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    New question here. Adventure Bike on 2014 Surly lineup maybe?

    At first I'm sorry if my english is really bad. I've read about new fat bikes for 2014 and 2 new bikes coming.
    Would be nice ad Adventure Bike like the Salsa Fargo in Surly line up.
    Could be this one of the two new coming?
    What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAGI410 View Post
    Every Surly bike is an adventure bike!
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    I'm guessing another entry for the "29+" platform? Maybe a touring oriented 29x3 that is designed to hold a campsite's worth of equipment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAGI410 View Post
    Every Surly bike is an adventure bike!
    That was my first thought.
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    It would be nice to see, and it would hopefully be a bit cheaper than the Fargo. The Ogre, I think, is fairly similar to the Fargo, but designed for flat rather than drop handlebars. I've called them flat/drop cousins of each other.

    One thing I actually prefer about the Ogre (and I myself am a Fargonaut) is the rear dropouts. I want to run an internally geared hub, but the Fargo has vertical drops. The horizontal drops of the Ogre, or even Salsa' s own Alternator drops (as on the El Mariachi) would make this much easier.

    If I had it to do over again, I may have gone Ogre, but I didn't have a shop in town with any in stock, and a pretty little Fargo was staring me in the face for months.

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    650b all-mountain monster touring drop-bar specific machine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron_sparthan View Post
    At first I'm sorry if my english is really bad. I've read about new fat bikes for 2014 and 2 new bikes coming.
    Would be nice ad Adventure Bike like the Salsa Fargo in Surly line up.
    Could be this one of the two new coming?
    What do you think?
    A Surly Pugsley with a second 29+ wheelset is a great adventure bike. It will go anywhere a Fargo will go and a lot of other places.

    If you don't want fat tires the Ogre is Surly's equivalent to the Fargo.

    I'm not sure what else you'd want in an "adventure bike" that the two options above don't offer already?
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    Probably 2014 new coming could be ( about me of course):

    - An All Mountain 29er Hardtail like new Niner ROS9 or Kona Honzo
    - A new Instigator 29er or 27,5"
    - An Adventure Bike like Salsa Fargo with shorter top tube and new geometry
    - A Pacer disc
    - A 29+ touring/adventure oriented.

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    There's no way around a disc CC this year.
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    When do the 2014 model bikes start to roll out?

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    I don't know how they could make any more "adventure" bikes. They seem to have every possibility covered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dankilling View Post
    650b all-mountain monster touring drop-bar specific machine!
    Isn't that what a 26" LHT disc is when you do the 650B swap? I've even seen it done with cantilevers.
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    Hmmmm

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    ^ aww c'mon now, I was enjoying all the guessing

    Those mini-Knards look awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by XJaredX View Post
    Those mini-Knards look awesome
    I had seen pictures of the frame (the Straggler?) but not the tires. Cool.
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    Does anyone with a good eyeball know about what the measurements of that green bike might be? Obviously I don't expect you to quote millimeters, but does it look more like a Crosstrek geometry or or a LHT?

    At first I thought it to be a 700c LHT with disk brakes. Unsure though.
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    Click the photo and look at it on Flickr in its largest size. You can view the rear dropout which is interesting. I'd bet it has the same geometry and sizes as a Cross Check. It does have a fair amount of braze-ons which is cool.

    I'm super stoked on that tire and hope it'll be available sooner rather than later.
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    I think a disc Crosscheck is definitely in order (and apparently happening as per above). I wouldn't put a disc Pacer on the list of priorities personally.

    If Surly can shoehorn a little extra tire clearance on the Ogre I don't think another 29+ bike is necessary personally, but maybe that's just because it's not as much my area.

    I would still really like to see a "Sport Trucker" come out with XO1 geometry (basically a LHT with relaxed road geometry and lighter tubing). I really think there's good market for a fun, agile 26" road bike that can fit 2" tires. Or there should be!
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    You can put drop bars on an Ogre, just get a short riser stem.
    I'd say go with On One Midge bars. I'd even say go with a Troll so you can go anywhere in the world and not worry about replacing that 700c wheel.

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    If the 29x3.0 knards are 29(+), are those 700x40 knards 29(-)?

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    +1 on this, I've been thinking along similar lines. Thorn has the Raven Sport Tour which is kind of like this, but saddled by the Rohloff-only setup. And it's quite expensive for a Taiwanese frame. The Handsome XOXO doesn't run big enough for me

    Quote Originally Posted by LostBoyScout View Post
    I would still really like to see a "Sport Trucker" come out with XO1 geometry (basically a LHT with relaxed road geometry and lighter tubing). I really think there's good market for a fun, agile 26" road bike that can fit 2" tires. Or there should be!
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    The 41mm Knards should be useful - if they're not frighteningly expensive.

    Personally, the change I'd like to see most on the CC is a longer front centre, so less foot overlap with the front tyre; I'm about to sell one due to this. Lighter, livelier tubing would be nice too. Otherwise the new frame looks interesting and should sell well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by satanas View Post
    ... Personally, the change I'd like to see most on the CC is a longer front centre, so less foot overlap with the front tyre; I'm about to sell one due to this. Lighter, livelier tubing would be nice too. Otherwise the new frame looks interesting and should sell well.
    My CC has annoying toe overlap also. I'm thinking of trying Soma's upcoming low-trail fork when it comes out. That should push the front tire about 2 cm farther forward than the stock CC fork. Other than increasing the fork rake and reducing the head angle, I'm not sure how to reduce the toe overlap problem without making the TT longer. And my CC's TT is as long as I can manage comfortably.

    And yes, I'm well aware of the debate over low trail vs high trail geometries.

    Just what is that green frame that jesusburger posted?

    And the Sport Trucker idea is pretty cool too. I have an XO-2 that's way too small for me. I keep eyeballing it and wishing it were bigger.

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    It will be interesting to see just exactly how the Soma forks come out, i.e., axle-to-crown, offset, brake type, etc. I could really use one (or more) with 1" steerers too. Even another 20mm of offset would still be marginal for me with the CC, though bearable. Another 10mm or so of top tube length would make me happy...

    BTW, apparently Salsa are meant to be releasing details of their 2014 stuff from July 22, and since Surly are also part of QBP they will probably do something similar. No doubt all will be revealed on the Surly blog in the next few weeks.

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