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    Think I'm finally ready to pull the trigger on a Camber Pro. Planning to place my order tomorrow pending approval of the price we worked out tonight. Sounds like I'm probably only looking at a couple of days for them to get it in store, maybe by the weekend I'll have some pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dakkz
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    I'm planning to buy a Camber expert and i could use some advice about what size should i get - S or M?
    my measures: height 5'7", inseam 30", arms 24", weight 136lbs

    thanx in advance
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    Quote Originally Posted by dakkz
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    I'd take a wild ass guess and say a small but you're getting close to medium range. Either might work for you w/ proper adjustment of saddle and stem length,

    Definitely try to at least sit on both sizes and see which works better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dakkz
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    FWIW, I got the large. I am 6' 1" with a 32" inseam and the fit is very comfortable. HTH
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEH215
    FWIW, I got the large. I am 6' 1" with a 32" inseam and the fit is very comfortable. HTH
    I'm going w/ the L as well, 6'2" and a 33" inseam. Felt like it fit like a glove in my 2 days w/ the test bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Nitzerglobin
    I'd take a wild ass guess and say a small but you're getting close to medium range. Either might work for you w/ proper adjustment of saddle and stem length,

    Definitely try to at least sit on both sizes and see which works better.
    yup, thats my wild guess as well, it would be best to test them both i know, but local store doesn't have either of them, only L... so i'll have to order one (S or M) first and then see how it fits.

    Basically i was kinda hoping that some Camber owner who is around my size could give me some pointers how and what did he/she choose.

    Anyway correct me if i'm wrong - you are 6.2 and that's between L and XL and you choose to go with smaller frame, therefore i should go with smaller as well?

    thx 4 info,
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    Quote Originally Posted by dakkz
    yup, thats my wild guess as well, it would be best to test them both i know, but local store doesn't have either of them, only L... so i'll have to order one (S or M) first and then see how it fits.

    Basically i was kinda hoping that some Camber owner who is around my size could give me some pointers how and what did he/she choose.

    Anyway correct me if i'm wrong - you are 6.2 and that's between L and XL and you choose to go with smaller frame, therefore i should go with smaller as well?

    thx 4 info,
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    One thing I may mention is that using a water bottle on the large frame is a little tricky but can be done. You may want to check on the smaller frames....just an FYI
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    Hi folks: my Camber Expert. First photo 100% OEM in Vegas. 2nd photo with Monkeylite handlebar, 100mm FSA stem, GrabOn grips and WTB Rocket V Pro saddle in Sao Paulo. There are two mistakes in Specilialized's site: Reba solo air (it's dual: if not would be a Recon Gold with other sticker) and 90mm stem in M size (it's actual 75mm). 12.4kg




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    Quote Originally Posted by TEH215
    One thing I may mention is that using a water bottle on the large frame is a little tricky but can be done. You may want to check on the smaller frames....just an FYI
    no prob, hydration pack FTW

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    Quote Originally Posted by dakkz
    Anyway correct me if i'm wrong - you are 6.2 and that's between L and XL and you choose to go with smaller frame, therefore i should go with smaller as well?

    thx 4 info,
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    I don't think I'd even consider an XL in this frame for me. The large test bike felt just about perfect after raising the saddle 1.5" or so above the bars in the default setup the LBS had it at. Saddle was pretty far back on the rails, but KOPS and reach were very good and I believe I'll actually wind up w/ more set back on the post that comes w/ the Pro vs. the Expert that I tested so I should gain back a bit of tweaking range.

    I had gone w/ a 21" on my Rockhopper as the 19" felt too small and while it has been serving me well and I have achieved a pretty comfy fit on it overall, it's always seemed maybe a tad big and only afforded me 1.75-2" of standover.

    The advise I generally hear when between sizes is to go smaller rather than larger as it's often easier to correct your fit up than down. The smaller frames can also be a bit lighter and potentially slightly more maneuverable, but I'd say the fit would trump both of those for me.

