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    ... and if we just ...

    S.F.

    Now, sorry to go of topic folks, but...

    ~The new cargo's...definitely not the C1 Starlifter's my father flew in, and not the propped LC-130's...

    They're the C-17's, sick, sick power and agility.

    Here you go...

    I know which one you mean. They've been doing some night maneuvers out of Moffett the past few months. They're coming in REAL LOW, as in less than a mile off the deck around Fremont, etc, before turning back practicing touch and go's... having access to bases has it's benefits! I really get to geek out!

    You should've seen the Blue Angels fly over work last week, I couldn't work without smiling and laughing as customers kept freaking out and twitching as they flew over!!


    Now back to our other point...

    So, you gonna visit then?
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    WOW! thats the plane. crazy pics.
    so a trip to SF is what you are proposing....hmmm
    well... brother...I very much do appreciate the invite.
    however i am comfortable at this distance and the banter
    perhaps this year i will take the weekend off for SOC.
    its now been 2yrs since I've had a car.
    I think I've rented a car twice to visit my grandparents in SoCal
    all in all i dont think i've put 1000miles in a car in 2yrs.
    thanks for the invite

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    the Pug still sits all purdy and clean like, shinny chain and spokes. I've got my salsa all packed up, new racks, panniers mounted, now to get to bed, rest, and up early am...
    out the door...
    4 day ramble...
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    Let's see some pics of the Salsa. I'm interested in seeing a moto rapido set up for touring... I'm planning on doing the same thing to my Ala Carte...

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    rapido tambien

    i have no idea how many lbs lighter than the pug. lol
    racks by old man mountain.
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    Awesome.
    I think I'm just going to have a rear rack. I prefer to travel light. I learned how to minimalize while hiking the A.T...
    Dreaming about the Great Divide Route... What have you got planned?

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    i never hiked the AT, but did about 1.5yrs on my bike/camping/hiking playin Joe Hobo a techno yuppie hobo complete with Ti spork. Im leavin in an hour or two for just a 4 day ramble. a loop of sorts. pics to follow when i get back.
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    ...then again, I haven't actually tried stuffing a week's worth of gear and food into my panniers (ortliebs). I guess we'll see.
    I'm currently in grad school and ready for another epic adventure as soon as I'm out of here. Getting paid to study geology in the Bahamas can be sweet, but I've had enough of school for now...

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    57hrs

    I just got back from my trip.
    1 day early.

    while this ramble is not about the Pug, that is...
    its not the bike in the highlight today.
    rather it is still sitting next to my futon, all clean, on display
    however...I say this about the Pug.
    if i hadnt spent the last year almost daily on the Pug i doubt that i could have done this ride.

    I rode from my loft here in Pacific Grove, Ca. 93950
    up and over HWY68 to HWY1, go south to Carmel Valley Rd and keep on goin...
    turn right into Arroyo Seco and go past the pavement, onto Indians Rd.
    On Indians Rd that is the "no mans land"
    Continue on Indians into Ft. Hunter Liggett, turn right on Nacimiento Ferguson Rd.
    climb Nacimiento and descend into Kirk Creek
    now on HWY1 56miles south of Carmel Valley road
    go home on HWY1.

    the trip went like this...
    rollin on Carmel Valley rd is mostly climb, and a long ways at that
    then into Arroyo Seco, i get to the campgrounds and this guy at the toll booth, is so very much the troll under the bridge of billy goat gruff.
    20$ to camp! forget it man...
    im just passin thru, I want to get to Indians Rd.
    ok...well that will be $5 for day use...
    dude...your killing me with this...
    you want to get there right?
    ya...
    well...its $5

    Arroyo Seco campgrounds looks like a very nice place to stay. High dollar in my opinion.
    at the end of the campground, which is again...more climbing
    Indians Rd starts where the pavement ends.
    and when they say Arroyo Seco is a gorge...it definately is.
    it could have easily been a scene from Kings Canyon
    at less than 2000ft the terrain is hard, the rocks jagged, and the drop to the river is probably at least 500ft. straight down

    its late in the after noon, im spinning the pedals, and looking for water to filter.
    im anticipating less than 20 miles of unknown terrain, and lack of water, plus a night of camping, a meal, coffee or tea, etc. i need water.

    I find a trail that drops into the gorge and decide i better take the opportunity. its a bit of a drop, very steep. as i've ridden every last inch possible, i've got to climb another 1/4mile to the water. at this point i had definately thought about simply just camping at this spot. especially since it had been about 6hrs of effort up to that point. instead i opt to keep going.

    as i get back onto the dirt road, and get ready to climb, i hear a persons voice...
    a guy, whom im thinking is the ranger, or other authority, is walking up to me, with a light backpack, and a knife on his hip. its looking about 10". crew cut hair cut, and hoofin it at a pretty quick clip.
    he hikes as fast or faster than i can climb. the road is quickly turning into double track, and often just single track, the light is dropping, the temp is doin the same.
    this guy is not given me a break...
    we continue...
    up and up and up
    he keeps making strange coments...
    he's not a happy guy
    mostly disgruntled
    a special ed teacher, and he rants and rants about politics, etc...
    every so often he checks his knife, and likes me to be infront...
    im uneasy...
    but dont show it...
    as im telling him i work at the hospital...
    i was in the Army, etc...
    he starts to show some respect for me...
    i never really tell him my exact plans...where im going, etc.
    its now dark, and we keep on with the climbing...
    im wondering how long this will keep on
    suddenly he says that he'll be turning around in about 10 minutes, and does!
    I keep on for 1.5hrs of climbing just to ease my mind...
    i find a level spot in a saddle that has an eastern esposure to the left(ish)
    im at about 2300ft or so
    the whole time i've been climbing with a single LED backpacking light
    cycling it off and on every so often
    the moon is 1/2 full, enough of a purple light to cast a shadow
    i sit and listen....nothing
    i pitch camp.
    10hrs effort for the day.

    in the am i wake up to daylight wanting to break
    frost on the panniers and tent...
    the sun crests, and the temp drops 8degrees so i crawl back in my tent and bag, opting to wait for Mr. Sunshine to make the day.
    by 10am im rolling.
    more climbing...
    climb, climb, climb
    Indians Rd, is nothing of a road.
    a fire road washed out for 10yrs now...its double track at times, and has a bunch of landslides. One in particular, i had thought to remove the panniers and portage my kit in pieces. suddenly i laff at myself with the thought/picture of me in the Ventana Wilderness scrambling across a landslide with 4 panniers in hand. Suitcases!

    the trip along Indians was a highlight for sure! Beautiful God's Country! i stopped to snap off lots of pics.
    Once i got to Indians Ranger Station, not a soul was to be found...nothing but desolation
    it seemed as tho i had the whole of the Ventana Wilderness to myself. the only way a person could be out there was to hike the route i took, or to hike from Big Sur, or The Los Padres Dam area. either way...i really doubt anyone was out there.

