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    Quote Originally Posted by PVR
    Still waay too shiny. Are you riding it?
    hell yeah i am!
    it gets a healthy dose of Pedro's bike lust after every ride.

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    i have a sinus infection and can't ride and it sucks.
    just wanted everyone to know that.
    carry on.

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    Man up and ride!

    I get horrible sinus infections all the time and I still ride.

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    i usually do too....but this one sucks hardcore.
    i left work early for the first time in a few years yesterday.
    kicking my ass.

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    Just picked mine up yesterday - Camber Elite 29er

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    I've had a Camber Comp since mid September and am impressed with the geo but it is time to lighten it up and install some higher end components. I should of waited and just ordered an Elite but it was an impulse buy and just had to have it that day. Most of my riding is all over Texas.
    So far my list is:

    Stans Arch laced to Hope pro II tubliss
    Carbon bars ??
    Carbon Post ??
    Formula Brakes
    Forks ??
    Rear shock ??
    Stem ??
    and I am also wanting to change out the whole drive drain most likely to XTR

    If you could build your camber any way you wanted on a budget around $2K what would you do?

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    thomson post
    ritchey wcs stem
    bars are a preference, but i wouldn't go carbon
    formula r1 brakes
    arch to proII's is good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco0220
    I've had a Camber Comp since mid September and am impressed with the geo but it is time to lighten it up and install some higher end components. I should of waited and just ordered an Elite but it was an impulse buy and just had to have it that day. Most of my riding is all over Texas.
    So far my list is:

    Stans Arch laced to Hope pro II tubliss
    Carbon bars ??
    Carbon Post ??
    Formula Brakes
    Forks ??
    Rear shock ??
    Stem ??
    and I am also wanting to change out the whole drive drain most likely to XTR

    If you could build your camber any way you wanted on a budget around $2K what would you do?

    A total of $2k or $2k worth of upgrades? No offense, but I would put the bike up for sale or try taking it back - I know one of the LBS in Dallas area has a 30 day exchange. I would then buy the Elite and have less $ involved in upgrading.

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    lol @ hannah montana username.

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    All in fun

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    do you put on a blonde wig and noone is able to recognize you?

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    So...I'm going to be the negative nancy in this thread. Stoked for all of you that got your bikes and I hope you enjoy them a ton! but....I test rode a 29er Camber at Rockville Park last week for an event my shop had. I set sag up appropriately and have ridden a stumpy fsr 26" and now my 2011 enduro.
    Does anyone who has a 29er Camber find it extremely uncomfortable in the saddle? It had the proper saddle size, 143mm and with proper sag set up, I still found the bike a pain to ride. Hopefully im just weird and no one else feels the same way, but I was curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HannahMontana
    A total of $2k or $2k worth of upgrades? No offense, but I would put the bike up for sale or try taking it back - I know one of the LBS in Dallas area has a 30 day exchange. I would then buy the Elite and have less $ involved in upgrading.
    Usually in the past I have built from frame my last bike was a Yeti 575 and a Stumpy FSR before that, like I said it was an impulse buy, plus I have a very bad habit of not being able to leave anything alone (from firearms to cars and anything in between) no matter what parts are on it from the factory, even if I had waited for the elite I would do the same to an extent, I guess I get more satisfaction in upgrading than the initial purchase lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco0220
    Usually in the past I have built from frame my last bike was a Yeti 575 and a Stumpy FSR before that, like I said it was an impulse buy, plus I have a very bad habit of not being able to leave anything alone (from firearms to cars and anything in between) no matter what parts are on it from the factory, even if I had waited for the elite I would do the same to an extent, I guess I get more satisfaction in upgrading than the initial purchase lol

    I know that feeling. My Comp was an impulse (should have done the Elite). Have upgraded shifters and rear der., seatpost and wheels (had to do the wheels -the crappy 445 bent..)

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    don't worry guys...i got the elite and still changed almost everything on it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy
    don't worry guys...i got the elite and still changed almost everything on it!
    so you know what I mean, plus for some reason the gold/white/and black just caught my eye

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    it's just the way 99% of bike guys are.
    a bike can come spec'd with awesome stuff, but it's human nature to have something unique!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larno
    Heya, I know this post is weeks old and was probably the case at the time but the elite comes in 2 colour combo's now well atleast there were 2 options avalible to me here in New Zealand. I just picked up my elite at lunchtime like 3 hours ago and its sitting in my car while im stuck at work! man i can't wait to get home tonight hehe, I'll post up some pics of mine later on but I went for this colour in the Camber elite, it looks awesome, its a bronze'ish and black combo, the rear shock isnt white in Rl though its blck with the roxshox logo on it:


    I wish I had that color option when I got mine. I'm fine with the white, I just like that one better (maybe I'd feel the same way about the white if I had gotten that one first). I actually like the Comp's scheme the best.

