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    Specialized Goes 650B with Stumpjumper EVO Models

    Today Specialized announced two new 650b (27.5-inch) Stumpjumper EVO models to dealers. The decision to make the move to 650b was based on consumer and retailer demand. 26-inch EVO models will be discontinued going forward, but 29-inch EVO models will still be available. Bikes are expected to be available as early as mid-April. As these leaked catalogue images show, each model will come in two colors.
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    The Expert Carbon EVO model features a FACT 9m carbon front triangle and M5 alloy rear triangle. Parts include a RockShox Pike RC fork, FOX Float CTD Factory rear shock with AUTOSAG, Shimano XT brakes, SRAM X01 11-speed drivetrain, 650b Specialized tires, and 650b Specialized 142+ Roval Traverse wheels. MSRP is $6,500.



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    EVOs used to have hot paintjobs, what happened Specialized? That baby blue needs to go.
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Size:  21.3 KBSo the question is do you spend the extra $1,500-$2,000 because it says Specialized or go with the upcoming Switchback Unveil7?

    Unveil7 — 29er | 27.5 | Switchback Bikes

    I've got a friend riding the 29'er version, it's been over a year now with no issues whatsoever. I think they even now have a 2 or 3 year warranty.

    Thoughts?
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    Stop messing around let's see those 650B Enduros!!!

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    Specialized Goes 650B with Stumpjumper EVO Models

    They should offer a blacked out model like they have this year.


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    My bike is now officially extinct. It's still the most fun, best trail bike I've ridden and I'll continue to shred as long as it lasts. See you on the trails.

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    Well, this is what I have been waiting on all winter. Those colors are absolutely hideous. Hideous enough for me to let Specialized I'm moving on. Time to pull the trigger on the Troy I believe, as I've waited long enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by okie_calvin View Post
    Thoughts?
    Yes ! Here : there's a lot more 27.5 bikes available out there and it looks like Specialized came quite late to the 650b game. Still,I'm sure this bike has been planned a long time ago and like most of their bikes it will perform flawlessly and competitors once again will have to learn something.

    I'm thinking about a those who dropped some serious cash for Sworks and Expert Enduro 29ers back in september,if the Enduro 27,5 will be released well that is quite a bit irritating..
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    I'm surprised about why the top tube hasn't been tweaked "a la Epic 2014" style,more straight and elegant rather than looking like a tube of metal crammed between 2 wheels. We are looking at the same frame from 2012 afterall...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastazione View Post
    I'm surprised about why the top tube hasn't been tweaked "a la Epic 2014" style,more straight and elegant rather than looking like a tube of metal crammed between 2 wheels. We are looking at the same frame from 2012 afterall...
    Yeah I agree. Looks like the same frame, I was expecting an overhaul. I probably wont get a 650b stumpy till the 2nd gen or 3 gen frame.

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    So no XL for 650b stumpy? Thats nuts. My 2012 was the last year of the 26er XL.

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    I want to know what the reach and the chain stay measurements are...
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    Specialized website now has the 650b models on it, but doesn't have the measurements as of today:

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    The geo ive seen posted better be wrong. A 68.4HT angle is steep for the type of bike it is meant to be..
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    I just picked up a new stumpy 26" last week. Would've liked to at least tested one of those out. That's what I get for cheating on my Scott dealer. I got the evo comp model best build for the price so still a win.

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    Pretty disapointing, it is just the 29er front tri with a new rear and a lower headset spacer to to adjust geo. Ill wait till till actually take the time to design a proper 650b

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    Yeah,

    I got a 2014 (!) Specialized Stumpjumper Carbon Evo FSR Expert 26er (friggin name). And I like it SO much.
    And now it is extinct. I got it last november and have ridden it a ton. Couldn´t imagine a nicer bike.
    And the stealth blacked out look is just fantastic.

    If Specialized still has a blacked out Enduro (whatever wheelsize, I don´t really care) in carbon this fall, I´ll buy one to complement my trail EVO SJ.

    Hanging a 29er front triangle with a fork spacer onto a 650b rear-end doesn´t seem super sophisticated and the HA looks quite steep. But maybe it works?

    Maybe they´ll also release a new 29er 2015 Stumpjumper this fall and irritate all the customers who get this "new" 650b Evo. =)

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    wow, that bb is pretty crazy low at 327mm, which is about 12 7/8 inches.
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    Curious if this is the floodgate to offer HTs and other FSs like the Epic....
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    Wonder if the 27.5 rear end and linkage could be retrofitted to a 26" front triangle?