    From Indians Station into Ft. Hunter Liggett
    on post the miles just droned by...as i could hear a warbird over head
    mile after mile...of perfectly smooth pave
    the valley(s) are beautiful. Oak trees everywhere. the sound of acorns falling sounds of a crackling. like a fire. but instead, the trees are litterally raining acorns!
    i take a break at 3pm once im onto Nacimiento Ferguson Rd. its 5hrs of effort at this point.
    Acorns are EVERY WHERE! not little ones either. they are the size of your entire thumb if not bigger. 5 acorns split open, shelled, leaves you with a handful of acorn meal. almost a veggie burger worth! i can only imagine how many of thousands of tons are out there. its no wonder that Ohlone lived here for thousands of years. I wish i could at that moment!

    Climbing Nacimiento Ferguson the day is fading, the temp is dropping, i've been sweaty all day, clothes are damp, im adding layers, and its up, up, up. not the steep up of mountian biking, but instead, 15-30ft/min for 3hrs. Once i stopped to filter some water, the night was real close, so it was back to my LED backpacking light strapped to my helmet.
    darkness came quick, as i was climbing the east side of a ridge. left in shadow long time ago.
    wild life runs infront of me, stops on the road, puffs up, and darts off
    fox
    boar
    bob cats
    bats
    owls
    and countless small things that seem to scurry under pedal
    at the summit its 6pm on Holloween :-)
    looking west at the vast open expanse...
    1/2 moon
    the world is purple
    the road is mostly exposed
    no more shade trees
    no more forest
    instad grass lands, rocky hillsides
    purple moonlight guides the way
    while coastal fog strikes out in bright silver!
    Nacimiento summit is about 3-4000ft elevation
    Cone peak is to the right. From sea level to the top of Cone Peak @ 5100ft its the steepest gradient in the Continental US.

    descending Nacimiento under moon light is the most sublime, most surreal experience I've ever had. rolling along on the bike, like in a dream, all the details washed away, only the silver fog laying below, the feel of the bike beneath, modulating the brakes, while the heat is felt thru my shins. only to cycle the LED light off and on thru the darkest of forested draws and turns.
    into the fog layer, everything is now bright silver, a light drizzle, the taste of salt in the air, when suddenly i pass thru, and sparkles of light flicker below, bon fires at Kirk Creek, a lone car or two on HWY1 in the distance moving slow...
    suddenly i reflect on the past 2 days effort, my life, how it is that i've come to this point, all the racing, the military, the discipline, and yet the ability to let it all go, and to simply observe, take in, the moment.
    this moment...
    im consumed in awe, gods grace, my luck, the blessing of this moment, the experience...i break down...and emotional flood while still descending, the details of road under my pedals and before me washed away, only the details of flickering bon fires guide my general direction.
    a 45min descent under moon light...
    sublime for sure, awestruck...

    At Kirk Creek i spend Holloween, pitch camp, a racoon comes by...
    trick or treat
    i toss it a few scraps
    ask it to now leave...
    upon its return...now time for tricks, gone are the treats...
    i toss a small rock, then a throw, now to aim, and it runs away...
    again with a return, and now its the sling shot...not to harm, or mame, but to get the point across...
    as the moon is so bright, i can still make out its shadow when its 30ft away...slingshot...rocks.

    today...11/1/06
    the sun breaks...
    the dew bakes way
    im on the road at 10am
    Kirk Creek to Pacific Grove is my objective.
    about 60 miles.
    i stop along the way to shoot a few pics

    outside of Big Sur, just past the lighthouse
    i round a corner as people are scurrying from their cars...
    a crash
    mass confussion...
    i start barking out orders...
    a guy just stands there in shock with his cell phone in hand
    i tell him to call 911
    "where are we", he yells out
    me: "5 miles north of Big Sur just past the lighthouse on HWY1"
    everyone is out of their cars but one...
    ______________________________________________

    i say my prayers
    thank god for my days
    ______________________________________________

    i get back into town and its been dark for awhile now
    stop at Trader Joes for ice cream and coffee
    the scene is BRIGHT and ALIVE
    people stare at me
    i smile
    salt trails streak my stained black cycling clothing
    im faded
    im tired...
    im euphoric
    3 days
    2 sleeps
    and i have no idea how many miles
    how much climbing, etc.

    i get home and its just prior to 7pm.
    10am 10/30 to 7pm 11/1
    57hrs
    3 days
    2 sleeps
    solo
    unsupported

    peace...........d

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    more pics, not enough space...

    more pics...
    you can see how the climbing is for the most part...
    its gradual, and at times it can get a little steep
    but with a set of panniers, it adds up
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    pics, pics, pics

    pics...
    its all about the pics
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    still more pics

    this was the Hunter Liggett portion
    even got a pic of an old tank
    M60?
    and a shot of me at the base of Nacimiento Ferguson at HWY1
    Kirk Creek
    and a couple from Big Sur

    enjoy

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    vids uploaded

    awhile back the HD on my laptop crashed, and somehow i dont have everything fully restored. oh well...what the heck...right? i mean...live is transitory, and why should i sit around and grasp onto the past.
    like...

    specifically, i decided to just republish my website, and who really even cares if its not restored.

    anyways...
    there are a couple of vids

    57hrs
    is the last trip i took

    Pug goes to SC is the beach ride.

    the are both fairly long
    a bunch of yada yada yada, etc

    anyways...vid of stuff around my locale.

    peace........d

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    the pug's life

    Devo, your tales have undoubtedly inspired the many who've read along this thread. You lament over those driving to the ride and working for the ride (aka play time) vs. living the ride (as your do).