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    Hey rjg5......did you notice a difference with swapping out the 445 wheels??

    They seem pretty light and sturdy to me so far.....but would be willing to get some new ones if the weight difference and handling was noticeable.

    The wheels look to be weighing in at about 1900 grams for the set, but wasn't sure if it would be worth dropping $500 to save 200-300 grams of weight.

    I don't have much experience or knowledge in the wheelset department.

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    BSpate - I ended up with heavier wheels (Azonic Outlaws at 2310 grams) but I love them. I don't notice any wieght issue, but I do notice the lack of flex, which I like.

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    Help me out here guys:
    I looked at a Camber Elite today and thought it was very nice. I come from a bmx and dj background. I've owned and raced bmx xc cyclocross and road. The only full sus I've owned was a GT from '93. I am very used to and prefer the solid stiff feel of an aluminum hardtail that is very quick handling ala bmx. That said, age and old injuries are catching up so my lower back is more open to another full sus. I've test ridden one 29er HT and didn't like it at all. I actually went in today to look at a light 26 HT. They sold it so I was looking around and the Camber just looked sweet. So now I'm really thinking hard about this bike. I live in very flat terrain with tight techy trails. Tons of roots and sand. At least 50% of my riding will be on roads, paths, and commuting. I pretty sure I want a 26 but I'm just not sure if I want to go HT or FS. I'll do some small jumps and drops but my extreme days are behind me. And finally, the weight of it. Almost 30lbs and my current bike is barely 20 but fully rigid.

    All of that said, I guess my questions are: do you think I'd enjoy this bike? Should I give 29 HT more thought? A 26 HT or maybe a lighter 26 FS?

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    it has dual lockout on all models...won't be IDEAL for road, but it'll be better than bouncy bouncy...

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    HT all the way

    Like Johnny the Boy said, a Camber won't be ideal for road riding. Personally, I don't own a Camber, but I am extremely interested in purchasing one in the future (probably next year). If you're road riding 50% of the time, then I would use the $1800 that you'd spend on a Camber Elite and get either a lower end Stumpy HT or a high end Rockhopper. From the type of riding you do, I think that a quality HT will serve you better than a FS. Just my 2cents.
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    OK guys, I'm really having a hard time deciding what bike to get and need help. Leaning Camber (that's why I'm here) but nagged by the Stumpy FSR comp. Price aside, would you go Camber Expert, or Stumpy FSR comp? My last bike was a '98 M4 Stumpy hard tail. I rode it until this year and don't buy bikes often. I mostly ride XC trials and rarely ever jump. Just need to soak up the bumps on my beat up back. These would mostly be 2 to 5 inch tall roots, occasional 1 foot drops, and general single track small bumps. I test road a Camber comp but no LBS has FSR comps to test. I do some off road tri's but am a mid-packer at most races. I am worried that the FSR might feel weird having all that travel. Then again, the Camber isn't that much less travel wise. I'm sure either one would "work" but I want some honest opinions. This will be the bike I ride for the next 5 year at least. So, Camber Expert or Stumpy FSR comp? Thanks for your advice

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    I honestly think it's really close Scooper. I would ride both, but you've said you can't do that. The Stumpy has better components and more travel, but costs a bit more. I have a Camber Comp, and I hate the rear shock, but the Expert does not have the Ario.

    Sorry that's no help, but thought I'd say I think between these two it comes down to personal choice, not which is better. If money was not an argument, I would buy the Stumpy with more travel.

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    Just ordered a 29er pro model. Nice rootbeer and white color. Pro model has the front and rear fox shocks, carbon SRAM cranks. Should help with the weight a little...

    Anyone ride a camber pro or have any info on weight??

    LBS said it should be in early December!!

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    What is weird is that the ONLY thing I am hesitant about the Stumpy is the extra travel? Maybe it isn't that big of a deal. Am I crazy (loaded question) for not wanting too much travel? Problem is I am ignorant of FS to a large degree. Wish I could ride em both. Or buy them both!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy
    28lbs 10oz outta the box
    27lbs 10oz currently
    Nice lookin' bike.

    What did all the upgrades cost ya ?

    For $250 more you coulda got the Expert, which would have upgraded the fork to the Reba, and dropped about a lb right away wouldn't it ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooper
    What is weird is that the ONLY thing I am hesitant about the Stumpy is the extra travel? Maybe it isn't that big of a deal. Am I crazy (loaded question) for not wanting too much travel? Problem is I am ignorant of FS to a large degree. Wish I could ride em both. Or buy them both!

    Not at all. I would be all over a Stumpy FSR EVO myself if it had 20mm less travel.

