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    Specialized MTB Questions?

    Hey everyone,

    I'm part of the bike development team at Specialized and am here to talk about our mountain bikes and products. Let me know if you have any feedback or questions I can help with.
    Also, if you have wheel questions check out Roval Joe's thread in the Wheel and Tire forum here: Roval questions?

    Thanks!

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    How bout some info on the monarch plus for specialized bikes.

    Stumpy - Monarch Plus?

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    Brain on Camber : why not ?
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    Good question, I could see brain for camber on new release models.

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    S Works crank in a narrower Q for hardtail frames

    Also 650A bikes, forget 650B not enough of a difference.

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    Man this specialized rep has his work cut out for him for our wish list.

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    What did Specialized do to install the OSBB crank on a standard BB? I see the Zipp Vuka BB on there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RS VR6 View Post
    What did Specialized do to install the OSBB crank on a standard BB? I see the Zipp Vuka BB on there.
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    I did the same on an enduro with standard bb. Zipp bb. Works fine. You may have to monkey with the spacers a bit to get the S-works crank right.

    For Specialized Rep:
    1. Probably won't answer this one. But 650B on Stumpjumper/Enduro?

    2. Model overlap. Obviously more choice is more betta', but I find myself conflicted about which bike to ride. There's basically 8 model lines that fall into the realm of "trail/AM" bikes which is what 90% of us ride. Camber, Camber evo, Stumpy, Stumpy 29er, Stumpy evo, Stumpy 29 evo, Enduro, Enduro 29er. Then if you throw in the rumored 650b size in there... Frankly. I'd like to see Specialized focus their R+D into making 4-5 frame lines and work on making those frames as good as possible. Frankly I can't decide if I'm more happy on a Stumpy evo or an enduro.

    3. What do you ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpynerd View Post
    How bout some info on the monarch plus for specialized bikes.

    Stumpy - Monarch Plus?
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    What you posted in the other thread is what we know at this point. RockShox is still developing that shock for AM purchase. They aren't currently available through our service centers.

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    Was the spindle length on the older cranks longer? What did you have to do besides use the Zipp cups? I think Rotor also has 30mm BSA BB cups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastazione View Post
    Brain on Camber : why not ?
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    The Camber was developed as a short travel trail bike without the brain in mind. We love hearing rider's feedback about what they want/don't want. Is the brain a feature you would like to have on a Camber?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peabody View Post
    S Works crank in a narrower Q for hardtail frames

    Also 650A bikes, forget 650B not enough of a difference.
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    We don't currently have plans to offer the SW crank with a narrower Q factor. However, the 156 Q XX1 crank does fit on the Stumpy HT if your looking to get the narrowest pedal stance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS VR6 View Post
    Was the spindle length on the older cranks longer? What did you have to do besides use the Zipp cups? I think Rotor also has 30mm BSA BB cups.
    I seem to remember it would only work with 2011+ year S-Works cranks. The spindle length on the older ones was shorter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RS VR6 View Post
    What did Specialized do to install the OSBB crank on a standard BB? I see the Zipp Vuka BB on there.
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    @RS VR6
    As bhsavery mentioned, the spacers (except for a wavy washer probably) were removed from the spindle to get the extra width. Rotor also makes a BB you could probably do this with.
    I wouldn't recommend trying this with the new SW cranks as the spindle spacers are biased toward the NDS. Removing them would shift the crankarms (and chainline) too far to the driveside of the bike.

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    yes thats what I currently use

    now how about trumping everyone and bring out the proper wheel size 650A ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhsavery View Post
    I did the same on an enduro with standard bb. Zipp bb. Works fine. You may have to monkey with the spacers a bit to get the S-works crank right.

    For Specialized Rep:
    1. Probably won't answer this one. But 650B on Stumpjumper/Enduro?

    2. Model overlap. Obviously more choice is more betta', but I find myself conflicted about which bike to ride. There's basically 8 model lines that fall into the realm of "trail/AM" bikes which is what 90% of us ride. Camber, Camber evo, Stumpy, Stumpy 29er, Stumpy evo, Stumpy 29 evo, Enduro, Enduro 29er. Then if you throw in the rumored 650b size in there... Frankly. I'd like to see Specialized focus their R+D into making 4-5 frame lines and work on making those frames as good as possible. Frankly I can't decide if I'm more happy on a Stumpy evo or an enduro.