    There's an expression: the sweet ain't so sweet without the sour, and it's symbolic of the point I'm trying make. Do we need to deny ourselves for most of the week to fully enjoy the fruit of singletrack and time away from it all? I mean, if this playtime is one's mainstay, does it loose it's lustre? Do you have to keep reminding yourself to appreciate each moment on the trail ?

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    I think i hear where you are coming from. And i do agree with the sense of duality for sure. not that im about attempting to make point or anything, simply sayin..that we make choices, and as i work my 10 days in a row with 4 days off, the price of everything going up, i wonder why we choose to work so much, and why we always keep nudging each other out. why is it that its such a diffucult thing to attain...that being...simplicity and time to just ride a bike. i wish that we'd slow down.
    peace.....d

    It seems like the vids are downloading? ya?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SelfPropelledDevo
    It seems like the vids are downloading? ya?
    cool........

    The SC vid isn't working for me . . . just a big question mark.

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    sorry about that (sigh)
    obviously im still having problems with my laptop and dot mac
    i should just break down and buy a new iMac, cams, etc, yada yada yada
    sorry :-/
    im trying to get things straightened out...
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    night beach ride

    my work hours keep me up late, and even when im off of work, my sleep patern pretty much stays the same.
    so the last few nights i've been out riding around late.
    tonight i decided to do a beach ride.
    cool.....


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    so i get home today, and the guy i rent my loft from is still up at 1130ish and comes out, "hey D- want to watch a movie?"
    ya sure...what ya got?
    "Who Killed The Electric Car?" I think its something you'd really enjoy,since your anti-car.
    Ok...cool...sounds like something right up my alley. I'd probably really dig it.

    and he's right, as its still playin out here on my laptop, its a documentry.
    rent this movie.
    "Who killed the electric car?"
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Kil...lectric_Car%3F
    so many other times in my life I've seen a this scenerio played out.
    a variation of a common theme.
    when i was kid, a freshman in HS, i went to school in Moro Bay. At the time Diablo Canyon was being built and there was alot of contention in the realm of energy.
    As i grew up, I ended up taking alot of autoshop classes,i worked in a garage, built up some hot rods in Ventura, sold them, etc, yada yada yada.
    everytime, my relationship with the car has ended in a sour note.
    including the last time when a drunk driver was on the wrong side of the road, totalling my then new Honda Element. Even then, when i had bought the Element, i felt that it was just wrong. I wasnt on the bike so much anymore, but i was "stable" working more, and not living my simi-pro hobo life out on the ramble on the bike.

    well...now its been just over 2yrs with no car. mostly i love my Pug, i ride it every day, and i'd say its safe to say i ride about 10,000miles a year, and i spend about 1/3 of my take home pay.

    so this movie strikes a note with me.
    i can remember auto shop...
    i can remember taking Bio 160. Humanity and the environment...

    all in all, its a whole lot of sensationalism
    a new movie out...
    politics,etc...
    a bit more than i wish to really get all caught up in...

    but i do no this....
    for me...
    the center of the universe is the bottom bracket.

    its a cool movie...
    typically i dont even watch TV
    much less watch a movie...
    but this movie is a cool documentry...
    i dig it...
    and i think its worth the 90 minutes...

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    so i get home today, and the guy i rent my loft from is still up at 1130ish and comes out, "hey D- want to watch a movie?"
    ya sure...what ya got?
    "Who Killed The Electric Car?" I think its something you'd really enjoy,since your anti-car.
    Ok...cool...sounds like something right up my alley. I'd probably really dig it.

    and he's right, as its still playin out here on my laptop, its a documentry.
    rent this movie.
    "Who killed the electric car?"
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Kil...lectric_Car%3F
    so many other times in my life I've seen a this scenerio played out.
    a variation of a common theme.
    when i was kid, a freshman in HS, i went to school in Moro Bay. At the time Diablo Canyon was being built and there was alot of contention in the realm of energy.
    As i grew up, I ended up taking alot of autoshop classes,i worked in a garage, built up some hot rods in Ventura, sold them, etc, yada yada yada.
    everytime, my relationship with the car has ended in a sour note.
    including the last time when a drunk driver was on the wrong side of the road, totalling my then new Honda Element. Even then, when i had bought the Element, i felt that it was just wrong. I wasnt on the bike so much anymore, but i was "stable" working more, and not living my simi-pro hobo life out on the ramble on the bike.

    well...now its been just over 2yrs with no car. mostly i love my Pug, i ride it every day, and i'd say its safe to say i ride about 10,000miles a year, and i spend about 1/3 of my take home pay.

    so this movie strikes a note with me.
    i can remember auto shop...
    i can remember taking Bio 160. Humanity and the environment...

    all in all, its a whole lot of sensationalism
    a new movie out...
    politics,etc...
    a bit more than i wish to really get all caught up in...

    but i do no this....
    for me...
    the center of the universe is the bottom bracket.

    its a cool movie...
    typically i dont even watch TV
    much less watch a movie...
    but this movie is a cool documentry...
    i dig it...
    and i think its worth the 90 minutes...

    peace.........d
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    its 2330hrs im off duty, doin my typical ride home down Holman HWY, its less than 50F and i've been really digin my new handle bar mits.

    zoomin down Forest past Trader Joe's...
    spinin out a 44x12t on Pug with a Vega is a bit sketchy, but ok in a straight line

    full speed, set up wide, and i pull the outside bar for the 1st right hand turn into the Candy Cane lane neighborhood with no brakes, as i've been pushin this right/left zig zag combo for more than a year now, and i've got just about 1.5ft of safety zone narrowed down.

    Im into the turn, committed to my line, lookin into the darkness where the Vega is yet to come around, when i notice MOVEMENT!

    I grab a handful of the binders, pull the Pug off edge, and onto the meat of its tyres, when the light comes around and i find myself...

    Head on collision course @ 30mph+ into the antlers of a large buck!
    he's moved a bit, but has decided to defend the doe he's with.

