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    New question here. Stumpy - Monarch Plus?

    Looks like a monarch plus will fit on a stumpy. Do you guys think specialized could order one or is this one custom?

    Specialized Stumpjumper Evo with Rock Shox Pike, Monarch ... | Bikes

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    looks like a stealth reverb as well

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    A few of the special Clevis shafts were made for some of the Specialized team riders who are sponsored by Rockshox. There are a hand full of them out there, but it wasn't a part available to the public.
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    I talked with my bike shop they said they could get me a monarch from specialized. I also have inquiry in with specialized faq.

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    here's another stumpy fsr with one

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    The plot thickens. I will post what I hear back from specialized and my dealer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpynerd View Post
    The plot thickens. I will post what I hear back from specialized and my dealer.
    Well I heard back from specialized faq pretty much said check with your shop to see if it will fit before ordering. Lame.

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    bah and here i was getting excited ( i want that ^^^

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    They (SRAM) just announced the Monarch plus to fit the Enduro and Stumpjumper 29 and 26, they are a few weeks away I think but they are coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floor Tom View Post
    They (SRAM) just announced the Monarch plus to fit the Enduro and Stumpjumper 29 and 26, they are a few weeks away I think but they are coming.
    Hey Floor Tom, where did you get the intel from?

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    yes curious about this intel !! do tell Floor Tom

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    another one


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    Im still waiting to hear back from my shop on the monarch. Anybody want to bug their local dealer and see whats up?

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    SRAMS parts catalog doesnt shine any light. Must be only a few elites that have access to the adapter from specialized

    https://www.sram.com/sites/default/f...pc_rev_a_0.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpynerd View Post
    Im still waiting to hear back from my shop on the monarch. Anybody want to bug their local dealer and see whats up?
    Just called our Specialized sales rep and asked about the Monarch. He said at this point he didn't have any info about a Monarch being available soon. The only thing he knew was the option for SRAM sponsored riders. It's certainly not something I could order right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpynerd View Post
    Hey Floor Tom, where did you get the intel from?
    Got it from the SRAM rep here in New Zealand, he sent out part numbers too but don't have them here as I am on holiday now, they said they were available to order but would be 6 weeks wait as they would not be stocking them, just ordering from SRAM directly as people ordered them from us.

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    Well here is what I heard from Sram via email.

    This is a custom shock only sold specifically to Specialized. We’re hoping to have it available aftermarket in the future, but we are working with Specialized on that at this time. Nothing has been finalized as of yet.

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    Just called sram service/tech department; if you want one you have to call Specialized and see if they will sell you one. We send the shocks to them and they set them up to fit their bikes. Bummer dude. Looks like my dealer will be calling Specialized and seeing if they can get one if they want to sell me a new Enduro. Would love to have RockShox front and rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie_MTB View Post
    here's another stumpy fsr with one
    I feel like this should be obvious to me, but for some reason, I have no idea which dropper post is on this bike. It looks like it is internally routed and has a setback saddle clamp. Any of you that can shed light on this? Sorry for the slight derail on this thread. A Monarch Plus would be a very sweet setup for a Stumpy Evo 2012 and up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laterilus View Post
    I feel like this should be obvious to me, but for some reason, I have no idea which dropper post is on this bike. It looks like it is internally routed and has a setback saddle clamp. Any of you that can shed light on this? Sorry for the slight derail on this thread. A Monarch Plus would be a very sweet setup for a Stumpy Evo 2012 and up.
    Looks like 1st gen command post with cable removed

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    Yes, I think so too. 1gen Command post without cable.

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    Back at work tomorrow, will get the SRAM part numbers for Sumpy and Enduro 26 and 29ers. I am going to order one for my E29

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpynerd View Post
    Well here is what I heard from Sram via email.

    This is a custom shock only sold specifically to Specialized. We’re hoping to have it available aftermarket in the future, but we are working with Specialized on that at this time. Nothing has been finalized as of yet.

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    Translation, we want to control the upgrade path on our bikes and don't want Sram selling directly to the customer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    Translation, we want to control the upgrade path on our bikes and don't want Sram selling directly to the customer.
    Sitting here at my desk banging my head on the keyboard. Not only do they want the control it really seems as they are just not listening to their customer base at all. I'm so glad to see I'm not the only one frustrated with very specific issues on the Stumpy. This $&t is getting old and making other options this spring so much more attractive right now. If I decide to get off of the 29 and go 27.5, no way in hell it will be a Specialized with the value's out there.
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    Part numbers are as follows, I have ordered one from the SRAM guys here in NZ. Not sure why SRAM here have made then available to pre order but not in the US

    Enduro 26 00.4118.038.005
    Enduro 29 00.4118.038.006
    Stumpy 26 00.4118.038.007
    Stumpy 29 00.4118.038.008

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    Are those part numbers for the regular stumpys or the evo models?