    3. What do you ride?
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    Thanks for your thoughts about the diversity of our bike lineup. If you have any specific questions I'll do my best to answer them. Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhsavery View Post
    I seem to remember it would only work with 2011+ year S-Works cranks. The spindle length on the older ones was shorter.
    S-Works carbon cranks on Mojo SL
    Is the 2011 model the only year it will work? How do I know which one to specifically look for? I see the one in the link you sent me. There are several different types of graphics through the years.

    Thanks!

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    Hey Joe,

    So I had this question about my stock headset bearings for my 2012 Camber Carbon. I think I may have answered my own question. Could you please just double check my sleuth work before I go and buy some replacement bearings. Thanks!

    Here's the link:

    2012 Camber headset bearing direct replacement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialized_Joe View Post
    @Devastazione
    The Camber was developed as a short travel trail bike without the brain in mind. We love hearing rider's feedback about what they want/don't want. Is the brain a feature you would like to have on a Camber?
    Yes I would love it and I'm not alone. I'm from Italy and on the italian mtb-forum.it the "I'd love the Brain on the Camber" pops out every 5/6 pages on the official Camber thread.
    I'm on the prowl for a 120ish mm 29er light trail bike as I'm about to let go my Stumpy FSR 29 and I'm currenlty looking at Trek's Fuel EX 29 (curious about the DRCV thingy altough I know it's a high bobbing machine ). If the Camber had the Brain I wouldn't even consider the Fuel EX.
    Maybe you guys should consider it on Sworks and Expert level at first and let the Comp/EVO still be a more simple machine without it.

    Just for a marketing reference : I'm 40 years old not getting any younger () stuck with the 29 wheel safety and the "like when I was 13" speed feeling and need to keep my hands on the bar all the time...because I'm not a crazy kid anymore and I know my limits. Self employed,I usually buy Expert/Elite bikes of yours and upgrade parts. I buy a new bike every year.
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    Specialized Joe,

    Thanks for coming. Love my Enduro, I've owned nothing but Specialized throughout my mountain biking life.

    1. 27.5 Enduro? If so, will be my next bike (in 4-5 years).
    2. Why do you show parts for sale on your website, that are never in stock (derailleur hangers) but the dealer always has at a higher price?
    3. Why don't you offer your base level wheels for sale on your website. I have a '13 Enduro Comp and do not see the wheels I have on my bike for sale, only the much higher end wheels.
    4. My wheels on my Enduro are holding up well (1500 miles). They all say 2bliss ready. What do I need to run tubeless? Just some sort of sealant? Do I need tape also? I can't find a clear answer from anyone. My Dealer is not knowledgeable regarding this. I was given the valve stems when I bought the bike. Is that it?

    My dealer is over an hour away so getting there for some of these parts can be a pain. I would like the option to purchase components from your website instead of going to the dealer for everything. I understand not selling complete bikes, but individual components should be available.

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    Great stuff. I've been following the Roval wheel thread for a while.

    I have a question regarding sizing. I'm thinking about getting an S-Works SJ WC HT for the 2014 race season.

    I am wondering if there are any revised sizing recommendations for the 2014 SJ HT, since they got a lot longer (reach has increased by quite a lot!). My problem is that I am 180 cm tall (86 cm inseam), and I have a feel that I fall right between the two sizes. I currently ride a Cannondale F29 with a reach of 426 mm (it's a large). I don't know which size to get. I should probably add that I am riding in the elite category.

    I will be able to demo a size M 2014 SJ WC HT later this month, but I'd like to do some research by my own first.

    I notice Christoph Sauser was riding a large SJ WC HT in the last Leadville 100. 90 mm stem, and seat post with no setback. He's about the same height as I am.

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    I drive enduro S-Works 2014. Twenty-six. And I hope to change it in a couple of years for the same new. It does not matter, it's a wish: to continue to produce 26" S-Works.

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    Similar to a few others, will we see a shortened rear end on the new Stumpy FSR 29 line up similar to the Enduro or will that longer stay remain an inherent characteristic of the Stumpy line up?

