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    Have Fun!!!

    I'm really loving mine.

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    Coming from a large sized 26 inch 13 year old bike to the correct size modern 29er, I can say that this thing is HUGE and I feel SO high on the seat. I lowered it just a bit to feel more stable feeling while I get use to riding a bike that actually FITS. FWIW, the new XO Gripshift is REALLY nice.
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    I've lowered mine a bit as well. Our trails tend to be twisty, rocky, and rooty!

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    my camber in the redwoods, rotorua, new zealand ... finished work at lunctime and snuck into the forest ... does that mean i am getting paid for this???

    the redwoods/whakarewarewa: world class trails 10mins gentle ride from our accomodation ... ride 3.5hrs and not ride the same trail twice, then back to our motel and soak in the thermally heated pool ... can it get any better than this???

    camber pro 29, absolutely stock except for the bar ends ...
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    the W2K track in taupo ...
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    Finely got my 29er Camber Carbon Evo to the 1 x 10 it should have come with in the first place. I thought all EVO's had one front ring? We put a Raceface 32 tooth SS ring on the front with an MRP S3/E-Mount 32-40T (Black) chain guide. It was a chore to get the chainguide in place since it is so far away from the seat tube. Anyway, after several hours of trial and error and several shims the LBS got it done. Went out on a 20 plus mile ride yesterday and it performed flawlessly. It is in there solid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoogie View Post
    my camber in the redwoods, rotorua, new zealand ... finished work at lunctime and snuck into the forest ... does that mean i am getting paid for this???

    the redwoods/whakarewarewa: world class trails 10mins gentle ride from our accomodation ... ride 3.5hrs and not ride the same trail twice, then back to our motel and soak in the thermally heated pool ... can it get any better than this???

    camber pro 29, absolutely stock except for the bar ends ...
    Neat colours, quite unlike anything you'd find in north america.

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    Good job!

    Buy mine in the classifieds
    Amazing bike. Just have something else on the cards.

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    Hello.

    I'm wondering if anyone here knows the weight of the wheelset that's on the 2012 Camber Comp 29.

    Specifically, the Roval 29 Alloy Disc rims, with Specialized Hi Lo Disc hubs.

    Why can't I weigh by own wheels, you ask? To that I say: mind your own business!

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    from what i have read around the forums i believe the set weights around 2100g
    someone correct me if Im wrong

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    That sounds about right, thanks.

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    My 2012 Camber 29

    I think this bike is pretty close to done for me. The only things left are the seatpost, fork and shock. I removed the spacer in the fork, and now we're up to 120mm travel in front.

    It's a medium, and the weight is 29lb 14 oz. I think that's probably about where it's gonna stay, and I'm cool with that.







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    Odi Rogues (best thing!)
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    SLX medium cage rear derailleur (wrecked the XT)
    SLX M675 brakes (couldn't get the Avids to shut up, and SRAM wouldn't help)

    All things considered, I wish I'd bought the Camber Comp model for the 10 speed, and the tapered HT. I didn't know the difference then, and replaced the drivetrain parts one at a time, not intending to do a full upgrade, but here we are.

    It's a good bike, and there are some days when it's perfect. There are other rougher places where I wish it was more stiff and had more travel, but that's not the bike it is. If I was to do it all over, I'd have gone more all mountain, but I've also had a hell of a lot of fun with this bike, and it'll do me for at least another year.

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    does anybody know the weight of the 2013 Camber Comp (carbon) frameset?

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    My brother has a medium 2013 camber carbon and I have a large 2012 camber carbon. Neither bike has been ridden yet. He is 25 lbs heavier than me. I am 185lbs. We are thinking of swapping rotors and brackets, so he has the 200 180 combo, and I get his 180 160 combo. I am thinking this right sizes things for us. Any reason not to do this?

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    No harm in swapping out rotors and brackets

    I'm thinking of getting a 2013 camber carbon once u ride it post a review
    Loved to know what u thought of the ctd rear shock and the overall ride
    Thanks

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    Definitely can't go wrong with the carbon, but with the changes to the aluminum models this year, they are a heck of a bargain... not that I am biased or anything...
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    We prefer the carbon feel. But from price to weight standpoint, a 2013 camber comp 29 with some different wheels would be lighter. Damn snowy here in Edmonton though. Rode my old super V yesterday.

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    That is why I went with the aluminum... I liked the carbon better by a small margin, but I felt that the $1K saved would go further on making the aluminum a better option for me. Considering the level of specs are almost identical between the 2, I plan on spending the extra money on shifters (done), brakes, wheels and then eventually replacing the fork if the Reba lets me down. Of course the cost difference is made less if you are a "Shimano guy" since the drivetrain of the carbon is Shimano... I am a Gripshifting fool, so the SRAM of the aluminum made the switch to GS pretty cheap.

