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    Hot off the press Moonlander, Ogre, & 2012 line-up


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    awesome! I love the Ogre and the New KM w/o canti's! I am a fan....
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    Holy awesome! Glad I held out on getting a new bike... but man, all the options!!! Love the Ogre and the updated KM just as much as the Moonlander.

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    Really looking forward to seeing the Ogre built up. Looks like it's a good replacement for all us Salsa Fargo owners who want the Fargo's versatility in a flat-bar setup. Surly made me a big fan today!
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    FYI, the fat bikes forum thread on this info is into it's 2nd page already. Lots of buzz and anticipation over all the new stuff. Some really cool possibilities to consider with what Surly is bringing to market...not to mention the new colors.
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    So much good stuff! I'm really liking the new Pacer, the Ogre and that there's a disc option on the LHT. I don't see selling my current LHT to upgrade or anything to the disc version but it's definitely gonna take-over commuting duties. I'm gonna start saving and will be selling my CC to make room for something new, just don't know what... most likely a Troll or Ogre.

    Love the color on the Moonlander..."space".

    Good job Surly!
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    I have already decided to get the Orge for an over the winter build. About to pull the trigger on a heavy duty wheelset to get started until the frame is available.

    Thanks again Surly!

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    creamed my jeans over on the Fat forum yesterday

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    Quote Originally Posted by willapajames View Post
    Holy awesome! Glad I held out on getting a new bike... but man, all the options!!! Love the Ogre and the updated KM just as much as the Moonlander.
    Grays Harbor definitely merits a moonlanding. I am wondering about BFLs for my pug w/ that new crankset.

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    Hate to say it, but I would expect a greater rush to snag these new products (especially tires) than has happened previously.

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    Too much goodness! the orge could definitely rival the CC as the all-around machine for commuting, single track and road. i could see some really cool 'monstercross' and offroad touring builds from the orge. urge to make irresponsible purchase rising......

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    Looking forward to getting my moonlander and going where pugsley struggles

    And will be getting a nate tyre up front on the pug too, should be great for the woods,

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    I hope the Ogre has a taller head tube than the KM. An XL frame needs more than 105mm of head tube to not look so dorky.

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    Just when I thought the Cross Check was my next bike, there is the Troll complete, the Ogre, and of course the Fat bike options. Too many choices... but that is a good thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by seat_boy View Post
    I hope the Ogre has a taller head tube than the KM. An XL frame needs more than 105mm of head tube to not look so dorky.
    + 1x10^6

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    I just want to snag one of those Big Fat Larrys and one of the Nates for my existing Pugsley. The Big Fat Larry of course will go in front.
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    Darn. I was really hoping for a cross check disc. But if the LHT disc accomodates 29er wheels then I'm gettin one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelzbycks View Post
    Darn. I was really hoping for a cross check disc. But if the LHT disc accomodates 29er wheels then I'm gettin one.
    That's what the Ogre is for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAGI410 View Post
    That's what the Ogre is for.
    I like the horizontal top tube monstercross look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooker_47 View Post
    Really looking forward to seeing the Ogre built up. Looks like it's a good replacement for all us Salsa Fargo owners who want the Fargo's versatility in a flat-bar setup. Surly made me a big fan today!
    I'm afraid Surly didn't give the Ogre a higher headtube which is especially necessary for the XL frame size - because no commuter/traveller wants to ride a crosscountry position with his "head in the bottlecage"

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelzbycks View Post
    I like the horizontal top tube monstercross look.
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    Is the new moonlander frame the same as the pugsly?

    If the new 4.7inch Larry tires will fit in the Pugsley, then using the new Mr Whirley crank may give you back your granny ring and large cogs without chain rubbing. Then what's the difference in the two frames?

    Anyone have any ideas of running the new 100mm rims, 4.7inch tires, and double offset cranks on their pugsley? Because this is exactly what I want to do! Does anyone foresee any problems with this idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelzbycks View Post
    Darn. I was really hoping for a cross check disc.
    Exactamundo!

    I hope Surly is testing the waters with the disc LHT.

    If it weren't for the chainstay length on the LHT, it might be an okay replacement for the CC.

    The KM is closer to the CC in that respect.

