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    Paging JakeWake

    Im a proud owner of a 2004 SJ FSR, my 5th Specialized bike. Unfortunatley, Im having some issues w/my bike. About 3 months after buying the bike it developed a creak that sounded like, "T T T", like something is cracking. I have taken it back to the dealer multiple times where they have performed the folowing:

    -bearing/bolt check
    -greased seat rails, seat post, stem bolts, rear hub, pedals and cranks
    -replaced headset -$80
    -replaced bottom bracket-$35
    -refaced/bored head tube -$85
    -suspension fork (Marzocchi Marathon) sent back to manufactuer

    None of these things have solved the problem and it continues to get worse,
    (louder/more frequent). It has gotten to the point Where my ridding
    partners dont want to ride w/me.

    The noise is inconsistant w/ pedaling, braking or suspension cycling, just random. The only consistant trait is that is becomes more appearant the longer I ride. This has made it difficult for the dealer to remedy.

    I can find no cracks or dents in the frame but noticed the following:

    Removing the the shock link from the seat stays and I the seat/chain
    stay assembly is off center to the drive side. All bolts were retorqed to
    correct specs. Once together the linkage is free from binding and is smooth,
    but the "Tick" is still there.

    Is it normal for the seat/chain stay assembly to be off center? Could this
    be my problem?

    I have also emailed this to Specd CS, but i simply get, "take it your your local Specd dealer".

    Do you have any ideas?

    thanks
    wayne
    89 Univega HT -???-
    92 Specd SJ HT M2 -stolen-
    92 Specd SJ HT M2 -sold-
    94 Specd SJ HT M2 -sold-
    97 Klien Mantra -sold-
    01 Specd enduro FSR
    02 Specd enduro FSR -sold-
    04 Specd stumpjumper FSR
    05 Specd enduro FSR Sworks

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    I had a similar creak. I found it was my seat. I put a Ti rail WTB on my hardtail and heard it, but sort of blew it off. Then moved the seat to my FSR when I bought it and had the same creak. I had to crank down on the seat clamp to quiet it.

    Just my own experience/.02, FWIW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobG
    I had a similar creak. I found it was my seat. I put a Ti rail WTB on my hardtail and heard it, but sort of blew it off. Then moved the seat to my FSR when I bought it and had the same creak. I had to crank down on the seat clamp to quiet it.

    Just my own experience/.02, FWIW.
    Thanks Rob,

    Unfortunatley it does it w/the seat/post removed from the bike.

    wayne
    89 Univega HT -???-
    92 Specd SJ HT M2 -stolen-
    92 Specd SJ HT M2 -sold-
    94 Specd SJ HT M2 -sold-
    97 Klien Mantra -sold-
    01 Specd enduro FSR
    02 Specd enduro FSR -sold-
    04 Specd stumpjumper FSR
    05 Specd enduro FSR Sworks

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    Quote Originally Posted by wayneosdias
    Im a proud owner of a 2004 SJ FSR, my 5th Specialized bike. Unfortunatley, Im having some issues w/my bike. About 3 months after buying the bike it developed a creak that sounded like, "T T T", like something is cracking. I have taken it back to the dealer multiple times where they have performed the folowing:

    -bearing/bolt check
    -greased seat rails, seat post, stem bolts, rear hub, pedals and cranks
    -replaced headset -$80
    -replaced bottom bracket-$35
    -refaced/bored head tube -$85
    -suspension fork (Marzocchi Marathon) sent back to manufactuer

    None of these things have solved the problem and it continues to get worse,
    (louder/more frequent). It has gotten to the point Where my ridding
    partners dont want to ride w/me.

    The noise is inconsistant w/ pedaling, braking or suspension cycling, just random. The only consistant trait is that is becomes more appearant the longer I ride. This has made it difficult for the dealer to remedy.

    I can find no cracks or dents in the frame but noticed the following:

    Removing the the shock link from the seat stays and I the seat/chain
    stay assembly is off center to the drive side. All bolts were retorqed to
    correct specs. Once together the linkage is free from binding and is smooth,
    but the "Tick" is still there.

    Is it normal for the seat/chain stay assembly to be off center? Could this
    be my problem?

    I have also emailed this to Specd CS, but i simply get, "take it your your local Specd dealer".

    Do you have any ideas?

    thanks
    wayne
    Does it sound like it's coming from the front?
    I ask because Mine has a noise that comes from the carbon spacers under the stem. I hear it the most when I'm climbing and pulling on the handlebars.

