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    X0 2x10 22/36 and 24/38 chainring availability?

    Has anyone heard from SRAM when the 22/36 and 24/38 chainrings for the 2x10 X0 cranks are going to be available?
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    They will be available this summer on both OE bikes and in the aftermarket. Look for them in July.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bama
    They will be available this summer on both OE bikes and in the aftermarket. Look for them in July.
    Hopefully early, I could really use the 24t for the Downieville Classic climb. My puny legs are getting killed on steep climbs by the 26t!
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    Are they gonna be compatible with the 120BCD cranks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoahColorado
    Are they gonna be compatible with the 120BCD cranks?
    That's what SRAM is telling us. Supposedly, it's going to require an updated front derailleur due to needing to drop down a little lower...
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    26/39 rings are the smallest rings that will physically fit on the 80/120 bolt pattern. the 22/36 and 24/38 rings will be for a 64/104 pattern...therefore not xx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bama View Post
    They will be available this summer on both OE bikes and in the aftermarket. Look for them in July.
    So, it's July now...
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    Any word on that July release?

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    I'm waiting for this. I'm wanting to put this on my 29er build. 2x10 22/36 with bash guard.

    What's the latest rumor for release?
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    I've been looking for them in July. Nothing for sale in July.
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    QBP is saying not until mid-September for availability on either set-up.

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    Thanks for the information. QBP? What does that stand for?

    I guess I'll buy my drive line stuff now. I can't wait that long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie_yeti View Post
    26/39 rings are the smallest rings that will physically fit on the 80/120 bolt pattern. the 22/36 and 24/38 rings will be for a 64/104 pattern...therefore not xx.
    So I just bought a bike with X9 26/36 rings...would I be able to swap out for a 24/38 or 22/36 without buying a brand new crank set?

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    Universal cycles shows 38 and 36/22 Sram chainrings in stock. They are the 104/64 BCD though.

    http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...0&category=648

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerboyj17 View Post
    Universal cycles shows 38 and 36/22 Sram chainrings in stock. They are the 104/64 BCD though.

    http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...0&category=648
    22T are out of stock...
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    Trying to hold off new bike purchase for this (24x38 is ideal for me)... lack of info probably means 4Q?

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    The new ringsets come with a 64 104 spider with a sculpted outer tab that may or may not work with a bash guard however the rings could just as easily be used with the standard triple spider with a stepped outer outer tab for a bash guard or 44t outer ring
    http://WWW.bikeradar.com/news/articl...rst-look-31086

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    38T 120BCD from TA Specialites are also in the market!

    http://www.starbike.com/php/product_...lter_submit=GO

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    Should be by the end of the month..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessep View Post
    Should be by the end of the month..
    We've heard that before.
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    Sheesh. You'd think SRAM would chime in with SOME bits of info here. Heck, it's posted in their forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eds924 View Post
    So I just bought a bike with X9 26/36 rings...would I be able to swap out for a 24/38 or 22/36 without buying a brand new crank set?
    Yo only have to buy the Spider, unscrew yor and put the new one, its one of the amazing things of X0, X9 and X7 (just doble), you can use a bunch of spider also an spiderless chainring for Single speed, and also a BCD 130 and 110 chainring. I'm so interested in the new small chainrings if it's BCD 104-64 it will be Q'Rings compatible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerboyj17 View Post
    Universal cycles shows 38 and 36/22 Sram chainrings in stock. They are the 104/64 BCD though.

    Universal Cycles -- Sram X.0/X.9 GXP Triple Chainrings
    That's for triple.

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    They will be available September 12th!!! XO 22/36 and 24/38, also a spider for the s-works crankset will be available then to use with these rings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    They will be available September 12th!!! XO 22/36 and 24/38, also a spider for the s-works crankset will be available then to use with these rings.
    Do you know something about the bcd of the chainrings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryderman View Post
    Do you know something about the bcd of the chainrings.
    I would imagine they will be 64/104, considering that's what the sram ring on specialized 29ers are and 36/36 won't fit on 120

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    Thanks a lot, I was thinking about the possibility of an strange BCD (A.K.A. new BCD standard) I hope it will be 64-104, I just use QRings and then I'd had the chance to mount an 23-34 with their chainrings as soon a I can buy the new spider.