    They may have used the 29" front triangle to avoid having two separate front triangles to manufacture rather than it being a better fit.

    If it does fit and is available I am sure lots of people would want to upgrade their 26" models.

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    In addition to the whacky 68.4* HA, what's going on with the external headset?

    PS Stack seems like awfully high too, significantly taller than even 29er models


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    Specialized Goes 650B with Stumpjumper EVO Models

    Sweet! Now my '13 stumpy fsr evo is on it's way to classic/vintage status!

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    i really want to just order the rear end! i bet it will bolt up to my 26" and be a lot more slack!

    The frame only option has a sweet all black version that looks like my 2013.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cable0guy View Post
    In addition to the whacky 68.4* HA, what's going on with the external headset?

    PS Stack seems like awfully high too, significantly taller than even 29er models

    Where's that photo from?
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    Your BB would be rather low.

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    Specialized Goes 650B with Stumpjumper EVO Models

    68.4 degree HA?! That's bunk! I had really high hopes for this bike, oh well. Definitely not "Evo" geometry.


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    Re: Specialized Goes 650B with Stumpjumper EVO Models

    Too steep for my liking as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cable0guy View Post
    In addition to the whacky 68.4* HA, what's going on with the external headset?

    PS Stack seems like awfully high too, significantly taller than even 29er models

    It is a 29er front triangle. The external h-set is to offset the difference in wheels.

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    Surprised the chainstays are 435mm. Was hoping to see a taco deli with 420mm chainstays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cable0guy View Post

    Geometry for the Stumpy 650B isn't posted on the spesh website yet. Where did these numbers come from?

    What's with that "low setting"?

    68.4 HA does seem too steep for an EVO model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robb Davis View Post
    Geometry for the Stumpy 650B isn't posted on the spesh website yet. Where did these numbers come from?

    What's with that "low setting"?

    68.4 HA does seem too steep for an EVO model.
    It does seem steep to me as well but I would not be surprised. The bike is really a 29er with some basic modification like the headset cup to make it work with 650b. It is a stop gap since they were losing a ton of money by being slow to the 650b party. It will take a ground up design around the new wheel size to have optimized geometry.

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    That Geo chart has to be bogus.

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    The bottom bracket height and head tube angle are about what you would get if you took the 29er front triangle and put a 650b fork on it with that headset cup.
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    Must be an early april fools joke. sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpynerd View Post
    Must be an early april fools joke. sick.
    I have been shopping for a new bike for a couple of weeks and got in the ugly debate about wheel size and after reading a lot the conclusion seems to be 27.5 or 650b would be best suited for my type of riding, so I was glad this new 650b came out.

    I was in the store today looking at apparently the only Evo 650b that my local store will get for a while, and came across the discussion around geometry in this thread which worries me.

    Would anyone be kind enough to explain in plain English what the previous posts around geometry mean (i.e. heatset too steep or bottom bracket too low)? Sorry if noob question. I don't do any races, fun factor is #1 for me, speed and going over big stuff is low in my priorities list, so should I pass and just get a 26 EVO?

    Also, is it me or there is very little clearance for the tires? Wouldn't mud accumulate in that area?

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    ^ That dropper post must be 10 stories tall!

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    Well, if the 2013 Evo becomes a classic, my 2014 Carbon 26" Evo will be a rarity.

    I´ll continue to ride it like mad though.
    I really, really, really love this bike. It rides like a dream, very nimble and light. Yet it is also quite efficient.

    I just put a Schwalbe Rock Razor 2.35 Semislick enduro tire on the rear wheel and the bike just flies now.
    SO much fun.

    The icing is the matte black stealth carbon theme. It just looks so great, too.

    The 2011 SJ FSR 29er Comp alloy I rode before was also very nice, but not nearly as refined and with the big wheels not as much fun (for me, personally). Even faster on long mellow rides though. Quite a bit heavier also.

    I understand the constraints for Specialized. The market is hyped up about 650b like crazy. If the 26ers don´t sell in numbers anymore, you´ve got to do something as a company, Specialized themselves marked their 26" offerings as old fish, yet kept them for those "late dog" customers. But those 26" offerings are incredibly refined and ripe. And some really love the feel.

    I would like to test ride the 650b Stumpjumper before condeming it. I can´t believe that Specialized risked it´s series of really great trailbikes and rushes to market with a scrap project. But I have to say I am slightly irritated so far.