    It's a bummer they don't have medium or a small you can at least sit on.

    Bottle clearance was definitely pretty tricky on the L. It took a concerted effort to navigate my bottle in and out of my Ribcage w/o tearing off the Pro Pedal lever. I might have to check out a side entry bottle cage or a shorter bottle as I like to carry a bottle of electrolyte/carb drink and do straight water in the Camelbak.

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    With a bike that is too small you can always get a longer stem and seatpost. You might look like a circus act, but you can ride it. With a bike that is too big, you're F'd.

    Beautiful pics Bikebr.

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    ok, Camber expert size S is on the way... upon arrival we'll see how's it hanging.
    I will post some pics and then we'll take it from there

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    Quote Originally Posted by dakkz
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    I'm 5'6" with a 30/31 inseem and I got a Medium. I found that I was between sizes according to the charts, but when I actually sat on the bikes the medium felt perfect.....

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    Woohoo! It's here!

    Camber Pro in Large
    27lbs, 15oz w/ XT M770 pedals, MK SS 2.4/2.2, Ergon GA1 grips, and a Zee Cage:


    Going to go get it dirty tonight after work .

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    Got a few more pics.

    After cleaning up after the inaugural night ride:


    A few from my ride out at John Bryan today. Pretty crazy ride, wound up w/ a quarter to half inch of muddy ice frozen to like every trailing edge on the bike and a ~4lb chunk between the linkage joints, seat tube, and FD by the time I got back to the car. This is gonna be fun to clean up...




    Bike performed great overall but had frozen out the FD by 2/3 of the way through my ride. The Mountain Kings actually wound up working really well in the snow.

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    For those of you that have one of these, would you consider it an aggressive XC bike/ light AM? Do you think it would handle some small jumps with landings and maybe once or twice a 4 foot or so drop with a landing? I'm looking for something to possibly replace my 08 FSRxc Comp that will still be nice for doing long 50 mile rides, but also enought bike to play around with here and there. I would be changing out the fork to one with a 15QR though if that makes a difference.

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    Awesome pics Sid! To a guy in Houston, that looks like a blast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkbikes4life
    For those of you that have one of these, would you consider it an aggressive XC bike/ light AM? Do you think it would handle some small jumps with landings and maybe once or twice a 4 foot or so drop with a landing? I'm looking for something to possibly replace my 08 FSRxc Comp that will still be nice for doing long 50 mile rides, but also enought bike to play around with here and there. I would be changing out the fork to one with a 15QR though if that makes a difference.
    Personally I'd call it a trail bike, so somewhere in between an XC and AM bike.

    Both the test bike and my Pro seemed solid to me landing jumps ~3.5 high or so to flat w/ the wacky OS 24 9mm QR. I'd imagine a 15mm axle would make things a bit stiffer and more durable. I'm about 210lbs. and the thing I'd worry the most about being able to handle this type of jumping/drops over the long term are the wheels, but they might do OK .
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    (Sigh) I wish I could get my bike that dirty :-) No stream crossings around here, and by the time the trails re-open after some rain, I have to actively hunt down remaining mud puddles!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Nitzerglobin
    Personally I'd call it a trail bike, so somewhere in between an XC and AM bike.

    Both the test bike and my Pro seemed solid to me landing jumps ~3.5 high or so to flat w/ the wacky OS 24 9mm QR. I'd imagine a 15mm axle would make things a bit stiffer and more durable. I'm about 210lbs. and the thing I'd worry the most about being able to handle this type of jumping/drops over the long term are the wheels, but they might do OK .
    Thanks for the respose. I was looking around and actually found that the Giant Trance may be more of what I'm looking for. Roughly the same price range and comes with the 15QR already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkbikes4life
    Thanks for the respose. I was looking around and actually found that the Giant Trance may be more of what I'm looking for. Roughly the same price range and comes with the 15QR already.
    Camber is essentially Specialized's Trance, I actually test rode an X2 in the process of picking out the Camber (just around the parking lot however, no demo bikes for Giant I could find at the local LBSs). I hear good things about the Trance for sure.