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    Can SRAM shed any light on the release for these chainrings?
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    Just saw this on SRAM's site:

    SRAM 2x10 Chainring Conversion Kit | SRAM

    Anyone know where/how to purchase a conversion kit?

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    QBP shows both in stock at the moment. Any local bike shop shuld be able to get them for you. They won't be cheap - probably in the $150 range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eds924 View Post
    Just saw this on SRAM's site:

    SRAM 2x10 Chainring Conversion Kit | SRAM

    Anyone know where/how to purchase a conversion kit?
    That one includes bashguard, I think the one you mean is this one: SRAM 2x10 and 3x10 Chainring Conversion/Replacement Kit | SRAM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryderman View Post
    That one includes bashguard, I think the one you mean is this one: SRAM 2x10 and 3x10 Chainring Conversion/Replacement Kit | SRAM
    That link does not list the 24/38 or 22/36 chainrings as options.

    I'm hoping the bash is removable from my original link. I guess we'll still have to wait for more details (still no images on the SRAM site).

    I'm wondering if the AM Guard is this:

    Stylo All Mountain Guards | SRAM

    (Also on the SRAM accessories page). If so, looks like it could easily be removed.

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    Looks like the XO GXP version is available now through QBP in a 24-38

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    Quote Originally Posted by THenne View Post
    Looks like the XO GXP version is available now through QBP in a 24-38
    As of today I sure don't see it (24-38) in QBP. Maybe I am missing something??

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    Quote Originally Posted by eds924 View Post
    That link does not list the 24/38 or 22/36 chainrings as options.

    I'm hoping the bash is removable from my original link. I guess we'll still have to wait for more details (still no images on the SRAM site).

    I'm wondering if the AM Guard is this:

    Stylo All Mountain Guards | SRAM

    (Also on the SRAM accessories page). If so, looks like it could easily be removed.
    Wooops... True, have dissapeared the tiny sizes, but I swear I've seen it 24-38 ans 22-26, I saw a press image and that's 104/64.

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    Pic of the AM guard with the new lower geared cranksets is here, on the SRAM 2x10 site.

    Gear Range | SRAM

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    Any update on ...........

    ......24/38 availability? Maybe Interbike?

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    I just bought a 29er with XO 26/39. Will I be able to swap the 26T for a 24T and continue to use the 39T with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkinnee View Post
    I just bought a 29er with XO 26/39. Will I be able to swap the 26T for a 24T and continue to use the 39T with it?
    Probably not. The BCD for the 26/39 is different than that for the 22/36 and 24/38. You'll probably have to purchase one of the conversion kits to get a new spider and 2 new chainrings. Plus, I'm not sure, but the combos SRAM lists are meant to be used together - not sure if 24-39 is too much throw (probably not), but SRAM might poo-poo the idea of mixing and matching.

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    Just checked the X9 page of the SRAM website, and see that they've updated the crank description with the new chainring sizes. So I"d guess it's gonna be soon that these will be available to buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empty_Beer
    A bike company should come out with a bike named after Mikey. the Santa Cruz Vandeman. That would pisss him off to no end.

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    Sweet. All the info I'm getting (from several sources now) is "after interbike" or "early October."

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    These will work with X7 also I suppose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bw_young View Post
    These will work with X7 also I suppose?
    It depends on the BCD of your cranks. From looking at the x7 stuff on SRAM's site, it looks like the setup is an integrated crank and spider - so if you have an existing 26-39 or 42-28, you likely won't be able to use the smaller chainrings, as the BCD is different (80/120 versus 64/104) - I think.

    I'm no expert, but am learning about this stuff as I go. Seems pretty straight forward, though.

    It does, however, look like SRAM is going to offer the x7 crank set in the full range of 2x10 options. So, if nothing else, you could buy a whole new, lower-geared x7 crank set...or it's an excuse to upgrade to an x9 crank set and have the option of swapping out spiders and chainrings.

