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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight511 View Post
    For me, I did replace the shifters. I put SRAM X0 Grip Shift on. When I change the brakes, I will order a set of Shimano XT trekking levers from Europe and use the XT brakes with finned pads.

    Why trekking levers? They are longer and should give much better hand position around the Gripshift.

    Shifters are a very personal thing to choose. You either like thumbs or grip shift. If you like thumbs, you either like Shimano or SRAM. For me, I liked Shimano thumbs but my hands always hurt after a ride, so I switched back to grip shift and it all went away.
    Nice to see real changes to make a bike personal.

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    After missing the deal I wanted on the reverb I kind of got sick of waiting to get the new post and swapped over my saddle to a Charge spoon anyway. It's white with red logo, so looks the part too.

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    I have been watching some YouTube vids on the Spesh SJ EVO, the UK one if it differs, anyway there isn't a UK camber EVO so wanted to ask:
    Was there a US camber EVO? (if so how did it differ from stock version)
    If not, has anyone made there own? ( if so, what changes did you make)

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    There was a good write up on the '13 camber 29er (base model) in this months Mt. Bike Action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dee View Post
    I have been watching some YouTube vids on the Spesh SJ EVO, the UK one if it differs, anyway there isn't a UK camber EVO so wanted to ask:
    Was there a US camber EVO? (if so how did it differ from stock version)
    If not, has anyone made there own? ( if so, what changes did you make)

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    There is currently a Camber Carbon Evo. The Evo appears to be set up more for XC racing than a normal Camber. Lighter front fork (SID), lighter wheels, drops the dropper seat post and higher gearing (38/24 vs 36/22). Those are the only real difference so far as I can see on the Spec site...
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    The EVO is a good direction for the camber I think, I would probably go that route over time. Or with a fox 34 with low travel, and syntace wide wheels and command post.

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    As it stands, I would LOVE to have a Fox 34 with 120mm travel...I think you can reduce the travel of the plain 34 FLOAT 29.... but the question is, can it be reduced enough... 120 or 110?
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    Here is my Camber EVO. This pic was taken when brand new. A similar bike was offered in Europe last year, 2013 is the first year in the states. I think Spec should offer it a 1 x 10 like the other EVO's . I recently converted mine. I think it is a great bike.

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    Please till me why should I pick the camber over giant trance 29er? Because I cant decide one over the other

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    New, i'd go with the the Trance.
    FWIW I've had a Trance 26 and currently ride a Reign. I bought the Camber 29er because it was used and cheap! I was looking at Anthems when I stumbled across mine. I was looking for more of an XC 29er and the Trance is more trail/AM

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    Depending on how big you are, the Trance has a pretty high leverage ratio compared to the Camber. A clydesdale "theoretically" will be better suited to the Camber. This was my case... I am a big guy and the Giant bikes stood no chance under me.... the pressures required in the rear shock were just too high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight511 View Post
    There is currently a Camber Carbon Evo. The Evo appears to be set up more for XC racing than a normal Camber. Lighter front fork (SID), lighter wheels, drops the dropper seat post and higher gearing (38/24 vs 36/22). Those are the only real difference so far as I can see on the Spec site...
    Thanks for that info. I had been thinking of 'EVO' as in beefed up/more rugged - didn't know Spesh used it for other types too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rularn View Post
    Please till me why should I pick the camber over giant trance 29er? Because I cant decide one over the other
    What sort of riding do you do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dee View Post
    What sort of riding do you do?

    Well I consider my self to be a well rounded rider, I ride everything between pure XC endurance racing to All mountain tours. My local trails is not pure XC nor pure AM, somewhere in between where a camber would be perfect. But I also want a bike that can handle a week or two in the alps where the terrain is a bit more rough.
    I think a bit more travel would help, but I dont want to take the XC potential away. Im not into competition in any way but a sumpjumper would be to much I guess when Im not doing these alptours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight511 View Post
    Depending on how big you are, the Trance has a pretty high leverage ratio compared to the Camber. A clydesdale "theoretically" will be better suited to the Camber. This was my case... I am a big guy and the Giant bikes stood no chance under me.... the pressures required in the rear shock were just too high.
    Im 192 cm and ~90 kgs (6'4 and 200 lbs), would that be to much for a Trance to handle? Damn, its to many good bikes out there

    The camber looks awesome, but I dont know how rough terrain it can handle. I've seen a few of them crack (seat tube). It doesnt mean that I'm not trusting specialized to offer me a new frame if that happen but the Camber might not be constructed for a week or two in the alps.
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    I think to beat trance is the stumpjumper fsr

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    At 200, you would be fine on just about any bike. Most mfgs plan on up to 250lbs.

