and only here is where its really always been, everything else dust, left to settle...

    On the ramble seems to be my natural spot. A harsh reality is setting into my mind these days, as im finding more and more that there is less and less to ramble around. Often i feel as if a fish kept in a large aquarium, day after day, making my way, gently detered by the invisible barrier of thick acrylic, a metaphysical conundrum for sure, as i make my way hoping to come upon a place to somewhere else. In reality, im only a few days, if that, away, hopefully at times there is peace and quiet, a tranquil moment, when there is not a single man made sound. to sit and dissolve, acutely aware, and yet the common thinking of "I" is gone.

    these are places the Pug can take a person.

    to put mountain bikes/life into perspective, I've come across this little ramble below.
    enjoy

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    __________________________________________________ _______________________
    Gold Rush Bicycling

    Terrence Cole, Professor of History at the University of Alaska Fairbanks, described some early bicyling in Alaska in the following Fairbanks News-Miner article originally published on May 1, 1978.

    "Though some people think of the bicycle as a toy, like a skateboard or a Frisbee, in the 1890s the two-wheeler was the technological wonder of the day.

    In magazines there were serious scientific articles about why bicycles would replace the horse, and miiltary experts like General A. W. Greely, the Arctic explorer for whom Fort Greely is named, thought that in the future, high-speed Army communications would be carried long distances by men on bicycles.

    In Alaska during the gold rush, the people who sold a special model called the "Klondike Bicycle" claimed it was the answer to every miner's prayer. On this wonderful bike each man could carry his necessary 1,000 pounds of supplies 500 miles from the Chilkoot Pass to the goldfields with ease and comfort.

    As one guidebook explained, "The Klondike Bicycle is specially designed to carry freight and is in reality a four-wheeled vehicles and a bicycle combined. It is built very strongly and weighs about 50 pounds. The tires are of solid rubber, one and a half inches in diameter. The frame is ordinary diamond, or steel tubing, built however more for strength than appearance, and wound with rawhide, shrunk on, to enable the miners to handle it with comfort in low temperatures."

    The bicycles had two special 14-inch retractable wheels on which a miner could load a quarter-ton, and "drag it on four-wheels 10 miles or so. Then the rider will fold up the side wheels, ride it back as a bicycle, and bring on the rest of his load."

    There are several amazing accounts of wheelmen riding down the Yukon River or up the Valdez Trail to Fairbanks. Last February, Alaska Magazine ran a story by Max Hirshberg about his bicycle trip down the Yukon in 1900, which he wrote in the late 1950s so his grandchildren would know the true story of his adventure. But he was not the only one who stampeded to Nome in 1900 on a bicycle seat.

    Ed Jesson was hunting caribou near Dawson City in 1900 when he decided to join the rush to Nome. Ed bought a "wheel," as bicycles were generally called then, from a man who had just ridden it in from the coast. When Ed's brother heard the news he couldn't believe it. Ed described what happened in his diary.

    "What the h___ are you going to do the wheel, he asked. Going to Nome, I said. He called Harry Smith and John Nelson, proprietors of the hotel, and some other oldtimers. He said this brother of mine is going to try to go to Nome on a bicycle. He's crazy, they all said. We will have to put him on the woodpile until he comes out of it."

    After practicing for a few days in Dawson and learning to keep his front wheel in a sled track, Ed took off down river. One day the temperature was down to 48 below. His rubber tires were frozen hard and stiff.

    He wrote in his diary, "The oil in the bearings was frozen. I could scarcely ride it and my nose was freezing and I had to hold the handlebars with both hands, not being able to ride yet with one hand and rub my nose with the other."

    All the way down the Yukon people thought Ed was crazy for riding a wheel, especially since he owned a good dog team, but he said he didn't have to cook dog food for the bicycle at night, and on good days he could cover 100 miles.

    Many of the old-timer miners and Indians on the Yukon had never seen a bicycle before, and Ed was always showing how it worked.

    After more than a month on the trail, Ed pulled into Nome, and except for the bruises he had from constantly falling down, he and the bike were in good shape."