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    I have the SRAM custom S2200 carbon crank on my Specialized Camber Pro. It is basically an unbranded X0 crank. The 38/24 64bcd/104bcd rings came on it. The rings however, are not X-glide. They do not have the x-glide ramps, pins and shift tabs like true X7-X0 rings.
    These new spider/ring upgrade sets look like they will be true X9 and X0 x-glide rings. I plan on buying the X0 set so I will then have the true equivalent of an actual X0 crankset. I'm hoping the actual xglide rings will make a difference as the chain likes to stick on the non-xglide rings from time to time and I have had 2 minor cases of chainsuck on my 3 month old bike. What I do know is that 2x10 systems depend on cable tension more than ever. My shift into the big ring was a bit hard on the trigger so I took some tension out of barrel adjuster and also changed chaing lube. The first 2 rides with less tension and the new lube I had the chainsuck. So...went back to Triflow and added back all the cable tension at the barrel adjuster and no suck on yesterdays 12.5 mile ride.
    I upgraded to the standard SRAM X0 S3 dmd mount front derailleur geared for 39/26. It shifs flawlessly so I would not see a need for the special 38t specific derail that is coming out. I see part of this as marketing hype. The only thing bad I can say is about the cheap non-xglide rings but the new upgrade kit will take care of that and I'll be able to shift under load alot better and not have chain suck to deal with.

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    X0 and X9 Rings will be available Sep 28th

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    X0 and X9 Rings will be available Sep 28th
    Awesome! Where did you find that little piece of info if you don't mind me asking? So one more week of waiting until I can place my order!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJM0031 View Post
    Awesome! Where did you find that little piece of info if you don't mind me asking? So one more week of waiting until I can place my order!
    I called SRAM

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    What about complete cranksets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikin View Post
    I'm waiting for this. I'm wanting to put this on my 29er build. 2x10 22/36 with bash guard.

    What's the latest rumor for release?

    It's been available since 2010...Link
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    Quote Originally Posted by arashi View Post
    It's been available since 2010...Link
    The links to Shimano, this thread is for "X0 2x10 22/36 and 24/38 chainring availability"
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    Also after the X0 2x10 36-22 too for my 29er build. Hope they release the dedicated front derailleur soon as well as wanting one of them as well
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    Those look like the conversion kits to convert the 80/120 BCD stupid @ss 2x10 cranks they sold you to the old and smart standard of 64/104 BCD.

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    XO - 24/38t w/Guard (Black) on sale now:
    Universal Cycles -- Sram XO & X.9 Chainring Sets with Guard
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    Been looking all over the net for a complete XO 22/36 crankset but have had no luck. Gonna inquire at the LBS tomorrow to see if they can order one. Anyone have any luck?

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    I ordered some new ergon grips from my local shop last week, and they were also going to check with their supplier on when the new X9's would be available, but I haven't been able to get back there to follow up. Probably stop by tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dereknz View Post
    Also after the X0 2x10 36-22 too for my 29er build. Hope they release the dedicated front derailleur soon as well as wanting one of them as well
    Would the current front derailleur not work well? I saw on SRAM's website that they were gonna offer the dedicated F derailleur, but what's the difference from the current one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbk99 View Post
    Would the current front derailleur not work well? I saw on SRAM's website that they were gonna offer the dedicated F derailleur, but what's the difference from the current one?
    No idea. I see no where on the net where they say a dediacted F derailleur is required. I'm doing a new bike build with all new parts so if the dediacted F derailleur 36T comes out around the same time as the 36-22 crankset I'll be getting one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dereknz View Post
    No idea. I see no where on the net where they say a dediacted F derailleur is required. I'm doing a new bike build with all new parts so if the dediacted F derailleur 36T comes out around the same time as the 36-22 crankset I'll be getting one.
    I've been running the 38/24 combo for months with the standard X0 FD spec'd to handle the 39/26 tooth combo.