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    Sorry, Evo model only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floor Tom View Post
    Part numbers are as follows, I have ordered one from the SRAM guys here in NZ. Not sure why SRAM here have made then available to pre order but not in the US

    Enduro 26 00.4118.038.005
    Enduro 29 00.4118.038.006
    Stumpy 26 00.4118.038.007
    Stumpy 29 00.4118.038.008
    Sorry if I missed but how much are they?
    Can you post phone # for NZ SRAM. Since I'm in the US it looks like I'll have to go through NZ.
    Thanks

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    Interesting. So what year of stumpys do these monarchs fit? I got a 2012 26er stumpy comp that was converted to evo with evo link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floor Tom View Post
    Sorry, Evo model only.
    That's good news for me as I have an Evo 29. Shall we see NZ guys selling these to us Americans in the second hand market soon?? hint hint.

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    It doesnt matter. The shocks are the same size. The link is what makes the 2012-14 an Evo, not the shock size.
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    I'll check on retail price today, like I said earlier we have been told that there will be a 6 week wait for them so I imagine that SRAM will be selling them as well, if you do a little research I'm sure you can find the Nz SRAM number but they are like most wholesalers and will not deal directly with the public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floor Tom View Post
    I'll check on retail price today, like I said earlier we have been told that there will be a 6 week wait for them so I imagine that SRAM will be selling them as well, if you do a little research I'm sure you can find the Nz SRAM number but they are like most wholesalers and will not deal directly with the public.
    Thank you. Yea I will talk to my lbs about buying it through them

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    I cant imagine the monarch being more than $500. The rc3 go for around $480.

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    I just heard that they are shipping on March 17th. They are made for the Enduros and Stumpy Evos and have the auto sag feature built in. $536 MSRP

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaPooz View Post
    I just heard that they are shipping on March 17th. They are made for the Enduros and Stumpy Evos and have the auto sag feature built in. $536 MSRP

    13-14 Enduro 26
    13-14 Enduro 29 carbon and alloy
    12-14 Stumpjumper Evo 26
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    DaPooz do you know how\where to order one?

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    Any shop that has a Zipp/ Sram account should be able to order one.

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    Anybody here in the US wanna feel out their local bike shops? My local bike shop is saying they cant get the monarch plus. I might have to go to another shop 50 miles away.

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    Hey guys I havent had a chance to call another bike shop for monarch plus order here in US. Anybody got some new intel?

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    I talked to mine a couple of weeks ago in Las Vegas and was told that they were not available this year.....that was before I heard that guys in NZ were getting them. I may check again.

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    Release date is March 17th I think so maybe they can't order them until then. Get your LBS to quote the part number to SRAM and see what they say.

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    Wouldnt the clevis set up work for the 2011 evo sj?

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    Well my local shop called me and said they could get a monarch plus. LBS said it will be a couple of weeks before they can order it. Will keep you all posted.

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    stumpynerd do you have the contact details so i can pass them on to my LBS?

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    They just contacted SRAM about it. I sent you PM on my local bike shop.

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    Stumpy - Monarch Plus?-curtis-keene-650b-prototype-specialized-stumpjumper1.jpg

    Okay guys this is getting ridiculous yet another monarch photo but 650b stumpy spy shot.

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    That bike looks really good.
    I have a 2014 26" Carbon Evo Expert. All black, which I think is even sexier. And the little differene in wheelsize doesnŽt bother me.
    But IŽd take a Monarch shock as a spare for sure...

    The seat angle looks quite slack though!

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    Hey Znarf you cant getaway talking about your sexy bike without photo.

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    Stumpy - Monarch Plus?-sj-evo.jpg

    Ask and you shall receive!

    Changed the rear tire since taking the pic.
    Otherwise this thing rips out of the box!

    Love it.

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    Love the OG black look. What are you running for sag front and back? I just picked up pike for my stumpy. Started with 30% sag was too soft now running 25% front and back. With recent snow I havent been able to do much riding.

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    I think it feels best with a tad more pressure than what the autosag does.
    So right about 25percent feels spot on for me.
    Same with the Pike. 30% is a bit soft, just add a bit.

    I like the linear feel though. Front and rear shock really feel in balance on the evo, when they are tuned properly.

    Minor quibble for me, because I have long legs. The command post shouldn't have setback.

    Although you can flip the mounting brackets 180degress and go from 20mm to 10mm setback. Zero offset would be great.

