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    Roval Control Carbon or Control Carbon SL?

    Building up my 2014. S-Works Epic and the final decision would be the wheels. Looking for feedback on these two wheel sets the 2014 no beadhook models.

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    I'm super happy with my Sl's easy to set up tubeless, stiff, track well, look good very comparable to my Enves

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    Go with the 15TA/142x12 Control Carbon SL. At under 1500g/set...you can even run a lightweight, 2.0" tire and it will have nearly the same comfort, volume and tread footprint as a 2.2 tire!
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    If your getting an S-Works get the SL's, light weight is why you went with S-Works, yes?

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    If you can afford it go for the SLs. I have the control carbon on my Epic and they are great wheels,but I've previously owned the 2012 SL's on my 2012 Epic and I currently have the SLs Trail on my Stumpy FSR. If you can splurge on it do it right. I'll get the SLs later on for my Epic. Worth the money to replace a pair of very similar wheels but just 200gr ligther ? I don't think so but hey....we are riders.
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    Control Carbon is a lot less expensive so that is what I went for on my Stumpy. If you have the $$ the SLs would be great on a bike like the Epic.

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    I got the SLs installed on my Ibis Ripley. I'm very happy with my decision.

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    anyone knows how to remove the Roval decals from the rim?

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    any full review out yet of the 2014 roval SL?

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    went with the SL. Snow on the ground review forthcoming (once the weather changes).

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    Roval control sl 2014 owners: I don't trust in the 2bliss tape and those roval valves I will install stans tape and stans valves too.

    My question is do you think the 35mm valve is enough for the rim profile or Is better the 44mm valve??

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    Just installed my 14 SL's. Some thoughts:

    -super light
    -super wide
    -super stiff

    If you're having trouble mounting tires tubeless, take some Stan's sealant and coat the bead of the tire with it. They'll seat up immediately with a compressor.

    PS Looking to sell a new set of Control Carbons for the right price... which is $800

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    Quote Originally Posted by dypeterc View Post
    Just installed my 14 SL's. Some thoughts:

    -super light
    -super wide
    -super stiff

    If you're having trouble mounting tires tubeless, take some Stan's sealant and coat the bead of the tire with it. They'll seat up immediately with a compressor.

    PS Looking to sell a new set of Control Carbons for the right price... which is $800
    makes me feel happy I got some barely used Carbon Controls for 500 (with tires and cassette at that!)

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    have controls on my s-works epic. love them and have abused the S##t out of them. look new. Wouldn't waste money upgrading to SL's...wait that's because I'm broke after buying the frame!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamrok View Post
    makes me feel happy I got some barely used Carbon Controls for 500 (with tires and cassette at that!)
    Nice, where did you find those?
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    Looking at popping for a set of Carbon sl's.Everyone still happy with these?

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    I'm ready to upgrade the OEM Roval alloy rims on my 2013 Epic Comp Carbon. Right now I'm riding a set of demo Roval Carbon Control 29 wheels. I raced last season on my stock wheels, and after putting about 40 miles on these carbon rims I can definitely see a difference in handling, acceleration, everything. Now, that I've seen the difference I'm considering the Control SL 29s. They are even lighter, but I'm wondering if I'd be giving anything up in stiffness when dropping to fewer spokes on the SLs. I weigh in at 220 and the weight limit is around 240 on them I believe.

    Any experience or recommendations between the two carbon rims? Is the .5 lbs weight difference worth $600?

    Thanks!

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    No.. You want durability.. I'm the same weight and have ridden 4 years on the carbon controls..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosovich View Post
    No.. You want durability.. I'm the same weight and have ridden 4 years on the carbon controls..

    Thanks! I appreciate the feedback.

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    I started the thread. For the record I ended up with Control SL's. They have been excellent. The only bummer is the "new standards" are coming up (148 rear and 110 front) and that would be threatening their usage on future products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHSAD View Post
    I started the thread. For the record I ended up with Control SL's. They have been excellent. The only bummer is the "new standards" are coming up (148 rear and 110 front) and that would be threatening their usage on future products.

