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    I finally got a chance to demo a Camber Expert. Took it on the trails for about 4 hours yesterday. I have fallen in love. The bike feels perfect in every way. I still can't get over how light it is compared to the FSR XC I rode last year. The Reba/Fox combo works beautifully. I really like the Dyna-Sys set-up on the Expert. I was originally going to buy an Elite but I may be getting an Expert now.

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    Which ones have Dyna-Sys? I can't tell on Spec's web site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy
    it is...you can see the post through the hole in the seat tube...and i was just being facetious about my bike fitting me...my bike fits me like a glove.
    Maybe so....have you checked your position like described above? It's still something you should do if you haven't already
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmtbiker
    Which ones have Dyna-Sys? I can't tell on Spec's web site.
    Only the Expert has Dyna-Sys. The Pro uses a SRAM 2X10, the Comp and Elite use a
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    I have a couple of questions for folks riding the Camber Comp:
    How does the Ario rear shock work regarding suspension bob?;
    How are the Tektro brakes regarding stopping power and feel?.
    Last edited by nunomaia; 09-21-2010 at 06:48 AM.

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    My Camber came with a 350mm seatpost and it was right on the minimum insertion line......so I put on a 400mm post...and it's also lighter than the stock one.

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    @johnny, no worries, fits me perfectly.

    Tips the scale at 26.2 lbs, here are some details:

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    Finally sat on and ordered a Camber yesterday - should have it in my mucky paws by middle of this week. Slightly excited as its my first full sus. It's not what I initially planned to get when I decided to go FS a couple of months ago but after riding it and the one that I had planned to buy I'm really pleased things have worked out as they have.

    Have gone for the Elite due to better component spec over the Comp, though having ridden the Comp it does seem like a good buy for the relatively small cost.

    Roll on the weekend and taking it for a proper blast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunomaia
    I have a couple of questions for folks riding the Camber Comp:
    How does the Ario rear shock work regarding suspension bob?;
    How are the Tektro brakes regarding stopping power and feel?.
    I'm around 155lbs, and use PP almost exclusively. I tested on some paved bike-paths (hard to look down on trails, and roots could affect travel gasket) and get absolutely no bob at all except when standing up and *really* pounding on some steep hills. Even then it's maybe 5% travel. If you're heavier you might see some bob. If you're clyde-ish you may see some bob even when locked out -- the Ario manual shows weight max for lock-out... above a certain weight lockout becomes more propedal-ish.

    Can't offer an opinion on the brakes as my elite has Elixr's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GotoDengo
    I'm around 155lbs, and use PP almost exclusively. I tested on some paved bike-paths (hard to look down on trails, and roots could affect travel gasket) and get absolutely no bob at all except when standing up and *really* pounding on some steep hills. Even then it's maybe 5% travel. If you're heavier you might see some bob. If you're clyde-ish you may see some bob even when locked out -- the Ario manual shows weight max for lock-out... above a certain weight lockout becomes more propedal-ish.

    Can't offer an opinion on the brakes as my elite has Elixr's.
    you shouldn't have to worry about blowing the shock with the PP engaged unless doing some significant drops or casing jumps

    try to learn to operate the switch with muscle memory
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdamaster
    you shouldn't have to worry about blowing the shock with the PP engaged unless doing some significant drops or casing jumps

    try to learn to operate the switch with muscle memory
    Que? I haven't had any issues bottoming out. I was relaying my experience with the PP platform and how stiff it is for my weight. For heavier riders, I'm guessing you'll see some bob in PP or even lockout. But thanks for the info about bottoming out. I set mine to about 80% of travel on the roughest trail around here and keep it there. Hasn't gone any further than that.

    I do have to reach down to switch b/t PP and open -- I guess that's muscle memory, as the switch is on top and it's pretty easy to reach without even looking. But with all the ups and downs I usually keep it on PP and don't need to mess with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GotoDengo
    Que? I haven't had any issues bottoming out. I was relaying my experience with the PP platform and how stiff it is for my weight. For heavier riders, I'm guessing you'll see some bob in PP or even lockout. But thanks for the info about bottoming out. I set mine to about 80% of travel on the roughest trail around here and keep it there. Hasn't gone any further than that.

