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    what pisses me off about my hardrock.

    Brakes, they plain suck

    i fixed it though, i put on BB7s.

    Front fork-

    worst thing in my life, small bumps bottom it out on max preload, dont even think about larger bumps

    seating position
    too relaxed, i ended up head over heals 3 times on a really rooty trail....time for new bars and riiser.

    ****ING DERAILEURS
    worst thing ever
    never wanted to stay in adjustment.
    I put 40 or so KM on the bike before i took it out then did a tune up.

    i hate the ghetto deraileurs, so i have some XTs on the way.


    other than that, it was a great bike. loved it lol

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    sounds like you should've gotten something on the higher-end of the scale.

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    now tell us what you like about it

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    The forks do suck, though it's a good excuse to swap them out for something better (Marzocchi MX Pro in my case). It's an entry-level bike though so I knew what to expect. I suspect 95% of Hardrock owners don't have a problem with the fork, as they don't do any serious off-road riding.

    The deraileurs were a bit of an issue, as were the brakes, but after booking it in to my LBS they said it wasn't the brakes or deraileurs at fault, it was the cable. They described it as the cheapest, nastiest looking cable they had ever seen, which meant it was constantly stretching and requiring adjustment. They swapped the cable on the rear deraileur and brake and I never had any more problems. Might be worth changing this when you put the XT on.

    I don't have the Hardrock anymore, but it's a good bike and got me into MTBing.

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    Ok
    what i like about it?
    it fits me perfect.
    i didnt want to spend more htan 500 on the base bike
    and higher end bikes multiply the price here in japan.

    I REALLY like the hardrock now that i have a better wheel/hub combo and the disk brakes.
    And i got a specialized BG seat today, and OH my god its fantastic.

    anyways, i plan on getting a FS bike this summer since there is a HUGE 3 hour Downhill trail RIGHT behind me house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by balling
    anyways, i plan on getting a FS bike this summer since there is a HUGE 3 hour Downhill trail RIGHT behind me house.
    Do you live at the top of a mountain??

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    about a 1.4 the way up yeah.

    next to Okutama mountain (if you know any trails in japan)

    I also love my crank brothers Mallet C pedals with shimano sandals...super duper cool

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    The hard rock isn't designed to do what you are describing doing. The Hard Rock is Specialized's entry level mountain bike. It's designed for riding fire roads at most, certainly not for bombing down downhill runs.

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    So you're saying a cheap, entry level bike isn't spec'd with race components ? This changes everything!
    :wq

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    nah, i knew it was gonna suck

    but you guys are spoiled in teh US
    you get badass buikes for hundreds, sometimes thousands cheaper.

    im building this up to be a baller ass bike. gotta do what you gotta do

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    Quote Originally Posted by balling
    im building this up to be a baller ass bike. gotta do what you gotta do
    damn dog, its a hard knock life dog. gotta stay straight up g. it aint easy in da hood ya no. sheeit. brush yo shoulder off player.

    Um, searching for more clichés...

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    could have been hilarious, but execution was horrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by balling
    could have been hilarious, but execution was horrible.
    That may be... but I did get you to use big boy words.

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    wouldn't you feel bad if english wasn't my first language

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    Quote Originally Posted by balling
    wouldn't you feel bad if english wasn't my first language
    Why should I feel bad? You sounded silly and I pointed it out. You should thank my ass.

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    It's a Hardrock life for us....
    Seriously though, Hardrock is a great bike for getting into the hobby and even though the parts can be swapped , the frame is great- mine survived Whistler - how's that for bragging rights. DAWG! Keep it real out in da field !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastale
    Why should I feel bad? You sounded silly and I pointed it out. You should thank my ass.
    Your right. I am truely glad that you enabled me to speak in a more intelligent way. It was you solely who turned my life around.



    Yeah.....not really though

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    Cool-blue Rhythm

    ummm... are we insulting a human or a Hardrock???

    well, my HR has lasted since '05... but I live in FL. Frame is pretty rugged but Alivio/Acera components blow... RST forks blow... Tektro brakes blow... Learning how to work on a bike and the difference between good and bad components w/out breaking the bank is what BEGINNING is all about...

    Swap out grips for ODI lock ons
    Swap out brakes for BB7's (RUN FULL CABLE HOUSINGS!!! especially in the mud)
    Swap out the front fork for something decent
    Swap out the Der's and shifters with SRAM X7 or better (install new cables)
    Avid SD7 levers
    Swap out crank when it craps out

    USE EBAY If you wanna save some $$GREEN$$ and can handle the installs...

    Swap out whole bike when you're ready (when you have the knowledge built up to make an appropriate decision...)

    Peace...
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    last part of the equation is fixed
    Revelation 426 coil uturn (i do alot of road riding so i wanted the adjustable ness fo travel for height)
    and a tool kit and stuff on the way

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    Quote Originally Posted by havnmonkey
    ummm... are we insulting a human or a Hardrock???

    well, my HR has lasted since '05... but I live in FL. Frame is pretty rugged but Alivio/Acera components blow... RST forks blow... Tektro brakes blow... Learning how to work on a bike and the difference between good and bad components w/out breaking the bank is what BEGINNING is all about...

    Swap out grips for ODI lock ons
    Swap out brakes for BB7's (RUN FULL CABLE HOUSINGS!!! especially in the mud)
    Swap out the front fork for something decent
    Swap out the Der's and shifters with SRAM X7 or better (install new cables)
    Avid SD7 levers
    Swap out crank when it craps out

    USE EBAY If you wanna save some $$GREEN$$ and can handle the installs...

    Swap out whole bike when you're ready (when you have the knowledge built up to make an appropriate decision...)

    Peace...
    not really too worried abotu the cost
    i bought the hardrock becuase i liked the frame, i was going to get hte Comp Disc, but it was on backorder for 3 months, and cost 240 more than the sport
    so i spend like 40 bucks more and get better wheels and brakes.

    first few trail rides, i felt the bike out and figured out what i didnt like, and what i wanted to change, and now, im changing it

    its pretty much a new bike now
    All i need is the drivetrain.

    not too expensive. I might grab a different frame soon, maybe a FS if i warrant it or something once everything is upgraded

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    wait on the frame for a while no sense in changing so soon... replace the crank/BB and cassette when they're done for... even low end drivetrain can last a bit and your replacement crank/BB, chain, and cassette will wear out too. Those are things better replaced upon necessity.
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    oh, it wont be until next year before i get a new frame most likely. (next year is soon lol)

    it also depends on if the wife allows me to

    but, im done spending money for a few months on the bike. I have to finish up a few other car projects, and buy some stuff for airsoft.
    So, it will have to do in its current state!

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    What brakes were the bike spec'd with? I have ran Hayes, bb5, and bb7 on the mechanical side. I dont care for any of the above. The BB7 is one of the better mechs though.
    Livin' the dream.

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    Bonking ... not feelin' well

    Hadrocks are good frames. But unless you buy a higher end model of the Hardrock, you'er stuck with the generic parts...
    aka: akfreeridemtber; brian_404
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian_404
    Hadrocks are good frames. But unless you buy a higher end model of the Hardrock, you'er stuck with the generic parts...

    yep it's amazing when you look back and say "Doh", I should've got a Rockhopper... and then you want a Stumpy... and then you want a freaking engine ...
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