    I preordered a new dropper post with 7inch and no setback. But it won't be here till April.

    No problem though, as the command post is pretty good.

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    Yeah I ditched my stock post. I hate setbacks too, Im running a syntace hiflex carbon post. I noticed a difference on rocks/bumps while seated. I havent fallen for the dropper post yet, I just keep my post at all around height and hardly ever lower my post.

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    Keene is sponsored by Rockshox and has always had Monarchs on his bikes. When they introduced the Carbon SJ Evo they showed Keene's bike and it had a monarch, and that was nearly 3 years ago!

    Specialized Stumpjumper Carbon EVO 2012 curtis keene First Look DEMO VIDEO - YouTube
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    Dam one percenters.

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    I personally love the Fox CTD Factory kashima shock on my 2013 SJ Evo. The climb mode is firm, full open is plush and bottomless, and the trail mode feels great in rolling terrain. I have zero complaints and I'm a pretty aggressive rider. If I needed a little more I'd swap the shaft onto a Float X.
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    That is right. I also REALLY love the Kashima shock in my 14. Zero things to improve, at least as far as I am concerned.

    IŽd just like to know, that thereŽs an aftermarket option available. The swap to Float X - maybe a nice upgrade come winter?

    But as of yet, not needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lynch View Post
    I personally love the Fox CTD Factory kashima shock on my 2013 SJ Evo. The climb mode is firm, full open is plush and bottomless, and the trail mode feels great in rolling terrain. I have zero complaints and I'm a pretty aggressive rider. If I needed a little more I'd swap the shaft onto a Float X.
    Quote Originally Posted by Znarf View Post
    That is right. I also REALLY love the Kashima shock in my 14. Zero things to improve, at least as far as I am concerned.

    IŽd just like to know, that thereŽs an aftermarket option available. The swap to Float X - maybe a nice upgrade come winter?

    But as of yet, not needed.
    Yea try riding that POS Triad, that's the point of this all. If your model came with a nice shock- good for you, but the ******** involved just to try and upgrade the subpar Traid was enough to get me to start looking at other bikes- blessing in disguise.
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    My buddy bought a 13' comp a month ago, talked to our LBS and ordered the CTD shock up no problem. He got it a week later. He ended up going with the shock from the 14' Camber Evo, the cheaper non-Kashima model. The Camber Evo models use the same spec shock as the 26" Stumpy. Huge upgrade over the Triad, and it wasnt tough to get.
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    Had exactly the same experience on my 29er Stumpjumper FSR 2011. Which came with a friggin Triad. Hated that shock.

    Fortunately Specialized sold me a RP23 with a fitting yoke. Had to *****fight for that deal though.

    Totally understand your frustration. Planned obsolescence!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lynch View Post
    My buddy bought a 13' comp a month ago, talked to our LBS and ordered the CTD shock up no problem. He got it a week later. He ended up going with the shock from the 14' Camber Evo, the cheaper non-Kashima model. The Camber Evo models use the same spec shock as the 26" Stumpy. Huge upgrade over the Triad, and it wasnt tough to get.
    Again, that's the confusion- works for a 26er, the 29er are different and it's not that simple. More than one thread about it on here. One guy bought a nice new Fox shock and had to replace the kashima coated shaft with the non one off the triad to get it to work.
    Shouldn't have to do BS like that to upgrade. I don't buy Specialized Joe answer on why they went the way they did. Plenty of other 'yoke' styled frames that use standard connections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Znarf View Post
    Had exactly the same experience on my 29er Stumpjumper FSR 2011. Which came with a friggin Triad. Hated that shock.

    Fortunately Specialized sold me a RP23 with a fitting yoke. Had to *****fight for that deal though.

    Totally understand your frustration. Planned obsolescence!
    Good for you sticking it through and fighting. I decide to say f--- Specialized and give my money to brands that don't do stupid **** like that anymore.
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    I just heard back from my lbs and sram told them that they would not be able to get the monarch plus for the stumpy 29 at this time. I gave them the part number that was posted in this thread but they keep hearing from their sram reps that it is unavailable. Has anyone in the US been able to get one? I'd like to explore other options.

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    I talked to my shop they told me to check back in few weeks as they are still waiting to hear from SRAM.

    Any one else want to get some more intel from their dealers in the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lynch View Post
    I personally love the Fox CTD Factory kashima shock on my 2013 SJ Evo. The climb mode is firm, full open is plush and bottomless, and the trail mode feels great in rolling terrain. I have zero complaints and I'm a pretty aggressive rider. If I needed a little more I'd swap the shaft onto a Float X.
    Mr Lynch,

    I assume that you preferred it to the Stumpy Brain out back - if so why?
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    Im gonna feel out another shop in Colorado today.