    In addition, I don't understand why I can get an Enduro Comp 29 with a Pike at $3400 but a Stumpy FSR Evo wont come with one until I dish out over $6K. I want a pike on the Evo Comp.

    Lastly, for crying out loud, can you guys partner with a decent brake company. Every thread on this entire site speaks clearly that if you buy a ANY bike from the Specialized line up you need to be ready to drop proper (XT ish) brakes on the bike. At the $3K level, that's a lot of xtra cash.

    The lack of these specifics in your line up has me considering jumping ship this spring. Any info or consideration is much appreciated.
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    Ditto that on brakes. I swap out my brakes with hopes on every stumpjumper I ever owned. Stock brakes were horrible.

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    I would love to ride a Carbon bike one day, but that day won't come for several years yet. So my question/comment is about the new technology the road department has come up with: SMARTweld.

    1. (Allez) If SMARTweld really is that much stiffer/stronger/lighter why was it only used at the headtube? Why not also at the BB?

    2. (Epic/Camber/Stumpjumper HT) SMARTweld is in at least its second MY, if it really is that much stiffer/stronger/lighter, why was it not implemented in the 14MY M5 MTB lineup?

    I love my epic, but it was hard to give up over 4 lbs over my old 26 HT. If SMARTweld could drop 1/2lb off the frameset why not use it?

    Thanks for taking the time to talk to the masses.

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    Hi i live in Sweden and i have the 2013 carbon expert Epic and i wonder as snow ice wind and in spring wet conditions are a fact.
    how often do i need to clean and grease the pivots on the epic? i havenīt ridden more than perhaps 120km or so on it.
    So do i need to consider that to clean the pivots and re-grease them now before the real season starts or say next autumn or so?

    oh and also i love the bike best MTB i have ever owned and will probably have it until i canīt ride the woods anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialized_Joe View Post
    @Devastazione
    The Camber was developed as a short travel trail bike without the brain in mind. We love hearing rider's feedback about what they want/don't want. Is the brain a feature you would like to have on a Camber?
    Yes, I'd be a buyer for sure.
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    I have/had 2 29er Cambers.
    Would not like a Brain on a Camber (only the one in my skull).
    Would buy an Epic if it had a no brain version.
    Would buy a 120 - 130mm travel 27.5/650b Camber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazukea View Post
    Hey Joe,

    So I had this question about my stock headset bearings for my 2012 Camber Carbon. I think I may have answered my own question. Could you please just double check my sleuth work before I go and buy some replacement bearings. Thanks!

    Here's the link:

    2012 Camber headset bearing direct replacement.
    @Mazukea
    I think those bearings you linked to are incorrect. We use Campagnolo compatible 45x45 bearings in that headset, the ones you linked to are 36x45 bearings.

    The owners manual for your bike does have some info about the headset and installation, it says this:
    Specialized Camber carbon frames use a 1 1/8” (41.8mm x 8mm x 45°) Campagnolo
    Standard compatible top and 1.5” (52mm x 7mm x 45°) bottom bearing. Ensure that
    replacement bearings are compatible with the Specialized headset specification. No tools
    are needed for installation or removal of both bearings. Grease bearing surfaces before
    installation.

    The full manual is posted online if you need to refer to anything else: http://service.specialized.com/colla...FSR-Manual.pdf

    Feel free to PM me if you need anything else!

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    I think that all bikes with a one by setup should have the option of having a smaller chainring other than a 32T - CAMBER EXPERT CARBON EVO 29 for example. It is the only reason why I'm doubting to buy it. The trails I usually ride have very steep climbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senseye1977 View Post
    I think that all bikes with a one by setup should have the option of having a smaller chainring other than a 32T - CAMBER EXPERT CARBON EVO 29 for example. It is the only reason why I'm doubting to buy it. The trails I usually ride have very steep climbs.
    XX1 can use a 28 tooth and X01 can use a 30 tooth. If you want to go smaller, look at Raceface which I think can do a 26 tooth and is compatible with the 1 by setup.
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    I just want to be able to buy dangler parts easily. Thanks Joe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikewadley View Post
    XX1 can use a 28 tooth and X01 can use a 30 tooth. If you want to go smaller, look at Raceface which I think can do a 26 tooth and is compatible with the 1 by setup.
    Yeah, but that would mean swapping out the stock cranks aside from the chainring. The bike the camber carbon evo i mentioned has SRAM carbon S-2200 cranks

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS VR6 View Post
    Is the 2011 model the only year it will work? How do I know which one to specifically look for? I see the one in the link you sent me. There are several different types of graphics through the years.