    Im grabbin the binders A LOT MORE, off the back of the saddle a bit, and the rear is startin to slide, stepin out to the left, as the front tyre digs in, me braking more, im on that edge, as the rear wants to come off the ground, while still tryin to turn, the front grabbing all i can put into it...
    it skips a couple of times...
    all i see is deer and antlers...
    UP CLOSE!

    bang!
    contact!
    antlers to handle bars!
    me still with forward momentum
    still on the brakes...
    deer hooves slide on asphalt
    we are locked...
    im upright...
    deer slides more...
    we stop

    track stand
    deer in Vega light

    i scream
    Raaarrr!
    shake the bar...

    we break contact
    it looks at me...
    and moves onto a lawn with his antlers at me
    i cirlce on the street...

    say my prayers...
    and give thanks for the experience

    I've had some wacky days on the bike
    some wacky experiences
    some bland and mundane ones too
    well...mostly

    locking handlebars with a buck was a first
    the thought had never crossed my mind
    but tonight
    on Morse Dr, 93950
    its a first in the Devo world :-)

    cool....
    i love riding a bike!

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    Wild Planet

    Yet another thing to be thankful for!
    Amazing story, as is this whole thread...

    Joining the legion of Pug People today, ordering my frame at least!

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    pug pics

    i thought this was a cool pic
    shot at about midnight

    peace........d
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    Pug goes to SC vid.

    it looks like i finally have it loaded.
    so here it is
    long and drawn out
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    spinnie spin spin night ride

    so i went out for a little spinnie spin spin, ended up on Ft. Ord, it got dark, the temp dropped to 47F, i really dig having handlebar mitts, aka: Poggies

    here are a couple of pics.

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    Bob Cat, Pug, Ord...home

    ok...we all know by now that i dont own a car. its been over 2yrs. everywhere i go is by bike.

    today i decide im going out to Ft. Ord, and check out some of the trails that has been a point of contention on the NorCal forum: Sea Otter Course F*#ked Up By Horses

    Over the last weekend there was an equestrian event held out there, and some mention of the trails being all messed up, due to the horses, and the way their hooves chop up the trai. Well...it rained, the soil is sandy out there anyways, and it seems like the "chop" is pretty well knocked down, and the smooth, park like setting is returning.

    lol

    i said, "park like setting"

    just for reference, I was stationed there 87-91' in the Army assigned to a light artillery airassualt unit. the Army didnt think twice about environmental impact.
    lol
    its freaking hillarious!
    areas that are now "rehabilitated" some once old fire roads, rutted to the point that they were litteraly unwalkable, but yet of course, we'd drive a HumVee, 2ton, 5ton, pull a howitzer, etc, and make way.

    i was out there riding when the post was in decomission phase, when none of the ranges where marked, and of course all the fox holes where still there too.

    over the years, BLM and of course the masses of MTBR's out there the trails, they have been re-estalished, re-routed, surveyed, re-asseted, and re-enginered. all for the better.
    what is now 50
    was what we once called pinche chongo, that was so freaking scary fast that you never thought you'd live to recall. complete in the day, breaking thru deadfall, poison oak galore, as in the day, everytime you got under the canopy of oak trees, the beautiful green/red hue of the laying brush was noting but of course, poison oak. on that trail i recall the frame of a car or something being there, maybe a refrigerator frame, a transmission, and of course, the ever present, overgrown, foxhole that had been long since abandoned.
    for a cyclist at speed, plowing thru fresh underbrush, flashing thru the shadows, to come across a hidden foxhole was about like crashing into your coffin. :-) LOL!

    Now a days, we complain about hoove prints!

    so i took the Pug out to see what all the BS was about, and sure enough, its all totall BS. rest assured, BS. but lets not let our guard down. it would be all too easy to let any single user group get out of hand out there on the old training grounds that i learned the art of being a "Light Fighter".

    here are some pics.

    enjoy...

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    p.s.
    of course we all know that the Pug goes over almost anything. right?
    and of course, my head aint the way most peeps head is...
    lol
    my Pug is my commuter bike!
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    night shots...im on a kick

    ok...so im on a night shot kick.
    are we tired of Pug pics yet?

    tonight it was 46F, and windy.
    i really enjoy having my poogies...
    that is, my Moose Mitts
    they are so crazy warm, WOW!
    i even thru in a set of chemical handwarmers.

    sittin around playin with the digi cam, with short finger gloves, in the wind...hands get cold.
    no problem, hop back on the bike and ramble around town.
    its too cold for most around here, hardly anyone on the streets.
    and its extra fun to ride in a new found level of comfort. when hands are really cold, just simply grab the handwarmer packets and hold them between the grips and our fingers.

    pure luxury.
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    Hey Devo - nice paintjob - dumb Q - that color is called OD Green? Powder or paint? DIY or shop?

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    OD green Pug of course

    O.D. Green = Olive Drab Green
    aka: Army green
    and its powder coated, with frame saver on the insides, as well as the racks, of which the tubes are tubes are siliconed
    with the exception of the front of the front rack...
    being that the front rack is actually a rear rack..
    with a hack/mod job
    the resulting finish, of what is now the front of the front rack, left it kind of sharp, so i filled the holes with Goop as well as the rear, with safety in mind.
    that is...
    what a bummer it would be to crash and somehow have the pug take a biopsy out of you.
    i.e. like the way a open handle bar would cookie cutter a plug out of your leg if there were no handlebar plugs.

    so the Pug is Olive Drab Green in powdercoat. Flat OD Green at that. as compared to a gloss finish.

    back to racks and panniers
    + poogies
    + chemical handwarmer packets
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    Pug vids on YouTube

    this is an old vid.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB6SnqqdlCU


    and there should be a new one loading soon too.
    just a quick shot of riding on loose sand with full panniers, 3 days worth of provisions.


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    Really cool. Thanks for sharing

    Do you know if the Nice Front Rack works on the Pugsley? (I remember the hack job you linked me too in another post - but thought that maybe the front rack came out after the mod - because I didn't know they had a Nice front until recently).

    Where'd you get the small Surly decals/stickers for the rear?

