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  • 05-02-2017
    hamsterspam
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    got out for a nice little ramble today...aside from the swarms of bugs and occasional 20+ mph wind gust which magically shifted to become a headwind for much of the ride...didnt really get to stop and eat anything until i was already 33 miles in so i was getting a bit cracky by the time i got back to town...thankfully,the burrito exist...

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  • 05-03-2017
    Surly in OZ
    Hi Hamster, looks like great riding country, green too. I eat every hour these days, staves off the cranky man. An Aussie meat pie always goes down well. One of my riding loops has the best pie shop half way around. Always like that ride for some reason :)
  • 05-03-2017
    hamsterspam
    i tried to stop but the bugs were just insane,i had planned a nice long break but after a couple minutes i abandoned that idea...plus i made an attempt at taking a strava KOM along the way so i was pretty much just hammering away for a good 10 miles and then jumped right into another long segment where i was battling the wind almost the entire way...and during that i expended a bunch of energy cursing the wind loudly and calling its parentage into question...so all in all a fairly silly ride...and even worse,i didnt actually complete the ride i intended since the lure of food,and also having a tailwind,got me turned towards burrito-ville and thence,home...
    and so now,in a further display of strava based stupidity im gonna have to repeat the ride since i got within 7 seconds on the first segment,and a couple minutes on the longer one so i know im gonna try again and want to complete the route from dam to dam...

    anywho...yeah,its a great cross check/straggler route,about 75% bike path/ditch banks/river levee roads and pretty much flat the whole way so in general easy pedaling unless you're doing something silly like chasing strava records...
  • 05-04-2017
    Surly in OZ
    Hi Hamster, I was Strava Stupid for awhile as well, a near major crash chasing a KOM near home and a few rides were I was a bit of a Dick to other Mountain Bikers made me give it up. A first I thought it was only going to be a brief break, now I see life is a race to the finish line and I want to take the slowest trail to the end ;)

    Enjoy your time riding...
  • 05-04-2017
    hamsterspam
    oh i agree,that aspect of strava can be a bit silly and can be taken way too seriously,im mainly interested in keeping track of how many miles i ride a year,the whole kom thing is more of a lark for me since im well aware how meaningless they are except as a measure of personal progress...anyway,its amusing on occasion,sometimes its fun to go fast for no particular reason,but with summer fast approaching it will be time to slow back down and try and not get heat stroke!
  • 05-04-2017
    hamsterspam
    oh yeah,my new wheels should be ready this week...a set of red hope pro4's from my old krampus wheels,i gave the rabbit holes and a set of chronicles to a pugs owner so he could build up a krampug,a new pair of alex adventurer rims,the pair that came with my ogre that are on the cc now have thousands of miles on them with never a problem which is a good enough recommendation for me...and a good width if i want to use them on one of the other bikes that would take a wider tire...
  • 05-04-2017
    backcountryeti
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    digging the cross check.
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    Added some knobbies and new grips. I really dig this bike!
  • 05-06-2017
    hamsterspam
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    got my new wheels/tires in today...
    alex adventurer2 rims.hope pro4 hubs,dt swiss spokes and nipples,wtb riddler 700x45c tires...

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  • 05-06-2017
    dfltroll
    Your bike looks great. I got out for a 20 mile ride on my CC today, a mix of dirt, mud, pavement, a steady climb and a steep descent. I'm so glad I never parted with that bike after all these years. It'll be getting new tires in the next 2 weeks. Not sure if I'll go with Riddlers or Ramblers.

    I continue to think about building up a second one with parts I have laying around. I think I'm lucky that 60cm frames are out of stock. Also, I remain distracted by running for some dumb reason.
  • 05-07-2017
    hamsterspam
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  • 05-07-2017
    frozenmonkey
    If you were to single speed that tire rim combo, where do you figure the axle lands in the drop?