    Jim D.
    04 Stumpjumper Expert Disc
    10 Marin San Rafael

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    Wayne,

    I am sorry to hear about your creak. I've seen this many, many times, often on my own bikes. I am usually pretty good at finding the creak, but I have to have the bike in hand.

    One time, our company Founder and President Mike Sinyard kept taking his bike down to our on-site mechanics because of a creak. It was coming from the front end. After about a week, no one could find it. Finally I stepped it and found it in 5 minutes. He had one of our steerer tube mounted computers, and the aluminum bracket between the stem and the top cap was the culprit. A little grease cure it right up.

    Sadly, I will not be able to discover your creak so easily over the Forum. Just keep doing what your doing and eventually you'll find it. Grease everything.

    The most common is head seat and bottom bracket. Make sure EVERY surface is greased. Cups into head tube, crown race onto fork, BB cups inside out and any spacers.

    Here are some areas you may not have thought of:

    -head set spacers, stem
    -derailleur hanger to frame dropout
    -pedals and/or shoe cleats
    -actual crack in frame - head tube or seat tube area (thought I've never seen this on your frame)
    -suspension spacers - grease both sides
    -chainring bolts - inside and out
    -shock bolts - grease threads and both sides of any washers.

    Also, there is always some misalignment in the rear triangle and shock mount. This is typical of welded assemblies. The frame and shock is designed to accept this, so don't worry. Also, this will not affect performance and is not likely the cause of your creak.

    Good Luck!

    JC

    Quote Originally Posted by wayneosdias
    Im a proud owner of a 2004 SJ FSR, my 5th Specialized bike. Unfortunatley, Im having some issues w/my bike. About 3 months after buying the bike it developed a creak that sounded like, "T T T", like something is cracking. I have taken it back to the dealer multiple times where they have performed the folowing:

    -bearing/bolt check
    -greased seat rails, seat post, stem bolts, rear hub, pedals and cranks
    -replaced headset -$80
    -replaced bottom bracket-$35
    -refaced/bored head tube -$85
    -suspension fork (Marzocchi Marathon) sent back to manufactuer

    None of these things have solved the problem and it continues to get worse,
    (louder/more frequent). It has gotten to the point Where my ridding
    partners dont want to ride w/me.

    The noise is inconsistant w/ pedaling, braking or suspension cycling, just random. The only consistant trait is that is becomes more appearant the longer I ride. This has made it difficult for the dealer to remedy.

    I can find no cracks or dents in the frame but noticed the following:

    Removing the the shock link from the seat stays and I the seat/chain
    stay assembly is off center to the drive side. All bolts were retorqed to
    correct specs. Once together the linkage is free from binding and is smooth,
    but the "Tick" is still there.

    Is it normal for the seat/chain stay assembly to be off center? Could this
    be my problem?

    I have also emailed this to Specd CS, but i simply get, "take it your your local Specd dealer".

    Do you have any ideas?

    thanks
    wayne

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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeWake

    Also, there is always some misalignment in the rear triangle and shock mount. This is typical of welded assemblies. The frame and shock is designed to accept this, so don't worry. Also, this will not affect performance and is not likely the cause of your creak.

    Good Luck!

    JC
    Thanks, good to know.

    The bike has been completely dis/reassembled twice now w/generous amounts of Park Grease. Just keep plugging away I guess.

    One thing I did notice was when replacing the BB that the screw that holds the front derailuer guide on the bottom of the bottom bracket cup is too long and hits the BB shell. Maybe torsional loads on the cranks is causing movement between the BB shell and that screw. Ill back the screw out a little and see if it goes away.

    thanks again
    Wayne
    89 Univega HT -???-
    92 Specd SJ HT M2 -stolen-
    92 Specd SJ HT M2 -sold-
    94 Specd SJ HT M2 -sold-
    97 Klien Mantra -sold-
    01 Specd enduro FSR
    02 Specd enduro FSR -sold-
    04 Specd stumpjumper FSR
    05 Specd enduro FSR Sworks

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    Not a bad idea. Couldn't hurt.

    JW

    Quote Originally Posted by wayneosdias
    Thanks, good to know.

    The bike has been completely dis/reassembled twice now w/generous amounts of Park Grease. Just keep plugging away I guess.

    One thing I did notice was when replacing the BB that the screw that holds the front derailuer guide on the bottom of the bottom bracket cup is too long and hits the BB shell. Maybe torsional loads on the cranks is causing movement between the BB shell and that screw. Ill back the screw out a little and see if it goes away.

    thanks again
    Wayne

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