    As it is I'm about 50/50 on whether to do the SJ and spacer down the fork and shock or order a Camber Pro and slap an RP23, X.0 RD, X9 shifters, and some new wheels on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Nitzerglobin
    Not at all. I would be all over a Stumpy FSR EVO myself if it had 20mm less travel.

    As it is I'm about 50/50 on whether to do the SJ and spacer down the fork and shock or order a Camber Pro and slap an RP23, X.0 RD, X9 shifters, and some new wheels on it.
    What's the difference between the triad 3 thst is on the pro and the rp 23? Looks like they both have the 3 position pro pedal and the adjustable rebound..

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    RP23 has an additional 3 positions worth of tweaking for the Pro Pedal setting. Triad seemed fine to me however in my 2 days w/ a Camber Expert test bike, so the shock would be more of a want vs. need thing.

    I think I'd definitely want to swap shifters (and RD as a result) right off the bat as I was unable to get the brake levers setup inboard of the shifters w/o having the down shift triggers constantly digging into my thumbs.

    Wheels I'm mostly just concerned about long term durability on. I run about 210 lbs w/ a 3/4 full Camelbak and a bottle and while I don't get huge amounts of air, I do like to get air under my tires as often as possible. If they had the Roval Control Trails from the Stumpy in blue, I'd probably see if I could get the LBS to do a swap for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Nitzerglobin
    RP23 has an additional 3 positions worth of tweaking for the Pro Pedal setting. Triad seemed fine to me however in my 2 days w/ a Camber Expert test bike, so the shock would be more of a want vs. need thing.
    I was originally buying the elite, but after going home and looking at the pro I really liked the component upgrades but wasn't looking to drop 3k on a new bike. Went back the next day and he gave me a great deal on the pro 29er for only $500 more than what I was getting the elite for...I think for the shock upgrades, carbon cranks, 2x10 drive, and a couple other touches it was well worth it...

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    2011 Camber Elite to go along with my 2008 Bighit III.
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    Here she is!

    After 11 years on an M2 hard tail, I took the plunge. Sold a few things, saved some, and got an early X-mas. I'll ride later and see how she does on some single track!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooper
    After 11 years on an M2 hard tail, I took the plunge. Sold a few things, saved some, and got an early X-mas. I'll ride later and see how she does on some single track!
    What model is that? I haven't seen sliver with red trim yet. Looks sweet.

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    It is an Expert model. It is actually the "test bike" color but Specialized had it up for two weeks as an American color choice by mistake. When I had my LBS order one, they sent the black and red instead. Thinking they had made a mistake, we got in touch. Long story short I was able to get them to send a test bike color. The red and black is called "Red and Black." The test bike is called "Red and Black Test Bike." So the names through everyone off. Anyway, I was glad the get the one I was after. It is about 28 pounds according to my very non-scientific scale with the test pedals. Might be less with my Xt's.

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    Awesome. Not only is it a cool color scheme, but fairly unique among US riders.

    I saw a different color scheme for the Elite on Spesh's site, briefly. I like the white/red fine (I actually like the Comp's scheme the best), but would have preferred the alternatives color scheme if it were available. I don't see the non-white Elite model on their site any more. Was that a mistake for US customers, too?

    For that matter, why do they -- a US company -- offer different color schemes only outside the US?

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    Good question. It seems like they would save money by having a standard color set for everything. I guess they research focus groups to see what people want. The one funny thing is that on my bike there were no stickers on the fork whatsoever. Not a big deal, but nothing indicated what kind of for it is other than the little "powered by SRAM" sticker on the back of one of the legs. Maybe being a test bike they don't put those on? Seems to be the right fork, just no stickers.

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    Ride report

    I took it out today once I got home. I goofed with the seat post height until I got it set right, then ran a few out and backs on a trail. At first, the rear felt like I had a flat tire or was peddling through mud. I couldn't figure out why. With the shock locked out, everything was fine. This is my first FS bike and I'm sure it takes some getting used to, but it felt weird. I rode back home and checked the pressure. It was low for my weight (198). I ran it up to what the manual said and it rode much much better. As for the seating, it is way upright compared to my M2 hard tail. Kind of nice on the back, but I may get a longer stem to get back to a familiar position, more over the front tire. I felt like I was "behind" the front tire instead of on top of it. I think sliding the seat forward and getting a longer stem will get me there. The bike rides great and weighs about 28 pounds. I can't wait to take it out on a long ride. This bike also is about 2 inches longer than my M2. I have a short bed with a bed rail form clamp. The rear tire hits the tailgate now where my old bike had plenty of room behind it. This will probably mean a more stable ride hopefully not at the expense of being "flickable". Overall I am very happy with it. I rode a few bikes that cost a lot more and this one feels really great comparatively. I never rode an EPIC, but I assume it would be more "racey" in geometry than I need. The Stumpy was more expensive and had a lot of travel. This bike seems to hit a sweet spot for me. I occasionally race but mostly just ride trails and like to be out there getting a good workout while taking in the scenery. I would recommend this bike if you are on the fence. If you are mostly a racer, take a look at the EPICs. If you hit hard drops and like the jumps, maybe the Stumpy FSR. But for me, the Camber is it. More reviews after I get a real ride in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooper
    Good question. It seems like they would save money by having a standard color set for everything. I guess they research focus groups to see what people want. The one funny thing is that on my bike there were no stickers on the fork whatsoever. Not a big deal, but nothing indicated what kind of for it is other than the little "powered by SRAM" sticker on the back of one of the legs. Maybe being a test bike they don't put those on? Seems to be the right fork, just no stickers.
    I think that's probably because the Test Bikes would usually have the green stickered Reba from the silver/black color schemed Expert.



