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    SRAM's upcoming "XX" mountain groupset

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?...008/news/11-13

    Component manufacturer SRAM has announced a complete new high-end mountain bike groupset to be available mid-year 2009. Dubbed ‘XX’ the new group “will exceed the demands of the cross-country athlete through all-new technologies focused on precision, efficiency, and weight,” according to SRAM. Like the Red road group, it will be a true joint development between the SRAM, RockShox, Avid and Truvativ divisions.

    Beyond that, SRAM is keeping its cards very close to its chest to prevent a fast response from rival Shimano. Shimano is reliably reported to be developing a ten-speed mountain bike group in response to previous rumours of a new SRAM group.

    One reliable rumour, though, concerns comparison between XX and Shimano’s current top-end road bike groupset. XX will weigh, we hear, the same as the 2009 Dura-Ace groupset.

    Can't wait to see some SRAM mtb cranks and wheels.

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    ASAP, im getting it.
    i'll start saving now.

    im not going to say im excited, but if the Boner police are here, i demand a laywer!

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    lol midas - we were right !

    Should be interresting to see what comes about from it all.

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    Its too bad I just bought a new X.O RD, X.9 FD, and Noir crankset in the last couple of months. Wonder if Hammerschmidt will move to the XC side and eliminate FD. If not, an XX FD will be nice. I hope gripshift is not eliminated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Hol
    I hope gripshift is not eliminated.

    that would really surprise me. its so light id be surprised if thats NOT what the new shifters are a version of.

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    im just about to start my next build, and im not waiting for XX, the current highest setup will do me now.

    XX hmm ten speed mountain bike???? from a mechanics view i can see a fair few chains breaking

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    10-speed chains are holding up as well as 8 and 9-speed in cyclocross racing. Bring it on.

    My theory....Doubletap 10-speed shifters.

    My hope...the same cable pull ratio as the road groups so I can pair a XX rear der. with Force shifters on my cross bike.

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    http://www.ebikestop.com/sram_double...12.php?cat=620

    I believe that's exactly what you're looking for...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScaryJerry
    http://www.ebikestop.com/sram_double...12.php?cat=620

    I believe that's exactly what you're looking for...
    This is where the 10 speed mtb groupset comes from. Again, they better keep gripshift. Other rumors like a Powerdome mtb cassette would be cool in mtb ratios (especially if they are 9 and 10 speed). 10 speed might lead to the replacement of a 3x9 drivetrain w/a 42/29 and mtb 10 speed casssette.

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    There better be a powerdome 9 speed...

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    no powerdome 9-speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad
    no powerdome 9-speed.
    Have you seen the X.X?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Severum
    There better be a powerdome 9 speed...

    are you serious?!? it's called X.X, roman numeral , 10.
    I hope there is no 9 speed powerdome in the X.X line.

    10 speed cassette. not powerdome, but kinda like it.
    just wait til you see it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by amillmtb
    Have you seen the X.X?
    yes, and that's all I can say, wait, maybe I can't say that...

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    Just keep your eyes opened, many pros will be using X.X at tomorrow's World Cup...

    I wouldn't expect a Powerdome cassette though, they don't work well when it's muddy, mud cakes up and has nowhere to go so you get massive chain skips. On a regular cassette, the chain can push crap down between cogs. That's why SRAM's sponsored cyclocrossers don't use the Red cassettes...

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    check out canadiancyclist.com for photos. The Scott-Swisspower team is testing the XX and you can see the crankset and cassette. Absalon doesn't look like he used XX, however.

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    XX Crank/Front mech
    XX Cassette/rear mech
    XX brakes
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    i find it amusing they made him tape over all the logos.

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    i see that Truvativ still have not learnt how to build pretty cranksets...
    shame really, it's really takes a lot away from the rest of the kit

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    PS: Does anyone notice the "Shadow"ness of the new rear derailleur

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiffster
    XX Crank/Front mech
    XX Cassette/rear mech
    XX brakes
    36t rear cog.

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    also I must add my bitter disappointment that the shifter seen in PMB for the world cup was not a Doubletap but a 10s ESP trigger shifter

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    Good ! I wouldnt use double tap.

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    9-speed X.0 shifter? Brakes not matchmaker compatible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad
    PS: Does anyone notice the "Shadow"ness of the new rear derailleur
    Nope.

    the only thing you could possibly be talking about is that the cable anchor bolt is on the backside of the deraileur, and sram and SHI*mano put the anchor bolts in very different places.

    maybe you mean its a black&silver part thats cnc'd? in that case i got some Raceface cranks that look like a shadow deraileur too.

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    they already have flat bar double tap shifters. and does a single person here use them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikwashere
    they already have flat bar double tap shifters. and does a single person here use them...
    Yes, I have used the 9spd double taps. Used them for a couple of rides up and down the street, only to find that shifting up and down was way too slow to be used for mountainbiking, and it was very hard to get some lever feel regarding the gears you were shifting. I ended up selling them and switched back to X.0 gripshifts.

    Best thing was that they mounted more compact onto the handlebars, which is great if you don't have a lot of clearance between handlebar and toptube. Furthermore, the bolt for adjusting the shiftlever angle was on the outside, and not on the inside like on current X.0 triggers. In case your frame gets an impact from that bolt ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiffster
    Good ! I wouldnt use double tap.

    why not? I've just bought a set of the 10s DT flat bar shifters. Hoping to a squeeze a prototype 10s cassette out of the local distributors. They're working on a few.

    Whats the problem with DT? The shifting is fast enough for road biking which is plenty fast for MTB....

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    Just give it a try and let us know

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    Good, long post following this on the WW forum.

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