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    I agree! SNG is a nice, little known gem on the Eastern side of the state. The trail is tough in some spots because of the amount of sand, but on good hardened trail, the grasslands can be really fun! You from ND?

    What studded tires do you run? Looking to buy some soon so I can continue commuting through the ND winter.

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    Got my CC out for a nice winter ride last night, first time with my new 700x41 Surly Knard tires. I loved them. They rolled very well, which surprised me, and they felt like they gripped quite well too.

    The only weird thing was they looked almost the same size as my 700x35 marathons. Thought they would look a bit beefier. I only inflated them to about 45 so they would grip better, so maybe that was it. All in all though, quite happy with the first ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wander View Post
    I agree! SNG is a nice, little known gem on the Eastern side of the state. The trail is tough in some spots because of the amount of sand, but on good hardened trail, the grasslands can be really fun! You from ND?

    What studded tires do you run? Looking to buy some soon so I can continue commuting through the ND winter.
    Originally from Coeur d'Alene, ID but we've been in Chicago for the past decade. Have taken a few road trips back/forth and that's how I've encountered the area.

    So I've got some Schwalbe Marathon studs 40mm free with my bike, and am yet to use them. Actually thinking about selling them though and getting the same pair in a 45mm..for no other reason than I want my xcheck to be beefy as hell. Coming off of riding a tri bike the past few years so I'm swinging this bike in the other direction (steel instead of carbon, fat tires instead of thin/fast etc).

    Tires that I'm running now are Clemont 700x33m which are great tires but only still on there for cyclocross. Once that's over in December will be throwing on the fat studded tires, as well as the revelant frame bag so I can do some exploring.

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    Got the Cross Check on the road. After some editing of the gratuitous decals I now ride Sur Oily.

    The stem is the wrong length and I've cut the gear cables outers too short, but it handles pretty sweet.
    Everything but the brakes and rear derailleur are eBay scored or sourced from the shed.
    Campag chorus shifters and record front mech
    Sram Apex rear mech
    Shimano Ultegra 50/34 cranks and 12-30 cassette
    Srampagmano!!!
    TRP CX9 brakes
    Mavic Ksyrium SL wheels - lipstick on a pig? Maybe but I have them lying around until I can afford to get a new set built up.
    Currently running Kenda small block 8 35c tyres but they were hard work on the road on the way home. I diverted through a mountain bike park on my commute and they came into their own there, but I think I'll save them for special occasions and swap them out for something more roadie for summertime commuting.
    I was pretty impressed with how well the bike handled. It descended as well as my road bikes and felt pretty sturdy on the gravel through the parks.
    Overall, pretty happy with the bike and the colour is a bit of a treat. Its a bit more pastelly than it looks on the websites, but its a pretty thing. I'm looking forward to getting it really dirty
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    Lipstick or not I love how those wheels look on it! Also agree that the color is a bit more more pastel in person, not by a whole lot but it definitely is not the deep nuclear like orange you see on the Surly sight.

    I just went and got a fit done on mine (on the house at the local tri shop. Sweet deal where if you get your tri bike fit done there they will set up your cross/road/whatever bike as well by putting you on the Retul). That leaves me with a few too many stems laying around. If you think a 105 or 110mm would fit for you let me know. More than happy to send it your way. I ended up with a 120mm on mine..which has to be the longest dam stem I've ever had (6ft on a 56cm).

    Anyhow love seeing the pictures and cant wait to get out on mine a bit more shortly. Taking it out for it's cross race in a few weeks. After that the studs go on.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolffman1 View Post

    Srampagmano!!!
    Sweet mother of God... what have you done?!

    Kidding--Nice build!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skipjack 50 View Post
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    That leaves me with a few too many stems laying around. If you think a 105 or 110mm would fit for you let me know. More than happy to send it your way. I ended up with a 120mm on mine..