    The RS Monarch will take an entirely different pressure to feel the same as the Fox too. I had the Fox at 290-295 (I am not a small potato) to get the same feel as the RS at 260-265. And... since I am a bit of a bigger rider, the auto-sag left me wanting a bit as it would set the shock at 250 or so (estimating based on air loss connecting the pump), but the bike felt too soft for me (that may change as I have only ever ridden hard tails up to this point).

    That all being said.... if you can get your hands on a 2012 Camber Carbon, it may be a different story. The components are different and the Fox fork is pretty nice and it has better brakes than the 2013.
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    The reasons you mentioned, the all Fox suspension and brakes are why I went 2012. My brother hemmed and hawed and missed a 2012. He bought a 2013.
    I would prefer the 2013 shimano shifters and rear derailleur. Both of ours are carbon comps.

    Just weighed my 2012 lareg size camber carbon comp. 29.2 lbs with wellgo mg1 pedals.
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    Got a base 2013 camber. Any suggestions on what I should swap out first?

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    Depends on your goals. I would probably ride it till something broke, or you noticed something really had to change, like tires or fork or shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darKnight57 View Post
    Got a base 2013 camber. Any suggestions on what I should swap out first?
    Dropper seatpost

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    i bought mavic crossmax st 29 wheels 2 weeks ago they sit in the closet waiting for a bike.
    im thinking the 2013 camber comp or comp carbon

    im thinking that the fox rear shock is a better option im coming from a hardtail so i know nothing about rear suspension i weight 245lbs
    would finish off the bike off with carbon bar, lightweight stem and seatpost

    i live in new england and feel that coming off of a hardtail that the 110mm travel would be the right setup for me

    your thoughts?

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    Another question here:

    How much can I get in return if a switch the factory wheels to a new and lighter set? 200 usd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhtopilko View Post
    We prefer the carbon feel. But from price to weight standpoint, a 2013 camber comp 29 with some different wheels would be lighter. Damn snowy here in Edmonton though. Rode my old super V yesterday.
    I have a question you say and I've heard others make similar comments about the feel of carbon?
    I'm sure it's not your hand touching the frame, is there any way to explain how riding a carbon frame is Diffrent than an aluminum frame?

    Thanks

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    To me, it's the dead, absorbing feel, on hits. And the stiff pedaling as well. I test rode over the same rooted sections some other bikes, and the carbon stood out. The other three had the feel of my old super V.
    I test rode a 2013 tallboy ltc al, epic comp, and stumpjumper comp.

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    Carbon does offer a bit of dampening that is hard to explain. It is sort of like steel. Aluminum is a very rigid metal that doesn't give much in a forgiving nature... and carbon (not cheap Chinese type carbon) is usually laid up to be compliant in the direction of a hit. My old ride was a carbon softtail and even with the rear shock aired WAY up, the bike always felt "alive" and I never felt beat up by riding it.

    As for stiffness, I am not so sold on the carbon bike being much more laterally stiffer than the aluminum given the redesign of the aluminum chassis. Now, if Specialized takes the simplified linkage and swing arm of the '13 aluminum chassis and puts it on the carbon, then you will be talking about a good difference once again. (And I won't mention that I am hoping they do this so I can have shock upgrade options if my Monarch doesn't keep me happy).

    I am not completely sold on the dampening effects on a carbon bike vs aluminum when we are talking about full suspension since the suspension provides more than the carbon ever will. Much of the benefit of carbon with a FS is in the lighter material. Prior to 2013, there was something like a 2 pound difference between carbon and aluminum versions of the Camber.... now that has dropped to 0.5lb with the switch to M5 aluminum and the simplified swing arm.

    I think much of the "feel" difference between the FSR, Camber carbon and Camber aluminum come more down to the swing arm and linkage designs than the material itself. All three bikes have very different designs and it makes a HUGE difference in ride. The FSR was like a pogo stick to me with WAY too "plush" of a back end for what I like. The Camber aluminum was less plush, but it felt solid and didn't feel like there was a rear end to the bike. The Camber carbon was even less plush and would have been a perfect step over to FS for me from my softtail, but when compared apples-to-apples to the aluminum model, there was no way to justify the cost difference.

    That is my person take on the bikes and nothing more. It is my opinion and should be taken as such. It is hard to explain the differences between all the bikes without riding them back-to-back for yourself. On my day of test riding I rode the Camber comp carbon, Camber comp aluminum, Stumpy FSR compaluminum, Epic comp aluminum, Trek Superfly100 Elite and Trek Rumblefish Elite. The ONLY reason I didn't buy the carbon Camber was because of the $1K and that I thought $1K was better spent on a few select upgrades. I am a clydesdale rider, so thinks like good/strong wheels mean a lot to me.
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    Thank you for your time you took discribing your take on the alu vs carbon
    I liked how u described the carbon camber being a bit stiffer. I'm worried that going from a hardtail that I will dislike the "plushness" ...
    I'm also a Clyde and have been smashing on my wheels pretty wheel getting trued every 2 or 3 rides
    Got some crossmax for the new bike to solve this problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by darKnight57 View Post
    Got a base 2013 camber. Any suggestions on what I should swap out first?
    Ride it until you notice a difference, but if you see my post above, I've switched out almost everything. Things that made the most difference?