    Cool. I'm leaning toward the SLs, but still wondering about my weight of 220 lbs on them with fewer spokes than the Control Carbons. Would you mind sharing your riding weight all geared up?

    I guess that new standards thing you mentioned is a bummer. I wasn't aware of that. I don't tend to switch out bikes often. I'll shell out the big bucks and then keep it for years and change out components as they break. My last mtb was a HT in service for 15 years, so jumping to a FS Epic was a night and day difference. I'll probably stick with this bike for at least 4-5 more years, so I hope the SLs will last that long.


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    At 220, I would opt for the Control Carbons.

    Under 200, I'd opt for the SLs. They are great wheels. But, your margin for error goes down when you're pushing the weight up there. A few more spokes is nice, a stiffer front wheel will be loads better than a touch of lighter weight, in that instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by briscoelab View Post
    At 220, I would opt for the Control Carbons.

    Under 200, I'd opt for the SLs. They are great wheels. But, your margin for error goes down when you're pushing the weight up there. A few more spokes is nice, a stiffer front wheel will be loads better than a touch of lighter weight, in that instance.
    Got it. Thanks for the insight. This is my first foray into high end wheels. I always rode the stock Shimano/Mavic combos in my 26er days, and the Epic has always had the OEM alloy Rovals. Great advice.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikewadley View Post
    Nice, where did you find those?
    I found a lightly used Roval Control Carbon wheelset on CraigsList for $600. I am so happy with these wheels for that price - and I kept my Roval aluminum wheelset for extremely nasty and rocky trails.

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    Weight-wise, especially regarding the Roval Control SL:

    Does the advertised weight of 1370g include 2bliss rim tape? Has anybody checked and weighed his?

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    2015 Roval Control SL with Specialized factory rim tape installed
    Front: 638g (with 15mm? caps installed)
    Rear: 780g (142+)

    So they are 1418g for the wheelset, although Specialized's website says 1370g. Perhaps the advertised weight is without the rim tape.

    Oddly enough, the SLs have external width of 30mm (advertised and in actual measurement), while the Control Carbons have external width of 27mm (advertised, not yet measured). Maybe they are using lighter carbon material on the SLs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pegleg81 View Post
    2015 Roval Control SL with Specialized factory rim tape installed
    Front: 638g (with 15mm? caps installed)
    Rear: 780g (142+)

    So they are 1418g for the wheelset, although Specialized's website says 1370g. Perhaps the advertised weight is without the rim tape.

    Oddly enough, the SLs have external width of 30mm (advertised and in actual measurement), while the Control Carbons have external width of 27mm (advertised, not yet measured). Maybe they are using lighter carbon material on the SLs?
    If I remember correctly the SL's have a lighter front hub - carbon vs aluminum - or something like that.

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    Can't speak on behalf of the SL's, but the Carbon Controls are super, super strong.

    I got a sidewall tear during a race and had to ride the last 1.5 miles on my rims. I was in a rocky creek bed. Made it back...not a single scratch or dent. They are strong, strong rims. Very durable.

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    I am crossing my fingers for these available in Boost 110/148 in the Spring. I got the new Fuel EX 9.8 which is great, but it has the DT M1900 wheels that are a weighty 1940g. The bike comes in at about 28.5 lbs with 350g flat pedals and tubeless.

    I would love to lose 360g (Control) or even 570g (Control SL) of weight and even better that it is rolling weight.

    I am 155lbs geared up, so I think I would be fine with the SL even though I still ride some medium-aggressive lines on the Fuel.

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    Hi, please help me make my mind :-)
    i am buying some coontrol or sl tomorrow evening, I ride cyclocross (my only bike for everything and those will be my only set of wheel too) in A grade and plan to race mtb on it (i am from mtb bacgroung). will the sl be strong enough long term on my ridgid cx bike or should get the control, I am 190lbs experienced and giving it a good go usually keep up with most mtb rider on single tracks

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