    Specialized spec'd most of their bikes with the setup in 2011. They put the carbon SRAM S2200 carbon crankset which I have (its the X0 carbon arms etc. but the rings are cheap non-xglide with only 1 shift ramp and pins on each side.)

    No issues with the derailleur. The cheap rings themselves have been the culprit and that it why I ordered the true X0 X-Glide ringset) Specialized also offered a 36/24 ring setup on the Enduro in 2011 and they used the same SRAM FD's with no issues I've heard of. BTW I have the 38/24 with the same bash that comes with that kit.

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    Guy at the shop said 2-3 months!!! before the new cranksets should start filtering their way into shops. Perhaps he heard wrong and it's 2-3 weeks, but that's probably wishful thinking.

    Hopefully they'll show up online long before that.

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    Im using SRAM S2200 carbon crankset as well , running on 38/24 , would i be able to use the 36/22t with a 11-36 cassette ? anyone can advise ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikzzz View Post
    Im using SRAM S2200 carbon crankset as well , running on 38/24 , would i be able to use the 36/22t with a 11-36 cassette ? anyone can advise ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikzzz View Post
    Im using SRAM S2200 carbon crankset as well , running on 38/24 , would i be able to use the 36/22t with a 11-36 cassette ? anyone can advise ?
    You may however benefit from the new 36 tooth specific front derailleur. The standard SRAM front is for up to a 39 big ring but 36 is getting a little down there. It shifts fine with then 38 big ring. After putting about 100 miles on the new bike with the s2200 I concluded the rings are where specialized chose to save money. They are heavy and non xglide.
    Just take into account your bike, terrain u ride etc. The 36/22 combo is advertised for use mainly on a 29er or a true all mountain bike where you have long sustained climbs to get to long downhills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJM0031 View Post
    You may however benefit from the new 36 tooth specific front derailleur. The standard SRAM front is for up to a 39 big ring but 36 is getting a little down there. It shifts fine with then 38 big ring. After putting about 100 miles on the new bike with the s2200 I concluded the rings are where specialized chose to save money. They are heavy and non xglide.
    Just take into account your bike, terrain u ride etc. The 36/22 combo is advertised for use mainly on a 29er or a true all mountain bike where you have long sustained climbs to get to long downhills.
    Thanks for the heads up actually I'm advised to go for a 22-32t 11-36 by my lbs for our steep short to mid climbs and short downs though. oh btw I'm on a 26 not 29er

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    22 - 36 on a 26, you'll barely be moving if you have to use that gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    22 - 36 on a 26, you'll barely be moving if you have to use that gear.
    I agree. 22 is too low for a 26 inch wheel. SRAM is suggesting that 24 be used for 29ers here: Gear Range | SRAM
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    hmm what do you guys reckon ? stick to the 24-38 that i have or i could do a 36-24 instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikzzz View Post
    hmm what do you guys reckon ? stick to the 24-38 that i have or i could do a 36-24 instead
    I'd say stick with what you have. Good top end with what you have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikzzz View Post
    hmm what do you guys reckon ? stick to the 24-38 that i have or i could do a 36-24 instead
    How much uphill walking are you doing with your current setup?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dereknz View Post
    How much uphill walking are you doing with your current setup?
    tbh local trails here tends to have heaps of uphills and pretty much kinda steep , im fine with the 24 for the hardest climbs , i tend to stick to 38 more on the flats and easier climbs

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    38/24 X0 Photos

    Here is the un-boxing photos for my X0 38/24 set. As I predicted the rings and bash are mounted on the recessed 3x10 spider labled as a GXP 2x10. The rings do appear to be the actual x-glide rings. The recessed milling on the large ring is now polished like the X0 rings that come on the cranksets. However, X7, X9 and X0 cranks all share the same darn rings and what the extra price comes down to is apparently a ligher/stiffer spider and somewhat lighter ring set. The set is feather-light. Picked up the package when I got home and felt as nothing was in it. In the box is the ring set (comes pre assembled with the bash) and the 3 mounting bolts to attach the spider onto the SRAM crank arm. Here are the photos!! Gonna mount these suckers this weekend.
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    Available as complete crank?