    Brakes
    Wheels
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    Shifters

    Hell, it all made a difference. But was any of it necessary? Who can say?

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    I would say wheels and fork

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksousa81 View Post
    I would say wheels and fork
    Yeah, I forgot that the 2013 base Camber comes with a not great fork. My base 2012 came with a Recon Gold, which, while not a great fork, isn't the worst thing out there. I removed the spacer, and got it up to 120mm, which I like a lot more than 100.

    Again, ride and decide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight511 View Post
    Carbon does offer a bit of dampening that is hard to explain. It is sort of like steel. Aluminum is a very rigid metal that doesn't give much in a forgiving nature... and carbon (not cheap Chinese type carbon) is usually laid up to be compliant in the direction of a hit. My old ride was a carbon softtail and even with the rear shock aired WAY up, the bike always felt "alive" and I never felt beat up by riding it.

    As for stiffness, I am not so sold on the carbon bike being much more laterally stiffer than the aluminum given the redesign of the aluminum chassis. Now, if Specialized takes the simplified linkage and swing arm of the '13 aluminum chassis and puts it on the carbon, then you will be talking about a good difference once again. (And I won't mention that I am hoping they do this so I can have shock upgrade options if my Monarch doesn't keep me happy).

    I am not completely sold on the dampening effects on a carbon bike vs aluminum when we are talking about full suspension since the suspension provides more than the carbon ever will. Much of the benefit of carbon with a FS is in the lighter material. Prior to 2013, there was something like a 2 pound difference between carbon and aluminum versions of the Camber.... now that has dropped to 0.5lb with the switch to M5 aluminum and the simplified swing arm.

    I think much of the "feel" difference between the FSR, Camber carbon and Camber aluminum come more down to the swing arm and linkage designs than the material itself. All three bikes have very different designs and it makes a HUGE difference in ride. The FSR was like a pogo stick to me with WAY too "plush" of a back end for what I like. The Camber aluminum was less plush, but it felt solid and didn't feel like there was a rear end to the bike. The Camber carbon was even less plush and would have been a perfect step over to FS for me from my softtail, but when compared apples-to-apples to the aluminum model, there was no way to justify the cost difference.

    That is my person take on the bikes and nothing more. It is my opinion and should be taken as such. It is hard to explain the differences between all the bikes without riding them back-to-back for yourself. On my day of test riding I rode the Camber comp carbon, Camber comp aluminum, Stumpy FSR compaluminum, Epic comp aluminum, Trek Superfly100 Elite and Trek Rumblefish Elite. The ONLY reason I didn't buy the carbon Camber was because of the $1K and that I thought $1K was better spent on a few select upgrades. I am a clydesdale rider, so thinks like good/strong wheels mean a lot to me.
    Makes sense, I didn't have the opportunity to test aluminum camber at all. All gone when I started to look. I am light enough and didn't brake anything on my last bike. The stock wheels are my only concern. I contemplated the price difference after I paid for the bike.

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    My LBS has an aluminum comp model "sneak" in earlier than anyone else.... so much of a sneak that when I asked when they would get them in, I was told "late December" only to find they had one on the shelf no one really knew about. All of my testing was done on large frames because no one stocks XL.... after all the fussing around, we order an XL for me to buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight511 View Post
    My LBS has an aluminum comp model "sneak" in earlier than anyone else.... so much of a sneak that when I asked when they would get them in, I was told "late December" only to find they had one on the shelf no one really knew about. All of my testing was done on large frames because no one stocks XL.... after all the fussing around, we order an XL for me to buy.
    Thanks for your earlier post / review of your purchase of 2013 Alu Camber.
    It reassured me as have ordered same bike for similar reasons.
    Should arrive at my LBS in couple of weeks here in Australia.

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    Riding buddy with his brand new camber 29 and my not so new camber comp.
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    I have just ordered my Camber 29 Alu bike. It's in XL and due to arrive by end of the month. Looking forward to it very much.

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    Hi all, had a quick search but can't seem to find this question in this thread. I have found a bargain priced 2012 Camber Comp Carbon 29er that I'm thinking of buying. This might be a dumb question, but the spec says "internal Command Post routing" - does this mean I could fit a Reverb Stealth so I wouldn't get any cable flapping around or have they somehow made it so you can only use the internal routing for a Command Post? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tobes_uk View Post
    Hi all, had a quick search but can't seem to find this question in this thread. I have found a bargain priced 2012 Camber Comp Carbon 29er that I'm thinking of buying. This might be a dumb question, but the spec says "internal Command Post routing" - does this mean I could fit a Reverb Stealth so I wouldn't get any cable flapping around or have they somehow made it so you can only use the internal routing for a Command Post? Thanks!
    There's basically a hole in the back of the seat post, and plastic mounts up the left side of the top tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Quint View Post
    There's basically a hole in the back of the seat post, and plastic mounts up the left side of the top tube.
    Internal command post routing means there is a hole on the right side of the top tube that the cable enters the fram and then it comes out in a rectangle hole above the rear shock to make a smoother looking cable path. It won't really work for a stealth post.