    Kinda weird as the black/red scheme's fork would work perfectly w/ the Test Bike scheme. I was definitely puzzled as to why they would intentionally mismatch the colors, but apparrently all the Test Bikes are that way according to the LBS guys.

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    That IS weird. One other thing that didn't make sense: The Specialized website says it has a "single air" fork. But mine has a small sticker that says "dual air" on it. There are valves at the top and bottom of the left leg to attach a pump to with recommendations on how much to set each based on weight. Is the Specialized site wrong? Or do I have some mutant fork with dual air?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooper
    That IS weird. One other thing that didn't make sense: The Specialized website says it has a "single air" fork. But mine has a small sticker that says "dual air" on it. There are valves at the top and bottom of the left leg to attach a pump to with recommendations on how much to set each based on weight. Is the Specialized site wrong? Or do I have some mutant fork with dual air?
    Nope it's definitely a dual air. I don't think they make a Reba that isn't dual air (not sure about the Reba Brain actually).

    Definitely a screw up on the Specialized site.

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    Is it normal for the fork to make a "sucking" sound on the rebound? If I set it to a fast rebound, it doesn't do it. But if get about 25% toward Mr. Turtle, it gets loud when recovering from bigger hits, getting worse the slower you set it.

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    Yes,you will hear the sucking sound. Good description, btw. Sounds like taking a short, sharp, breath in.

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    My Camber after a short trail ride

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    Hello,

    Is the weight of the Camber frame known ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Nitzerglobin
    Not at all. I would be all over a Stumpy FSR EVO myself if it had 20mm less travel.

    As it is I'm about 50/50 on whether to do the SJ and spacer down the fork and shock or order a Camber Pro and slap an RP23, X.0 RD, X9 shifters, and some new wheels on it.
    The 2011 Epic has an EVO model with 120mm and it is one sweet looking bike! I am interested in this as well as the SJ models

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    Well, I took my son to the LBS "to pick up his (my old) bike which needed new tires". This was the day before his 15th birthday. While the old KHS is still Ok, it is now too small for him and I have been putting money down on a Camber since August. He did get a nice surprise and is very happy with it after one ride. I took it out myself and personally would reduce the shock and fork pressures, raise the saddle and alter his cleats to allow a sl more toe-out (neutral) position. It feels really good. A real bargain for the ride and frame quality. Sadly, now he may not just be bigger than me, but faster.

    The DT wheels (same as the ones Sid Nitzerglobin has in his pic) have a strip of yellow rim tape. It looks like they are tubeless compatible. Is that true? He has already had his first flat.

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    hello
    I'm planning to buy a Camber expert and i could use some advice about what size should i get - S or M?
    my measures: height 5'7", inseam 30", arms 24", weight 136lbs

    thanx in advance
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridnparadise
    Well, I took my son to the LBS "to pick up his (my old) bike which needed new tires". This was the day before his 15th birthday. While the old KHS is still Ok, it is now too small for him and I have been putting money down on a Camber since August. He did get a nice surprise and is very happy with it after one ride. I took it out myself and personally would reduce the shock and fork pressures, raise the saddle and alter his cleats to allow a sl more toe-out (neutral) position. It feels really good. A real bargain for the ride and frame quality. Sadly, now he may not just be bigger than me, but faster.

