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    i put an old float 36-160 rc2 on my EVO 2012 supercustom...
    i feel very very good the bike. the climb is very similar, in the down part awesome!!
    very satisfy. after 4 riding, i switch to an RS Lyric rc2l dh, 160/120.
    i can't try the bike. too much snow and mud...
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    If fox came out with a 34 with RC2 I would consider it, but until then I'll never buy a CTD fork. For experienced riders who like to tune their shock to their liking it seriously lacks in the performance dept. It is either has too little damping or too much, and I hate that it just feels off. The 34 150 may be the "right size" for the EVO, but quite frankly riders will be faster if they put on what they're comfortable with and rip it. For some, that means an RC2 36, for others it's a CTD 34 or 32, Rockshox Lyric etc etc. Rider experience and style more than makes up for a few tenths of a degree or mm's of change in a geometry spec. I personally ride a 2011 36 VAN RC2...and it is by far the best single crown fork I have ever ridden, it literally is a small 40 in terms of components and feel. Yeah, it's hefty, but does that ~1lb make a real difference? Remember what Greg Lemond said - "skip the upgrade, hit the grades." You don't see out of shape guys winning climbs because they ride a brand new carbon everything XC steed.

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    I'll have to keep an eye on this thread as I'm looking to upgrade the front and rear shocks on my 12 SJ Comp FSR. I just Blew out my Triad rear shock. The lake is at the shop with the rear shock sent off to Fox. The bike store told me that there is a kit available for the 12 stumpjumper FSR to convert it to the next level up Fox shock with the EVO linkage. It's sold as a package. $600 plus $100 labor. Seems pricey. It bumps the travel up to 150mm and would allow running a 160mm front fork (under warranty) You have to pay the $100 labor fee to have it installed at your LBS to be able to warranty it.

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    Stumpjumper Evo with a 160mm Fork

    Bro I would do it, we'll worth it will put a smile on that face lol

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    When I was building my 2013 SJ evo the spesh rep recommended I run my Fox 34 at 150 and said that 160 was more than the frame was designed for.
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    Stumpjumper Evo with a 160mm Fork

    Every rep says something different all I know is the shops here in Colorado say no problem with a 160mm. Plus if frame breaks which it won't I have a spare 150mm factory float so not worried


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    When I rebuilt my 2013 I was going to leave my Fox 34 at 160, but my LBS converted before I could talk to them.
    It is kind of like the stuff they said about the shocks. They said the 2011 Evo shock doesnt work on the non-evo models and the 2011 stuff isnt compatible with the 12/13.

    The 2011 Evo shock fit the 2011 Elite just fine and it fits on my 2013 too. I hung onto it as a backup shock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcjonessnp175 View Post
    Bro I would do it, we'll worth it will put a smile on that face lol

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    I agree! My 2012 Carbon Evo was night and day difference eversince I've invested on that Talas 34. I can climb without back pain at 120. Almost felt like an XC bike and then bomb with confidence at 160mm. It still rails the corners since it really didn't get the BB lifted up that high... It is awesome although it's a bit pricey at $1k for a fork. Well worth it though.

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    Stumpjumper Evo with a 160mm Fork

    Amen to that!

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    So have any of you guys running the 36 at 160mm had the head tube fly off the bike yet? Ready to order my new uppers and put mine on. Might order a couple spacers to drop it to 150 while I'm at it.

    After doing the math the 36 at 150mm travel will only be 3/16th of an inch taller.
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    Stumpjumper Evo with a 160mm Fork

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lynch View Post
    When I was building my 2013 SJ evo the spesh rep recommended I run my Fox 34 at 150 and said that 160 was more than the frame was designed for.
    I agree with the other poster that Spesh certainly doesn't get their reps together to make sure they all say the same thing. At a Specialized demo last year, the rep had his personal bike which happened to be an evo with a fox 160. I asked him about it and assumed the warranty is still good with a 160, and he said they wouldn't care if I put a 180 on it. They'll still warranty the frame. I rode his bike for a few miles and was sold. Bought a Lyrik soon after that for my evo.

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    According to spesh you can increase fork travel up to 10% without compromising your warranty. The EVO 26 came with a 150mm fork, adding 10% means you could run up to 165mm on the SJ EVO.

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    I'm running my Fox 34 at 160 now and I love it. Still climbs great and I like the little extra travel up front on the descents.

    I just put a RS Lyrik RC2DH 170 on my Enduro Evo, and I've thought about throwing in the spacer and dropping it to 160 to try it on my SJ. I'm just curious how it would perform.
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    Have you tried it at 160 or just speculating then?

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    Im liking the Fox 34 at 160, but I kind of want to try the Lyrik. The Lyrik is stiffer and has more tuneability. It's a .6 lb weight penalty, but my SJ is 25.6lbs right now so I'm not too concerned.
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    I'm going to be shopping for a new Pike soon and leaning towards the 160mm version.

