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    WANTED: 10-Speed GripShift XX / XO (i.e. GripShift, the origins of SRAM)

    WANTED: SRAM – please make a 10-speed XX/XO GripShift. GripShift is the cornerstone of SRAM. If you abandon it for triggers only, you’re basically saying the Big S was right all along. TWISTIES Please....

    Hoping for a reveal at Interbike 2010.

    [Yes I know there is a guy in Europe converting 9-speed XO GripShift to 10-speed....but I want the real thing]

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    Listen! Ten speed gripper..............NOW!!!

    10 speed grippers are a must or my bikes will remain 9 speed...

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    I will not go10-speed unless we get twist shift. SRAM if you want my money you have to make it happen.

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    Me too.

    I know the mfg's do not spec bikes with twist shifters, but seems like a big aftermarket audience. Can't believe it is that hard to alter the throw length on twist shifters to make them work.

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    Also staying with 9 speed here until 10 speed grip shifts are available.

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    No 10 speed grippers and I also stay with 9 speed.
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    No gripshift, no 10 speed for me.
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    hey listen SRAM! - my patience us up too - 10 speed twistshifters @ interbike or i'll send the posse over

    if no new shifters soon - i will only purchase shimano components in future
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    2x10 twisties!!!

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    Ditto!

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    Keep posting SRAMers...... We can win if we stand strong....

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    This seems like an everybody wins situation if they come out with twist shifters.

    I have only seen one quote from SRAM on this, and it was they are Not going to bring out 10speed twist shifters. Not enough demand and incompatible with some brake levers.

    Hope they are reversing that statement, but have not seen anything to indicate that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbdcd
    This seems like an everybody wins situation if they come out with twist shifters.

    I have only seen one quote from SRAM on this, and it was they are Not going to bring out 10speed twist shifters. Not enough demand and incompatible with some brake levers..
    Without a link to this statement, it's totally worthless...
    Hope they are reversing that statement, but have not seen anything to indicate that.
    I hear ya there

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    Listen! Sram

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Pay
    SRAM please read this....


    That's a long read but it only shows the demand for 10 speed grippers
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    10sp Gripshift Twister Shifters

    SRAM we need 10sp Gripshift shifters please!

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    I would go 10 speed if I there were 10 speed grip shifters out there. Until then im 9 speed

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    I'm using the cheap SEC version, and need the originals made by SRAM before mine are destroyed

    please!

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    2X10 by grip shift please. I'm holding out on my 2X9 setup till you make it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Pay
    Without a link to this statement, it's totally worthless...

    I hear ya there
    It was when SRAM first came out with XX, i believe an interview in VeloNews. Doubt you i can find the interview at this point. So will have to stay worthless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbdcd
    It was when SRAM first came out with XX, i believe an interview in VeloNews. Doubt you i can find the interview at this point. So will have to stay worthless.
    from my post on http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...11#post7108911

    http://www.bikerumor.com/2010/06/10/...new-dh-cranks/

    SRAM Press Camp Rumors #2 and #3 - Ten Speed Twisters and new DH Cranks
    posted by Tyler (Editor) - June 10, 2010 - 10am EDT

    "Ever since SRAM came out with trigger shifters, it seems they’ve been slowly putting more emphasis on them with OEM placements and now with the 10-speed systems. I asked why the new 2×10 groups went solely with trigger options, and here was the response:

    “You’ve gotta start somewhere,” says Chris Hilton, SRAM product manager. “Triggers are an extremely precise system, they integrate really nicely with the brakes, particularly with our Matchmaker set up, and the ergonomics and adjustability are really good.”

    Of course, there are those of us that long for top-level twisters to make a comeback, and there are top pros like Julien Absalon (pictured, older photo when he was still running twisters) that, as Hilton put it, have “requested, not demanded” them. So, are they coming? So far, comments around the press camp indicate so, ranging from:

    “They’re aren’t any out in the wild. Well, not any you’re going to see.”

    “It’s something that’s in the works.”

    …and similar such things. No timeline so far, but we haven’t had the first real tech session yet either."

    ..................................................

    it's time to deliver the goods Chris Hilton - we're waiting...

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    What the caveman said.

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    +1000 i wont be going 10 speed without having twisters, if you (sram) come out with them ill order them in a mila-second
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    culturesponge,
    Thanks for the info



    OMG, females do FART ....So 10 spd gripper are possible
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails WANTED: 10-Speed GripShift XX / XO (i.e. GripShift, the origins of SRAM)-niceass3.jpg  

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    Nice fart box....

