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    I'm a little sad...not anymore: it's fixed.

    ...because my Monkey broke today. I was just riding along as they say when I spotted the crack and I can't think of previous occasions that might have caused this damage. I just had a good look at the crack and it's a clean crack, there is no sign of other damage.

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    It's the original model btw. I did notice that more recent Monkeys do have a reinforcement brace between the stays that mine does not:

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    Anyway, a view questions: Has anybody seen Monkeys crack in this spot before and do you think it can be repaired?
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    Do you know a welder(okay, first I should ask if it is past warranty through Surly) that can weld a bridge on and weld the crack? Seems like a pretty simple fix. Gotta love steel!

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    I'm not the first owner so warranty is not an issue. I asking around for repair options, I'm not sure how easy it is going te be though. Are steel frames like this heat treated after welding or not?

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    You should really contact Surly about this. Even if the frame is not under warranty they could still make the repair or inform a repair shop on how to do the repair. Surly would know best about their frame.

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    George2, keep us updated on Surly's feedback. Has there been a change from the earlier version to current to strengthen the affected tube?

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    Sorry to see it, George2.

    Just a friendly FYI - the newer frames have that brace in place because the chainstays are wider in that area.

    Good luck with a fix. Do keep us posted please.
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    So far I contacted a framebuilder and spoke with a welder at work. The latter will have a look at it tomorrow. We'll see, maybe he'll fix it for me but I'm also considering letting the framebuilder do the job and add a brace as well. I also mailed Surly, keep you posted.

    @AndrewTO: Thx for the info, I didn't know that.

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    My cross-check broke in a similar way, but on the non-drive side. I assume it was because I was running 130mm (road) hubs in the frame. It has 132.5mm spacing which is supposed to allow you to run both road or mtn hubs (135mm). However, i think that extra squeeze stressed it over the 7 years I've had it.
    But, took it down to a local machine shop and had it welded for $20. Good to go! Been riding it with the repair job for 2 years now.
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    That's good to hear, I left the frame at work where one of the welders is confident he can fix it. I think I might know what caused the problem, though. A couple of months back I managed to bend the chainring. It was due for replacement, the chain somehow got stuck and having nowhere to go (I was charging upp a hill singlespeed) it bend the blade. This was made possible bij one of the chainring blots missing I know that sounds rather stupid but I use a five bolt crankset and the missing ring was the one hidden behind the crankarm. To make a long story short, I think it is possible that the ring hit the chainstay. After removing the paint a small dent became visible and this might have been responsible fo weakening the chainstay and causing it to crack.

    However, funny enough I hadn't been riding the monkey for a while the day I discovered the crack and I was honestly contemplating how much I like it. So, I hope to get it back in action soon.

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    Surly contacted me as well today. Besides information (yes, the frame was heat treated after welding and no, they don't think a brace is necessary) they also offered me a crash replacement. I think that's very decent considering I'm not the original owner.

    Surly

    I am getting more and more confident the repair will be successful, I would really like to enjoy this bike a little longer...

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    Just curious, what were the terms for the "crash replacement", was it a previously repaired frame, a new frame for a few $$ to cover wear and tare or new for old ?

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    I don't think I'll need a replacement so we didn't really discuss terms as yet but they offered a discount on a new frame.

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    I'm happy again, the welder I mentioned earlier fixed the frame and added a brace while het was at it. We didn't think it was really necessary but he was on a roll and who am I to complain

    The frame was already in primer when I got it back so I don't have any pictures of the 'raw' repairs but I cleaned and sanded it some more, gave it a rattle can paintjob et voila:

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    Not perfect but close enough, can't wait to go riding again

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    Quote Originally Posted by George2 View Post
    ...the welder I mentioned earlier fixed the frame and added a brace ...
    Looks nice again! Could you please PM me the name, address and phonenumber of the welder? Bij voorbaat thanks.
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