    I do have to reach down to switch b/t PP and open -- I guess that's muscle memory, as the switch is on top and it's pretty easy to reach without even looking. But with all the ups and downs I usually keep it on PP and don't need to mess with it.
    I was replying to where you said:
    (hard to look down on trails, and roots could affect travel gasket)
    I interpreted that as you look down to the lever to switch it and you are concerned you may blow a seal on the shock going over bumps with PP engaged.
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    My Camber Comp currently weighs 29.94 lbs.

    I have upgraded the stem, handlebars, and seatpost, and currently running it as a 1x9.

    What would the best upgrades be to shed a couple of pounds off of this thing??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash4
    @johnny, no worries, fits me perfectly.

    Tips the scale at 26.2 lbs, here are some details:

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    Nice!

    With that kind of gate, that pic is definitely from the PI

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    Quote Originally Posted by bspate
    My Camber Comp currently weighs 29.94 lbs.

    I have upgraded the stem, handlebars, and seatpost, and currently running it as a 1x9.

    What would the best upgrades be to shed a couple of pounds off of this thing??
    Wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdamaster
    I was replying to where you said:

    (hard to look down on trails, and roots could affect travel gasket)

    I interpreted that as you look down to the lever to switch it and you are concerned you may blow a seal on the shock going over bumps with PP engaged.
    Ah, I see. No I was referring to looking down to see if the the shock was traveling at all while I was pedaling in PP. Staring down while pedaling on narrow, rooty singletrack would seem dangerous, and roots and rocks would cause the shock to engage.... making it hard to tell how stiff the platform was (the "travel gasket" I was referring to was the external o-ring on the stanchion -- probably bad wording and the source of confusion, sorry).

    Staring at it while hammering on it on a paved path is pretty safe, seems a good control test of the PP platform, and I could make sure any movement of the o-ring wasn't b/c I hit a pothole/crack. Was just testing the pedaling platform. Haven't geeked out on it yet to test small bump compliance.

    As an aside, I had the rear shock pressure too high for too long... maybe 40% travel. As I started hitting the more advanced sections of the area trails, I never knew what might be around the corner so I was wary of bottoming out the rear. I bounced around quite a bit, almost like my hardtail. After learning the trails better and hitting the biggest stuff they had to offer, I gradually opened it up to around 80% travel and softened up the rebound. Wow! Like I got a brand new bike all over again. Half of the roots just -- phhht -- up and disappeared

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    Quote Originally Posted by bspate
    My Camber Comp currently weighs 29.94 lbs.

    I have upgraded the stem, handlebars, and seatpost, and currently running it as a 1x9.

    What would the best upgrades be to shed a couple of pounds off of this thing??
    cassette, wheels, tires (run a folding tire tubeless and you'll lose ~1lb or so) saddle...but unfortunately, the fork is where the major weight difference between the comp and the elite, pro etc...comes into play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjg5
    My new (1 month) friend...

    I love my Camber, and the component upgrade was just enough for me to justify the added expense of the elite. I like the red/white, but I really dig the Comp's color scheme. I would have gone with something like that if it were an option. Nice looking bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bspate
    My Camber Comp currently weighs 29.94 lbs.

    I have upgraded the stem, handlebars, and seatpost, and currently running it as a 1x9.

    What would the best upgrades be to shed a couple of pounds off of this thing??
    I ordered a Camber Comp and made the deal with the LBS on the following upgrades:
    - 2Bliss tyres and tubeless
    - XT cassette
    - deore crankset

    These should lower the weight significantly and improve function. I don't plan on upgrading more soon but wheels would be the next logical step. Specialized has some new wheels this year at competitive prices, the Roval Trail I think.

    BTW, my Camber should arrive today.

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    Nunomaia - thanks for the compliment!

    My rear wheel has a bent sidewall now (still rideable). Looking at various wheelset reviews and sites, I'm not getting out under 2100 grams with my $300ish budget. If the stock wheelset is about 1900 (someone mentioned around this site) Very little weight savings available unless I look at the fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjg5
    Nunomaia - thanks for the compliment!