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    the axle to crown of 160 pike is supposed to be 542mm
    the axle to crown of 150 pike is supposed to be 532mm

    my existing fox 34 (presumably adjusted to 150 before I purchased) is about 537. I'm thinking if the time comes for a new Pike I might be leaning towards the 160 too.

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    Alot of guys on PB are running 160mm forks and don't seem to be having problems. I tried a google search on "Stumpjumper FSR EVO Frame Failure" and came up with zilch.

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    The A2C on the Fox 34 at 160 is about 537....

    150mm Fox 34 -- 527.9 mm
    160mm Fox 34 -- 537.9 mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lynch View Post
    I'm running my Fox 34 at 160 now and I love it. Still climbs great and I like the little extra travel up front on the descents.

    I just put a RS Lyrik RC2DH 170 on my Enduro Evo, and I've thought about throwing in the spacer and dropping it to 160 to try it on my SJ. I'm just curious how it would perform.
    Mr. Lynch, this is exactly how I have my 2012 Stumpy Evo; 2013 Lyrik lowered to 160mm. I like it more than the 150mm Revelation it replaced, but I always wanted to like it 'more'. It gets the job done and I didn't notice any real difference on climbs unless the terrain got really steep and I would definitely say this fork likes to be ridden fast, but I've always thought this fork lacked a bit in other areas. I was hoping to have a bit more tuning with this fork. I have to run the low speed compression almost fully open to get any small bump compliance or it will feel way too harsh. Same goes for the high speed compression if I don't want large hits to feel harsh. The problem of course is that the fork dives like crazy when standing and mashing and also braking. I can't put any more air in the spring or else it'll get too stiff. I'm completely stuck. Fork is either too harsh or too soft. Can't seem to find a happy middle ground. The Lyrik has always felt 'ok', but I never got that 'wow' factor from it. I hear it gets much better with the avalanche cartridge or trying to mess with the shim stack, but I can't seem to get the nut removed from the damper to get to the stack. Hope you get more out of the fork than I did.

    At one point I was going to try the X-Fusion Vengeance HLR, but I ended up being on a waiting list with those guys for 9 months. Finally gave up. Getting one of those 29er enduros soon to try something different, but can't get rid of my 26 Stumpy. Love that bike way too much. Maybe in the future after I'm done with my Enduro build I'll get a Vengeance for the Stumpy to try out since it seems like X-Fusion finally caught up with their manufacturing.

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    this is my EVO last update:
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    I love the Lyrik on my Enduro and I have zero complaints about the Fox 34 on the SJ, so I probably wont mess with it. I am very interested in the new Pike, but not enough to drop another big chunk on it and try to sell the Fox 34. I have the 2014 damper in my Fox 34 and i think it is outstanding.
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    I had my Evo with 34/160 and it was great! The front tracked straight and was also able to slacken the HA a bit since I was on 32/150. I'm not sure about the 170 Lyrik though but I guess it all depends on where you take your bike to. If the trail is just plowing into things in front, I guess I can see why you want 170 but if the trails is not too steep, flowy/twisty, I wouldn't want 170 on there.

    I have a Santa Cruz Nickel and I tried the 34/160. The bike runs like shit with this fork on. It was perfect if the trail is rocky, rooty & just plain high speed going straight kind of terrain but not on flowy/twisty trails. I slapped a Revelation 150 which dropped the height by 17-20mm and the bike is PERFECT!

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    I decided to go with the pike in 150. I was planning on picking up another bike for park duty and found a good deal on a 2010 sx trail. So know the stumpy has only gotten better. This fork is awesome. I've ran fox forks in 36 and 32 but never a 34. That being said, if I would have been able to get uppers for my 2010 float I would have had it on the stumpy. But I was able to get the pike and it is perfect for my intents and purposes with the stumpy.
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    2012 Stumpjumper FSR EVO 26 switch from 150mm to 160mm fork
    Tim Cardoza Jul 26, 2013 09:47AM PDT
    Hi, I have read that it is ok to increase the fork travel up to 10% on Specialized bikes. My 2012 Stumpjumper FSR EVO came with a 150mm revelation fork, and I want to upgrade with the new Pike fork at 160mm. According to the 10% rule, I should be able to run up to a 165mm fork on the SJ EVO 26, correct?

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    SPECIALIZED Agent Hi, Tim!

    That is absolutely correct. Enjoy the Pike!

    Happy riding!

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    anyone using the new RS Pike on a Stumpy Evo? How is it compared to fox 34 ctd?

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    Dont know about the fox but the pike is alot better than the stock revelation that wa s on mine. And it's almost as stiff as my old fox 36 but alot more plush in the smaller vibration type bumps.
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    I have a 34, but not a Pike. Briefly checked out a friend's pike he put in his Pivot. His Pike is sweet. It seemed just as plush, but I didn't really have much of a ride on it, just a quick hop and 10 second check - but it felt really super plush - like the descend mode of the 34 - yet hopefully with less brake dive? I tend to ride my 34 in trail mode most of the time to avoid excessive brake dive and keep the ride higher in it's travel. That's pretty much the design goal of the Pike so I dunno - maybe I can get a longer test soon to really be able to compare them better.