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    vid, racks, decals, and more

    first here's a YouTube link
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dON5uybOA48
    its the Pug with both racks, panniers, and 3 days of provisions aboard. About 80lbs of bike.

    the Nice Front Rack will not fit a Pug fork, as its a front rack, and the hub spacing is like 110mm as compared to the rear hub spacing of 135mm. Im not sayin that it couldnt be done, some cold spreading (bending) would be in order.
    all in all, i opted for the clean mod job that had been posted. it had been done once, so i quickly followed.

    on racks...
    the thing with the Pug of course is the unique offset in the frame and fork. which necesitated that the rack is mounted on the inside of the lower rack boss. which in turn is a bit of a hassle to take the racks off and on. but really all it takes is to remove the wheels. being that now, the allen bolt head is located on the inboard side of the boss, next to the wheel.

    decals...
    I simply bought a new set of Surly decals. the kit comes with headbadge etc.
    in my view of Surly...
    they have got this whole game NAILED!
    they are like...
    the Schwinn, Huffy, AMC, etc
    what i mean is that...
    being that they are part of QPB (Quality Bicycle Products) they really are something along the lines of "America's Bike". that being...that the parts, et al are available at any LBS. and that is SUPER freaking cool!

    In the world of bicycles, it seems to me that Surly not only has a wide product range, but they are really the only Brand out there (at large) that is aimed at affordable, viable, transit for the masses, and the parts actually last!
    Good solid products! wow!
    so obviously im sold on Surly.

    now, to hold on for that new Big Dummy
    I also wonder about a KM compared to a Salsa El Mariachi
    two bikes of similar
    of course my brain goes in the 29er direction
    and im thinking of racks and panniers...
    and thinkin of a rig that can take slicks for the miles of pave, and swap over to knobs for when the pave ENDS.
    something that is expedition reliable, and yet fairly swift of the road.
    El Mariachi...
    im thinkin thin tubes, fancy paint, a bit dressed up
    KM...
    im thinkin 1/2 the price, toned down, reliable.
    what would seal the deal, is if the KM had rack braze ons.
    at this point it is all about the Old Man Mountain racks.
    http://www.oldmanmountain.com/

    so tonight i went out grabbed some Mexi food, had dinner with a friend, goofed off around the wharf in Monterey, took more pics. I guess im on a night shot kick.

    Poogies!
    its all about the Moose Mitts!
    the poogies and hand warmers!
    it was a bit windy and 40F on the wharf
    poogies are great. my new best friend.
    a bag of taffy from the candy shop on the wharf, the panniers, rack, left overs, digi cam, a cold night, poogies, and hand warmers. a scarce few people out and about. suddenly the world is that much bigger.

    lol

    i had to laff tonight
    doin about 20mph on th pave
    a guy crossing the street, about 1/2 buzzed, on his cell phone, steps off the curb to cross the street, as im zooming by with Vega light on, etc

    as i cross behind his path...
    on the phone he says, "oh sh#t those are some f*#cking huge tires! wait...he's pedaling! dude i thought he had a motor!"

    that was my laff of the night.
    Pug doin 20mph with lights, buzzing tyres, and 1/2 drunk guy on his cell phone trippin out.
    thats life on the Pug.

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    Nocturne

    Keep 'er rolling, D, and the encounters with Monterey "wildlife" too!

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    90% of America

    Im at work, changing clothes, getting ready to get back on the bike and this thought flashes across my mind:

    90% of America's psyche can be found on TV

    i had a good long hard laugh with that one. in fact...i was still laffin as i was ridding home.

    another flashed across my mind

    Drive to work = Work to drive

    i was pretty amused.
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    Pug-n-stores

    I’ve had a few bikes stolen in my bike days, and it really sucks. One of the misconceptions is that just bcz your bike is locked, its easy to fall into the mind that its secure. WRONG! I learned that a long time ago.
    Once when i was helping out, working in a local bike shop, i remember this real nice lady coming in, and looking around, we’d chit chat some, and it came down to that she was there looking to buy a lock. the question comes up, “What is the best lock?” my response, “None”. I told her the best lock is no lock at all. She was totally taken back, and started on this rant about her kids always getting their bikes stolen. I let her exhaust herself, to finally explain that locks lead us to a false thought, and that is...we think our bikes are secure when their are locked. We all know that its easy to steal a bike.
    Basically my technique is to limit the theft exposure time. that is...i rarely lock it up outside, and walk away. I hate that. I really dont like to lock the bike to a pole and walk into one of those big-ol box stores. No windows, high traffic area, lots of cars, etc.
    My best scenario is to take the bike INSIDE and lock it to a rack. Just like the pic above. This is in my local grocery store. and a big thanks to the staff that keep allowing me to bring my bike inside after work, and lock it to the food rack by the front wheel. Its pretty much damn near secure. What are the chances that someone is gonna walk in with a giant pair of bolt cutters and steel the Pug from right in front of the Deli counter?
    As it turns out, all my errands are to places where i can safely lock my bike. I cant begin to tell you how many times I had brought a bike into a store, and to have them say, “you cant bring that in here”, and my response, “I’ll do business elsewhere. Somewhere that lets me bring my bike inside.”
    In our American world that is so centered around a car life, the big parking lots, narrow bike paths, or no shoulder at all, the stupid bike racks at the end of the mall, but car parking right out front (consequently I dont go to the mall) bike acceptance has gone straight to the top of my values. If any of the talk about Global Warming has any truth to it, I feel really bad for those who drive cars. I know that I’m not completely excluded from the realm of oil consumption, but by and large, my eco foot print on this planet is pretty damn small. Single guy renting a loft, vegetarian, takes short showers, and i dont even eat meat. heck...I even work in the PM’s which seriously limits prime time utility usage. I flip on 2 lights a night for about 2 to 3 hours.
    Anyways...what this little rant is really about is the acceptance of a bike in grocery store, a simple lifestyle, and low impact on the environment. I have to laff when i think of the time when i was on the Pug with the tyres psi all low, as i was ridding up some real nice scenic single track, i came across this guy taking pictures and he frowns at me. Those big Pug tyres, i can see in his eyes, he’s so disgusted about the impact. We chat for a few moments, and he is anxious to get to the bike issue. When I point out that the big soft tyres leave less of a foot print than his hiking boots, he just trips out. Then when i point out that i didn’t drive a car to get there, he’s totally blown away. When I take my thermos out and offer him a cup of coffee, we become friends.
    And that is where I’d like to leave this. That is...driving a car is a choice, and the way we impact the environment and each other is a choice.