    The DT wheels (same as the ones Sid Nitzerglobin has in his pic) have a strip of yellow rim tape. It looks like they are tubeless compatible. Is that true? He has already had his first flat.
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    Think I'm finally ready to pull the trigger on a Camber Pro. Planning to place my order tomorrow pending approval of the price we worked out tonight. Sounds like I'm probably only looking at a couple of days for them to get it in store, maybe by the weekend I'll have some pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dakkz
    hello
    I'm planning to buy a Camber expert and i could use some advice about what size should i get - S or M?
    my measures: height 5'7", inseam 30", arms 24", weight 136lbs

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    I'd take a wild ass guess and say a small but you're getting close to medium range. Either might work for you w/ proper adjustment of saddle and stem length,

    Definitely try to at least sit on both sizes and see which works better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dakkz
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    FWIW, I got the large. I am 6' 1" with a 32" inseam and the fit is very comfortable. HTH
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEH215
    FWIW, I got the large. I am 6' 1" with a 32" inseam and the fit is very comfortable. HTH
    I'm going w/ the L as well, 6'2" and a 33" inseam. Felt like it fit like a glove in my 2 days w/ the test bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Nitzerglobin
    I'd take a wild ass guess and say a small but you're getting close to medium range. Either might work for you w/ proper adjustment of saddle and stem length,

    Definitely try to at least sit on both sizes and see which works better.
    yup, thats my wild guess as well, it would be best to test them both i know, but local store doesn't have either of them, only L... so i'll have to order one (S or M) first and then see how it fits.

    Basically i was kinda hoping that some Camber owner who is around my size could give me some pointers how and what did he/she choose.

    Anyway correct me if i'm wrong - you are 6.2 and that's between L and XL and you choose to go with smaller frame, therefore i should go with smaller as well?

    thx 4 info,
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    Quote Originally Posted by dakkz
    yup, thats my wild guess as well, it would be best to test them both i know, but local store doesn't have either of them, only L... so i'll have to order one (S or M) first and then see how it fits.

    Basically i was kinda hoping that some Camber owner who is around my size could give me some pointers how and what did he/she choose.

    Anyway correct me if i'm wrong - you are 6.2 and that's between L and XL and you choose to go with smaller frame, therefore i should go with smaller as well?

    thx 4 info,
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    One thing I may mention is that using a water bottle on the large frame is a little tricky but can be done. You may want to check on the smaller frames....just an FYI
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    Hi folks: my Camber Expert. First photo 100% OEM in Vegas. 2nd photo with Monkeylite handlebar, 100mm FSA stem, GrabOn grips and WTB Rocket V Pro saddle in Sao Paulo. There are two mistakes in Specilialized's site: Reba solo air (it's dual: if not would be a Recon Gold with other sticker) and 90mm stem in M size (it's actual 75mm). 12.4kg




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    Quote Originally Posted by TEH215
    One thing I may mention is that using a water bottle on the large frame is a little tricky but can be done. You may want to check on the smaller frames....just an FYI
    no prob, hydration pack FTW

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    Quote Originally Posted by dakkz
    Anyway correct me if i'm wrong - you are 6.2 and that's between L and XL and you choose to go with smaller frame, therefore i should go with smaller as well?

    thx 4 info,
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    I don't think I'd even consider an XL in this frame for me. The large test bike felt just about perfect after raising the saddle 1.5" or so above the bars in the default setup the LBS had it at. Saddle was pretty far back on the rails, but KOPS and reach were very good and I believe I'll actually wind up w/ more set back on the post that comes w/ the Pro vs. the Expert that I tested so I should gain back a bit of tweaking range.

    I had gone w/ a 21" on my Rockhopper as the 19" felt too small and while it has been serving me well and I have achieved a pretty comfy fit on it overall, it's always seemed maybe a tad big and only afforded me 1.75-2" of standover.

    The advise I generally hear when between sizes is to go smaller rather than larger as it's often easier to correct your fit up than down. The smaller frames can also be a bit lighter and potentially slightly more maneuverable, but I'd say the fit would trump both of those for me.

    It's a bummer they don't have medium or a small you can at least sit on.

    Bottle clearance was definitely pretty tricky on the L. It took a concerted effort to navigate my bottle in and out of my Ribcage w/o tearing off the Pro Pedal lever. I might have to check out a side entry bottle cage or a shorter bottle as I like to carry a bottle of electrolyte/carb drink and do straight water in the Camelbak.

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    With a bike that is too small you can always get a longer stem and seatpost. You might look like a circus act, but you can ride it. With a bike that is too big, you're F'd.

    Beautiful pics Bikebr.

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    ok, Camber expert size S is on the way... upon arrival we'll see how's it hanging.
    I will post some pics and then we'll take it from there

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    Quote Originally Posted by dakkz
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    I'm 5'6" with a 30/31 inseem and I got a Medium. I found that I was between sizes according to the charts, but when I actually sat on the bikes the medium felt perfect.....

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    Woohoo! It's here!

    Camber Pro in Large
    27lbs, 15oz w/ XT M770 pedals, MK SS 2.4/2.2, Ergon GA1 grips, and a Zee Cage:


    Going to go get it dirty tonight after work .

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    Got a few more pics.