    Congrats on getting the rings. Can't wait to see the photos of them installed.

    Does anyone know if SRAM will be selling cranks with the new chainrings as a set, or if you have to buy a whole crankset just to get the new chainrings? I want to upgrade to an X9 crank but don't want to have to pay for two sets of chainrings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tooberand View Post
    Congrats on getting the rings. Can't wait to see the photos of them installed.

    Does anyone know if SRAM will be selling cranks with the new chainrings as a set, or if you have to buy a whole crankset just to get the new chainrings? I want to upgrade to an X9 crank but don't want to have to pay for two sets of chainrings.
    Yes, they will be; the new chainring options are already listed under their respective product pages. As I posted earlier though, my local LBS told me it might be 2-3 months before they filter out to the shops though. Hopefully, he's wrong, and they'll be available sooner, at least online.

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    I hope the bolts work without the bash mounted

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    they don't

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    Is there any big major difference between the X0 and X9 conversion kits?

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    I just bought some new but second hand S-2200 cranks (24-38 +bash) on a bit of a whim as I was planning on getting X0 Silver cranks with 22-36 rings for my 29er.

    I was told that the 22-36 and 24-38 will not be available pre-fitted to the cranks and will only be available as a modification/upgrade hence me thinking that this could become very expensive having to buy rings I don't want.

    Also, as the spider with the kits is black, there's little point in buying the X0 silver crankset (which tends to cost a bit more).

    However I hadn't realised the S-2200 rings are inferior.

    I was planning on fitting an MRP X2 chain device so would be removing the bash guard. Will I still be able to use the bolts from the chainset and if not, what do I need to get?

    Why they can't just sell the 22-36 and 24-38 as fitted options on X0 sets and with or without the bash I don't know.

    Also (edited to add) do you know if the rings would fit the existing S-2200 spider? I'm just thinking that it's possible they might allow you to buy the X0 and X9 rings individually at some point given that these things wear out at different times and it seems unlikely that you'd have to buy them and the bash every time one ring runs out.

    And following on from the above, would they fit the existing 26/39 spider but without the bash of course?
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    I've now pretty much sorted everything I think and will confirm once everything's arrived and fitted so I'm sure.

    The S-2200 cranks arrived. Although I was planning on using the 24/38 rings that came with them, I really want to try 22/36 and also the supplied rings are also inferior quality to X0 (as said above).

    So I didn't really want to order the rings, spider and bash as a kit as I already have a suitable spider and, as I will be using a chain device, also already have a spare bash so don't need another.

    I've ended up ordering 22t and 36t X0 10 speed rings separately and a downhill single ring chainring bolt kit which SRAM advised includes spacers needed due to the spider being a triple with the bash/outer ring not fitted.

    I was going to get the Truvatic X-Guide but as it's not going to be available for a while I've ordered an MRP 2X instead (which is the same).

    I have an XX high clamp front mech and SRAM confirmed this will work but that the X0 mech spefically designed for 36/38t rings would shift better (FDX07600 in my case) so I've ordered one of those and will sell my XX mech.

    If it all fits and works correctly I'd be happy to provide part numbers if anyone is interested.

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    FYI Update

    FYI...since getting and installing the new rings in late Sept. I just had to back out the chainring bolts and re-torque them. I was getting a single "click" at the top of each left pedal stroke when standing and climbing. Chased it down to the big ring chainring bolts. Looked up the torque specs for SRAM aluminum bolts (about 80 in./lbs max). They were way way to tight from the factory and were clicking. Backed them all out and re-tightened correctly in a star pattern with my torque wrench...click is now gone...