    Edit to add...can't find inner width on that rim? I ask cuz I'm on Schwalbe CX 38s on Mavic Open Pros and they're pretty squidgy if I push it in the turns. Trying to figure the maximum rim+tire combo that leaves healthy clearance. Really like the width and tread on that Riddler.
  • 05-07-2017
    hamsterspam
    that would depend on the gear of course...

    i dunno on the rim width but they are fairly wide so i would guess >25mm,the riddlers did good today aside from the valve stem going bad on me and then i cracked it trying to get it to stop leaking,but the tires did great on pavement,ditch banks,and a quick singletrack loop...plenty of cushion too...
  • 05-08-2017
    hamsterspam
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    took a bit of wrestling but i finally got the rear tire valve stem replaced and the tire set back up tubeless...

    and since it was clean again...

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  • 05-09-2017
    ___Nicholas
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    New tires arrived today (Panaracer Gravel King SK 40c). Excited to put them to use this weekend on a lengthy mixed terrain ride.

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  • 05-10-2017
    JAGI410
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    The daily driver
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  • 05-10-2017
    hamsterspam
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    ran across this handsome critter on the cc today..

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  • 05-11-2017
    cassa89
    I'll take snow and cold for 5 months out of the year just to avoid those! lol
  • 05-11-2017
    hamsterspam
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    I'll take snow and cold for 5 months out of the year just to avoid those! lol

    not a rattler...its a corn snake or something like that...although i dont remember eating any corn!
  • 05-11-2017
    hamsterspam
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    got out for a nice long ride today...basically a repeat or perhaps re-attempt at the ride i did last week since i had intended to ride further along the irrigation ditch on the outward bound leg,and then do the long pull from dam to dam along the river...#sandy's big dirty V....

    plus i found a much better spot for a break to eat and re-invigorate my mind...ahem...#bacon&waffles&dank....
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    see the mountain peak in the background? for some crazy reason matterhorn and i dragged our bikes up there,and for the creamy filling in the donut of madness that was that ride,we capped it off with 3 miles of push-wacking down the nastiest arroyo ive ever been in with a bike...
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    the rest of the ride was mainly on river levee roads..
    #take me vaguely in the direction of home,country roads
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    and a quick rest and medication....ahem,i mean meditation spot in a pecan grove...
    #alwaysstopforshade
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  • 05-13-2017
    Surly in OZ
    Hi Hamster, those look like great roads to ride on your CC. The bike looks like a street racer without the frame bag.
  • 05-13-2017
    Matterhorn
    Couple steps closer on my CC build today. Hampsterspam's over flow was kindly directed my way. As of today I've got wheels, cranks, seat post, brakes and levers, and pedals. Excited to rip those levees and dirt roads in Cone Country.

    Well done H-spam on the waffles and bacon. You always say you need to eat more--looks like more! Thanks for the parts.
  • 05-13-2017
    hamsterspam
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    Originally Posted by Surly in OZ View Post
    Hi Hamster, those look like great roads to ride on your CC. The bike looks like a street racer without the frame bag.

    yup,it was a perfect cc route aside from a few short sections that were pretty loose and minimal road time,once i got on the river roads it was nice and quiet and pretty good roads so i just ripped down that section

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    Originally Posted by Matterhorn View Post
    Couple steps closer on my CC build today. Hampsterspam's over flow was kindly directed my way. As of today I've got wheels, cranks, seat post, brakes and levers, and pedals. Excited to rip those levees and dirt roads in Cone Country.

    Well done H-spam on the waffles and bacon. You always say you need to eat more--looks like more! Thanks for the parts.

    waffles and bacon for the win! the waffles are great,easy to carry,about a gazillion calories and of course bacon is bacon...but the waffles,way better than those honey stinger waffle thingys...i could have eaten again on the way home and it would have been less grindy...im thinking baylor is gonna require 4 food stops...and im hoping packing the bike will make the hiking bits easier,and the rest i will be under-biking which is always fun...
  • 05-15-2017
    ___Nicholas
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    Had a great ride yesterday with my gf. We've made it a Sunday tradition to go on a longer mixed terrain ride usually stopping for food and some relaxation at a beach or lake along the way.