    After cleaning up after the inaugural night ride:


    A few from my ride out at John Bryan today. Pretty crazy ride, wound up w/ a quarter to half inch of muddy ice frozen to like every trailing edge on the bike and a ~4lb chunk between the linkage joints, seat tube, and FD by the time I got back to the car. This is gonna be fun to clean up...




    Bike performed great overall but had frozen out the FD by 2/3 of the way through my ride. The Mountain Kings actually wound up working really well in the snow.

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    For those of you that have one of these, would you consider it an aggressive XC bike/ light AM? Do you think it would handle some small jumps with landings and maybe once or twice a 4 foot or so drop with a landing? I'm looking for something to possibly replace my 08 FSRxc Comp that will still be nice for doing long 50 mile rides, but also enought bike to play around with here and there. I would be changing out the fork to one with a 15QR though if that makes a difference.

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    Awesome pics Sid! To a guy in Houston, that looks like a blast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkbikes4life
    For those of you that have one of these, would you consider it an aggressive XC bike/ light AM? Do you think it would handle some small jumps with landings and maybe once or twice a 4 foot or so drop with a landing? I'm looking for something to possibly replace my 08 FSRxc Comp that will still be nice for doing long 50 mile rides, but also enought bike to play around with here and there. I would be changing out the fork to one with a 15QR though if that makes a difference.
    Personally I'd call it a trail bike, so somewhere in between an XC and AM bike.

    Both the test bike and my Pro seemed solid to me landing jumps ~3.5 high or so to flat w/ the wacky OS 24 9mm QR. I'd imagine a 15mm axle would make things a bit stiffer and more durable. I'm about 210lbs. and the thing I'd worry the most about being able to handle this type of jumping/drops over the long term are the wheels, but they might do OK .
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    (Sigh) I wish I could get my bike that dirty :-) No stream crossings around here, and by the time the trails re-open after some rain, I have to actively hunt down remaining mud puddles!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Nitzerglobin
    Personally I'd call it a trail bike, so somewhere in between an XC and AM bike.

    Both the test bike and my Pro seemed solid to me landing jumps ~3.5 high or so to flat w/ the wacky OS 24 9mm QR. I'd imagine a 15mm axle would make things a bit stiffer and more durable. I'm about 210lbs. and the thing I'd worry the most about being able to handle this type of jumping/drops over the long term are the wheels, but they might do OK .
    Thanks for the respose. I was looking around and actually found that the Giant Trance may be more of what I'm looking for. Roughly the same price range and comes with the 15QR already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkbikes4life
    Thanks for the respose. I was looking around and actually found that the Giant Trance may be more of what I'm looking for. Roughly the same price range and comes with the 15QR already.
    Camber is essentially Specialized's Trance, I actually test rode an X2 in the process of picking out the Camber (just around the parking lot however, no demo bikes for Giant I could find at the local LBSs). I hear good things about the Trance for sure.

    I've been doing the same kind of jumps and hits on my Rockhopper w/ 9mm QR for a while now and have yet to break or bend one. The stock Alex RHD wheels have definitely got some issues at this point, but they were pretty crappy from the get go.

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    Just picked up my Camber Pro tonight. I will be swapping a few parts and then posting some pictures. I am putting on my Easton carbon bars, Thompson seat post and stem, then I will put it on the scale. Well what was the first ride like? Money well spent? I wont be riding here in Reno, NV for a few months, maybe time for a rode trip to some warmer weather.Your crazy man, $2800 bucks and you take it out in the snow, not me. Next summer I will be tearing it up. Sweet ride.

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    First ride was actually a night ride on Friday. The lower spots of the trail were still pretty soft so it was kind of a slow one. Feet got really cold so I picked a pair of these on Saturday since apparently nobody in this town carries winter MTB shoes.

    Sunday's ride was pretty darn fun, but very messy. I think I got some infintesimal inkling of what cyclocross might be like, albeit at a MUCH lower intensity level. The parts where the snow hadn't been worn through were actually the best from a grip perspective, still all in all if I made sure to brake in a straight line and keep my weight on the pedals things handled pretty well. Getting a little bit of slip angle on the rear end when taking turns at closer to the limits of traction felt pretty cool. The only major yikes moments came when the rear tire got deflected mid-turn off of roots that ran parallel to the trail a few times.

    The bike felt great, suspension seemed to stay consistent in its dynamics despite it being cold enough to freeze the spray to the frame pretty much instantly (~25F). About the only issue I ran into was the FD getting frozen out as I mentioned. This really wasn't a huge problem but as the ice started building up, the uphill parts through fresh snow became a pretty decent work out w/ 38x36 as my easiest gear combo. Still doable, just a bit tougher than I would usually tackle them with. If I had a 34 or 36T ring and a chain keeper I might consider going 1x10.