    The hole in the back of the seat post is the minimum insert hole for the seat post... if you can't see the post in the hole, you don't have enough post in the tube.

    Zoom in on the picture of the Camber Carbon in the link and you will see the hole in the top tube and the cable coming out above the shock...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight511 View Post
    Internal command post routing means there is a hole on the right side of the top tube that the cable enters the fram and then it comes out in a rectangle hole above the rear shock to make a smoother looking cable path. It won't really work for a stealth post.

    The hole in the back of the seat post is the minimum insert hole for the seat post... if you can't see the post in the hole, you don't have enough post in the tube.

    Zoom in on the picture of the Camber Carbon in the link and you will see the hole in the top tube and the cable coming out above the shock...

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    Correct, verified by the bike behind my chair. If I have regular rides with other dropper post riders I will likely get one, to keep the flow of the ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight511 View Post
    Internal command post routing means there is a hole on the right side of the top tube that the cable enters the fram and then it comes out in a rectangle hole above the rear shock to make a smoother looking cable path. It won't really work for a stealth post.

    The hole in the back of the seat post is the minimum insert hole for the seat post... if you can't see the post in the hole, you don't have enough post in the tube.

    Zoom in on the picture of the Camber Carbon in the link and you will see the hole in the top tube and the cable coming out above the shock...

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    Well look at that. Thanks for the learnin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Quint View Post
    Well look at that. Thanks for the learnin'.
    I only knew because one day admiring my bike hanging in my living room (trails are still closed), I asked myself about that hole in the seat post.... and wondered how the hell one would route from the front hole to that hole... answered the question by looking at the picture I linked to (and reading a sticker included with my manual that was suppose to be under the hole in the seat post).

    I am tired of looking at this bike.... hoping the trails that are open will stay open another 48 hours so I can get my ass out of this house!
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    When I bought my used 12 camber 29er I thought that hole was where a clamp for the dropper post cabling went. When I took off one of the other clamps and saw it looked different I totally forgot about the hole. Neat to know what it's for!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksousa81 View Post
    i bought mavic crossmax. smax. smax st 29 wheels 2 weeks ago they sit in the closet waiting for a bike.
    im thinking the 2013 camber comp or comp carbon

    im thinking that the fox rear shock is a better option im coming from a hardtail so i know nothing about rear suspension i weight 245lbs
    would finish off the bike off with carbon bar, lightweight stem and seatpost

    i live in new england and feel that coming off of a hardtail that the 110mm travel would be the right setup for me

    your thoughts?
    Why spend the $ on the lightweight carbon bar/stem/seatpost? If you're looking to save weight, drop a few lbs.
    Before you get mad; I weight more than you.
    I just think there is a better way to spend your money than shaving a few ounces from the bike. If you have $ to burn, i'd upgrade your brakes, derailleur or shifters for better ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoogie View Post
    my camber in the redwoods, rotorua, new zealand ... finished work at lunctime and snuck into the forest ... does that mean i am getting paid for this???

    the redwoods/whakarewarewa: world class trails 10mins gentle ride from our accomodation ... ride 3.5hrs and not ride the same trail twice, then back to our motel and soak in the thermally heated pool ... can it get any better than this???

    camber pro 29, absolutely stock except for the bar ends ...
    Sweet track and nice ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GR1822 View Post
    Why spend the $ on the lightweight carbon bar/stem/seatpost? If you're looking to save weight, drop a few lbs.
    Before you get mad; I weight more than you.
    I just think there is a better way to spend your money than shaving a few ounces from the bike. If you have $ to burn, i'd upgrade your brakes, derailleur or shifters for better ones.
    It Defiantly couldn't hurt to shed a few more pounds!
    March 2010(the day i bought my first bike) i weight 301lbs and a smoker(dropped the habit and some weight)

    Im not really looking to take weight off my bike more customize to my liking. Im between a medium and a large so might need to tinker with those three to make a medium comfy. plus a pretty carbon bike needs pretty carbon accessories
    Also 720mm handlebars feel way to wide for me and seem to get hung up on everything i ride by. 600mm flatbar more my style.

    If you were replacing brakes and derailleur and shifters what would you get?
    just curious.

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    Be careful with carbon cockpits... most have weight limits and you are still close to those limits. It would suck to have a bar snap and take carbon shrapnel into your arm/face/body.

    That being said... great job on the weight loss and life changes!
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    Shimano brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksousa81 View Post
    If you were replacing brakes and derailleur and shifters what would you get? just curious.
    For me, I did replace the shifters. I put SRAM X0 Grip Shift on. When I change the brakes, I will order a set of Shimano XT trekking levers from Europe and use the XT brakes with finned pads.