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    Little Snapchat story from the day:

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  • 05-15-2017
    jmeb
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    Just got done with the first little tour on the Travel Check. Was rad. Super glad to be rocking 38s and Jones bars. Gearing was spot on for this trip but may need to drop 2t on the front little ring for more hill intensive adventures.
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  • 05-21-2017
    hamsterspam
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    went for a fine cross check ride today...took a little road trip and climbed emory pass from hillsboro nm...a nice little out and back with a good size climb,then a ripping ride back down to town....2 hours up and a 1/2 hour back down...
    once again...#wafflesandbaconanddank ftw!
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  • 05-21-2017
    Matterhorn
    Looks great. Bummed I missed it.
  • 05-22-2017
    hamsterspam
    it was a proper mountain pass climb...great switchbacks and twisty bits,not too steep for the most part until right at the end...i managed to hover around 7mph pretty much the whole way up..im just happy i managed the climb in a single push...even rode back about a mile to let the boys catch up...however briefly...great descent,only in the 30's so it didnt feel too hairball...the riddlers really dug in quite nicely,and the brakes worked much better than i thought they might....and for sure i used the heck out of the 42 tooth cog,sure made the climbing tolerable...
  • 05-22-2017
    Larry Endomorph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hamsterspam View Post
    it was a proper mountain pass climb...great switchbacks and twisty bits,not too steep for the most part until right at the end...i managed to hover around 7mph pretty much the whole way up..im just happy i managed the climb in a single push...even rode back about a mile to let the boys catch up...however briefly...great descent,only in the 30's so it didnt feel too hairball...the riddlers really dug in quite nicely,and the brakes worked much better than i thought they might....and for sure i used the heck out of the 42 tooth cog,sure made the climbing tolerable...

    How many teeth up front? Thanks.
  • 05-22-2017
    hamsterspam
    its a 1x11 with a wolftooth 36 tooth oval up front so pretty much purpose built for easy climbing...and i certainly made abundant use of the sram double tap since it made it easy to transition from standing to seated climbing without breaking cadence...it was my first HC rated climb so im pretty pleased just to have been able to power it out without stopping...
  • 05-22-2017
    Surly in OZ
    Hi Nicholas nice looking ride.
  • 05-22-2017
    Surly in OZ
    HI James, thats a nice looking Check, I have Jones bars on my Troll and have wondered what the CC would be like with them, looks like a great setup.

    How long does it take to build up?
  • 05-22-2017
    Surly in OZ
    Hi Hamster, looks like a great place to ride. I googled up Emery Pass and found the New Mexico Touring Society page plenty of rides for you on there.

    Looking at the profile of the climb a 36 tooth was a good call.

    Enjoying your ride reports.
  • 05-22-2017
    jmeb
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Surly in OZ View Post
    HI James, thats a nice looking Check, I have Jones bars on my Troll and have wondered what the CC would be like with them, looks like a great setup.

    How long does it take to build up?

    Name's not James -- that's my dad ;)

    I dig the Jones bars on it. My first setup with them. Was a little nervous after the first week of commuting on them as I found myself only using the back position. Turns out though once headwinds kick up and pace gets faster that area position is super handy and comfy.

    Takes about an hour or so to build up. The benefit of S&S definitely isn't saving time compared to packing in a bike box. It's value is in the ease of moving around once you get to your destination, throwing it in the back of most any car, and checking it for free on the plane.
  • 05-23-2017
    jbass
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    Here's mine again, this time with drops. I've been through 4 different sets of flat and alt bars and I think this finally nails it for this bike for me.
    I was able to use all my existing 1x11 SLX mountain components and also my SD-5 v-brakes by going with the Gevenalle GX shifter: https://gevenalle.com/product/gx/
    Bars are Cowbell 3.
  • 05-24-2017
    subversion
    I ran Cow Bells when I had my Xcheck. Migrated to my Pacer & still loving them!
  • 05-24-2017
    jbass
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    I ran Cow Bells when I had my Xcheck. Migrated to my Pacer & still loving them!