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    addicted to night shots

    i cant stop taking night shots
    everywhere i look i see a pic
    its almost full moon, and i cant resist

    sorry if its getting boring.

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    Life by Bike

    The biggest obstacle in the world of “Life on the Bike” is social acceptance. its the weirdest thing. Bikes are socially accepted as recreation, as sport, and even as toys for the kids. When or would we consider the bike as Transport?
    I get it from all directions. Tonight it was from a co-worker in passing sayin “aint it about time you get a car?” (in reference to the rainy night) my response was, “you know how i feel about cars. there aint one car out there that is worth a damn.” “they are all polluting the environment, they make us lazy, complacent, and we are slaves to them, making car payments, buying gas, and lets not forget the huge liability they are.”
    His response was, “so what are you going to do when you get run off the road?”
    I said, “i suppose I’d call an ambulance, or die.” it depends on the extent of injury.” then the conversation just escalated, until i pointed out that just as the conversation’s nature was, so was the dynamics of social responsibility and the bondage to the cycle of “Life with Cars”.
    In the end, i apologized, “sorry dude. I just dont drive cars.” “well...that is...for as long as i can hold out.”

    Its a strange thing to live this life on the bike. Being of the lifestyle that the bike is central to everything you do. Its THE MODE of Transpo for me. Every aspect of our lives are centered on the car. Parking lots are huge, the shoulders of the road are mostly non-existent, and simply the view most people have about bikes, typically makes me an outcast.
    Even in the realm of my local bike club, me being a person whom commutes by bike, buys groceries, etc. ya....Life by Bike. Even in the bike club, being that my focus is not of “sport” or “athleticism”, Life by Bike is too far of a fetch for most. In fact; I cant think of one person whom doesn’t own a car.
    What is the deal? Why do we constantly choose a life so busy, and grasping for those shiny material things. Why do we sell our selves? Why do we sell away our days? the simple life of contentment, and just being on the bike. its so easy. it blows my mind. I mean...do you know that when im on the bike, quickly there comes a time when not a single thing goes thru my mind? Sometimes, I’ll gather a few things, and head out. Ramble, and the miles just go by. Even the days will fade by. the mind empty.
    I dont understand why life is so full of strife and discord.

    I guess this is how i feel.
    peace...d


    Well look at all those fancy clothes
    But these could keep us warm
    Just like those.
    And what about your soul
    Is it cold
    Is it straight from the mould
    And ready to be sold.

    And cars and phones and diamond rings
    Bling, bling
    Those are only removable things
    And what about your mind
    Does it shine or
    Are there things that concern you more
    Than your time

    Gone going
    Gone everything
    Gone give a damn
    Gone be the birds when they don’t want to sing
    Gone people
    All awkward with their things
    Gone

    Look at you out to make a deal
    You try to be appealing but you lose your appeal
    And what about those shoes you’re in today
    They’ll do no good
    On the bridges you burnt along the way

    You’re willing to sell anything
    Gone with your herd
    Leave your footprints
    And we’ll shame them with our words

    Gone people
    All careless and consumed
    Gone
    Gone going
    Gone everything
    Gone give a damn
    Gone be the birds if they don’t want to sing
    Gone people
    All awkward with their things
    Gone
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    BB Movie and more

    its cold (Monterey's standard of cold), and i'm conditioned to this circadian rythm secondary to my vocation/occupation of being on duty til about 11pm.

    so even on my days off i tend to get up kind of late, and stay up late.

    tonight was no exception. by the time i was coffied up, and well enough rested/ready to see the world, it was already late in the day. Just a couple of errands, around town, and yup, camera and tripod in panniers.

    one thing leads to the next, mostly pedal the Pug, go around town, and next thing i know, I've been cruizin around for a couple of hours.

    a little night ride along the beach, watch the cops, the hobos, the cars frantically in a hurry to get somewhere, and then im home.

    i dont watch much TV, and its been on AMC since the last time i turned it on, probably about 10 days ago.

    much to my surprise and pleasure, the night has been filled with The Blues Brothers. What more could i ask for?

    sittin around, i decided i need to polish up the hubs on my Zipps. I come to re-realize how much I've grown to dislike polishing things.

    i think about the Pug and how i never polish it.

    its like the Blues Mobile.
    the scene Jake and Ellwood jump their old cop car across an opening/rising bridge.
    Ellwood says....
    "its got pick up"
    "its got a 440ci power plant"
    "its got cop tyres"
    "its got cop suspension"

    the Pug has that same character.
    no need to polish it
    it constant, its not fussy, it goes any where.

    enjoy the pic(s)

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    are we tired of pics?

    more pics
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    Nope

    Never tired of pics, or the tales therein!

    May I share one also? My Pug, in embryonic form!
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    lol
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    more about rambling and on...

    more pics from today.
    today's ride was out to Ft. Ord.
    I kind of did a little trip down memory lane.
    went to the last remnants of my unit
    visited the motor pool
    stared at the chalk marks on the ground where the howitzers where lined up
    and just kind of tripped out a bit.

    now its CSUMB
    and the motor pool has a road going thru it.
    where my original motor was, there are now dorms

    my old barracks in DIVARTY are now dorms for CSUMB

    all the better i say
    its really refreshing to see kids walking on the grass
    hanging out
    doing the things that kids in school do

    long gone are the days of PT at 0600hrs
    military discipline is the past
    it nice
    im glad

    so here are some pics from todays ride.

    on a slight tangent...
    i'd like to plug the point that riding a bike doesnt have to be a car transport thing.
    as you all know...
    i havent had a car for over 2yrs now
    everywhere i go is on the bike
    today i rode all over Ft. Ord
    i didnt drive out there to go mountain biking
    i rode from my place here in Pacific Grove and did the whole little deal
    today was probably about 60 miles

    so it was trip down memory lane
    and as trippy as that was, as the night started to settle in...
    my best photos are of some BEAUTIFUL Amanitas!

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    Thank you for driving
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuiMF2-T6Kw


    Thank you for driving
    (sort of like the movie..."Thank you for smoking")
    i aint got much originality
    need a better computer

    or...