    Why trekking levers? They are longer and should give much better hand position around the Gripshift.

    Shifters are a very personal thing to choose. You either like thumbs or grip shift. If you like thumbs, you either like Shimano or SRAM. For me, I liked Shimano thumbs but my hands always hurt after a ride, so I switched back to grip shift and it all went away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksousa81 View Post
    It Defiantly couldn't hurt to shed a few more pounds!
    March 2010(the day i bought my first bike) i weight 301lbs and a smoker(dropped the habit and some weight)

    Im not really looking to take weight off my bike more customize to my liking. Im between a medium and a large so might need to tinker with those three to make a medium comfy. plus a pretty carbon bike needs pretty carbon accessories
    Also 720mm handlebars feel way to wide for me and seem to get hung up on everything i ride by. 600mm flatbar more my style.

    If you were replacing brakes and derailleur and shifters what would you get?
    just curious.
    Nice job on shedding the pounds!
    I never thought about just 'pimping the bike' out with the carbon stuff.
    As far as what brakes/ gearing components I don't know what came stock on your bike. I personally like shimano shifters with the thumbnail and trigger combo. I'm not a fan of grip shifters or how sram uses the thumbnail for both up and down shifting. Just a personal preference though. As far as brakes: both of my bikes came with avid and I have no complaint , but I've heard other people who don'tllike them. I've never heard bad stuff about shimano brakes.
    I'd also take into consideration what someone else said about the carbon cockpit items. I don't know who aggressive you ride or how chunky New England is, but I wouldn't use themhhere in AZ at your weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight511 View Post
    For me, I did replace the shifters. I put SRAM X0 Grip Shift on. When I change the brakes, I will order a set of Shimano XT trekking levers from Europe and use the XT brakes with finned pads.

    Why trekking levers? They are longer and should give much better hand position around the Gripshift.

    Shifters are a very personal thing to choose. You either like thumbs or grip shift. If you like thumbs, you either like Shimano or SRAM. For me, I liked Shimano thumbs but my hands always hurt after a ride, so I switched back to grip shift and it all went away.
    Nice to see real changes to make a bike personal.

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    I have been watching some YouTube vids on the Spesh SJ EVO, the UK one if it differs, anyway there isn't a UK camber EVO so wanted to ask:
    Was there a US camber EVO? (if so how did it differ from stock version)
    If not, has anyone made there own? ( if so, what changes did you make)

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    There was a good write up on the '13 camber 29er (base model) in this months Mt. Bike Action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dee View Post
    I have been watching some YouTube vids on the Spesh SJ EVO, the UK one if it differs, anyway there isn't a UK camber EVO so wanted to ask:
    Was there a US camber EVO? (if so how did it differ from stock version)
    If not, has anyone made there own? ( if so, what changes did you make)

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    There is currently a Camber Carbon Evo. The Evo appears to be set up more for XC racing than a normal Camber. Lighter front fork (SID), lighter wheels, drops the dropper seat post and higher gearing (38/24 vs 36/22). Those are the only real difference so far as I can see on the Spec site...
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    The EVO is a good direction for the camber I think, I would probably go that route over time. Or with a fox 34 with low travel, and syntace wide wheels and command post.

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    As it stands, I would LOVE to have a Fox 34 with 120mm travel...I think you can reduce the travel of the plain 34 FLOAT 29.... but the question is, can it be reduced enough... 120 or 110?
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    Here is my Camber EVO. This pic was taken when brand new. A similar bike was offered in Europe last year, 2013 is the first year in the states. I think Spec should offer it a 1 x 10 like the other EVO's . I recently converted mine. I think it is a great bike.

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    Please till me why should I pick the camber over giant trance 29er? Because I cant decide one over the other

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    New, i'd go with the the Trance.
    FWIW I've had a Trance 26 and currently ride a Reign. I bought the Camber 29er because it was used and cheap! I was looking at Anthems when I stumbled across mine. I was looking for more of an XC 29er and the Trance is more trail/AM

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    Depending on how big you are, the Trance has a pretty high leverage ratio compared to the Camber. A clydesdale "theoretically" will be better suited to the Camber. This was my case... I am a big guy and the Giant bikes stood no chance under me.... the pressures required in the rear shock were just too high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight511 View Post
    There is currently a Camber Carbon Evo. The Evo appears to be set up more for XC racing than a normal Camber. Lighter front fork (SID), lighter wheels, drops the dropper seat post and higher gearing (38/24 vs 36/22). Those are the only real difference so far as I can see on the Spec site...
    Thanks for that info. I had been thinking of 'EVO' as in beefed up/more rugged - didn't know Spesh used it for other types too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rularn View Post
    Please till me why should I pick the camber over giant trance 29er? Because I cant decide one over the other
    What sort of riding do you do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dee View Post
    What sort of riding do you do?