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    2015 Rockshox Monarch+ RC3 DebonAir Shock

    interesting find by a member on Vital MTB

    2015 Rockshox Monarch+ RC3 DebonAir Shock

    you know that all black rockshox monarch+ rear shock we've been seeing recently on pro bikes? I was browsing new shocks on the adrenaline bikes site when I found this. Looks like a new air can and more. could be good when you don't need a vivid air but want a bit more high volume than the current monarch+?





    - DebonAir air spring makes for one of the most plush air sprung shocks ever
    - Features "Rapid recovery" that allows the shock to recover more quickly between hits
    - Hybrid of Vivid-Air and Monarch technologies for a lightweight All-Mountain piggyback air shock: 325g
    - SoloAir spring design optimized for supple yet responsive bump performance
    - Hard anodized, 28mm aluminum body-shaft with sag gradients and a 9mm aluminum damper-shaft, plus a high-volume (HV) air canister on select applications
    - 1-piece piggyback/head oil damping system with IFP oil/air separation, plus external dual-flow compression and ending/beginning-stroke rebound adjustability
    - Wide-range adjustable (medium) compression tune fits most leverage ratio frame designs (Low tune still available in 2.6x8.75" version for less than 2.4 ratio: leverage ratio = wheel/frame travel divided by shock travel/stroke)

    Price: $463.45

    https://adrenalinebikes.com/store.cf...oductid=149430


    there's also a monarch rt3 version without the piggyback reservoir:




    - DebonAir air spring makes for one of the most plush air sprung shocks ever
    - Lightweight XC/All-Mountain racing oriented rear air shock: 215g
    - Soft Pedal Tune with 320lb lockout force
    - SoloAir spring system: single Schrader valve, dual chamber air spring with self-regulating negative pressure
    - RT3 oil damping system with dual-flow rebound and 3-position compression+floodgate circuit adjustability
    - Fast Black hard anodized, 28mm aluminum body-shaft with sag gradients and a 9mm aluminum damper-shaft, plus a high-volume (HV) air canister on longer (200/216mm) applications
    - Wide-range adjustable (medium) compression tune fits most leverage ratio frame designs

    Price: $344.02

    https://adrenalinebikes.com/store.cf...oductid=149424


    here's one on keene's 650B specialized stumpjumper evo:


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    Anybody pre order there monarch plus yet? I wont be able to afford one till June, probably wont be available till then anyways.

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    Just bumping this thread up to the top. Any updates?

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    Nope.

    Curtis Keene did say on fb they'd be available soon


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    The Spesh rep was at my LBS Monday and said early June.
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    Great thanks for update. After riding with my pike it feels like my triad isnt up to snuff. Bike feels balanced but my triad blows through the rear travel at 25% sag and feels harsh in the midstroke.

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    I have ZERO complaints with the Fox Float CTD kashima shock on my bike, but I'd love to try the Monarch Plus anyway! They wont be cheap though.
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    From what I have seen for reviews in mags and net the monarch plus is the go to shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lynch View Post
    My buddy bought a 13' comp a month ago, talked to our LBS and ordered the CTD shock up no problem. He got it a week later. He ended up going with the shock from the 14' Camber Evo, the cheaper non-Kashima model. The Camber Evo models use the same spec shock as the 26" Stumpy. Huge upgrade over the Triad, and it wasnt tough to get.
    Do you mind if i ask how much did he pay for the shock?

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    I believe it was right around $300, maybe a tad cheaper.
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    What about the Cane Creek Double Barrel Inline instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie_MTB View Post
    What about the Cane Creek Double Barrel Inline instead?

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    Cane Creek Double Barrel and DBAIR Shock Fit Finder seems to imply it fits a 2014 stumpjumper? Although I wasn't overwhelmed by the dbair on an enduro, I didn't have one with a climbing switch. I imagine with a shock like this and the range of adjustments it has, having a team of mechanics there to tweak it for you would make almost and shock fork feel awesome. But looks cool

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    I hear the maintenance costs on those crane creeks are outrageous.

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    Stumpy - Monarch Plus?

    As of this morning check out the cane creek inline...looks to be the perfect shock for a stumpy. I have had the ccdba on my enduro for over a year now and have nothing but good things to say about it and I'm sure this new shock won't disappoint.