    If I were your size, it would come more down to the LBS that would be supporting me. Around me, there are no shops selling Spec and Giant, so it would be one or the other (although some sell Spec and Trek).

    I really think the real comparison would be better made between the trance and the Stumpy FSR. Then you would simply need to test ride both and decide. The rear suspension is completely different and you may like one over the other by a good margin... read all you want online, but test ride everything you can before deciding, you will be happy you did.
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    At 200, you would be fine on just about any bike. Most mfgs plan on up to 250lbs.

    If I were your size, it would come more down to the LBS that would be supporting me. Around me, there are no shops selling Spec and Giant, so it would be one or the other (although some sell Spec and Trek).

    I really think the real comparison would be better made between the trance and the Stumpy FSR. Then you would simply need to test ride both and decide. The rear suspension is completely different and you may like one over the other by a good margin... read all you want online, but test ride everything you can before deciding, you will be happy you did.
    Test rides are key.... however, a test ride in a parking lot over some curbs or parking blocks, a few bunny hops... that doesn't tell you the whole story. Some shops offer a "demo program", you pay $X.XX and take the demo bike for a day, two days, three days, depending on what the shop offers... some will allow you to swap between the available demo bikes during the period of time you've paid for. A lot of times this money goes towards the purchase of a bike (not an extra cost). My advice... find a shop that will let you demo these bikes, ideally one shop with both, or, find a friend(s) with these bikes who will let you swap with him out on the trail and get at least a good 15-20 minutes of saddle time, on dirt, over rocks, at speed..... get some climbs, get some descents. If you can get a real back to back experience on the bikes, you'll know which you like better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GR1822 View Post
    There was a good write up on the '13 camber 29er (base model) in this months Mt. Bike Action.
    The January issue? I looked at it on the newsstand and could not find a review.

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    February maybe? I just got it at home last week. Read it and threw it away. Do home subscriptions get released before newsstands or visa versa? There was a good review of the Trance 29er too.

    Edit: I just looked it up online, and it's the Feb issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iridethedirt View Post
    Test rides are key.... ~snip~.
    I should have been more clear.... take them on a demo ride. That's what made my mind up on a FS over a HT... I paid $50 to demo ride a base 2012 Camber 29 and the money was applied to the new bike purchase.

    If one shop doesn't have both, just chalk the $50 you *may* lose to one shop or the other riding both bikes as to a cost incurred in making sure you were 100% happy. Money well spent IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GR1822 View Post
    February maybe? I just got it at home last week. Read it and threw it away. Do home subscriptions get released before newsstands or visa versa? There was a good review of the Trance 29er too.

    Edit: I just looked it up online, and it's the Feb issue.

    It is February, I have it on Ipad. It is base 3 ring Camber, 32.2lbs. still a good review of a Camber's capabilities.

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    Does anyone know if the 110 mm Fox Float on the 2012 Camber Comp can be changed to 120 mm?

    Fox doesn't offer any 110 mm forks, which makes me think that this is a 120 mm fork with a spacer in it. Is this true?

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    Okay Camber owners -- I have been struggling over which bike to get for months. I have cleaned out my garage to the point where I only have 1 bike in the quiver (I wake up with cold sweats on a regular basis) and want to add a FS 29er. My single ride is a '12 S-Works HT.

    I've been riding 20 years and have the skills to ride my HT anywhere I want to go, but enjoy having options. I would say I'm an aggressive XC type that enjoys the reward of carving a nice descent after the climb. I am drawn to the Camber on paper, but it's just not quite calling out to me in-person (throwing a leg over).

    Am I missing anything between the '13 Epic Marathon and either a '13 Camber Expert or Camber Expert EVO R -- again XC instincts pointing to EVO R. Really want to hear how well the Camber climbs compared to the Epic or my current HT.

    Thanks in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dokhan View Post
    Does anyone know if the 110 mm Fox Float on the 2012 Camber Comp can be changed to 120 mm?

    Fox doesn't offer any 110 mm forks, which makes me think that this is a 120 mm fork with a spacer in it. Is this true?
    Still waiting on somebody to pull thier forks apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhtopilko View Post
    Still waiting on somebody to pull thier forks apart.
    I would think that someone on here knows.