    I haven't ridden drops in about 5 years, but I can already tell I really dig these. The bike feels like the handling is the way it was intended to be now. I'm dialing in the cockpit still though, just got a new seatpost today (Thompson, zero setback--definite improvement over the stock one that came w/the bike). Gonna take a little time for my middle-aged body to adapt to the more roadie position, having been in a pretty chilled-out upright position for the last few years on this bike, and then only on my MTB otherwise.
  • 05-25-2017
    subversion
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jbass View Post
    Gonna take a little time for my middle-aged body to adapt to the more roadie position, having been in a pretty chilled-out upright position for the last few years on this bike, and then only on my MTB otherwise.

    Yeah 48 years young here & I prefer comfort over aero too. :thumbsup: Got a stack of spacers under the stem to bring the bars & seat about level.... I like the way the Cowbells feel so naturally comfortable no matter where your hands are resting.
  • 05-28-2017
    hamsterspam
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    picked up a white industries eno hub for 70 bucks at a swap meet...brand new,never laced up so i got another alex adventurer rim and got a wheel built up...already have two w.i. dos enos,a 17/19 which i used here,and a 20/22 so it should still be able to carry a touring load with a change of freewheel and perhaps chainring...

    some salsa bars i had cut down a bit,cane creek flat top levers...i already swapped the front wheel for another adventurer rim with silver sides,the red hope wheels will go on the straggler now with the 1x11 setup..

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  • 05-29-2017
    hamsterspam
    no surprise,the cc makes an awesome ss...digging this flat bar setup as well,the cane creek levers add some appreciated power to the lever feel on the avid shorty cantis and the wider bar stance softens up the chatter on the ditch banks nicely...may need to swap out the stubby bar ends for a longer curved ones but over all it felt great...aside from someone forgetting to tighten the handlebar clamp!
  • 05-31-2017
    Surly in OZ
    "Hey come out of the shed with your hands up, put the spanners down..."

    Hi Hamster, my bikes go years between changes, yours seem to change weekly, and always come up looking great.

    Wonder what the CC will be next week, Hub gear, moustache bar racer?

    :)
  • 05-31-2017
    hamsterspam
    yeah,i have a slight problem in that regard....although of course i dont think of it as a problem,learned an awful lot about working on bikes with all the changes,and a lot about frame geometry,how putting the cockpit together affects the way the bike handles...all that sort of stuff...
    i was actually pretty happy with the "original" build,whatever that means coming from me...scoring the white industries hub is pretty much the only reason i changed it...the only thing i didnt like about the drop bar 1x11 build was the brakes,or rather how much hand power it took to work them...not that they lack braking power by any means,but my hands are pretty wrecked from 20+ years of rock climbing and working as a chef,so something like that half hour downhill on a twisty mountain road a couple of weeks ago had my hands and forearms pretty sore...so this flat bar version with the cane creek levers seems to work better for me...and the W.I. hub is like butter....

    and the beauty of having so many surly frames means most of the parts just swap right over to another platform...
  • 06-01-2017
    Surly in OZ
    Hi Hamster, would be cool to be that handy on the tools. I have four thumbs and short patience :)

    As for your braking I was running the same Avid's on my CC, was happy with them. They did not not play well with my new rims and I changed over to Shamino XT V brakes and the stopping power went through the roof. Much easier on the hands as well.

    Maybe next change :)
  • 06-01-2017
    hamsterspam
    i think i enjoy the process of building the bikes as much as i do riding them...at this point i have most of the basic tools,its only the more expensive bits like bearing presses and the like i dont have.... just about to look into getting a more complete set of hub servicing tools,i should have my matte emerald chris king hubs soon so certainly going to have to spring the 180 bucks for the hub service tools,and the bottom bracket grease injector...it never ends here!
    yeah,its one of those good/bad things...each hop up the upgrade ladder you see the difference...i thought the hope bottom brackets were pretty sweet,then i tried a chris king and was blown away by that "just that much smoother" feeling of it,same with the headset....same with hubs,the pro4's seemed like magic until i tried an industry9 and i expect the ck hub will also be mind blowing..and loud!

    i dunno,i know theres plenty of people who would think its crazy to hang a few thousand dollars of parts on a 600 dollar frame,especially when you consider the whole has 6 bikes thing,but im enjoying myself....
  • 06-04-2017
    hamsterspam
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    a little road ride today...35 miles and a couple thousand feet of climbing...