    "Drive to work = Work to drive"
    about how so much of America spends its time in drive thrus
    how much they spend on car related items/activity
    about "Global warming" (that dont exist)

    and most importantly...
    how you dont have to drive a car to go for a bike
    ride.

    its about how a bicycle is this awesome piece of
    transportation.

    one of these days, I'll make a for realz vid.

    enjoy
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    Nice video . . . I understand the problem with car culture, but as a bike riding car user, I felt that some of the commentary was judgmental and might hurt the cause. I agree that the role of automobiles is out of control and your video did a great job illustrating the problem.

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    we will never give up the car or corn syrup

    Quote Originally Posted by Hairllama
    Nice video . . . I understand the problem with car culture, but as a bike riding car user, I felt that some of the commentary was judgmental and might hurt the cause. I agree that the role of automobiles is out of control and your video did a great job illustrating the problem.
    I appologize if the vid was a bit harsh, and that you felt it was judgemental. i really had no idea that i was gonna do that vid, but it had been in the back of my mind for some time. Even still, it obviously can stand to be done in a better light.

    I am simply stating some facts that have been floating around.
    something like(ish) (as i dont recall the website(s) with stats)
    there are about 200K less vehicles in the USA than the entire population
    something like there are 60K more registered vehicles than there are liscensed drivers
    (dont even think of all the new cars still at the dealers)
    and that every gallon of fuel burnt = 19lbs of Co2 (i actually remember this reference: Al Gore, An inconvenient truth)

    the worst is the Aerospace industry
    there is no EPA when in comes to air travel
    the issue is that when a jet travels thru the stratosphere, it is giving the atmosphere a direct injection. the impact is much more acute as compared to fuel being burnt on the ground.

    something like...
    the average flight from New York to London is equivalent to a SUV running 24hrs/day for 3yrs. Per person.
    worst yet...
    the daily domestic flights = about 1.5yrs of a SUV running 24hrs/day per person.

    the major difference is, "the lung effect"
    that is...
    here on the ground, exhaust is subject to the weather, and of course, the vegetation "flitering" the air. (maybe us breathing it helps filter it too...lol)
    that is...
    the air moves back and forth, up and down, etc, secondary to the dynamics of weather patterns.

    at 30,000ft the chemical reaction is much different.
    fuel exhausted at this altitude reacts with the atmosphere differently and most of all...
    it doesnt have that "lung effect"
    once its injected into the stratosphere, it stays there.

    as everyone knows by now, I havent had a car for over 2yrs.
    i have rented a car twice to drive to SoCal and visit my grandparents/family
    in every instance, I so very much wish that i could simply ride to Salinas, hop on Amtrak (with my bike and other junk) and take the rail to SoCal.
    In fact, I wish that i could tour the USA in this fashion.
    and i dont mean, get to the station, take your bike appart, box it up and have it loaded on as luggage/freight or whatever its called.
    i mean...simply pull up and put the bike in a rack on the train. Commuter style.
    (thats my dream)

    as for cars in general...
    I've had a love/hate relationship with them most of my life.
    as a kid i took all the autoshop classes there were to take in HS
    and i even worked in a shop for about 2yrs wrenchin on cars in Ventura, Ca.
    I've built a few hot rods in my day
    and motorcycles too
    what im saying is that i definitely can dig the gig with motorized transpo
    heck...I keep looking at buying that stupid new BMW GS1200 Adventure (the Pug of motorbikes, of sorts)

    the last car was a new Honda Element of which i had for about a year.
    ultimately a drunk driver was on the wrong side of Lighthouse Ave
    we had a head on collision. element vs dodge caravan
    both new cars.
    both totalled.
    cops, insurance, etc, etc.
    alot of effort, alot of money, and for what?
    a stupid car to zoom around in
    its a drag to think about how many hours of work i put in and to direct that $ in the direction of a car. $20k car?

    at that point i decided i was going to go "carless" once again in my life
    but this time...
    I'm single, and have FEW obligations
    its been over 2yrs now on the bike
    and i have to say, that its so much better being on the bike EVERY DAY.
    and the practice of expanding on "the way to life via a bike" is very rewarding.
    but...
    i do realize i am very fortunate to live here in Pacific Grove.
    If i were still in Ventura, I'd seriously be thinking of moving.

    Ideally, in my mind's eye, a good place to live is where there is nature immediately available, there is a sustainable economy, and the infrastructure is "bike friendly"

    In our society these days, that is a very unique characteristic to search for. I think we as people want this, but generally we access nature via driving our cars out of suburbia, make a reservation via www.reserveusa.com and go car camping. that is us in a nutshell. its the L.L. Bean limited edition Subaru, COACH Lexus SUV, Eddie Bauer Explorer.

    and the cost of cars is really insane.
    where here in the USA the mean income for a family is about $40k/yr
    and how much is the mean car? $20k?
    how much is a house? its not like car prices vary in relation to real estate.
    not to mention the operating cost, gas, insurance, maitenance,etc.
    and what of the environmental impact?
    what of the health concerns?

    Pollution and Heart disease
    Cars, cigarettes, and fast food.

    of course its damn near impossible to escape this...
    everything i consume, food, clothes, the products used at my job, my laptop, electricity,etc...
    are all dependant on fossil fuel
    and can i possibly go a single day with out consuming corn syrup?
    its in everything!
    heck...i wouldnt be surpised if its in the epoxy used to make carbon fibre cranks

    as cyclists, i try/hope to advocate/point out, that the bike can be more than a recreational sport of choice.
    here in Monterey,i am a long time standing member of VCM (Velo Club Monterey).
    I have done my fair share of bike racing (including 24hr solo, of which i've had a few 4th place finishes)
    even here in Monterey, amoungst my fellow VCM'ers, the "Bike Advocacy" position is a meak squeak from me here in my corner. the most reactions are on subjects of pot holes,glass, etc, that present an inherent danger to "cyclists". we have TAMC (Transportation Agency of Monterey County...thank you) that is available to help with these issues.
    but here at heart...we as cyclists do we integrate the bicycle into our functional daily life? Mostly its get off of work, go for a ride, blow some steam off.