    © Terrence Cole
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    those are wondering ways!

    today we'd make an event out of it.
    get the permits
    apply a fee
    get a clock
    make it sport
    stand on a podium

    and what does this do?
    removes us from the experience
    it takes us "away" from that which it really is.
    in the natural world are no clocks
    no fees
    and no podium

    we here in the social world would think..."but what of the glamour?"
    and
    "why would you ever want to do that?"

    lol

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    i guess its been a week now that I've been on some new Ritchey V4 Comp MTN pedals. they were $38/pr at Cambria Bike, so i got 2 sets.
    On the Pug every day, i've come to very much like them. My 6yo pair of ATAC's now tossed in a box that i cant find.
    their black finish fits well on the Pug.

    cool....new pedals...
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    Pugs on the Kuskokwim...movie

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    that is so cool. sometimes i think i need to leave Cali
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    clean and resting

    the weather here in Pacific Grove/Monterey is holding with sunshine, a nice cool seabreeze, and i think the coldest its been is 52F in the early. I love to sleep with all the windows open, ocean salt makes its way in thru my rental loft, while the barking of sealions echo about.

    the Pug has been cleaned up for about a week or so, its a trip to have it so clean. its road bike clean! its almost counter-existential. along with the trend, I've taken the bar ends off, reducing it to just a plain simple straight bar. the bar ends found their way onto my Salsa Moto Rapido.

    awhile back I took the advice from the Cane Creek crew, took apart my Thudbuster and re-greased it with white lithium grease. and viola! squeak/creak gone... sometimes i amaze myself with how i can miss a simple solution. duhh...
    so the Salsa is primed with a thudbuster, and comfy barends. The other day i had placed an order with Old Man Mountain for new racks, that are intended for the Salsa. Panniers of course will follow, and the next shot of days off I hope to find myself on the ramble.

    While the Pug will remain at home, all cleaned up, all pretty like, a wallflower, keeping my abode in karmic harmony.
    the next trip i have in mind, i think is a bit much for me and the Pug. No doubt the Pug can make the haul. the question is if i could keep the pedals churning for the distance. A maiden trip, a recon of sorts, i'll take upon Moto Rapido instead. this trip could very well be of the tarp and sleeping bag type.

    as we head into November with the sun shinning thru the windows, ambient temp at 71F, i wonder how fast the frost will come, what this winter will be like, and how much bike camping i can get.
    all in alll, with the less than perfect weather that winter brings, i really enjoy the solitude.
    so for now the Pug sits.
    more stuff has been listed on eBay, and suddenly I start thinking about the Big Dummy.

    eBay has quickly become my friend, all the bike stuff i no longer use, is slowly going out. more and more room is made, and of course my craving mind grasps at ideas of new stuff.
    when i go thru this stuff i've got laying around, and as i clean it up a bit, catagorize the piles, and lay it all out in cognitive linear display, i'm somewhat amazed. like wow!

    so heres the eBay link:
    http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZasanacyclesQQhtZ-1
    take a gander.

    I've got so much stuff layin around, that its difficult for me to not build up a bike. all im missing is a cool rigid fork...then i could build up a swank SS. when you look at the parts listing you can see what im talking about.
    but how many bikes do i need?

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    Good job! Man, I feel you...

    Quote Originally Posted by SelfPropelledDevo
    ..reminds me of a time when i was in Army, we'd be in the field, go all over god's good earth on deployments, and it always amazed me how we'd go to a wash rack, clean up the vehicles and howitzers as to not leave debris and simply look good while in convoy on hardball.
    back in garrison, again with the cleaning, pmcs, everything lined up on their chalk marks in the motorpool, howitzers fresh with breakfree, muzzle plugs, etc.

    a fresh clean drive train, shinny cogs and chain, clean OD green, flat black tyres, everything serviced and operational.
    I'm looking down at my worn out, cut off and made into shorts, sub bdu pants, and thinking I really do like the 1x1 being mostly black and stealthy.

    Great Stories, as always "D". We gotta figure out a day that I can get into work, when you're off, and have you stop by my work, on the Presidio, and let all my co-workers talk to you. I've shown some of them your stuff and they love it all.

    Keep up the Great Stuff man!

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    Presidio? SF or Monterey?

    today i was on the phone, following up with some stuff
    as i'm always keyed into the sounds of aircraft, their azmith of approace, alt, etc
    I'm hearing this plane come in...im thinking its BIG, and its SLOW....what the???
    we are in mid conversation as I'm looking out the window watching some sort of subdued OD green(ish) large 4 engine cargo jet come in.
    nothing like i've seen before.
    not a C141, no whine to the motor, but something with a T-tail, and winglets on the tips of the main wings. the fuse looks very Boeing-esq.
    lots of wheels, BIG flaps, and on an approach alt lower than typical.
    me thinks to myself, its full of cargo (who knows what), therefore the descent rate not so steep.
    moments later...i hear the reverse thrusters. (obviously now on the tarmac)
    me thinks maybe that is why the Coast Guard dolphin heli was flyn some kind of curious pattern last night. maybe a security check?

    either way...
    you got to love OD green, and anything subdued...

    peace...d
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