    I'm planning to continue to ride all winter, trail conditions permitting. We usually don't get feet of snow around here, and once the ground gets nice and frozen it should be a good deal less messy. Only thing that will screw me up is if we get the yoyo-ing temps w/ things constantly freezing and thawing and re-freezing or if it turns out to be mild enough to rain a bunch. Sub 20F temps w/ a lot of wind have a good chance to make my rides a good deal shorter and less frequent as well.

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    Hi all,

    I am planning to replace my old Giant NRS 3 frame with an Expert Camber one. Does someone know the bottom bracket spindle dimension used in the Camber? The Specialized website shows that the Expert model has a BB-ES25 bottom bracket and I know it has a 68 mm shell width, but have not been able to find the spindle dimension. Can anyone help?

    Thank you

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    Hi Bicimapas,
    please check the bottom bracket width. For me it seems to be 73mm. The Expert uses a standard outboard bearings, hollowtech type (probably a SM-BB50 or BB70), not the Octalink ES-25. Another mistake in Specialized's site...

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    Thanks Bikebr,
    I was told by the LBS mechanic that the Camber has a 68 mm shell. I will go back and measure it myself. I am planning to get a new crankset (the one on my NRS is 8 years old) so I may go with an external bearing version which can accomodate either shell size.

    Greetings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikebr
    Hi Bicimapas,
    please check the bottom bracket width. For me it seems to be 73mm. The Expert uses a standard outboard bearings, hollowtech type (probably a SM-BB50 or BB70), not the Octalink ES-25. Another mistake in Specialized's site...
    Same as for the FSR XC. The Specialized site was wrong so its always best to check yourself. No probs when you have a Hollowtech II though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkbikes4life
    For those of you that have one of these, would you consider it an aggressive XC bike/ light AM? Do you think it would handle some small jumps with landings and maybe once or twice a 4 foot or so drop with a landing? I'm looking for something to possibly replace my 08 FSRxc Comp that will still be nice for doing long 50 mile rides, but also enought bike to play around with here and there. I would be changing out the fork to one with a 15QR though if that makes a difference.
    The bike will do what you want and pretty well, but if you have a hankering to air and really rough trails, then you should get heavier wheels and rubber.

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    I am following up this thread for a while and thinking of to get a Camber Expert 26 er, I am riding a "13.5" Swiss Code hardtail" (I know it's too small for me), it's big step for me and I wanted a FS bike which can last me for at least next 5 years or life.

    I am 38 years chinese, 5.6"/ 156lb, my arm length 20.5" and inseam of 32", I am caught in between S or M size for Camber FSR; according to the chart, I should go for the "M" but I worried it will be too big for me. (I am learning to wheely and bunny hop now)

    Appreciate all the Camberer out there can give me some advice, thanx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samuel1996

    I am 38 years chinese, 5.6"/ 156lb, my arm length 20.5" and inseam of 32", I am caught in between S or M size for Camber FSR; according to the chart, I should go for the "M" but I worried it will be too big for me. (I am learning to wheely and bunny hop now)

    Appreciate all the Camberer out there can give me some advice, thanx.
    Hi Samuel,
    I'm going to assume that you can't get on a Camber to test ride, because this is by far your best bet. Do you have a Specialized dealer? If so, go get on an FSR XC and see how the S and M fit you. They're similar enough that you (and the dealer) will know the right size. If you're still on the fence, I would say get the smaller bike because you can always get a longer stem and/or seatpost on a bike that is too small. If you go too large, you're stuck with the frame dimensions. Good luck, and post some pics when you make your purchase!

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    Hi kwides,

    Thanks for your advice, there is a Specialized dealer here in Penang, Malaysia. But I guess they do not have the FSR XC, the Camber stock had just arrived 2 days ago and they are trying to assemble the S and M model for me to try out..

    I am so excited as I might go and try it out this afternoon, an early Christmas gift for me from my own wallet ^^

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    wow, gotta have one. think ill talk to the guy at the lbs tomorrow. on the layaway plan i should be able to swing a comp or an elite by april, just when id really want to start the season. nice that the pricepoint is actually obtainable. the bike is like a little brother to the stumpy, not an ugly half-stepchild like the fsr was.

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    How'd it go Samuel?

    I've never ridden in MY, but have a friend who rode in Singapore and said it was awesome.

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    Hi kwrides,

    Yeah, quite number of Singaporean will cross the strait to cycle in MY.. Cycling is getting popular here..

    Well, I tested both S and M size, I found S size is more comfortable, may be I get used to the smaller bike (My HT is only 13.5"). I felt M size is little too big, seems like bigger then me.. I will be travelling for the next 5 days so I will take some time to think about this.. Is it true that bigger bike are more stable when doing uphill climb? I am newbie and stuck in the sizing the right bike..