    Thanks!
    Hmm...I did some digging and can't find any evidence that the older spindles were narrower. We did use a wider 84.5mm bb shell in 2010 before moving to a 73mm shell.
    Aside from the newest 2014 crank, I am pretty sure any of the older ones will work. Although they changed a bit cosmetically over the years, they should all have a 91mm spindle length.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock View Post
    Specialized Joe,

    Thanks for coming. Love my Enduro, I've owned nothing but Specialized throughout my mountain biking life.

    1. 27.5 Enduro? If so, will be my next bike (in 4-5 years).
    2. Why do you show parts for sale on your website, that are never in stock (derailleur hangers) but the dealer always has at a higher price?
    3. Why don't you offer your base level wheels for sale on your website. I have a '13 Enduro Comp and do not see the wheels I have on my bike for sale, only the much higher end wheels.
    4. My wheels on my Enduro are holding up well (1500 miles). They all say 2bliss ready. What do I need to run tubeless? Just some sort of sealant? Do I need tape also? I can't find a clear answer from anyone. My Dealer is not knowledgeable regarding this. I was given the valve stems when I bought the bike. Is that it?

    My dealer is over an hour away so getting there for some of these parts can be a pain. I would like the option to purchase components from your website instead of going to the dealer for everything. I understand not selling complete bikes, but individual components should be available.

    Rock
    Lets see what I can answer here...
    1. In regards to 650B/27.5 bikes, I can only really comment about bikes we are currently making. We certainly are aware of whats happening in the market though and you're not the only rider who is itching for a 650B bike from Specialized!
    2. I'll try and research this further, however I'm not too involved personally in that side of things around here.
    3. Let me get back to you on this one...
    4. The wheels and tires that came on your bike are 2bliss ready and the rims should have the brown rim strips already installed. I'd highly recommend giving it a try! All you need to do is install the valve stems and add some sealant. We use the Stan's sealant most of the time with great results. And just fyi, you might need a compressor to help inflate it the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_marsbar View Post
    Great stuff. I've been following the Roval wheel thread for a while.

    I have a question regarding sizing. I'm thinking about getting an S-Works SJ WC HT for the 2014 race season.

    I am wondering if there are any revised sizing recommendations for the 2014 SJ HT, since they got a lot longer (reach has increased by quite a lot!). My problem is that I am 180 cm tall (86 cm inseam), and I have a feel that I fall right between the two sizes. I currently ride a Cannondale F29 with a reach of 426 mm (it's a large). I don't know which size to get. I should probably add that I am riding in the elite category.

    I will be able to demo a size M 2014 SJ WC HT later this month, but I'd like to do some research by my own first.

    I notice Christoph Sauser was riding a large SJ WC HT in the last Leadville 100. 90 mm stem, and seat post with no setback. He's about the same height as I am.
    I'll start by saying that bike sizing is highly personal and there's no certain rules for height and bike size. With that said, when we redesigned the SJ HT for 2014 each size got about a 5mm longer TT than the previous generation.

    I try and look at both stack and reach together when determining size for a bike. The SJ HT has a lower stack than the F29 so it will seem to have a longer reach as well. If you continue up the headtube on the SJ HT to a stack of 641mm (your current bike's reach) the reach on a large SJ becomes 431mm, only 5mm longer than your Cannondale.

    I personally am about your same height and am waffling between a Med and Large on the HT. Let me know if you want to discuss the fit and sizing between bikes some more, I'll try my best to help!

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    Well I'm no Pro but I LOVE to ride off road! in the late 80s..88 I think... I bought Specialized tires, can't recall but I think they were Ground Controlls, and rims that came with Spec Sealed Bearing hubs..big deal then lol
    Anyway..17+ years later..
    My point THank You ALL for keeping the Hardrock alive. For the recreational MTBer it's an awesome bike..I ride the Sport frame 19", love it...it's taking aftermarket upgrades well and keeping the smile from ear to ear..
    It's worked great for me 12 mos as new owner and MTB re-do-er lol
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    Hi Joe,
    I have 2013 epic marathon and the decal on the downtube is getting pretty torn up with rocks, which means it's doing it's job, but is there a way to get a new one?

