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    Please Help Identifying This Hardrock

    Found on local CL and it says it's 2014. Not much else except that upon close-up you can see "expert" under "hardrock"

    Any ideas?
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    So it's a 2014 Specialized Hardrock Expert then? ;0)

    Solid enough entry-level bike with a Suntour fork and basic components. Ok as a starter bike for light trails and paths if it's in good condition and is cheap. Not worth buying if it's either not very cheap or carrying a lot of wear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    So it's a 2014 Specialized Hardrock Expert then? ;0)

    Solid enough entry-level bike with a Suntour fork and basic components. Ok as a starter bike for light trails and paths if it's in good condition and is cheap. Not worth buying if it's either not very cheap or carrying a lot of wear.
    I can't find it on the Specialized website - I wanted to see it's specs. The seller wants $220 and he says it's in an excellent condition. Good price?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by npn View Post
    Good price?
    Have you ever met a seller who did not say their stuff was in excellent condition? You need to actually check it. It's a few years old but could be hardly used or could be work out. Find that out before thinking about the price and bear in mind that virtually everyone will move on price. Even if it is mint, try to get money off.

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    Freaking Craigslist.

    Absolutely NOT even a 2014 Hardrock, let alone an 'Expert' level Hardrock. Lying sacks of crap. That paint scheme is from the 2009 Hardrocks. And I cannot ever recall the existence of an 'Expert' level Hardrock. The Hardrock is a decidedly entry level bike, and 'Expert' models are usually very nicely equipped. Rockhopper Experts maybe, but IIRC, there hasn't been a Hardrock Expert in the past several years, IF EVER.

    ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS do your research whenever looking at a bike on craigslist. I have seen many, many incorrect models years advertised on CL, and the bikes are A-L-W-A-Y-S older, N-E-V-E-R newer.

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    I appreciate it. I knew something was wrong as I couldn't find such model at all. He said it's a 24 speed which threw me off even more.

    Needless to say, the deal is off - can't trust meeting this dude.

    Once again, I appreciate it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by npn View Post
    Needless to say, the deal is off - can't trust meeting this dude.
    You can't trust anything any seller says. You have to look at the item in question and assess it for yourself. If you can't do that, don't buy second hand.

    This bike could be perfectly fine, despite the fictional description. I'd still buy it but only once I'd checked it over.

    One handy trick to to take a chain checker with you. most casual riders never replace the chain so a chain checker can give you a rough idea of how much wear is on the bike.

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    I couldn't see where it actually says 'Expert' on the frame as the pic won't blow up that much for me. It doesn't make sense that they would put v-brakes on an Expert model even if it is a hardrock. If it actually does say 'Expert' on the frame, then I obviously stand corrected. As is, I wouldn't do business with this individual just because you can't trust anything they say, and I would want to have proof that the bike is not stolen.

    I have, and will continue to use CL, but you must be diligent, do your research, and use critical thinking when deciding to complete a transaction.

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    Searching for similar bikes, I reckon it's a 2009/2010 bike. You can't go by the names Specialized give them as they just throw any tags on their bikes now. It's meaningless. It could still be a good bike but I'd reckon it's worth about half the asking price, if in great condition. If carrying significant wear, I wouldn't touch it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    You can't go by the names Specialized give them as they just throw any tags on their bikes now. It's meaningless.
    I wouldn't exactly say it's meaningless. There is a hierarchy to it that starts with the base model, and then goes like this:

    Sport
    Comp
    Elite
    Expert
    Pro
    S-Works

    Not all models have all of those levels, and they vary from year to year. But if they offer a Sport, and a Comp model, the Comp model will always be better than the Sport model, and if they have an Elite, it will be better than the Comp or Sport. The exception to that may be if they offer something like a Stumpjumper in both a carbon version and an alloy version. It would be possible for carbon version of a lower model to cost more than an alloy version of a higher model.

    There you go; clear as mud ;~)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffj View Post
    I wouldn't exactly say it's meaningless. There is a hierarchy to it that starts with the base model, and then goes like this:
    What I mean is that over the year Specialised have diluted the meaning of their product names. The Rockhopper used to be a quality bike but you now get junk-spec ones. So seeing an 'expert' bike with v-brakes wouldn't totally surprise me, if the bike was old enough.

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    So I didn't follow through with this guy. While he never said the bike was "Expert", he claimed that he bought it in 2014 brand-new even after I asked again.

    I had to enhance the image to read the sub-model and looking at jeffj's post, it might've been "Sport", actually more likely the case after I did more research.

    He kept texting me even when I said I wasn't interested which suddenly showed interest in selling it. I didn't feel safe and comfortable with meeting this dude so I passed. Even for half what he was asking, I'd still would've thought twice.

    Thanks for your help guys!

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    Don't worry, lot of bikes in the world.

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