    Well I consider my self to be a well rounded rider, I ride everything between pure XC endurance racing to All mountain tours. My local trails is not pure XC nor pure AM, somewhere in between where a camber would be perfect. But I also want a bike that can handle a week or two in the alps where the terrain is a bit more rough.
    I think a bit more travel would help, but I dont want to take the XC potential away. Im not into competition in any way but a sumpjumper would be to much I guess when Im not doing these alptours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight511 View Post
    Depending on how big you are, the Trance has a pretty high leverage ratio compared to the Camber. A clydesdale "theoretically" will be better suited to the Camber. This was my case... I am a big guy and the Giant bikes stood no chance under me.... the pressures required in the rear shock were just too high.
    Im 192 cm and ~90 kgs (6'4 and 200 lbs), would that be to much for a Trance to handle? Damn, its to many good bikes out there

    The camber looks awesome, but I dont know how rough terrain it can handle. I've seen a few of them crack (seat tube). It doesnt mean that I'm not trusting specialized to offer me a new frame if that happen but the Camber might not be constructed for a week or two in the alps.
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    I think to beat trance is the stumpjumper fsr

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    At 200, you would be fine on just about any bike. Most mfgs plan on up to 250lbs.

    If I were your size, it would come more down to the LBS that would be supporting me. Around me, there are no shops selling Spec and Giant, so it would be one or the other (although some sell Spec and Trek).

    I really think the real comparison would be better made between the trance and the Stumpy FSR. Then you would simply need to test ride both and decide. The rear suspension is completely different and you may like one over the other by a good margin... read all you want online, but test ride everything you can before deciding, you will be happy you did.
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    At 200, you would be fine on just about any bike. Most mfgs plan on up to 250lbs.

    If I were your size, it would come more down to the LBS that would be supporting me. Around me, there are no shops selling Spec and Giant, so it would be one or the other (although some sell Spec and Trek).

    I really think the real comparison would be better made between the trance and the Stumpy FSR. Then you would simply need to test ride both and decide. The rear suspension is completely different and you may like one over the other by a good margin... read all you want online, but test ride everything you can before deciding, you will be happy you did.
    Test rides are key.... however, a test ride in a parking lot over some curbs or parking blocks, a few bunny hops... that doesn't tell you the whole story. Some shops offer a "demo program", you pay $X.XX and take the demo bike for a day, two days, three days, depending on what the shop offers... some will allow you to swap between the available demo bikes during the period of time you've paid for. A lot of times this money goes towards the purchase of a bike (not an extra cost). My advice... find a shop that will let you demo these bikes, ideally one shop with both, or, find a friend(s) with these bikes who will let you swap with him out on the trail and get at least a good 15-20 minutes of saddle time, on dirt, over rocks, at speed..... get some climbs, get some descents. If you can get a real back to back experience on the bikes, you'll know which you like better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GR1822 View Post
    There was a good write up on the '13 camber 29er (base model) in this months Mt. Bike Action.
    The January issue? I looked at it on the newsstand and could not find a review.

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    February maybe? I just got it at home last week. Read it and threw it away. Do home subscriptions get released before newsstands or visa versa? There was a good review of the Trance 29er too.

    Edit: I just looked it up online, and it's the Feb issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iridethedirt View Post
    Test rides are key.... ~snip~.
    I should have been more clear.... take them on a demo ride. That's what made my mind up on a FS over a HT... I paid $50 to demo ride a base 2012 Camber 29 and the money was applied to the new bike purchase.

    If one shop doesn't have both, just chalk the $50 you *may* lose to one shop or the other riding both bikes as to a cost incurred in making sure you were 100% happy. Money well spent IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GR1822 View Post
    February maybe? I just got it at home last week. Read it and threw it away. Do home subscriptions get released before newsstands or visa versa? There was a good review of the Trance 29er too.

    Edit: I just looked it up online, and it's the Feb issue.

    It is February, I have it on Ipad. It is base 3 ring Camber, 32.2lbs. still a good review of a Camber's capabilities.

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    Does anyone know if the 110 mm Fox Float on the 2012 Camber Comp can be changed to 120 mm?

    Fox doesn't offer any 110 mm forks, which makes me think that this is a 120 mm fork with a spacer in it. Is this true?

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    Okay Camber owners -- I have been struggling over which bike to get for months. I have cleaned out my garage to the point where I only have 1 bike in the quiver (I wake up with cold sweats on a regular basis) and want to add a FS 29er. My single ride is a '12 S-Works HT.

    I've been riding 20 years and have the skills to ride my HT anywhere I want to go, but enjoy having options. I would say I'm an aggressive XC type that enjoys the reward of carving a nice descent after the climb. I am drawn to the Camber on paper, but it's just not quite calling out to me in-person (throwing a leg over).

    Am I missing anything between the '13 Epic Marathon and either a '13 Camber Expert or Camber Expert EVO R -- again XC instincts pointing to EVO R. Really want to hear how well the Camber climbs compared to the Epic or my current HT.