    How bout some rep power for all the past photos and info???...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJM0031 View Post
    I have the SRAM custom S2200 carbon crank on my Specialized Camber Pro. It is basically an unbranded X0 crank. The 38/24 64bcd/104bcd rings came on it. The rings however, are not X-glide. They do not have the x-glide ramps, pins and shift tabs like true X7-X0 rings.
    Quote Originally Posted by TJM0031 View Post
    Here is the un-boxing photos for my X0 38/24 set. As I predicted the rings and bash are mounted on the recessed 3x10 spider labled as a GXP 2x10.
    So, TJM0031, the spider in your new X0 38/24 kit is the triple spider relabeled? with a triple-like chainline (narrower than a double one)?
    And what about your old S2200 spider and rings? was it a triple spider too?
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by savo View Post
    So, TJM0031, the spider in your new X0 38/24 kit is the triple spider relabeled? with a triple-like chainline (narrower than a double one)?
    And what about your old S2200 spider and rings? was it a triple spider too?
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    That is correct. The only way to run the 2 rings with a bash is on a 104/64 bcd bolt pattern which is essentianlly a 3x10 spider/ring spacing with the bash taking the big ring's place. The normal x9/x0 2x10 cranksets are sold w/o bash guards and the rings are on a different spider and spaced on a 120/80bcd bolt pattern.

    However, you can purchase the upgrade kid and it will fit on any x9 or x0 crank arm. There are only 3 torx bolts that hold the ring set onto the drive side arm. SRAM cranks are the easiest to pull and work on IMHO.

    And yes...the S2200 had the same bolt pattern. See my pics from earlier in the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJM0031 View Post
    That is correct. The only way to run the 2 rings with a bash is on a 104/64 bcd bolt pattern which is essentianlly a 3x10 spider/ring spacing with the bash taking the big ring's place. The normal x9/x0 2x10 cranksets are sold w/o bash guards and the rings are on a different spider and spaced on a 120/80bcd bolt pattern.

    And yes...the S2200 had the same bolt pattern. See my pics from earlier in the thread.
    Perfect.
    Another question, maybe you or someone other knows the answer:
    Sram is producing for 2012 the cranckset in 38.24 configuration (and I think also 36.22), 2x10 w/o bash guard. Do they use a different spider or is again the 3x10 104/64 bcd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJM0031 View Post
    That is correct. The only way to run the 2 rings with a bash is on a 104/64 bcd bolt pattern which is essentianlly a 3x10 spider/ring spacing with the bash taking the big ring's place. The normal x9/x0 2x10 cranksets are sold w/o bash guards and the rings are on a different spider and spaced on a 120/80bcd bolt pattern.

    However, you can purchase the upgrade kid and it will fit on any x9 or x0 crank arm. There are only 3 torx bolts that hold the ring set onto the drive side arm. SRAM cranks are the easiest to pull and work on IMHO.

    And yes...the S2200 had the same bolt pattern. See my pics from earlier in the thread.
    That's kind of lame.

    I know the 2x10 normally shift very, very smooth. So will the 2x10 +bash conversion make it feel/shift like any other 3x10 then?

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    Well I just got my X0 38/24 chainring with guard in today. Got it for $115 off of ebay.











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    anothonylokrn,

    Nince pictures. Any chance you weighed the old 39/26 rings vs. the new bash guard/38/24? I am curious as to how much weight, if any, you gained. Also, did you purchase a new front derailleur and did the new set up adversely affect your chainline?

    Sorry for all the questions but like you I want the smaller chainrings and I want to go in to it with as much information as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldryder View Post
    anothonylokrn,

    Nince pictures. Any chance you weighed the old 39/26 rings vs. the new bash guard/38/24? I am curious as to how much weight, if any, you gained. Also, did you purchase a new front derailleur and did the new set up adversely affect your chainline?

    Sorry for all the questions but like you I want the smaller chainrings and I want to go in to it with as much information as possible.
    Thanks.

    I never got around to purchasing a gram scale yet, so sorry, no weight comparison.

    I am currently awaiting for my frame to arrive, so I cannot answer in regards to the chainline. I do have a X0 front derailleur direct mount on order for the new frame though.

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    I have a scale coming in probably sometime next week. I'll post up the weight difference then.