    PLEASE keep postin' about your want for the 10 speed grippers
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    Please,

    10 speed twist shifters please. I've been a twist shifter for 13 years now. Please SRAM, don't break the streak!

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    Me and a friend of mine are using twisters for quite a while now und both of us don`t upgrade to 10speed until there are xx-twisters available. Just ordered a new 9speed xtr cassette in order to use it with my x.0 RD, twisters and my new xx-spidered Specialized cranks.

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    10 speed twisters needed! Or else I probably go shimano in future or stay 9 speed for as long as possible, shimano not better than trigger but cheaper here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbdcd
    incompatible with some brake levers.
    the irony is that this is the case with their own Elixir levers at least in the carbon version and part of the reason I got rid of the brakes and not the Gripshift.
    Anyway, I'm all for continuing in the Gripshift tradition so count me in.

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    10 speed twisties... lets get it done Sram.
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    I don't want 10spd grip shifters. I want xx cassettes under $200.

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    Then you're posting in the wrong thread.

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    Listen! Start a cassette pricing thread...

    I'm sure there are others that would agree with you

    Quote Originally Posted by snowdrifter
    I don't want 10spd grip shifters. I want xx cassettes under $200.

    THANKS.

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    I ride Gripshift since the early - mid 90'th. Tried some STI's, Rapidfire, Dualcontrol and Triggers and come always back to Gripshifters, so please Sram: continue with Gripshifters!
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    I've been using GripShift since the early 90's. I'm finally getting a new bike soon that will have a 2x10 X0/X9 setup. I'll try to get used to the triggers, but will probably switch to twist shifters if/when they are available.
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    I will never upgrade to 10spd if no gripshift !!!!!

    MAKE GRIPSHIFT !

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    SRAM,
    Are you starting to get the BIGGER picture?
    Example: (After market units)

    No grippers = 5000 front / rear dérailleurs / chains and cassettes not being sold..
    No grippers = 25,000 front / rear dérailleurs / chains and cassettes not being sold..

    How about 100,000 10 speed groups not being sold,
    all because you wont do 10 spd grippers..

    Sure, it's your call...

    PS. And don't forget about your cranksets
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    Here-here. If there are no 10sp twisties I will delay switching to a 10sp drivetrain as long as possible.

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    On board 9 speed until 10 spd twisty comes...

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    Wake UP SRAM.....
    These are your fans posting their wants and needs...

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    I plan on switching to 10 speed sometime soon (1x10 ). No gripshift = no sram for me.
    Shimano triggers are nicer, IMO.

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    Look people, a hundred people on mtbr isn't enough demand for them to tool up to offer twist-grip shifters for 10 speeds. The 9speed versions sell poorly as is, the last thing they want to do is lose more money on another version. The only reason SRAM ever got sales for gripshifts in the first place (because compared to shimano, the things sucked until after they bought Sachs out and got their shifter designs and tooling) was because shimano stopped offering seperate shifters and brake levers. Once shimano began offering seperate shifter pods again, gripshift sales began falling. And that's why SRAM had to respond and did so with their rapidfire-like shifter pods.
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    Well, I am going to chime in and say the same as many here. 10 speed twisties need to happen. Just make them at the XX level and no where else as the current offerings all weigh the same anyway.

    I will not go 10-speed until this happens. I will hoard all the 9-speed stuff I can and hold out.

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    Listen! Show SRAMs sales records.........Can't do it...eh

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight
    Look people, a hundred people on mtbr isn't enough demand for them to tool up to offer twist-grip shifters for 10 speeds. The 9speed versions sell poorly as is, the last thing they want to do is lose more money on another version. The only reason SRAM ever got sales for gripshifts in the first place (because compared to shimano, the things sucked until after they bought Sachs out and got their shifter designs and tooling) was because shimano stopped offering seperate shifters and brake levers. Once shimano began offering seperate shifter pods again, gripshift sales began falling. And that's why SRAM had to respond and did so with their rapidfire-like shifter pods.

    Why don't you just sit back and let us see what we can do...

    Don't be a Nino

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    You want SRAM to offer it, offer to pay for the tooling yourself and personally guarantee the 10,000 units or so that they'll need to move to justify the effort.
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    It's not about the tooling cost because they do plan to release them. It's more the fact that they don't want to rush them onto the market without them being an improvement on the current 9 speed design. They want them to work better, be lighter and be smaller. This thread isn't needed. They know there's demand. They just aren't ready yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight
    You want SRAM to offer it, offer to pay for the tooling yourself and personally guarantee the 10,000 units or so that they'll need to move to justify the effort.
    How many times has this ever happened with a new/modified product? Maybe zero?