    I'm thinking of to go for Camber coz Specialized claimed that it is in between Epic and Stumpy, please share with me how's your Camber performance so far? Thanx..

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    I really like the bike, but I recommend saving up the coin to get the better models with a shock that has pro-pedal. Mine really bobs a lot on flats or when climbing. Sure, I can reach down and lock them it, but it's not convenient. I'm going to upgrade mine.

    I mostly ride on very rooty trails with a lot of tight angles. We have several ups and downs, but only of 20 feet or so. Biggest drop off is probably 3 feet. The bike excels in all those conditions, except for very steep climbs, where the bob gets in the way of progress.

    I'm very pleasantly surprised with the performance of the cheapo brakes and love the stock saddle and handlebar. The tires are ok, but slip a bit in dry conditions.

    I hope that helps. If you have specific questions, fire away.

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    Hey kwrides, I appreciate very much for your details explanation, this help a lot especially for a newbie like me.

    I guess I had make up my mind to go for the Expert model, but tomorrow I will drop by Kuala Lumpur Specialized concept shop (350KM south from where I live, travel by car of coz) to do the final test ride to see if the S size really suitable for me, if everything goes smooth, I am going to get a Specialized Camber Expert Silver/ Black by next Monday 20 Dec ^-^

    Thanx a lot!

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    Suppose to collect my S size Camber Expert today, but when I were there in the shop, the LBS told me I got to wait for another 4-5 days coz the Reba Fork has some manufacturing defect, they need to replace a new one.... sigh....

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    teeth #

    Does anybody know the size ( teeth ) of the Camber Pro 29er chainrings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlorga
    Does anybody know the size ( teeth ) of the Camber Pro 29er chainrings?
    Pretty sure they're 33/22

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    They seem bigger than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlorga
    They seem bigger than that.
    It's totally possible that they are. I'm just guessing at 33/22 as that's the size of the rings on the Stumpy FSR 29ers w/ 2x10s and the 2x10s of the Stumpy FSR 26ers aside from the EVO seem to be the same as the Camber Pro 26er. Epic Expert Carbon 29er and Sworks 29er have 38x24, but they are described as XC double cranksets, where as the Stumpy FSR and Camber Pro are listed as XC Trail double cranksets.

    I don't now how much bigger of a big ring I'd want for the 29" wheels on a 2x10 personally. Trying to torque up bigger hills in 32/36 on the 3x10 of the Epic Comp 29er I test rode for a couple of days was definitely giving a pretty substantial workout already. The 38/24 rings on my Camber Pro 26er have definitely encouraged me into using the FD alot more than I used to.

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    If they were 38/24, I would buy one, I need bigger than 33/22.

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    Spooky creaky BB

    Anybody else have a really creaky BB on a new Camber? I've got a Camber Expert that is creaking like a haunted house under any kind of load. I called my LBS and they said ride it a few more times then bring it in for a tune up. Is this think just loose? It creaks more than my 11 year old Stumpy M2 comp did!

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    Need to pick a Camber size

    I'm down to my short list for a new dual suspension bike. The Camber has made that list. Not sure what size I need. I'm on a 15.5 2009 stumpy hardtail right now which feels about right. However, I'm apparently overlap on S's susp. bikes b/w small/med. frames. I've ridden a small stumpy fsr comp for a day earlier in the year out in Vegas and have ridden a medium Camber for about 5 minutes. The med. felt pretty good and standover was Ok. What r u guys riding? I'm 5'7" w/ 29.5" inseam, 25.25" trunk and 25" arms I've done a fit calculator and it advised I need a bike w/ around 28.1"-28.7" of standover and a virtual TT of around 23.1-23.5
    Thanks!

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    My other half's a little shorter than you and she went for a medium as she preferred the extra room in the cockpit - though it's all down to personal preference. Happily it does mean that at 6', I can just about fit into it until I get my own bike sorted!

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    Great thread and awesome machines!



    I got one too, yesterday! Merry Christmas












    5'7" on a small, weight distribution felt more fun and confident.

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    Greater than Gravity,

    Sweet!!! Is that a Zee Cage? I cant find green color in Malaysia, can you help me to source one?

    Mine still in LBS awaiting for the Reba shock replacement. But I get them to change to Green Jagwire for the gear cable...I guess I have to wait for another 2- 3 days to bring her home..

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    Any idea what is the weight for the S size Camber Expert? 26lb?

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    Hey samuel, yes it is a Zee Cage! I got it at the LBS.

    Green cable housing is a good Idea! Can you post pics with the green cable housing when you get your bike? Im trying to find green hydraulic hoses for the brakes..

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    GTG/ Kwrides,

    My S size Camber Expert finally home, will bring her for a virgin ride in one hour time.. I am damn excited ^^

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