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    at 6'2" do I go 58cm or 60cm Crosscheck?

    Currently riding a Lemond Filmore in a 59cm which is close to the same geo of a 59cm Steamroller, and a 58cm Fisher Cronus. I'm looking at either getting another Steamroller in a 59cm or a Crosscheck because I like that I could put some Big Apples on it or run it 1x9 for better commuting/grocery getting.

    I was all set on the 60cm because the standover is not an issue and the top tube is only a smidge longer than the Lemond, but now I'm having my doubts. I also like the bigger headtube of the 60cm vs. the 58.

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    get the 60 or 62

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    Another vote for the 60. I'm 6'3" and ride a 62:


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    looking good, looking good! thanks yall
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    I have been through the ringer on this.. I'm also 6'2"... Ride a very comfortable 59cm Steamroller and love the way it fits... And was going to upgrade to a geared cross check but both a 58 and a 60 felt like a compromise one way or the other... The 58 was going to be MY final choice but to each their own... Although I love Surly bikes (I have a Steamroller and a Dummy) because the sizing is so weird for me on the cross check, Im thinking about getting a 59cm Handsome Devil instead of the Cross Check because it seems to fall right in between, geometry wise...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RekibTaf
    I have been through the ringer on this.. I'm also 6'2"... Ride a very comfortable 59cm Steamroller and love the way it fits... And was going to upgrade to a geared cross check but both a 58 and a 60 felt like a compromise one way or the other... The 58 was going to be MY final choice but to each their own... Although I love Surly bikes (I have a Steamroller and a Dummy) because the sizing is so weird for me on the cross check, Im thinking about getting a 59cm Handsome Devil instead of the Cross Check because it seems to fall right in between, geometry wise...
    dude! don't do that to me...it doesn't look like Handsome has any bikes to sell? I sent them an email, weird that they are in Minnesota as well...and it's very crosscheck-ish...hmmmm
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    I think April for availability.

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    While I 6'2... I went through a Surly sizing dilemma as well. I'm 5' 11 and I bought a 56 LHT, well right off the bat, I knew it wasn't the right fit. I tried to make it feel better by running a 70mm stem, but I could never get totally comfortable. I wish they made the LHT in a 54 (700c wheels), but they dont, so I switched to a 54 CrossCheck.

    While I'm a lot happier on the 54, it still feels big. I'm running an 80mm stem. If I didn't get toe overlap on the 52, I would be on that.

    Can you get a fitting before you buy the bike? I know at the shop I work at, any bike over $1000 we do a free full fitting before and after you buy the bike to ensure that the right size is purchased.

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    I'm 6'2" and change and have a 58cm that fits like a glove.

    Your build and riding style might be a factor. FWIW, I have a slightly long torso, but I come from a MTB background and don't like to be super stretched out over the bike. I could probably manage a 60cm, but it likely wouldn't be as comfy for me.

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    ^ what top tube length do you prefer on your mtb? I usually ride something close to 25"
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    6'3" with a 33" inseam and average length arms. i ride a 60cm CC and a 59cm Steamroller.

    the CC fits me well and i use it for racing, trailriding and general crusing.

    the steamer is for sale!!!

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    I'm 6'3" with more legs than torso. I ride the 62cm with a short stem when riding drop bars and a longer stem for flat bars. I have a BMX background so the stretched out roadie position is really uncomfortable for me. I could have gone with the 60cm and been happy I think.

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    I'm 6'2" with a 37" inseam. I ride a 62cm, with a 90 cm stem and 28 inch riser bars. It fits great, especially since I like the bars at seat height.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orkje
    I'm 6'2" with a 37" inseam. I ride a 62cm, with a 90 cm stem and 28 inch riser bars. It fits great, especially since I like the bars at seat height.
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    I'm 6'2' and have a 58cm CC with a 13 stem. It fits and rides wel but I'd go with the 60cm if I had it to do over.

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    I'm 6'5" with a 62 with a 130 stem.

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    60 cm ordered in black, should be here Friday. Stoked.

    Now, time to strip the Filmore down.

    Anyone riding creme tires on a crosscheck? Thinking about the 29x2 fat franks.
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    well, got my frame in and have a couple questions...

    I don't think the screws for the forward facing dropouts were included, unless I missed them in the box somewhere. Did anyone else not get these? What was your remedy? I know you can run without them, but I find them easier since I'll be going 1x9 or 1x10 most likely.


    Question 2, unless something has changed Surly doesn't frame save these puppies, is anyone running them as is? I'm just being lazy here, but it's cold and rainy here in KC and I don't really want to wait for it to be nice to start the build.

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    Mine came with screws, but I never use them. I like to use the full length of the dropout to run my various gear combos.

    No frame saver for me. By 2042 when it rusts out, I'll probably be ready for a new bike.