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  • 06-04-2017
    Matterhorn
    Okay now that it is SS and my back is closer to healed can I borrow the CC. Or maybe I'll jump in on the next road ride since you've got the Straggler too.

    Bike fever gets worse as ride time goes down.
  • 06-04-2017
    hamsterspam
    you will have to try it out,the bars are pretty low,i screwed up when i had the steerer cut and cant get a replacement fork until july...but that said it seems to work well in this configuration...i was wishing for gears at various points today...thankfully the straggler is set up with the 1x11...even added an oval 28 tooth ring for a kick down baylor pass bike...
  • 06-11-2017
    KeithG



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  • 06-14-2017
    ___Nicholas
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    From this weekends ride:

    New saddle and wedge bag on the CC

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    Fuel before the ride

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    Fun time

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  • 06-14-2017
    dfltroll
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    Originally Posted by ___Nicholas View Post
    From this weekends ride:

    New saddle and wedge bag on the CC

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    Fuel before the ride

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    Fun time

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    Heading down the backside of Conzelman! That's a good place to see how your brakes are working. The CC is the perfect bike for the Marin Headlands. I'm an SF native although been in Portland for past 10 years. I miss the Headlands. I had my CC down there with me on a visit in 08 and was kicking myself for not getting one sooner.

    Your set-up looks great. Cowchipper bars?
  • 06-15-2017
    hamsterspam
    i think those are woodchippers...
  • 06-15-2017
    dfltroll
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    i think those are woodchippers...

    Hmmm. I had the Cowchippers on my Vaya a while back and they just never felt right. But then again, the Vaya never felt right. I'm glad to have sold it although I still have the Cowchippers. They may migrate over to my LHT or CC at some point.
  • 06-15-2017
    hamsterspam
    i like the woodchippers,the flare on the drops is just right for going downhill on trails,gives you something to push against when out of the saddle,and they are plenty comfy on the road...
  • 06-15-2017
    ___Nicholas
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    Originally Posted by dfltroll View Post
    Heading down the backside of Conzelman! That's a good place to see how your brakes are working. The CC is the perfect bike for the Marin Headlands. I'm an SF native although been in Portland for past 10 years. I miss the Headlands. I had my CC down there with me on a visit in 08 and was kicking myself for not getting one sooner.

    Your set-up looks great. Cowchipper bars?


    Yep good ole Hawk Hill! Cruised down Conzelman to Rodeo Beach then climbed Miwok Trail and bomb down Old Springs trail. I've been doing this loop, starting in the Outer Sunset, every couple of weekends.

    I'll be in Portland this weekend but without my bike unfortunately.

    The bars are Cowchippers. I am loving them. The drops are pretty long which puts the bar end shifters in a really comfortable spot.
  • 06-15-2017
    dfltroll
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    I'll be in Portland this weekend but without my bike unfortunately.

    I'll actually be in Surlyland (Minneapolis) this weekend. And without a bike. Enjoy your trip to Portland. I don't know about SF but here in Portland there are so many Surlys. I went running after work last night and counted 6 Surlys over the course of a 2 mile run--4 CCs and 2 LHTs.
  • 06-15-2017
    ___Nicholas
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dfltroll View Post
    I'll actually be in Surlyland (Minneapolis) this weekend. And without a bike. Enjoy your trip to Portland. I don't know about SF but here in Portland there are so many Surlys. I went running after work last night and counted 6 Surlys over the course of a 2 mile run--4 CCs and 2 LHTs.

    Yep, I live in Oakland and I spot about 8 Surlys an hour when I am hanging by Lake Merritt
  • 06-21-2017
    SteveJfromtheSwitch
    hey brains trust, so i'm going with shimano 105 5700 brifters on my bike, changed up from bar end shifters and v-brakes. looking for options on brakes. not a big fan of cantis so looking more at mini v brakes.
    my research leads me towards TRP CX9's but not sure on how much clearance i'll get. I normally run about 38mm commuter tyres and the biggest would be Gordon rock n roads.
    will these work ok? any other brake options i should be considering?