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    I went from an 08 stumpy HT to a Camber EVO R. The ride is so much better but I wouldn't say it is faster. I tried the Epic but it kind of beat me up. I am an old guy so this bike suits me just fine. I'm not an expert but it's hard to beat an epic for climbing. If you're in to speed probably the Epic. Good fast paced trail riding the Camber. It does do a good job going downhill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjcsocal View Post
    Okay Camber owners -- I have been struggling over which bike to get for months. I have cleaned out my garage to the point where I only have 1 bike in the quiver (I wake up with cold sweats on a regular basis) and want to add a FS 29er. My single ride is a '12 S-Works HT.

    I've been riding 20 years and have the skills to ride my HT anywhere I want to go, but enjoy having options. I would say I'm an aggressive XC type that enjoys the reward of carving a nice descent after the climb. I am drawn to the Camber on paper, but it's just not quite calling out to me in-person (throwing a leg over).

    Am I missing anything between the '13 Epic Marathon and either a '13 Camber Expert or Camber Expert EVO R -- again XC instincts pointing to EVO R. Really want to hear how well the Camber climbs compared to the Epic or my current HT.

    Thanks in advance.
    how did you get down to just 1 bike??? i am impressed ...

    i have a 2011 camber pro 29er [the root beer and white one] and i can go most places on it ... it has way more capabilities than i have and i don't push it to the limit ... i am 51 and ride for pleasure rather than hammer like i used to ... it is just a really comfortable all round bike ...

    i have ridden the epic carbon ... it is a very fast bike indeed, but it was uncomfortable after about 40mins ...
    the s-works stumper ht was too twitchy for me ... plus i tried to pull a wheelie and the front kept coming over and it dumped me on my a$$
    i have ridden an anthem, it was okay, but nothing to rave over ...
    i spent some time on a carbon xtc, i did like that bike a lot ...

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    Just got my girlfriend a Camber Comp. She's been on a Myka hard tail. She's 5'5" and we got her a small. It's been zero degrees here for the past week so she hasn't had a chance to try it out other than up and down the street a couple of times, but she says she notices a major difference just in riding over curbs, and up the stairs to our porch and she's really excited to get on the trails. It's supposed to warm up so we'r'e planning on riding this weekend. I'll let you know how it goes.

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    Just picked up a 2012 Camber Expert last night in the January sales. I'd been saving for this one for a while so was glad to be able to bag one with £650 off original list.

    It's currently sat upside-down in my lounge looking very shiny and new whilst I await a new shock-pump from Wiggle.

    Quick question - can anybody tell me what manuals came with their Camber? I only got the basic 'Specialized Bicycle Owner's Manual' but that can't be all there should ahve been? I'd expect shock setup guides at least?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tPIC View Post
    Just picked up a 2012 Camber Expert last night in the January sales. I'd been saving for this one for a while so was glad to be able to bag one with £650 off original list.

    It's currently sat upside-down in my lounge looking very shiny and new whilst I await a new shock-pump from Wiggle.

    Quick question - can anybody tell me what manuals came with their Camber? I only got the basic 'Specialized Bicycle Owner's Manual' but that can't be all there should ahve been? I'd expect shock setup guides at least?

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tPIC View Post
    Quick question - can anybody tell me what manuals came with their Camber? I only got the basic 'Specialized Bicycle Owner's Manual' but that can't be all there should ahve been? I'd expect shock setup guides at least?

    Thanks.
    I just got basic info for my 2013, but I don't really have to worry with shock set up. here is the 2012 suspension set up guide:

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    Many thanks for the links guys. It's good that Specialized make them all available on-line. I'll grab what I need from there. It's not quite the same though, I'm a bit old school and like the have paperwork to flick throughat my leisure.

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    I also appreciate (Knight511) the posting of this on the site. I have it in paper form from a co rider but now I can keep it and maybe even get it laminated for protection. Thanks again. By the way, still very happy with my Camber Comp. Just don't have enough time lately to ride as much as I would like but that will make the bike last that much longer over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tPIC View Post
    Many thanks for the links guys. It's good that Specialized make them all available on-line. I'll grab what I need from there. It's not quite the same though, I'm a bit old school and like the have paperwork to flick throughat my leisure.
    Print them out.

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    I printed, laminated and pinned them to my garage wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dee View Post
    I printed, laminated and pinned them to my garage wall.
    I just saved the PDF on my phone. Not that I haven't memorized the pressures by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Quint View Post
    I just saved the PDF on my phone. Not that I haven't memorized the pressures by now.
    So hav I but I did the garage wall thing to irritate my riding buddies

    Also, my dad runs the same forks on his KHS HT (Reba RL but his are 100mm) so if he comes round he can quickly look up his too without reading it off the fork

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by abelfonseca View Post
    Here is a video I made of the way back from a long climb we did last Saturday with our group. Its a twisty downhill through what you guys would call fire roads. Its nothing technical nor am I going way fast but it was somewhat muddy and slippery and very fun. I almost lost it at 3:48, yay!.