    I wish Shimano had taken this approach with dual control/rapid rise! I might still be using Shimano.
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    I want me some 10spd grip shifters!
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    Ban Dee8 and bring Nino back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowup
    the irony is that this is the case with their own Elixir levers at least in the carbon version and part of the reason I got rid of the brakes and not the Gripshift.
    Anyway, I'm all for continuing in the Gripshift tradition so count me in.
    I was running Elixir CRs with X0 gripshift w/o issue. What problems were you guys having?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbdcd
    How many times has this ever happened with a new/modified product? Maybe zero?

    I wish Shimano had taken this approach with dual control/rapid rise! I might still be using Shimano.
    Or shimano airlines... sometimes listening to a few wackos can cost a company a LOT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -dustin
    I was running Elixir CRs with X0 gripshift w/o issue. What problems were you guys having?
    There have been problems with the latest generation of avid disc brakes leaking and generally poor performing. My local shops which previously LOVED avid brakes have had a hard time even clearing out the current models at heavily discounted prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dictatorsaurus
    Ban Dee8 and bring Nino back!
    they're never bringing him back, get over it already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -dustin
    I was running Elixir CRs with X0 gripshift w/o issue. What problems were you guys having?
    I found that even with the levers adjusted all the way out, there still wasn't enough clearance between the Gripshift and the inside of the lever for me to comfortably shift without scraping my knuckles. And no, I don't have Gorilla knuckles to my knowledge.
    It would appear there just isn't enough 'bend' or 'sweep' to the lever for me to be comfortable.
    I've since gone to XT's with no clearance issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbdcd
    Not enough demand and incompatible with some brake levers.
    Blödsinn!

    Anyway, I would have upgraded already, if there were a 10-speed grip shifter from SRAM.
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    Anyone order the custom modded XO gripshift from Europe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocheese
    Anyone order the custom modded XO gripshift from Europe?
    Yes ....But I want mine made by SRAM
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    By the same token, gripshifters can't be used on many alternative bars because they lead to problems with the brake lever placements (or they outright won't fit onto the bars), not to mention when SRAM's own brake levers don't mesh with twist-shifters properly, well... its either lose the brakes or lose the shifters... and for OEM buyers, which is what SRAM depends on and always has, it was simpler to lose the shifters.
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    One more vote for twist.

    This winter I'll be replacing my drivetrain and if there's no 10spd twist them I'm going with 9 again.

    I've tried the X9 triggers for 1/2 a seasson and while they're not bad, they're not as good as twist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight
    By the same token, gripshifters can't be used on many alternative bars because they lead to problems with the brake lever placements (or they outright won't fit onto the bars), not to mention when SRAM's own brake levers don't mesh with twist-shifters properly, well... its either lose the brakes or lose the shifters... and for OEM buyers, which is what SRAM depends on and always has, it was simpler to lose the shifters.
    you really have be an all knowing smart arse don't you? why are you adamant on derailling this thread - for your ego?

    really? all of SRAM's brakes don't "mesh" with twist shifters? i call BS on that!

    like your signature we (other mtbr members) don't play well with morons either - so please back away from this thread if you have nothing but "nino-ism's" to err, contribute

    ...by the way DeeEight take a look over your garden fence (it might do you some good), there is more than the North American market for twist shifters aka gripshifters - they are far more popular in Europe than stateside

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    Quote Originally Posted by culturesponge
    you really have be an all knowing smart arse don't you? why are you adamant on derailling this thread - for your ego?

    really? all of SRAM's brakes don't "mesh" with twist shifters? i call BS on that!

    like your signature we (other mtbr members) don't play well with morons either - so please back away from this thread if you have nothing but "nino-ism's" to err, contribute

    ...by the way DeeEight take a look over your garden fence (it might do you some good), there is more than the North American market for twist shifters aka gripshifters - they are far more popular in Europe than stateside
    You nailed it. Dee8 is nothing but a moron who doesnt know what to do with himself without Nino to stalk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dictatorsaurus
    You nailed it. Dee8 is nothing but a moron who doesnt know what to do with himself without Nino to stalk.
    Bingo

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    If they were more popular there, then SRAM would have released info about 10 speed twisters at Eurobike last month... but did they? Nope. I have sachs twisters on a couple loaner bikes, 8 and 9 versions, for certain users fine, easier to handle... the ones who can't get their minds around pushing levers and pulling triggers. But if there was real demand, real tangible worth the tooling costs demand... sram would have released a twist-grip shifter with the XX group.
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    you really have nothing valid, useful or enlightening to contribute to this thread except the same old dreary nino-ism's

    i'm going to add you to my ignore list

    ...aah that's better
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    I'd like to see the 10 speed twist!
    **** Looking for a Sram 9.0SL rear hub *****

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    You should probably add an ESL course to your to list also, given that you cannot even spell ignore properly.
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    <sigh>

    If Sram don't offer 10 speed twist shifters I'll be using Shimano...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight
    You should probably add an ESL course to your to list also, given that you cannot even spell ignore properly.
    You know you're getting frustrated when you start picking on someone's spelling...you're a sad case.