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    Thanks. I'm not necessarily a weight weenies but since it does not appear that SRAM is coming out with a direct, 2 chainring/no bash guard conversion for the 120 bcd cranks, I am seriously considering going your route. I want to know what the weight penalty is, if anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldryder View Post
    Thanks. I'm not necessarily a weight weenies but since it does not appear that SRAM is coming out with a direct, 2 chainring/no bash guard conversion for the 120 bcd cranks, I am seriously considering going your route. I want to know what the weight penalty is, if anything.
    196g for the 39/26 chainring.
    224g for the 38/24 chainring with guard.

    So overall 28g is not too bad to have a bash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonylokrn View Post
    196g for the 39/26 chainring.
    224g for the 38/24 chainring with guard.

    So overall 28g is not too bad to have a bash.
    Thanks for taking the time to weigh the parts. You are right that 28g is not bad, especially considering that the way I ride (lack of finess) a bash guard is a very good idea.

    Thanks again!

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    I am ordering a X.0 BB30 38/24 crank and my Jet 9 RDO has an XX LDM S3 bottom pull front derailleur meant for 39 teeth. Does anyone have any experience with this or a similar setup? - will the chainring shifting be reasonable without a dedicated derailleur for 38 teeth? I can't find out if SRAM will provide the new derailleurs for my mounting specs. Thanks all.

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    dabrt43,

    Wish I could help you. I've not yet had a bike that required a direct mount FD so I've not had to fiddle with one. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbart43 View Post
    I am ordering a X.0 BB30 38/24 crank and my Jet 9 RDO has an XX LDM S3 bottom pull front derailleur meant for 39 teeth. Does anyone have any experience with this or a similar setup? - will the chainring shifting be reasonable without a dedicated derailleur for 38 teeth? I can't find out if SRAM will provide the new derailleurs for my mounting specs. Thanks all.
    Been running the standard 39t X0 front derailleur (mine is also an s3 bottom pull dmd model) with the 38/24 ring combo. Pretty much most Specialized bikes came stock that way last year like mine did. Front shifting cannot get any better IMHO. Don't see the need for the dedicated 38t front derailleur. No issues here...

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    That is great news. Finally a modification that doesn't have numerous and expensive consequences. thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJM0031 View Post
    Been running the standard 39t X0 front derailleur (mine is also an s3 bottom pull dmd model) with the 38/24 ring combo. Pretty much most Specialized bikes came stock that way last year like mine did. Front shifting cannot get any better IMHO. Don't see the need for the dedicated 38t front derailleur. No issues here...
    It can get better. Go ride a epic 26(26/39 rings) you'd be surprised how much better the shifting is

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    Is the 38t ring available in x-glide just by itself that will fit a s2200 with 38/24 standard rings?
    If so, can someone give me a link where?
    THANKs!

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    24/38 XO now available as a crankset. Had to have local shop call SRAM to get the QBP catalog number, not listed in their catalog tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fungusmud View Post
    24/38 XO now available as a crankset. Had to have local shop call SRAM to get the QBP catalog number, not listed in their catalog tho.
    Is it 104 or 120 BCD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fungusmud View Post
    24/38 XO now available as a crankset. Had to have local shop call SRAM to get the QBP catalog number, not listed in their catalog tho.

    X9 also. My LBS got a 24/38 for me last week and he ordered through QBP. Got one ride on the full X9 set up before the rains set in but shifting was great.
    It's such a fine line between idiocy and genius.

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    I've ordered a new bike, a Grand Canyon 29 AL 9.9 SL (can't post link due to not enough posts, but their site is: canyon.com) that comes with a S2210 crankset with 22/36 chainrings, but would like to change them with a 24/38 set. Is it only available with the bashguard option? If so, will this in any way affect the chainline or cause problems for me? (Since from my understanding this is actually a 3 ring set up with the bash in place for the biggest ring).
    Not 100% sure if it is a 36 or 38 teeth specific FD, but was told that I could mount a 38 ring, but no bigger. Will a 36 teeth specific work with a 38 chainring or vice versa? Or are there other direct mount FD that maybe is fitted?

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