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    EVO w/ Pike 160

    Stumpjumper Evo with a 160mm Fork-i251.jpgStumpjumper Evo with a 160mm Fork-evo1.jpgHere it is with the new fork and a new front wheel......Need to shorten the steer tube more, but better too long than too short for now... Trail test this weekend.

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    What I like about the Pike is the 160 is the same Axle to crown height as the Fox 34 150. More travel without messing with the geometry!
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    The a2c on the pike 160 is 542mm, which is about 13mm more than the stock 150 revelation. I think the Fox 34 a2c is about 528? With some of that being used in sag, 13mm is not going to be a huge change I think. On my 08 Heckler I remember switching from the old pike at about 520 a2c to a Fox 36 at 545 a2c which worked out very well and was a lot bigger change.

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    Stumpjumper Evo with a 160mm Fork

    Is it a 26 or 27,5 Pike?
    Very nice, I have the same bike and thunking about a 150-27,5 Pike.

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    It's a 26. Curious why you would want the 27.5? Going to run a bigger front wheel? Looks like a 150mm 27.5 has the same a2c as the 160mm 26"

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    Stumpjumper Evo with a 160mm Fork

    Quote Originally Posted by BushPilot View Post
    It's a 26. Curious why you would want the 27.5? Going to run a bigger front wheel? Looks like a 150mm 27.5 has the same a2c as the 160mm 26"
    Well... I'm buying an Epic 2014 in two months or so. I will have two bikes and thinking about a new Pike for my 2012 SJ Evo 26. If I take a 27,5 Pike it would be easier to sell in a future and i Still can use it with a 26" wheel.
    I've been reading and ppl says AC is smaller on the Pike than in other forks, that's why the 2014 Enduro29 comes with 160pike instead a 150 fox from the 2013.

    Hope u'll be able to understand my bad english...

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    Axle to crown for pikes is more than for the Fox 34's, at least in the 26" versions. Go with the pike because it's better than the Fox ctd crap.

    Fox 34 150mm a2c 527.9, Fox 34 160mm 537.9
    Pike 150mm a2c 532mm, Pike 160mm a2c 542mm

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    The 160mm Pike is working great. I run it with more sag than I did the rev 150, so the geo isn't much different -- but a whole lot stiffer and plusher. The bike feels much more dialed now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by molopoko View Post
    Well... I'm buying an Epic 2014 in two months or so. I will have two bikes and thinking about a new Pike for my 2012 SJ Evo 26. If I take a 27,5 Pike it would be easier to sell in a future and i Still can use it with a 26" wheel.
    I've been reading and ppl says AC is smaller on the Pike than in other forks, that's why the 2014 Enduro29 comes with 160pike instead a 150 fox from the 2013.

    Hope u'll be able to understand my bad english...
    Hi Molopoko, I let you here the A2C measures.

    Have you find the conversion kit to 15mm for your Haven front wheel?

    Fork Legs Travel Wheel A2C +-5 Offset
    Revelation 32 150 26 530 40
    Lyrik 35 160 26 545 40
    Pike 35 160 26 542 40
    Pike 35 160 27'5 552 42
    Fox 36 160 26 545 40
    Fox 34 160 26 540 40
    Fox 34 160 27'5 550 44

    Regards.

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    I have a 2012 stumpy fsr comp 26er. I have been considering a new fork however since I dont have the evo link I was going to with a standard 140mm fork. The manitou mattoc comes in 140mm and has beefy sanctions.

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    A riding buddy of mine has a 2012 Sworks Stumpy and is running a 160 pike. It slackens it out to 67 degrees like the Evo model and he loves it.
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    Stumpjumper Evo with a 160mm Fork

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziurpe View Post
    Hi Molopoko, I let you here the A2C measures.

    Have you find the conversion kit to 15mm for your Haven front wheel?

    Regards.
    Hey thanks m8! I am using the stock Roval in the front. I didn't buy the Pike cause I think I will buy the new Canyon Spectral 27,5. Just waiting to read some reviews.

    3 weeks ago I took my Evo to spanish "Pirineos" and that was amazing. Lots of sun in November.
    Here are some pics and a very good vid. Enjoy!



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    Great vid. How many miles you guys ride that day?

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    Stumpjumper Evo with a 160mm Fork

    We were there for six days and rode around 20-30 miles/day.

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    I ran a Fox 34 at 150, then a Fox 34 at 160 and now Im running a Pike 160. 160 feels perfect on the SJ evo and the Pike makes the Fox 34 feel like poo. The reviews are corrent, the Pike is one of the best trail forks ever created!
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    Ditto that!

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