    I've been doing the same kind of jumps and hits on my Rockhopper w/ 9mm QR for a while now and have yet to break or bend one. The stock Alex RHD wheels have definitely got some issues at this point, but they were pretty crappy from the get go.

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    Just picked up my Camber Pro tonight. I will be swapping a few parts and then posting some pictures. I am putting on my Easton carbon bars, Thompson seat post and stem, then I will put it on the scale. Well what was the first ride like? Money well spent? I wont be riding here in Reno, NV for a few months, maybe time for a rode trip to some warmer weather.Your crazy man, $2800 bucks and you take it out in the snow, not me. Next summer I will be tearing it up. Sweet ride.

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    First ride was actually a night ride on Friday. The lower spots of the trail were still pretty soft so it was kind of a slow one. Feet got really cold so I picked a pair of these on Saturday since apparently nobody in this town carries winter MTB shoes.

    Sunday's ride was pretty darn fun, but very messy. I think I got some infintesimal inkling of what cyclocross might be like, albeit at a MUCH lower intensity level. The parts where the snow hadn't been worn through were actually the best from a grip perspective, still all in all if I made sure to brake in a straight line and keep my weight on the pedals things handled pretty well. Getting a little bit of slip angle on the rear end when taking turns at closer to the limits of traction felt pretty cool. The only major yikes moments came when the rear tire got deflected mid-turn off of roots that ran parallel to the trail a few times.

    The bike felt great, suspension seemed to stay consistent in its dynamics despite it being cold enough to freeze the spray to the frame pretty much instantly (~25F). About the only issue I ran into was the FD getting frozen out as I mentioned. This really wasn't a huge problem but as the ice started building up, the uphill parts through fresh snow became a pretty decent work out w/ 38x36 as my easiest gear combo. Still doable, just a bit tougher than I would usually tackle them with. If I had a 34 or 36T ring and a chain keeper I might consider going 1x10.

    I'm planning to continue to ride all winter, trail conditions permitting. We usually don't get feet of snow around here, and once the ground gets nice and frozen it should be a good deal less messy. Only thing that will screw me up is if we get the yoyo-ing temps w/ things constantly freezing and thawing and re-freezing or if it turns out to be mild enough to rain a bunch. Sub 20F temps w/ a lot of wind have a good chance to make my rides a good deal shorter and less frequent as well.

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    Hi all,

    I am planning to replace my old Giant NRS 3 frame with an Expert Camber one. Does someone know the bottom bracket spindle dimension used in the Camber? The Specialized website shows that the Expert model has a BB-ES25 bottom bracket and I know it has a 68 mm shell width, but have not been able to find the spindle dimension. Can anyone help?

    Thank you

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    Hi Bicimapas,
    please check the bottom bracket width. For me it seems to be 73mm. The Expert uses a standard outboard bearings, hollowtech type (probably a SM-BB50 or BB70), not the Octalink ES-25. Another mistake in Specialized's site...

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    Thanks Bikebr,
    I was told by the LBS mechanic that the Camber has a 68 mm shell. I will go back and measure it myself. I am planning to get a new crankset (the one on my NRS is 8 years old) so I may go with an external bearing version which can accomodate either shell size.

    Greetings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikebr
    Hi Bicimapas,
    please check the bottom bracket width. For me it seems to be 73mm. The Expert uses a standard outboard bearings, hollowtech type (probably a SM-BB50 or BB70), not the Octalink ES-25. Another mistake in Specialized's site...
    Same as for the FSR XC. The Specialized site was wrong so its always best to check yourself. No probs when you have a Hollowtech II though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkbikes4life
    For those of you that have one of these, would you consider it an aggressive XC bike/ light AM? Do you think it would handle some small jumps with landings and maybe once or twice a 4 foot or so drop with a landing? I'm looking for something to possibly replace my 08 FSRxc Comp that will still be nice for doing long 50 mile rides, but also enought bike to play around with here and there. I would be changing out the fork to one with a 15QR though if that makes a difference.
    The bike will do what you want and pretty well, but if you have a hankering to air and really rough trails, then you should get heavier wheels and rubber.