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    I emailed CC asking about it. Will report what they say. Seems surprising they would offer one with a clevis mount, but stranger things have happened. They also list the size as 7.5 x 2.0 which is a bit short no? I thought the stumpjumper size was 7.75x2.0

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    When you use the bike finder it lists the 195x48mm stroke model for the SJ, which is fine for the 29er, but the 26" has a 51mm stroke.
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    I doubt that cane creek will be thinking about the SJ in a 26 now that it has been discontinued.... but maybe.

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    The Camber Evo and the SJ 650b use the same size shock as the SJ 26", so it isn't like it isnt still used. Plus there are a TON of 26" Stumpys out there!
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    Sure looks to me like it's being made for the Stumpy. Now I wish I would have waited to upgrade my shock...

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    Looks like the website has it available for Stumpy (but not in its online store as of yet):

    Cane Creek DBinline Shock

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    I wrote this to Cane Creek:


    Hello,

    I just read all the coverage on the new CC Inline shock for All Mountain bikes.
    I have a Specialized Stumpjumper Evo FSR 26" 2014 and IŽd love to put an CC Inline-shock on there.
    But it has the Clevis mount, so IŽd need a special shock.

    I saw pictures with the Inline-shock on a Specialized Enduro, so I guess they might be available for my Stumpjumper EVO, too?

    Greetings
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    And I received the following answer:

    We are working with Specialized to determine fit on a few of their bikes. So while we don't have a solution for the Stumpy Evo yet, we may have something in the future.

    Maybe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Znarf View Post
    I wrote this to Cane Creek:


    Hello,

    I just read all the coverage on the new CC Inline shock for All Mountain bikes.
    I have a Specialized Stumpjumper Evo FSR 26" 2014 and IŽd love to put an CC Inline-shock on there.
    But it has the Clevis mount, so IŽd need a special shock.

    I saw pictures with the Inline-shock on a Specialized Enduro, so I guess they might be available for my Stumpjumper EVO, too?

    Greetings
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    And I received the following answer:

    We are working with Specialized to determine fit on a few of their bikes. So while we don't have a solution for the Stumpy Evo yet, we may have something in the future.

    Maybe...
    I spoke with a CC sales guy on the phone this morning. He said they are working on updating their database for the bikes that the shocks will fit. He also said they he believes that they are working with specialized on a stumpjumper shock but he wasn't sure which model and was reluctant to say more because of the numerous stumpy options out there and that he wasn't very familiar with all of the options that specialized offers. I can only imagine that the stumpy evo would be the bike that this shock would be good for..

    He did say that once they do have the shocks available they will sell them directly and they will not come with a clevis. He said they bike owners will have to remove their clevis from their OEM shocks and attach them to the CC inline. Supposedly their will be shocks for specialized bikes that will have different fittings so that them will work with the clevis. I have never tried to separate my shock from the clevis nor have i looked into doing it before, but if its that simple I will be getting one of these shocks in the future.

    Like I said before the sales guy was hesitant to say too much because he didnt know all of the details of what would and wouldnt be offered...but the conversation sounded promising. He said to just keep checking their bike fitter page and their store....

    My opinion is that we will start to see specialized spec their high end aggressive bikes with the inline, like they have done with the S works enduro and the DBAir CS.

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    Thanks for the insight!

    I guess your guess seems valid 😀

    Removing the clevis is as easy as removing one bolt.
    Really easy to do. You just need to let the air out of the shock and compress it and then screw the bolt out.
    Done.

    I'd really love to have the inline shock option.
    And the shock sure sounds great for the Stumpjumper Evo...

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    putting that shock on a 26" Evo would drop the rear travel to 142mm. Might be acceptable if the shock is that good.
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    Looks like they are out of stock. I would order from dealer.

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    Hi, żwhat is the correct "eye" to eye distance of our shock?

    Specialized depending of the year, tells that 2012 26 evo models are 197, 2013 are 194 and 2014 are 195.

    DEBON AIR :
    EVO 26: Stroke 51 Manufacturer Part Number: 00.4118.071.005
    EVO 29: Stroke 46 Manufacturer Part Number: 00.4118.071.004

    MONARCH PLUS
    EVO 26: Stroke 51 Manufacturer Part Number: 00.4118.038.007
    EVO 29: Stroke 46 Manufacturer Part Number: 00.4118.038.008

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpynerd View Post
    Looks like they are out of stock. I would order from dealer.
    Probably not released yet

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    We will have a DBInline to fit the Stumpjumpers (2012+) and they will be available to the after-market beginning the second week of July. Please let me know if you need anything else. Cheers!

    -cc support

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    Dam now I cant decide between the cane creek or the monarch plus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpynerd View Post
    Dam now I cant decide between the cane creek or the monarch plus.
    Is it really a question considering they're priced the same?
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