    BTW, There's a difference beween a spelling mistake and a typo!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by culturesponge
    you really have nothing valid, useful or enlightening to contribute to this thread except the same old dreary nino-ism's
    I am actually starting to feel sad for D8. His only friend can be found in a mirror and even that may be highly
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    Quote Originally Posted by NVIbex
    I am actually starting to feel sad for D8
    me also, glad i didn't have to go though university with only tiny text on an dark iphone

    ...................................

    thank you

    but please do me a massive favour and edit your post without pic of my frame ect - lets keep this 10 speed SRAM Twist Shifter thread right on track

    .................

    hello SRAM & thanks for reading this thread. please lets have a brief press release about your companies progress with 10 speed twist shifts aka gripshifters - thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by culturesponge
    i'm going to add you to my ignore list

    ...aah that's better

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    culturesponge,

    Done deal

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    I've been running XO grippers since 05'...

    No problem when used in conjunction with Avid Juicy 5 / 7 and Carbon levers...

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    I bought my first MTB in 1988, a smoked over Diamond Back Apex. The bug set in pretty quickly and when Specialized introduced the M2 Stumpy (the red one with yellow lettering that Ned was on) I snatched one up as a frameset. The build included my first set of GripShift. I have been on them ever since - so around 1990(?) on. That's about 20-years. Bikes have come and gone, but my GripShift have been consistent. I used the Shimano compatible version up until SRAM introduced the XO and have been pure SRAM ever since. I've evolved...6, 7, 8, 9-speed - and so have the twisties. Now evolution is stuck.

    I'm not opposed to change, however, there are qualities of the twisties that I really like. Hands remain fully wrapped around the bars while riding, no need for opposable thumbs, lighter, very reliable, low profile. I'm hoping SRAM just prioritized with the XX thumb shifters and will eventually come out with a 10-speed version of GripShift. For now I'll stick with my 9-speed version and give 'em some time to work on it. Hopefully this thread helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by endure26
    Hands remain fully wrapped around the bars while riding
    I always laugh at that reason for twisters... I've ridden with nothing but thumbshifters for a decade now, and they require you to not only move your thumb, but to move it over the bar, and I've never gone out of control while shifting in all that time.

    no need for opposable thumbs
    Yeah cause there's such a high demand for dogs and cats to use bicycle shifters... the whole lack of opposing thumbs....

    lighter, very reliable, low profile
    The lightest twist shifters have tended not to be very reliable. SRAM's lightest offerings, the SRT-800 Xray models were just garbage in comparison to today's X.0 units, but they also weighed a third less than today's models. The SEC twist-shifters are lighter still (typically half the weight of SRAM models) but have severe issues with dirt contamination, though they are already available in 10 speed 2:1 derailleur compatible versions, and 1:1 compatible models are said to be coming. As to low-profile, depends on the model... the current SRAM models are much bulkier than the earlier efforts in the early to mid 90s. They also take up much more handlebar space than other shifter types, as well as can present complete incompatibility issues with various grips, brake levers, and handlebars.

    The actual leader in lighter, very reliable, and low profile was and continues to be, thumbshifters. And thanks to Paul's thumbies mounts, we can have them in 10 speed versions for SRAM, Shimano and Campy drivetrains (hell 11 speed for campy) today and at weights far better than SRAM twisters. Its a shame really that we're now a couple generations on from the heyday of thumbshifters and there's millions of riders who fail to understand what they've been missing out on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight de Nino
    I'm not interested in your thumbshifters...

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    I'm pretty sure the entire market for new grip shifters has posted in this thread. All of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RecceDG
    I'm pretty sure the entire market for new grip shifters has posted in this thread. All of you.

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    Is that so?

    Did Julian Absalon post here? No, he ran X.0 Twisters after many of Sram's other racers went to XX. I'm sure he wants twisters for his XX bikes.

    I know that Cannondale used X.0 twisters for OEM in Europe. There are people who post here who are from Europe, but not nearly as many as there are on other boards. You also have not accounted for the amount of people that dont post in forums, here or any other. I know many cyclists that dont post anything on boards.