    Cheers
    Thanks for the kind offer skipjack, I'm thinking I need a 100 so that would be helpful. I'm over in Australia though so postage is likely to be a bit of a pig.
    Send me a pm if that's going to be ok

    thats a 130 on there at the moment which is way too long. I'm 5'10 on a 54 and bringing the bars back and up will help a lot. It went ok off-road but it felt too stretched out to be really comfortable for long periods

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    Put the new xcheck to work (kinda)

    Happy holidays everyone!

    Well I've been wanting to get into cyclocross for a few years now and with this years late season purchase of my xcheck I was able to get into one race before the season ended.

    I BARELY beat a guy dressed in a turkey costume off of the start line..and knowing that here's how good of a time I was having.

    Since my cross "season" is over it's time to throw the schwalbe studded tires on...now if Chicago could just produce a bit of snow/ice...

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    Touring from Portland, OR to San Francisco, Aug 2010

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    Whoa, that is one loaded 'Check! (Awesome) Any handling issues with that much weight?

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    I tend to go through "cycles" where I couldn't possibly ride anything but my SS Pugsley for weeks on end, even a road ride to work. Then something clicks and and I'm in Cross-Check mode again. It's super-slow on pavement wearing these 45c Panaracer Fire Cross' but I'm a mountainbiker at heart and ride some pretty technical trails. I need to save-up for some Knards.

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    CC sporting new wheels on a foggy morning.


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    Hi mate that's one of the best looking CC I have seen, very nice.

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    Thanks OZ! I like it too.

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    Anyone seen the new reddish brown SS frame color in person yet? It looks good, but I'm wondering kit it's as dark as it looks in pics, or if it's almost old Steamroller-esque brown.

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    Now with 33% less trail



    Soma low trail conversion fork added today.

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    And the ride report? How is it?

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    Can't say definitively right now, since our roads are a mess with salt and ice, and there was some sleet coming down. I expect it to handle like my 650B converted Trek or VO Camargue, though, both of which I like.

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    And the ride report? How is it?

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    Definetly pushing the boundries of pics of my bike (3rd one..)..it's just so dam fun!

    Snowy lunch ride today. Max speed 8mph and somehow never went down..so fun in the snow..Cross Check pics please-img_3348.jpgClick image for larger version. 

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    I think you might need a few more links in that chain. great looking bike though!

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    Yeah I think you're right but my mechanic told me that it's fine. do you think that it would do long term damage to the r.derailer to have it maxed out like this every once in a while? I'm rarely in that gear but still if I added a link or two I'd probably go the chainstay route as well. Did not mind keeping it this tight as I was just getting into cyclocross this year and was probably way over cautious about dropping the chain so kinda backed into being OK it was so tight.

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    There are two major issues (that come to my mind, at least) that could arise with the chain that tight.

    The first is that, if the derailleur is impacted while in that gear, it will have nowhere to flex to, and will be more prone to breakage.

    And the second is that it may wear on everything more quickly. particularly the cassette.

    Also, I've run a derailleur that tight after a chain break. It didn't shift so hot. not sure how it shifts for you.

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    Add as many links as it takes to get into your largest sprocket on the cassette. If the de-railer looks almost like that in the largest sprocket, it's ok.

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    Good point. Shifting is actually OK though I cannot get the chain onto my biggest gear on the cassette.

    So far it's been OK as I'm in the flatlands of Chicago and running this as a 1x8 (well..technically a 1x7 I suppose) but I'd like to open up that last gear so well see how it goes by adding a link and then evaluating if a chain stay will be necessary.

    Appreciate the feedback. I'm not new to riding by any means but I also have been one of those knuckleheads who always take their bike to the mechanic (and usually on a tri bike which often only requires tune ups since that thing essentially just goes in a straight line on paved roads). Picked up the Park Tool book so it's time to get a little more hands on with the bike.

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    Thanks. I'll take that advice.

    What is that fish in your pic? Fairly certain it's a salmon?

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    If your mechanic says your chain is a good length even though you can't use your entire cassette, you need a new mechanic.