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    I am following up this thread for a while and thinking of to get a Camber Expert 26 er, I am riding a "13.5" Swiss Code hardtail" (I know it's too small for me), it's big step for me and I wanted a FS bike which can last me for at least next 5 years or life.

    I am 38 years chinese, 5.6"/ 156lb, my arm length 20.5" and inseam of 32", I am caught in between S or M size for Camber FSR; according to the chart, I should go for the "M" but I worried it will be too big for me. (I am learning to wheely and bunny hop now)

    Appreciate all the Camberer out there can give me some advice, thanx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samuel1996

    I am 38 years chinese, 5.6"/ 156lb, my arm length 20.5" and inseam of 32", I am caught in between S or M size for Camber FSR; according to the chart, I should go for the "M" but I worried it will be too big for me. (I am learning to wheely and bunny hop now)

    Appreciate all the Camberer out there can give me some advice, thanx.
    Hi Samuel,
    I'm going to assume that you can't get on a Camber to test ride, because this is by far your best bet. Do you have a Specialized dealer? If so, go get on an FSR XC and see how the S and M fit you. They're similar enough that you (and the dealer) will know the right size. If you're still on the fence, I would say get the smaller bike because you can always get a longer stem and/or seatpost on a bike that is too small. If you go too large, you're stuck with the frame dimensions. Good luck, and post some pics when you make your purchase!

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    Hi kwides,

    Thanks for your advice, there is a Specialized dealer here in Penang, Malaysia. But I guess they do not have the FSR XC, the Camber stock had just arrived 2 days ago and they are trying to assemble the S and M model for me to try out..

    I am so excited as I might go and try it out this afternoon, an early Christmas gift for me from my own wallet ^^

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    wow, gotta have one. think ill talk to the guy at the lbs tomorrow. on the layaway plan i should be able to swing a comp or an elite by april, just when id really want to start the season. nice that the pricepoint is actually obtainable. the bike is like a little brother to the stumpy, not an ugly half-stepchild like the fsr was.

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    How'd it go Samuel?

    I've never ridden in MY, but have a friend who rode in Singapore and said it was awesome.

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    Hi kwrides,

    Yeah, quite number of Singaporean will cross the strait to cycle in MY.. Cycling is getting popular here..

    Well, I tested both S and M size, I found S size is more comfortable, may be I get used to the smaller bike (My HT is only 13.5"). I felt M size is little too big, seems like bigger then me.. I will be travelling for the next 5 days so I will take some time to think about this.. Is it true that bigger bike are more stable when doing uphill climb? I am newbie and stuck in the sizing the right bike..

    I'm thinking of to go for Camber coz Specialized claimed that it is in between Epic and Stumpy, please share with me how's your Camber performance so far? Thanx..

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    I really like the bike, but I recommend saving up the coin to get the better models with a shock that has pro-pedal. Mine really bobs a lot on flats or when climbing. Sure, I can reach down and lock them it, but it's not convenient. I'm going to upgrade mine.

    I mostly ride on very rooty trails with a lot of tight angles. We have several ups and downs, but only of 20 feet or so. Biggest drop off is probably 3 feet. The bike excels in all those conditions, except for very steep climbs, where the bob gets in the way of progress.

    I'm very pleasantly surprised with the performance of the cheapo brakes and love the stock saddle and handlebar. The tires are ok, but slip a bit in dry conditions.

    I hope that helps. If you have specific questions, fire away.