    I had run CR720's in the past but they never seemed to set up very well
  • 06-21-2017
    azer89
    TRP CX9 should be good enough, I have Tektro RX6 that is cheaper. Both CX9 and RX6 have 90mm arm length, and there's enough clearance for 35mm tires with 50mm fenders.

    Assuming you don't install fenders, there's no problem to worry even you have 40mm tires.

    Here's a list of v-brakes on the market:
    Tech Tip: V-Brake Arm Lengths | GRAVELBIKE

    Another option I really like is paul minimoto but they're out of my budget and I don't know its compatibility with wide fenders
  • 06-21-2017
    SteveJfromtheSwitch
    thanks for that mate, yes when i run the RnR's i don't use fenders, only for commuting with the Marathon Mondial 40mm's. I checked my current v-brakes and they are 110mm arms with plenty of room above the fender for the cable.
    would a 95mm arm length still work on with 105 brifters?
  • 06-21-2017
    dfltroll
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    Originally Posted by SteveJfromtheSwitch View Post
    hey brains trust, so i'm going with shimano 105 5700 brifters on my bike, changed up from bar end shifters and v-brakes. looking for options on brakes. not a big fan of cantis so looking more at mini v brakes.
    my research leads me towards TRP CX9's but not sure on how much clearance i'll get. I normally run about 38mm commuter tyres and the biggest would be Gordon rock n roads.
    will these work ok? any other brake options i should be considering?

    I had run CR720's in the past but they never seemed to set up very well

    Why not go with Paul Mini Motos? Pricey but nice and supposedly set up easily. I have Paul Touring Cantis and they're nice but I regret not getting the Mini Motos.

    https://paulcomp.com/shop/components/minimoto/
  • 06-21-2017
    SteveJfromtheSwitch
    thanks for that, i ended up sticking with cantis, went Tektro CR720 up front and 710 up the back. i'll put on some Koolstop pads, i really don't want to be left short with clearance, i do like plenty of clearance there.
  • 06-22-2017
    Surly in OZ
    Hi mate, maybe to late but I just put a set of Shamino XT v brakes on my CC and they are the ducks nuts. So much power and easy to feather. Worth thinking about.

    OZ.
  • 06-22-2017
    azer89
    I own deore v-brakes with kool stop pads, the stopping power is nice. They're long pull though.
  • 06-22-2017
    SteveJfromtheSwitch
    yeah Deore v brakes is what i have now, but i really want to get rid of my bar end shifters. hence the cantis.
  • 06-22-2017
    hamsterspam
    the avid shorty ultimates worked well with the SRAM brifter although i will say i like the brakes better with the cane creek flat bar levers but i think thats mainly a singletrack issue and not being used to riding drop bars off road...they are hella expensive though,and the xt's cost like 1/3 as much...
  • 06-22-2017
    dfltroll
    I rode my CC into work today and then meandered home through Forest Park. There's a steep stretch down Springville Rd and I gotta say, I'm really happy with the performance of my my Paul's cantis. They're certainly better than the Tektro c720s or whatever I was running. The CC with Knards seems like the perfect set-up for Forest Park. Now that the park has dried out, I'll have to make better use of it.

    Steve, I really think you should consider the Paul Mini Motos for your CC. I've heard nothing but good things about them, easy set-up and work well with SRAM and Shimano integrated shifters. When I got my cantis it was because I felt they played better with fenders and large volume tires. Universal sells them for a reasonable price.
  • 06-22-2017
    SteveJfromtheSwitch
    i appreciate the advice but i just can't fork out that sort of coin for the Paul items (as much as i would like to). AUD is crap and it would end up costing me almost $400 AUD for a pair shipped from Jenson.
    For $80 AUD i can get front and rear canti's and a tektro fork mounted hanger. I already have the Kool stop pads to suit too. I'm just hoping if i spend the time to set them up right, they should work as good as all the other reviews i've read :)