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    What I usually do is start with the chain on small/small and cut the chain so that it's short enough to pull the RD so that the chain goes from cassette across the jockey wheels without dragging against any other part of the RD.

    From there shift into big/big and make sure the RD still has some travel and that the chain again goes from cassette across both jockey wheels without rubbing on anything.


    I prefer longer than needed over shorter since it gives you more leeway in case of the unexpected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaultbrad View Post
    Add as many links as it takes to get into your largest sprocket on the cassette. If the de-railer looks almost like that in the largest sprocket, it's ok.
    that's not what manufacturers specifications or any qualified mechanic will say, but go crazy.

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    updated work bike...

    New bar tape and Brooks Cambium on my work bike. Cambium is eventually going on my other CC, but I ride this bike every day so I'm dialing the saddle in before I move it over.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Agwan View Post
    that's not what manufacturers specifications or any qualified mechanic will say, but go crazy.
    Props to Agwan for calling me out. He's right of course. The Barnetts manual says what "nickandbruce" says he does. Small small and take links until the derailleur is not collapsed on itself and everything rolls freely. So for a 1xN, chain to the smallest cog and do the above.

    My experience tells me that in a 1x(whatever) as long as the derailleur isn't maxed out in the biggest cog, even if it is stretched it is ok. I didnt say ideal, but ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaultbrad View Post
    Props to Agwan for calling me out. He's right of course. The Barnetts manual says what "nickandbruce" says he does. Small small and take links until the derailleur is not collapsed on itself and everything rolls freely. So for a 1xN, chain to the smallest cog and do the above.

    My experience tells me that in a 1x(whatever) as long as the derailleur isn't maxed out in the biggest cog, even if it is stretched it is ok. I didnt say ideal, but ok.
    Sram has made chain sizing a bit more complicated then that. Check the worksheets.

    Also, I will have to check when I get to work Tuesday but there is something in there about simultaneous 3 roller contact. Can't remember if that applies to this situation directly or not though.

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    Good to know. I'll check

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agwan View Post
    that's not what manufacturers specifications or any qualified mechanic will say, but go crazy.
    I do the same as vaultbrad on my 1x bikes. Granted, the derailer isn't maxed out quite like that. Maybe a link or two would suffice. Would help if the chain were to snap and you had no extra links.

    Quote Originally Posted by vaultbrad View Post
    Add as many links as it takes to get into your largest sprocket on the cassette. If the de-railer looks almost like that in the largest sprocket, it's ok.
    Just happy that the correct spelling for "derailer" was used.

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    Rambler.

    Got out for a nice 30 or so mile ramble on my CC. The Knards remain a great tire for this kind of mixed terrain ride that included packed dirt, gravel, mud and a touch of pavement. Could have used gears for a few sections. It was an unseasonably warm and sunny day here in OR.

    This set-up worked well enough although a range of gears would have been helpful at times.

    The photos aren't great but you get the idea.

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    Cross Check updates.

    Hi everyone I have been playing around with my contact points on my C.C lately. Firstly the bar, after riding my sons road bike I found the bar on my C.C to feel to small in diameter, and my position perhaps a little low and stretched.
    A 3T Ergonova pro and Ritchey WSC 25D stem had the bike feeling like new.
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    Riding on the tops is very comfortable now and the reach to the hoods makes riding there for long periods much easier.

    I have had the Brooks B17 for a few years now and have been sold on them ever since. The addition of a Specialised CG-R Carbon Seatpost is a match made in Heaven.
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    The post works much better than I had hoped, it really takes the edge off road buzz. A great up grade to consider.

    The seat bag is an Ortlieb Saddle-Bag in the large size. It takes a stack of gear and the three attachment points prevent it from moving around. It easily takes my normal load of a couple of spare tubes, tools, pump, food and a rain jacket with room to spare if needed. The bike is now ready to ride at anytime, just add water.