    My rear wheel has a bent sidewall now (still rideable). Looking at various wheelset reviews and sites, I'm not getting out under 2100 grams with my $300ish budget. If the stock wheelset is about 1900 (someone mentioned around this site) Very little weight savings available unless I look at the fork.
    I got hope pro2 laced to ztr flow with dt comp spokes for like $350 shipped from CRC
    hand built, 1800g, AM strength

    2100g is ridiculous for a trail bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by GotoDengo
    the Ario manual shows weight max for lock-out... above a certain weight lockout becomes more propedal-ish.
    What is the max weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjg5
    Nunomaia - thanks for the compliment!

    My rear wheel has a bent sidewall now (still rideable). Looking at various wheelset reviews and sites, I'm not getting out under 2100 grams with my $300ish budget. If the stock wheelset is about 1900 (someone mentioned around this site) Very little weight savings available unless I look at the fork.
    Try crazedlist... multi-city craigslist search. You're taking a bit of a chance, and you might get skeptical people not wanting to ship things or fear of getting ripped off, but you might find a decent deal on some used rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdamaster
    I got hope pro2 laced to ztr flow with dt comp spokes for like $350 shipped from CRC
    hand built, 1800g, AM strength

    2100g is ridiculous for a trail bike

    what is CRC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjg5
    what is CRC?
    Chain Reaction Cycles
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjg5
    Nunomaia - thanks for the compliment!

    My rear wheel has a bent sidewall now (still rideable). Looking at various wheelset reviews and sites, I'm not getting out under 2100 grams with my $300ish budget. If the stock wheelset is about 1900 (someone mentioned around this site) Very little weight savings available unless I look at the fork.
    There's also these hand built wheels from BWW for under $300. http://www.bicyclewheelwarehouse.com...&productId=153

    Total weight 1897g. Total price (including tax & shipping) $280.

    Thus far, they are working better than I expected
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    hmmm-me needs to rethink my wheelset. I was urged by several, even some on this site, to shy away from 1800 gram wheelsets due to my weight (budget) I did call BWW and email, but I did not hget a response. How long does it take them to build/deliiver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjg5
    hmmm-me needs to rethink my wheelset. I was urged by several, even some on this site, to shy away from 1800 gram wheelsets due to my weight (budget) I did call BWW and email, but I did not hget a response. How long does it take them to build/deliiver?
    there's "1800g" wheels that would buckle underneath you and there's "1800g" wheels that you'd never bend out of true on a trail bike.

    Weight is not a direct measure of strength.
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    Azonic outlaws black $300. Looked at crc. Wheels above were $300 pounds covert to us $ and they were $500

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    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=40780

    azonic outlaws are full-on DH/FR wheels. I had a pair. They were like cinder blocks
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    My Camber Comp arrived. It rides like a dream. And it is a gorgeous bike. The anodized gold bits look amazing... now I'm thinking of getting some more gold bling for her. Upgraded on buying: 2bliss tyres, tubeless, xt cassete and deore crankset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdamaster
    there's "1800g" wheels that would buckle underneath you and there's "1800g" wheels that you'd never bend out of true on a trail bike.

    Weight is not a direct measure of strength.
    agreed...it's all about the build
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    I will say the DT wheels that come stock on these SUCK! Unrideable now. I have had a few different bikes from hardtails to full susp and have never had a wheel bend like this. Lambdamaster - thanks for the link, looks like no stock for a month for their factory builds as shown. I looked in the wheel section and see BWW but for the $ am looking at Shimano XT hubs - so we'd still be pushing 2000-2100 grams.