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    Hey kwrides, I appreciate very much for your details explanation, this help a lot especially for a newbie like me.

    I guess I had make up my mind to go for the Expert model, but tomorrow I will drop by Kuala Lumpur Specialized concept shop (350KM south from where I live, travel by car of coz) to do the final test ride to see if the S size really suitable for me, if everything goes smooth, I am going to get a Specialized Camber Expert Silver/ Black by next Monday 20 Dec ^-^

    Thanx a lot!

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    Suppose to collect my S size Camber Expert today, but when I were there in the shop, the LBS told me I got to wait for another 4-5 days coz the Reba Fork has some manufacturing defect, they need to replace a new one.... sigh....

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    teeth #

    Does anybody know the size ( teeth ) of the Camber Pro 29er chainrings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlorga
    Does anybody know the size ( teeth ) of the Camber Pro 29er chainrings?
    Pretty sure they're 33/22

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    They seem bigger than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlorga
    They seem bigger than that.
    It's totally possible that they are. I'm just guessing at 33/22 as that's the size of the rings on the Stumpy FSR 29ers w/ 2x10s and the 2x10s of the Stumpy FSR 26ers aside from the EVO seem to be the same as the Camber Pro 26er. Epic Expert Carbon 29er and Sworks 29er have 38x24, but they are described as XC double cranksets, where as the Stumpy FSR and Camber Pro are listed as XC Trail double cranksets.

    I don't now how much bigger of a big ring I'd want for the 29" wheels on a 2x10 personally. Trying to torque up bigger hills in 32/36 on the 3x10 of the Epic Comp 29er I test rode for a couple of days was definitely giving a pretty substantial workout already. The 38/24 rings on my Camber Pro 26er have definitely encouraged me into using the FD alot more than I used to.

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    If they were 38/24, I would buy one, I need bigger than 33/22.

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    Spooky creaky BB

    Anybody else have a really creaky BB on a new Camber? I've got a Camber Expert that is creaking like a haunted house under any kind of load. I called my LBS and they said ride it a few more times then bring it in for a tune up. Is this think just loose? It creaks more than my 11 year old Stumpy M2 comp did!

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    Need to pick a Camber size

    I'm down to my short list for a new dual suspension bike. The Camber has made that list. Not sure what size I need. I'm on a 15.5 2009 stumpy hardtail right now which feels about right. However, I'm apparently overlap on S's susp. bikes b/w small/med. frames. I've ridden a small stumpy fsr comp for a day earlier in the year out in Vegas and have ridden a medium Camber for about 5 minutes. The med. felt pretty good and standover was Ok. What r u guys riding? I'm 5'7" w/ 29.5" inseam, 25.25" trunk and 25" arms I've done a fit calculator and it advised I need a bike w/ around 28.1"-28.7" of standover and a virtual TT of around 23.1-23.5
    Thanks!

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    My other half's a little shorter than you and she went for a medium as she preferred the extra room in the cockpit - though it's all down to personal preference. Happily it does mean that at 6', I can just about fit into it until I get my own bike sorted!

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    Great thread and awesome machines!



    I got one too, yesterday! Merry Christmas












    5'7" on a small, weight distribution felt more fun and confident.

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    Greater than Gravity,

    Sweet!!! Is that a Zee Cage? I cant find green color in Malaysia, can you help me to source one?

    Mine still in LBS awaiting for the Reba shock replacement. But I get them to change to Green Jagwire for the gear cable...I guess I have to wait for another 2- 3 days to bring her home..

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    Any idea what is the weight for the S size Camber Expert? 26lb?

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    Hey samuel, yes it is a Zee Cage! I got it at the LBS.

    Green cable housing is a good Idea! Can you post pics with the green cable housing when you get your bike? Im trying to find green hydraulic hoses for the brakes..

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    GTG/ Kwrides,

    My S size Camber Expert finally home, will bring her for a virgin ride in one hour time.. I am damn excited ^^

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