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    When will you offer a replacement shock option for the various Stumpjumper FSR 29ers that are stuck with the Triad shock because of your stupid proprietary mounting method?

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    Specialized_Joe - I'm picking up my Epic Expert WC today. What additional accessories come with the bike? I am assuming tubeless valve stems and rim tape? Does a shock pump come with it? Thanks!
    Enjoy the ride!

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    Specialized Joe, I have a 2013 Epic Comp. I weight about 220 geared up. Whenever I use the Autosag, it puts the rear shock at 270. Is this normal for my size? If it's not I am pretty sure it's due it user error, ie something I am not doing correctly. Thanks
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    Please could you advise the best aftermarket 142 x 12mm QR thru axle, for an Epic Expert WC? Is it the Syntace X12 axle?
    Thanks

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    I am looking to upgrade the fork on my Medium frame 2012 Camber Comp and I am really interested in the Fox Float 32 120mm. I found a demo for a really great price but the steering tube has already been cut down to 6in. The fork was on a XL 2013 Camber. Does anyone know if this fork will work on my bike? Thanks for the insight!

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    Joe -

    Riding an S-Works Epic World Cup. Any way to run a dropper post without using Zip Ties to secure the cable?

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    If you really want honest feedback- here's mine.
    Dump the proprietary shock shaft. There are a bunch of other manufactures that have yokes on the rear of the shock, but the yoke is designed to bolt to a normal off the shelf shock.

    Your proprietary shock and absolute zero support in trying to upgrade from the traid is a large part of why I sold my Stumpjumper and won't be buying another Specialized.

    Just have a look at this thread and the buzz generated by seeing a Monarch plus on a SJ, but par for the course, not available.
    Stumpy - Monarch Plus?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    If you really want honest feedback- here's mine.
    Dump the proprietary shock shaft. There are a bunch of other manufactures that have yokes on the rear of the shock, but the yoke is designed to bolt to a normal off the shelf shock.

    Your proprietary shock and absolute zero support in trying to upgrade from the traid is a large part of why I sold my Stumpjumper and won't be buying another Specialized.

    Just have a look at this thread and the buzz generated by seeing a Monarch plus on a SJ, but par for the course, not available.
    Stumpy - Monarch Plus?
    Agree with this -- unless Specialized can supply a reasonably priced and readily available Specialized specific shock shaft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    If you really want honest feedback- here's mine.
    Dump the proprietary shock shaft. There are a bunch of other manufactures that have yokes on the rear of the shock, but the yoke is designed to bolt to a normal off the shelf shock.

    Your proprietary shock and absolute zero support in trying to upgrade from the traid is a large part of why I sold my Stumpjumper and won't be buying another Specialized.

    Just have a look at this thread and the buzz generated by seeing a Monarch plus on a SJ, but par for the course, not available.
    Stumpy - Monarch Plus?

    X3 here. Between said point, and the brake upgrade issues I am looking elsewhere if I don't like what I see at Sea Otter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuch View Post
    X3 here. Between said point, and the brake upgrade issues I am looking elsewhere if I don't like what I see at Sea Otter.
    Don't get me starting on the howling Avid brakes on my Stumpy.
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    i really donīt have any obvious issues with my 2013 Epic Expert Carbon, not that is has been though any ruff terrain, not sure it ever will for obvious reasons.
    But again my question is:
    I Live in Northern Sweden we have snowy,icy,and on the spring icy/wet roads.
    how vulnerable are the Pivot for this kind of weather do i need to grease them before summer season starts or am i good to letīs say September?
    it hasnīt been ridden hard per say for XC rider.
    So am i good for the season and do some maintenance on it later in the autumn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serzh View Post
    I drive enduro S-Works 2014. Twenty-six. And I hope to change it in a couple of years for the same new. It does not matter, it's a wish: to continue to produce 26" S-Works.
    Thanks for your feedback. That bike rips, I love it too!

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