    I´ll not speculate how it rides, as looks and numbers can deceive. But I remember the 2009 29" SJ FSR. Not a bad bike by a long stretch. But there was a reason that the 2010 29er SJ FSR was totally different and also rode a lot better ;-)


    Very curious for a serious 650b Stumpjumper review!

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    Hey zarf I would keep that 26er evo you got for a long time even if you go 650b. Thats what I plan on doing.

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    Yeah,

    I´ll do that. It is an expensive bike - should be ridden plenty ;-)

    That new Nomad looks like a nice addition as a more burly side-option for the days in the Alps.

    FRIGGIN expensive in Germany though.

    Carbon Specializeds at the Expert levels are almost a steal against the import prices of Santa Cruz bikes over here ;-)

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    It looks waaaay to similiar to the 29er frame.
    In my opinion the 26er frame looks the goods.
    The 29er looks a tad re-tard. and 650b looks nearly identical (top tube angle and curve)
    I know its not all about how it looks....and im sure it rides awesome,
    sucks really though as im in the market for an evo and wet my pants a little when the 650b was announced...
    oh well hopefully the enduro 650b looks a bit meaner....?
    and im still set on a 26 now.
    blah blah blah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seemus7 View Post
    It looks waaaay to similiar to the 29er frame.
    In my opinion the 26er frame looks the goods.
    The 29er looks a tad re-tard. and 650b looks nearly identical (top tube angle and curve)
    I know its not all about how it looks....and im sure it rides awesome,
    sucks really though as im in the market for an evo and wet my pants a little when the 650b was announced...
    oh well hopefully the enduro 650b looks a bit meaner....?
    and im still set on a 26 now.
    blah blah blah

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    You know looking at the profile of the bike I thought that the frame looked an awful lot like the 29er frame myself. Head tube angle and what not. Surely Specialized would not be that lazy though, would they? Typically 650b geo should more closely match 26er geo than 29er.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seemus7 View Post
    It looks waaaay to similiar to the 29er frame.
    In my opinion the 26er frame looks the goods.
    The 29er looks a tad re-tard. and 650b looks nearly identical (top tube angle and curve)
    I know its not all about how it looks....and im sure it rides awesome,
    sucks really though as im in the market for an evo and wet my pants a little when the 650b was announced...
    oh well hopefully the enduro 650b looks a bit meaner....?
    and im still set on a 26 now.
    blah blah blah

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    Get the 26er Evo then!
    I just returned from a ride and again it is so much fun.
    It's the most dialed bike I ever owned and it's just the perfect blend of nimble, fun, fast, light, yet stable and confidence inspiring.

    Availability of spare parts won't be an issue, as there are so many 26ers still and most of us ride their bikes not more than five years anyway.

    If you look at aftermarket stuff, there's mainly 26 inch still...

    I jumped on the 29er train a bit too early.
    I am sure the next generation 650b bikes will be stellar, just look at the Nomad. But first gen always has irks...

    Again, let me emphasize: I haven't ridden as much and haven't had as much fun as with this 26" bike since November.
    I owned lots of small and big wheeled bikes as I used to work in a bike shop. No bike was as balanced. I might buy a park bike and a cheap single speed at some point, just for fun. But right now, I'm covered ...

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    Talked with specialized they will be offering the xl for 650b. Whew.

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    They have the molding anyway, cause it´s the 29er frame.

    Just kidding ! =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GnarBrahWyo View Post
    You know looking at the profile of the bike I thought that the frame looked an awful lot like the 29er frame myself. Head tube angle and what not. Surely Specialized would not be that lazy though, would they? Typically 650b geo should more closely match 26er geo than 29er.
    Yes, they are that lazy. It is a 29er front triangle with a new alloy rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YodaForce View Post
    Yes, they are that lazy. It is a 29er front triangle with a new alloy rear.
    That really sucks if that is indeed the case. I would expect more from Specialized than a hastily thrown together conversion, even on a first-gen bike.

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    Compare them in 2 different browser tabs you can clearly see differences Yoda.

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    Differences in the bike yes, they altered the geo with the different rear end and the headset cup thingy so the points don't line up but it is a 29er front so they could get it out this year before they lost any more money.

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    That geo chart is obviously bogus. You think Spesh would release a 150mm travel trail bike with a 68.5 head angle? C'mon man.

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