    Thanks in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dokhan View Post
    Does anyone know if the 110 mm Fox Float on the 2012 Camber Comp can be changed to 120 mm?

    Fox doesn't offer any 110 mm forks, which makes me think that this is a 120 mm fork with a spacer in it. Is this true?
    Still waiting on somebody to pull thier forks apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhtopilko View Post
    Still waiting on somebody to pull thier forks apart.
    I would think that someone on here knows.

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    I went from an 08 stumpy HT to a Camber EVO R. The ride is so much better but I wouldn't say it is faster. I tried the Epic but it kind of beat me up. I am an old guy so this bike suits me just fine. I'm not an expert but it's hard to beat an epic for climbing. If you're in to speed probably the Epic. Good fast paced trail riding the Camber. It does do a good job going downhill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjcsocal View Post
    Okay Camber owners -- I have been struggling over which bike to get for months. I have cleaned out my garage to the point where I only have 1 bike in the quiver (I wake up with cold sweats on a regular basis) and want to add a FS 29er. My single ride is a '12 S-Works HT.

    I've been riding 20 years and have the skills to ride my HT anywhere I want to go, but enjoy having options. I would say I'm an aggressive XC type that enjoys the reward of carving a nice descent after the climb. I am drawn to the Camber on paper, but it's just not quite calling out to me in-person (throwing a leg over).

    Am I missing anything between the '13 Epic Marathon and either a '13 Camber Expert or Camber Expert EVO R -- again XC instincts pointing to EVO R. Really want to hear how well the Camber climbs compared to the Epic or my current HT.

    Thanks in advance.
    how did you get down to just 1 bike??? i am impressed ...

    i have a 2011 camber pro 29er [the root beer and white one] and i can go most places on it ... it has way more capabilities than i have and i don't push it to the limit ... i am 51 and ride for pleasure rather than hammer like i used to ... it is just a really comfortable all round bike ...

    i have ridden the epic carbon ... it is a very fast bike indeed, but it was uncomfortable after about 40mins ...
    the s-works stumper ht was too twitchy for me ... plus i tried to pull a wheelie and the front kept coming over and it dumped me on my a$$
    i have ridden an anthem, it was okay, but nothing to rave over ...
    i spent some time on a carbon xtc, i did like that bike a lot ...

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    Just got my girlfriend a Camber Comp. She's been on a Myka hard tail. She's 5'5" and we got her a small. It's been zero degrees here for the past week so she hasn't had a chance to try it out other than up and down the street a couple of times, but she says she notices a major difference just in riding over curbs, and up the stairs to our porch and she's really excited to get on the trails. It's supposed to warm up so we'r'e planning on riding this weekend. I'll let you know how it goes.

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    Just picked up a 2012 Camber Expert last night in the January sales. I'd been saving for this one for a while so was glad to be able to bag one with £650 off original list.

    It's currently sat upside-down in my lounge looking very shiny and new whilst I await a new shock-pump from Wiggle.

    Quick question - can anybody tell me what manuals came with their Camber? I only got the basic 'Specialized Bicycle Owner's Manual' but that can't be all there should ahve been? I'd expect shock setup guides at least?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tPIC View Post
    Just picked up a 2012 Camber Expert last night in the January sales. I'd been saving for this one for a while so was glad to be able to bag one with £650 off original list.

    It's currently sat upside-down in my lounge looking very shiny and new whilst I await a new shock-pump from Wiggle.

    Quick question - can anybody tell me what manuals came with their Camber? I only got the basic 'Specialized Bicycle Owner's Manual' but that can't be all there should ahve been? I'd expect shock setup guides at least?

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tPIC View Post
    Quick question - can anybody tell me what manuals came with their Camber? I only got the basic 'Specialized Bicycle Owner's Manual' but that can't be all there should ahve been? I'd expect shock setup guides at least?

    Thanks.
    I just got basic info for my 2013, but I don't really have to worry with shock set up. here is the 2012 suspension set up guide:

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    Many thanks for the links guys. It's good that Specialized make them all available on-line. I'll grab what I need from there. It's not quite the same though, I'm a bit old school and like the have paperwork to flick throughat my leisure.

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    I also appreciate (Knight511) the posting of this on the site. I have it in paper form from a co rider but now I can keep it and maybe even get it laminated for protection. Thanks again. By the way, still very happy with my Camber Comp. Just don't have enough time lately to ride as much as I would like but that will make the bike last that much longer over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tPIC View Post
    Many thanks for the links guys. It's good that Specialized make them all available on-line. I'll grab what I need from there. It's not quite the same though, I'm a bit old school and like the have paperwork to flick throughat my leisure.
    Print them out.