    I don't think anyone here can accurately project the twist shifter demand. The only people that can do it correctly work for Sram, these are the people have access to sales numbers for the 1:1 Twisters.

    I have faith in Sram to bring them out, its been said before that they want to get it right the first time. Many of the top level racers want them, which means that Sram will have a place to endlessly test their product like they always do. Remember how long the Pro's had XX before it made its debut? We saw hundreds of pictures of prototypes and pre production models with the XX logo's covered by electrical tape. To think that that stage is only the final of many in a prototype to production process indicates to me that there was months of design and testing that never made it to the public eye. I like to think of Sram as a company similar to Apple Computer. We hear rumors and may see a few prototypes, but the final product is still a mystery until the official release.

    I think they will come, the question now is when.

    I know I will be buying XX as soon as twisters are available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocheese
    Anyone order the custom modded XO gripshift from Europe?

    Link please?

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    Look for eliflap (I think that's the user) in the weight weenie forum. Also he has videos on youtube of them. Each one is hand-machined and I believe you have to send him your shifters first. He's essentially doing them custom, one at a time. Also they only work with the 1:1 derailleurs so not any good for people with XX or 2011 X0/X9/X7 drivetrains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Couloirman
    Link please?
    Email this guy and he will send you the info. princo500@hotmail.com

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    As well as all the other perfectly valid reasons to use twist shifters, I like them because they don't require significant thumb strength - unlike other shifters.

    Having sprained both thumbs skiing on multiple occasions this is a big deal for me, especially on long/technical rides. While thumb-shifters work and are light, they still need more strength at places in my range of motion that add up to discomfort after a while; IMO the Suntour (and Mavic?) under-the-bay Y-shifters were the best iteration of these, but they are of course now long extinct. I do not like the Sram (or obsolete Shimano) push-push triggers at all.

    I also fully agree that Sachs-inspired twisters are better than the preceding ones!

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    No good SRAM turns their backs on us....

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    No good SRAM has given us the finger....

    No 10 speed gripshifters at Interbike...


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    I'm officially going to rip off the stock 10 speed on the giant and install my trusty 9 speed and grip shifters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dictatorsaurus
    I'm officially going to rip off the stock 10 speed on the giant and install my trusty 9 speed and grip shifters.
    I hear ya brother


    This one's for SRAM

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    My opinion. I do not believe they have any intention of ever making twist shifters for 10speed. If mfg's wanted them they probably would, but with just an after market audience, do not see them changing their tune.

    I think they believe the profit margins on the push lever shifters is much greater, make everyone use them. Kind of disappointing. When i go to 10 speed will probably use Shimano. Their new 10speed has the fast cable pull, so it should shift crisp like SRAM.

    Or use Thumb Shifters like D8.

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    My first experience with SRAM was back in 2002..I'd cut off a good part of my right thumb...
    Rocket grippers saved the day and my XT system was up and running..

    In 05' I went XO all the way and loved it...

    Needless to say there will be no triggers or thumbies in my future....

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    Maybe SRAM hasn't perfected the 2x10 grippers. Give it some more time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NVIbex
    Maybe SRAM hasn't perfected the 2x10 grippers. Give it some more time.

    Roll up a fatty and see what tomorrow brings
    Yeah, I'll chill and try a little patience...

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    Just stumbled across this thread, another vote here for 10sp twisties. I've been using them for years and I still prefer them to thumbs and triggers. Never had any issues with any of the discs I've used including XT, XTR, Juicy Ultimate, K24, Marta, Louise a few others I can't remember off the top of my head and my current R1's. To the other Big S, please bring them back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight
    Look people, a hundred people on mtbr isn't enough demand for them to tool up to offer twist-grip shifters for 10 speeds. The 9speed versions sell poorly as is, the last thing they want to do is lose more money on another version. The only reason SRAM ever got sales for gripshifts in the first place (because compared to shimano, the things sucked until after they bought Sachs out and got their shifter designs and tooling) was because shimano stopped offering seperate shifters and brake levers. Once shimano began offering seperate shifter pods again, gripshift sales began falling. And that's why SRAM had to respond and did so with their rapidfire-like shifter pods.
    100 people on MTBR = 10,000 worldwide

    I'll swap out my 8 speed gear for 10 if they build the twisty shifts!
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    I want some

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    Id buy a pair too.

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    Not only would I buy 10 sp gripshift, but thats the only way I will buy the 10 sp der, cass, and chain.

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    I would definitely pick up a set

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