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    ^ want to mail them to me :-)

    thx for your reply..I'll post pictures tomorrow along with a frame & fork weight
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    This is a 2.0 Bontrager tire, I hope it fits in the rear as well. Front rim is an Open Pro, I haven't built up a rear wheel yet, but am leaning toward the Salsa Delgado vs. the matching open pro rim.

    It was also nice enough for me to get out and linseed the frame..or at least try. I don't know if the process is easier with real frame saver, but that oil is the worst...**** gets everywhere.
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    last update...

    weight for 2010 60cm frame is 2409 grams or 5.31 pounds
    new uncut fork w/ rack holes 1122 grams or 2.47 pounds

    I'm no weight weenie, just got a table top park scale because I sell a lot of stuff on eBay and people are always asking me weights.
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    Looks like it's coming together nicely! I'm leaning towards the Delgado rims myself for my Cross Check update. Especially since they are $30 each at Speedgoat right now.

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    Are Surly back to putting the FFF stickers on cross checks? When I bought mine few years ago mine was missing those, but Surly sent me some for free.

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    need some sizing help for a crosscheck

    I am going to order my Cross Check this week and I wanted some advice on the size. I am 5'8" 31'ish inseam and I am not sure if I should go 52 or 54 and I was wondering if anyone out there was about my size and could clue me in.

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    Edit: Decided the track crankset would likely cause some difficulties as it's meant for a 120 rear hub and I'm using a mountain 135. Snagged a 105 crankset in black on bonktown today for a bill.
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    Well, I did a mock up with the Bontrager 29-3 x 2.0 on the rear using my Stan's Arch 29er wheel (pretty wide for a cx bike) and it still fit well in the rear most position. Fit, but tighter in the front-most position but would probably rub in hard cornering situations. I'm sure this will improve with the skinnier Delgado rim (waiting on the shipment from Slowgoat). Pics tomorrow or the next day.

    Edit: Standover on a 60cm frame with the 29 x 2.0 is 34" + change...not a problem for me, but something to be considered.
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    Got the blue Brooks B17 in today, also stopped by the LBS and ordered some Woodchippers so I haven't cut the steerer or installed the star nut yet. Treefort order comes in on Tuesday

    Still need to find some 10 speed shimano bar cons...got some from eBay but they were beat up so I returned them...AND need to build the rear wheel, did that last night and noticed I used the wrong drive side spoke length and had to unlace it rookie mistake

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    Holy chit that looks good! Do you really have reasonable clearance with those 2.0's? Also, is that a pachinko?
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    Thanks! There is decent clearance, I'm on vacation and still need to build the rear wheel, but will post up pics when it is done.
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    I'd really like to know how wide the rims are with those 2.0s...I'm considering a pair of the 2.0 Marathon Supremes on mine. I've seen a fella's Cross Check on Flickr with Fat Franks on it, but he says the rims are under 20mm. I have Mavics that are about 24mm.

    Regarding the topic at hand, I'm 6'1", but with a fairly long 34.5 inseam. Mine is a 58. I think a 60 would possibly be better, but I already have some reach issues which I semi-solved with some Soma Sparrow bars. I'm kicking around getting a higher-rise stem, but I don't want to get it much more silly looking than it already is:



    Overall, it's a pretty comfortable bike for me in this setup, though a 60 would leave me with a little less exposed seatpost and steerer.

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    ugh

    this is the first short cage derailleur I've used and that little 105 looks streeeeetched out on the big-big (28/44) plus I think I cut the chain too short by a link (sized it and then moved the wheels all the way back...

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    Took it on the maiden voyage today. Just around town, getting the saddle right, and adjusting the derailleur a bit. This thing is fast! I picked up a new King rear hub on the classifieds for $160, had a King front wheel already...sweet ride. Tomorrow is the 44 mile gravel grinder..the real test!




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    Try to find one to test ride

    I'm 6'5 with a 35 or so inseam and ride a 62. I assumed by default this would be the best fit for me, but I'm convinced a 60 would work just as well or maybe better. I have a long torso so with the Surly geometry you would think a 62 would be perfect for me. I ride road bikes exclusively and don't mind being stretched out, but I still dropped 20mm off the stem. So if it were me, I would try to find a couple to check out. There is a google group of Surly owners that will let you try their rides out. If you would normally ride a 60, definitely get the 58.

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    Thanks, but uhhhhhhhhhh, if you read the thread or even just look at the pics, you would see that I already bought and built a 60cm. I love it and am appreciative of all the advice. The 60 was a great decision (for me).

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    AppleSSeed, I see you ended up with the 60. When you measured, did you take the larger tire size into account? Surly bases their measurements on 30C tires, and I'm probably going to put 40-50mm ones on there.

    Based on my current "road" bike, I was about to order a 60, but if I add 20mm to the standover I might need to go with the 58cm.

    Anyone else encounter this?

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    Standover was/is not an issue with me. My last bike was around 33.1 and I measure about 34" exactly on this one. I think my cycling inseam is like 36 or something close to that.
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