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    Very nice video - I would love to come down there and spend some time riding the mountain roads. Yours is a beautiful country and reminds me of rural areas here in the States.

    We just added another Camber to the stable. I've owned an '11 Elite 29er since new (April '11) and have been scouring the area for a Medium for my wife. As luck would have it, one of our local shops had a closeout demo Medium tucked away in a forgotten corner. It came home ultimately to join the increasing collection.

    Pics of both when I hit 10 posts. Need to find us some fireroads on which to play...

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    I have a 2011 Camber comp 26" with Ario rl rear shock. The 2011 air chart on Spec. website is only a general guideline. The chart says 140 Lb rider you fill shock to 115 psi. I was running 110 thinking I was setup, wrong. My lBS asked me if I ride my bike with that much air all the time, I said yep for the last year now! any way they put me back on the bike and dropped air down to 90-95 psi. Holy crap what a difference. Chart is good but dont live by it like i did.

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    Im thinking of buying a camber 29er but im not sure if a should go for a large or an XL. Im 192 cm tall with 92 cm instem, I guess thats equal to 6 feet 3 inches with 36 inch instem.

    Any advice?

    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by rularn View Post
    Im thinking of buying a camber 29er but im not sure if a should go for a large or an XL. Im 192 cm tall with 92 cm instem, I guess thats equal to 6 feet 3 inches with 36 inch instem.

    Any advice?

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    i am 191cm with a 90cm inseam, i ride an XL camber, i find it fits great

    i probably could fit the L with a longer headstem, although i rode an L sized stumpjumper hardtail and i ended up with a sore back after half and hour of riding ... i rode the XL sized one a few months later and had no issues [other than it was very light and i flipped it when i tried to do a wheelie, but thats a whole other issue!] ... not a scientific test really, but i went for the XL and have had no issues with fit ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rularn View Post
    Im thinking of buying a camber 29er but im not sure if a should go for a large or an XL. Im 192 cm tall with 92 cm instem, I guess thats equal to 6 feet 3 inches with 36 inch instem.

    Any advice?

    Thank you
    yep! I do have advice! Find a specialized dealer, find someone who will take the time to set the bike up properly (if they don't take out a shock pump, they aren't doing it right!) and test ride both sizes. Better yet, if you can find a spec. dealer with a demo fleet, see if you can not only test ride both sizes, but take a size large (they will not have XL demos) out for a demo on some actual trails. The experience of riding the bike offroad, on a ride that lasts as long as your normal ride will be more valuable to telling you what size you need, that anything that I, or anybody else could tell you on this site.

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    Size is dependent on inseam. Some people have longer legs some people have longer torsos. I suggest you go to a shop ant "try" both sizes on to see which one fits you best. At 5'8" I should be on a medium, however I am on a small due to the short leg syndrome. From what hoogie posts the XL is certainly the right choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iridethedirt View Post
    yep! I do have advice! Find a specialized dealer, find someone who will take the time to set the bike up properly (if they don't take out a shock pump, they aren't doing it right!) and test ride both sizes. Better yet, if you can find a spec. dealer with a demo fleet, see if you can not only test ride both sizes, but take a size large (they will not have XL demos) out for a demo on some actual trails. The experience of riding the bike offroad, on a ride that lasts as long as your normal ride will be more valuable to telling you what size you need, that anything that I, or anybody else could tell you on this site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rularn View Post
    Im thinking of buying a camber 29er but im not sure if a should go for a large or an XL. Im 192 cm tall with 92 cm instem, I guess thats equal to 6 feet 3 inches with 36 inch instem.

    Any advice?

    Thank you
    6'4" with 34" inseam - went with an XL and either a 100 or 120mm stem, length depending on the bars I'm running and the stem angle.

    Fits like a glove.

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    I am just under 6' with 32 " in-seam. I ride an L. It fits good. I changed to a 70mm stem. I can still get behind the seat on technical downhill stuff. I am real happy with this bike. All my friends ride Epics. I prefer the Camber.
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    Thank you all very much

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    Just bought a 13 Camber Carbon Comp Love the bike but...... Was given a Reverb, internal routing is useless. Why couldn't Specialize make the routing hole a little bigger to accomadate Hydro cable? I don't get? I see this topic was touched upon here . For the record Jag Wire Hydro cable" Does Not Fit" into the routing hole. Have to run it outside

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