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    Got a chance to ride a Camber Elite 29'er. I actually preferred it to the Camber 26'er I rode a few weeks ago. I may be considering the 29'er for my next bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy
    the elite only comes in one color combo
    Heya, I know this post is weeks old and was probably the case at the time but the elite comes in 2 colour combo's now well atleast there were 2 options avalible to me here in New Zealand. I just picked up my elite at lunchtime like 3 hours ago and its sitting in my car while im stuck at work! man i can't wait to get home tonight hehe, I'll post up some pics of mine later on but I went for this colour in the Camber elite, it looks awesome, its a bronze'ish and black combo, the rear shock isnt white in Rl though its blck with the roxshox logo on it:


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    that's a European edition....cool combo.

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    Here is my new baby, excuse the crappy camera . I am yet to get it out on a trail but whipping around the block and the flat park down the road it was very nice, Bring on tomorrow!

    Camber Elite, I got a medium (I'm 5'11 but seems fine size wise), It's all totally standard currently, the only thing I may do is get a slightly longer stem.





    Very happy so far, and would like to thank everyone for helping me come to the camber decision

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    did your medium come with a 75mm stem?
    even though it's sepc'd from specialized with a 90mm stem, the med's i've seen are being shipped with 75mm ones.
    i put a 100mm on mine, and it fits me perfectly at 6' tall...

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    Yeah it's a 75mm stem by default.

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    My medium came with a 75mm as well. It was way too short. I now have a 110mm on it and it feels perfect.

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    Here's my Camber Elite - had it for a couple of weeks now and loving it. Came to this from an old HT Giant and cannot believe the difference it makes. Bumpy rooty trails are now my favourite riding, the twisty stuff is so much quicker and the steeper sections dont need a fore thought. I can't believe how much more responsive it is, both through the suspension and the steering although it's taking a bit of getting used too and I have already had a couple of falls, mostly due to not quite being used to having such decent brakes. My only issue is the weight - just over 28lb feels heavy to a girl like me - so planning a few changes to get that down a bit and personalise the bike.

    Would definately recommend it to anyone looking for a do-a-bit-of-everything full sus bike. It's made riding so much more fun and I know it's going to help me improve massively.

    GotoDengo - it's prob worth mentioning that like BigRuckus missus I choose this over the Myka. It's a better spec for less money and tbh the Myka just didnt fit me - I'm a 5'6 normal sized/shaped girl. I ended up with the medium Camber and bar the standover height not being quite as much as I'd like it's perfect

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    What were you riding before this? I read before a hardtail 29er. What specifically? Size as well. Why go back to 26 FS? Why not stay 29 FS (I'm aware some think this is unneccessary, but I don't know why)? Thinking about buying this bike.

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    a custom 2009 rockhopper expert, size 19" (always felt a tad big)


    ...before that, a 26" s-works carbon stumpy

    i've never had a 26" fs, so i didn't "go back" to anything.
    a fs 29er is a little too extreme atmo.
    too much going on...29er and fs seems redundant.
    i can definitely tell a difference on the exact same trail going back to the smaller wheels..i rode the 29er for 10 months...handles much better, more nimble and overall a faster bike.

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    scarlett, at 5'6", why in the world did you get a medium??!!

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    Here's my new Comp before I put the pedals on and lost the sticker. Maiden voyage today and she's nice and dirty now. Surprised at the quality of the disc brakes. Still not sure I'm a fan of the Ario...that might be my 1st upgrade. I think she's beautiful.


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    new pedals, 2.3 s-works eskar 2bliss front, 2.2 s-works captain 2bliss rear.






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    Damn Johnny, beautiful bike....how long till the only stock bit is the frame?

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    the brakes, fork and bars are the only thing left stock....

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    Still waay too shiny. Are you riding it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny the boy
    scarlett, at 5'6", why in the world did you get a medium??!!
    Because the small was too small, and the large was too big?

    Seriously though, I planned to get a medium Myka but the WS geometry just didn't fit me at all - the medium was far too small and upright and the large too long. My current HT is a 17" Giant and the Camber has a shorter top tube length. The medium Camber feels great and the riding I have done with it so far has made me confident I chose the right bike in the right size.

    Also, I believe the Specialized sizing guide for the Camber does say the medium is for 5'6" upwards (I think it's 5'6"-5'11").

    ETA - Crap, just realised that it was my OH who was logged in - not me. Do'h... Scarlett!

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