    in my addicted state to cycling, i finally directly asked myself, "how can i live on the bike?"
    as a kid i knew this answer. "dont own a car"
    as an adult this answer was...well...childish.
    so a series of compromises played out over a bit more than a decade.
    mostly i'd only own a reliable hoopty.
    at first it was an 83' Civic
    then it was an 82' Subaru wagon
    both cars were just hoopty enough to keep me from daily driving
    and definitely i didnt want to move too far from my job. (10-15miles is my ideal)
    $600/yr insurance and a take of gas would easily last a month.
    they where so hoopty that they rarely required being locked.
    that 82' subaru wagon was the best.
    when or if you slid it into a hillside, i never really cared too much. so what...more dents and scratches.

    but these days, i've pretty much given up on cars.
    simply they cost way too much
    the cost fiscally, environmentally, politically, and personally in regards to health...
    the price is too much
    that is...
    thats my personal view.
    as long as i can get away with not owning a car, the more my assets stack up.
    ironic aint it?
    its amazing to live the life
    when it comes to dating, and social life...
    the car pretty much holds us hostage

    the day i meet a girl who does her errands on the bike, goes to work, and she too having the Bottom Bracket the center of her universe, well...
    _________________(fill in the blank)
    but really...
    can you actually imagine a vegetarian, buddhist, simple living cyclist?

    probably not in the US
    that is why we have all the bling
    fancy phones
    and diamond rings

    __________________________________________________ _______________________
    Jack Johnson, Gone

    Well look at all those fancy clothes
    But these could keep us warm
    Just like those.
    And what about your soul
    Is it cold
    Is it straight from the mould
    And ready to be sold.

    And cars and phones and diamond rings
    Bling, bling
    Those are only removable things
    And what about your mind
    Does it shine or
    Are there things that concern you more
    Than your time

    Gone going
    Gone everything
    Gone give a damn
    Gone be the birds when they don’t want to sing
    Gone people
    All awkward with their things
    Gone

    Look at you out to make a deal
    You try to be appealing but you lose your appeal
    And what about those shoes you’re in today
    They’ll do no good
    On the bridges you burnt along the way

    You’re willing to sell anything
    Gone with your herd
    Leave your footprints
    And we’ll shame them with our words

    Gone people
    All careless and consumed
    Gone
    Gone going
    Gone everything
    Gone give a damn
    Gone be the birds if they don’t want to sing
    Gone people
    All awkward with their things
    Gone
    __________________________________________________ ___________________

    and worst yet...
    is it really true that the world is more and more going down the same road that we here in the USA are taking?
    are the simple healthy cultures vanishing?
    do they all want cellphones, cars, box stores, and malls?
    __________________________________________________ ______________________

    at this point...
    in my microcosom, simplicity via bike seems to be a safe place
    that is until i get hit by a car :-/

    that is my socio-political-environmental-personal rant

    if you read all this garb...I very much appreciate your attentiveness.
    you probably have similar notions
    so go out there,and ride your bike
    try not to buy that new Hybrid
    try to simplify
    and ride bikes.......



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    Jack Johnson, Symbol in My Driveway

    i've got a symbol in my driveway
    i've got a hundred million dollar friends
    i've got you a brand new weapon
    lets see how destructive we can be

    i've got a brand new set of stencils
    ive been connecting all the dots
    got my plans in a zip lock bag
    lets see how unproductive we can be

    i've got a light bulb full of anger
    and i can switch it on and off
    in situations it can be so bright
    i cant believe, how pathetic we can be

    i've got a perfect set of blueprints
    im gonna build somebody else
    might cost a little more than money
    but whats man without his wealth

    i've got a phosphorescent secret
    but dont you tell nobody else
    next thing you know
    the whole world will be talking
    about all the clues they got
    they just ain't no use
    they've got us fooled
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    so im trippin out a bit... (like thats new?)
    trippin on that about 500 Pugs have been sold far...

    Im trippin on the lady who started in on me for parking by Xtracycle infront of the store, and that i rode down the side of the cars, and that i dont have to wait in traffic like everyone else.

    Im trippin that someone is eBaying away their Pug...
    what the...?

    and im trippin on wondering where and what those Pugs are doin at this moment...
    im trippin on Project Rowanda... www.projectrwanda.org
    on that the farmers use bikes to get their coffee beans to market, and that there is a need for a large volume/heavy cargo bike
    Big Dummy, Xtras, fat tyre bikes, Pugs all come to mind...
    somehow i want to be there building bikes, helping the peeps...
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    with the recent posts/news of Pugs, i wonder if a "Post a Pic of your Pug" thread would be interesting?

    489 pics of Purple Pugs?
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    I say start the thread...
    and I'll get my camera batteries charged

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    the other day, i was out running errands on the Pug with the panniers, as it seems these days, I like the bike best fitted with bags to carry things.

    On the way to work, i realize that i need some glass cleaner, so i stop by the hardware store, as its the easiest place to stop that i know will have the stuff.
    for those of us out there, that dont know, basically the tactic in the life on a bike, is to pick places that are easy to get in out out. especially when it comes to having a good place to lock the bike.
    Here in PG the worst places to go are the big grocery stores, RiteAid, etc. these places are TOTALLY oriented to the customer that drives a car. Awesome parking lots, with not a single safe place to lock the bike.
    anyhow...my stop was at the hardware store.
    I buy Ace window cleaner, toss it in a pannier by itself, and off to work i go.

    Some 9 or 10hrs later, when i actually finish work, and get home, haul the Pug upstairs into my loft, I open the pannier, only to find that the spray bottle lid has somehow unscrewed off, and dumped a whole bottle of window cleaner into my pannier. LOL!
    Hillarious!

    The thing that TOTALLY blew my mind was that the Novara Expedition pannier didnt leak any of it out, and not only that, but i just unclicked it from the rack, opened the bag, took out the bottle, and poured it all back into the bottle! those panniers ROCK!
    so i got a really clean pannier, and saved the contents.

    a reverse test of pannier waterproof function.
    lol

    suddenly i see myself livin the life of Hobo-Joe on the ramble, washing car windows at major intersections, taking donations, with a squeegee dumped into a pannier full of windshield washer fluid.
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