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    I printed, laminated and pinned them to my garage wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dee View Post
    I printed, laminated and pinned them to my garage wall.
    I just saved the PDF on my phone. Not that I haven't memorized the pressures by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Quint View Post
    I just saved the PDF on my phone. Not that I haven't memorized the pressures by now.
    So hav I but I did the garage wall thing to irritate my riding buddies

    Also, my dad runs the same forks on his KHS HT (Reba RL but his are 100mm) so if he comes round he can quickly look up his too without reading it off the fork

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by abelfonseca View Post
    Here is a video I made of the way back from a long climb we did last Saturday with our group. Its a twisty downhill through what you guys would call fire roads. Its nothing technical nor am I going way fast but it was somewhat muddy and slippery and very fun. I almost lost it at 3:48, yay!.


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    Very nice video - I would love to come down there and spend some time riding the mountain roads. Yours is a beautiful country and reminds me of rural areas here in the States.

    We just added another Camber to the stable. I've owned an '11 Elite 29er since new (April '11) and have been scouring the area for a Medium for my wife. As luck would have it, one of our local shops had a closeout demo Medium tucked away in a forgotten corner. It came home ultimately to join the increasing collection.

    Pics of both when I hit 10 posts. Need to find us some fireroads on which to play...

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    I have a 2011 Camber comp 26" with Ario rl rear shock. The 2011 air chart on Spec. website is only a general guideline. The chart says 140 Lb rider you fill shock to 115 psi. I was running 110 thinking I was setup, wrong. My lBS asked me if I ride my bike with that much air all the time, I said yep for the last year now! any way they put me back on the bike and dropped air down to 90-95 psi. Holy crap what a difference. Chart is good but dont live by it like i did.

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    Im thinking of buying a camber 29er but im not sure if a should go for a large or an XL. Im 192 cm tall with 92 cm instem, I guess thats equal to 6 feet 3 inches with 36 inch instem.

    Any advice?

    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by rularn View Post
    Im thinking of buying a camber 29er but im not sure if a should go for a large or an XL. Im 192 cm tall with 92 cm instem, I guess thats equal to 6 feet 3 inches with 36 inch instem.

    Any advice?

    Thank you
    i am 191cm with a 90cm inseam, i ride an XL camber, i find it fits great

    i probably could fit the L with a longer headstem, although i rode an L sized stumpjumper hardtail and i ended up with a sore back after half and hour of riding ... i rode the XL sized one a few months later and had no issues [other than it was very light and i flipped it when i tried to do a wheelie, but thats a whole other issue!] ... not a scientific test really, but i went for the XL and have had no issues with fit ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rularn View Post
    Im thinking of buying a camber 29er but im not sure if a should go for a large or an XL. Im 192 cm tall with 92 cm instem, I guess thats equal to 6 feet 3 inches with 36 inch instem.

    Any advice?

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    yep! I do have advice! Find a specialized dealer, find someone who will take the time to set the bike up properly (if they don't take out a shock pump, they aren't doing it right!) and test ride both sizes. Better yet, if you can find a spec. dealer with a demo fleet, see if you can not only test ride both sizes, but take a size large (they will not have XL demos) out for a demo on some actual trails. The experience of riding the bike offroad, on a ride that lasts as long as your normal ride will be more valuable to telling you what size you need, that anything that I, or anybody else could tell you on this site.

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    Size is dependent on inseam. Some people have longer legs some people have longer torsos. I suggest you go to a shop ant "try" both sizes on to see which one fits you best. At 5'8" I should be on a medium, however I am on a small due to the short leg syndrome. From what hoogie posts the XL is certainly the right choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iridethedirt View Post
    yep! I do have advice! Find a specialized dealer, find someone who will take the time to set the bike up properly (if they don't take out a shock pump, they aren't doing it right!) and test ride both sizes. Better yet, if you can find a spec. dealer with a demo fleet, see if you can not only test ride both sizes, but take a size large (they will not have XL demos) out for a demo on some actual trails. The experience of riding the bike offroad, on a ride that lasts as long as your normal ride will be more valuable to telling you what size you need, that anything that I, or anybody else could tell you on this site.
    Best advice yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rularn View Post
    Im thinking of buying a camber 29er but im not sure if a should go for a large or an XL. Im 192 cm tall with 92 cm instem, I guess thats equal to 6 feet 3 inches with 36 inch instem.

    Any advice?

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    6'4" with 34" inseam - went with an XL and either a 100 or 120mm stem, length depending on the bars I'm running and the stem angle.

    Fits like a glove.

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    I am just under 6' with 32 " in-seam. I ride an L. It fits good. I changed to a 70mm stem. I can still get behind the seat on technical downhill stuff. I am real happy with this bike. All my friends ride Epics. I prefer the Camber.
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    Thank you all very much

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    Just bought a 13 Camber Carbon Comp Love the bike but...... Was given a Reverb, internal routing is useless. Why couldn't Specialize make the routing hole a little bigger to accomadate Hydro cable? I don't get? I see this topic was touched upon here . For the record Jag Wire Hydro cable" Does Not Fit" into the routing hole. Have to run it outside

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