    These changes have only made a great bike better and increased the enjoyment of every ride.
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    Riding the Snotrocket 55 miles to, in-between, and from class and errands building up for another Tour de Cure century in a month and a half.

    I've been diabetic for 20 years, and my little brother was just diagnosed last week. We hope you don't mind me posting a link to my fundraising page.

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    Cross Check pics please

    Finally had my second Crosscheck build and had a maiden ride today. This bike is an awesome bike for a training ride.



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    Hopefully my last ride with snow all around for the year:

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    Seatboy - talk to me about that lowtrail fork. You like it better than the original or is it just different?
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    I like it better. It's not a huge, angels-singing-light-shining, kind of revelation, but it does make the front end steer a little more lightly, a little easier to initiate a turn. No shimmy issues, even without a bag, though I never ride no hands. It's kind of funny, the CC isn't a bike that I'm going to load up (I have my VO Camargue for that), so I don't really need the front load bias for anything, but I still like the way it handles.

    It's not super low trail--about 45mm vs. the stock 66mm, so the difference isn't as pronounced as some bike may have.

    It does have some nice features that my older stock fork didn't have: 350mm steerer, mid fork eyelets, and double eyelets on the fork tips.

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    Seatboy - talk to me about that lowtrail fork. You like it better than the original or is it just different?

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    After going back and forth debating Cross Check or LHT for nearly a week, I finally made a decision and ordered my new bike today. My CC will be ready on Friday.

    In the end, since everything I read told me I couldn't miss with either one, I honestly took the one that I liked the color of better - hospital foam over smoggy pearl.

    With the discounted price on last years models and the $150 Surly Super Fan coupon, I'm getting a complete CC for less than $1000. You really can't beat that.

    ***update***

    Is there anything worse than agonizing while your local LBS is backed up with work and your new build has been delayed?!?!?
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    New bike day! Here it is, in all its glory - my new Cross Shrek. I'm still trying to dial it in using the stock stem. It's comfy as is, but I may replace it with more of an angled stem and get the steer tube trimmed down at some point to reduce the number of spacers, if I feel the need.

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    Two rides on my new black 56 cm CC and I love it! Not as quick as my old Kona jts but a bit more comfortable. After looking back through the threads I've decided the original candy apple green is the coolest color of them all. I now remember why I was so pumped to see disc brakes on cross bikes though, the thought of some nice working hydraulics...Anyone with experience with the 46cm woodchippers? I'm in between sizes on a 56cm at 5'11 200 lbs. I was offered to switch out to a 58 by my LBS but think I'll stick with the 56.

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    I'm 6'0 and was told the same - I could go 56 or 58 too. I opted to go 58 and dial it in with stem and spacer adjustments since the feel of the 58 was great overall. If you feel good on 56, I'd stick with that.

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    Just registered after years of reading this forum and getting good info.

    I am 5 foot 11 and ride a 54cm Cross Check. It feels roomy. On a traditional frame I would look at a 56cm but with the lowered top tube of the Cross Check( to give a more comfortable stand over when you have fat'ish tyres raising the bike up off the ground) it's normally wise to go with your normal frame size minus 2cm. I see a regular stream of CC's on ebay where people have bought the wrong frame size and never really enjoyed the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munstro View Post
    .Anyone with experience with the 46cm woodchippers?
    I had them on my CC for a minute. They didn't work well for me--I ended up never riding in the drops b/c they positioned me too low and it just wasn't comfy. The flared ends are super wide, which I can see being nice for off road or touring, but I just wasn't using them as they're meant to be used. That was my experience. I think I would have liked them better if I'd been able to raise them up more so that the drops gave me a more neutral position.
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    cc is a messed up frame Geo.. If you get a comfy TT length, then you will likely experience major toe overlap ... This is my experience with my 54cm CC...

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    Here is my Cross Check set up as an SS. I usually run it fixed gear but I have some longer events coming up. Enjoy!Cross Check pics please-imageuploadedbytapatalk1428242931.050023.jpg


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