    Chainstay length:

    18.1 inches on LHT
    16.7 inches on CC
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    Quote Originally Posted by western high plains View Post
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    Disc-Only CrossCheck in 2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelzbycks View Post
    I like the horizontal top tube monstercross look.
    Have you seen CBaron's bike?


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    Yes! Yes I have! Inspirational! I love it! I know the Singular Peregrine is the closest thing, and I've had the money to pull the trigger on Singular's frameset since tax time. On-One Pompetamine is nice too if you're single speed or internally geared. I'll probably wait for surly to come around. It's inevitable. Disc brakes all around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetness View Post
    Is the new moonlander frame the same as the pugsly?

    If the new 4.7inch Larry tires will fit in the Pugsley, then using the new Mr Whirley crank may give you back your granny ring and large cogs without chain rubbing. Then what's the difference in the two frames?

    Anyone have any ideas of running the new 100mm rims, 4.7inch tires, and double offset cranks on their pugsley? Because this is exactly what I want to do! Does anyone foresee any problems with this idea?
    They are similar but not the same, the ML has a steeper seat tube angle and better top tube clearance. Not as good for climbing but would give more room for the BFL.

    So far it seems the BFL is only going to fit upfront on a Pugs without major mods. Get the ML.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetness View Post
    Is the new moonlander frame the same as the pugsly?

    If the new 4.7inch Larry tires will fit in the Pugsley, then using the new Mr Whirley crank may give you back your granny ring and large cogs without chain rubbing. Then what's the difference in the two frames?
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    Kinda hard to tell from the surly blog, my 'guess' is the ML frame will be offset more, like the Clownshoe rim wheel build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
    Grays Harbor definitely merits a moonlanding. I am wondering about BFLs for my pug w/ that new crankset.
    I don't actually live in the Willapa/Grays Harbor area, but stoked you've heard of it! Willapa is actually my name, my folks lived there when I was born. Currently live in Vermont, could use a Moonlander here too!

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    I, too, like the Ogre. I was thinking about the Troll, not I'm not sure. The KM without the canti-studs looks as good as I thought it would. Wish they would make canti/disc frames and just-disc frames.
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    Thanks Surly, was just talking the wife around to a Troll frame for an early christmas prezzy, and you go and bring out the Ogre Back to square one and more spade work for me.

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    Anyone find a spy pic of the LHT disc? I would love to see what it will look like- I'm picturing an old-school style MTB updated with discs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dankilling View Post
    Anyone find a spy pic of the LHT disc? I would love to see what it will look like- I'm picturing an old-school style MTB updated with discs.
    Yes I am curious about the fork.

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    I would like to see dedicated trailer mounts on the LHT too :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by willapajames View Post
    I don't actually live in the Willapa/Grays Harbor area, but stoked you've heard of it! Willapa is actually my name, my folks lived there when I was born. Currently live in Vermont, could use a Moonlander here too!
    Mud season, definitely. We are off to the beach at Grays Harbor in an hour or so. No bikes today though.

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    I'll probably be swapping parts from a KM frame over to an Ogre when they are available. I do have concerns about the geometry of the Ogre, wouldn't it handle touring loads poorly with its super short chainstays? Is this a legitimate concern?

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    Quote Originally Posted by messofzero View Post
    I'll probably be swapping parts from a KM frame over to an Ogre when they are available. I do have concerns about the geometry of the Ogre, wouldn't it handle touring loads poorly with its super short chainstays?
    You can place the axle of the rear wheel at every position you want in the horizontal dropout. So you can change the effective chainstay length from short 431 mm to long 450 mm
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    Any of this new Surly stuff being showcased at Eurobike?

    If so, any pics out there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlesfest View Post
    If so, any pics out there?
    http://www.mosquito-bikes.co.uk/imag...pouts_grey.jpg

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    I pinched those off our MTBR fatbike forum

    cant wait to get a moonlander. looks ace,
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhound View Post
    Exactamundo!

    I hope Surly is testing the waters with the disc LHT.

    If it weren't for the chainstay length on the LHT, it might be an okay replacement for the CC.

    The KM is closer to the CC in that respect.

    Chainstay length:

    18.1 inches on LHT
    16.7 inches on CC
    17.0 inches on the KM
    Hmm... what about an LHT fork on a CC? Disc-front is better than nothing... IIRC though the A-C distance is different on the two...

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    Hot off the press Moonlander, Ogre, & 2012 line-up

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